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Dignitas can be good
Slovakia s1mple_suk_dyk 
Look at fnatic 3/5 reunion and rn top4 So why nip 4/5 cant work. I see some light here +it will be fun to watch for us, oldschool players.
2020-01-23 09:06
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Netherlands Jonasio 
They even have fiff back as coach
2020-01-23 09:09
they cant /closed
2020-01-23 09:08
/reopen blow me /close
2020-01-23 10:24
Yeah I reckon they can be consistent top 15 and occasionally take a map off better teams
2020-01-23 09:09
just... no
2020-01-24 11:43
World mbata 
They will easily snatch the #1 spot, only a fool with taste for wienersasusage in dark place would think otherwise
2020-01-24 12:15
Fnatics are younger and has a trusted carry in Brollan, JW and KRIMZ never slowed down. Flusha picking up the pace, Golden is a good buddy now. What do NiP have aside from never stopping f0rest and an unknown entity in a 5th slot.
2020-01-23 09:09
Brollan was also an unknown entity, f0rest is similar to krimz (although of lower caliber), JW is somewhat inconsistent tbh
2020-01-23 09:30
North America 007DBR9 
to be fair, when JW pops off he is arguably one of the best awpers in the world
2020-01-24 12:04
Wish them all the best
2020-01-23 09:09
Dicknitas power
2020-01-23 09:10
Iran poopmod 
fnatic has flusha
2020-01-23 09:11
Indonesia lumayan 
2020-01-23 09:52
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
I wish them the best and I'll support them but you can't compare Fnatic with players still at the top with Friberg, Xzit and GTR, who are quite washed out :\
2020-01-23 09:12
Croatia feelsbadmane 
U know how pro football players go to china or america on end of their career.This is it lol u are delusional if u think they will work out they have kids wives and stuff no one cares about cs like they use to before.
2020-01-23 09:20
Finland pate1 
well fnatic players arent washed up
2020-01-23 09:22
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Italy DaDoar 
they want to do the Vitality approach of having a young superstar surrounded by experienced players that can set him up and do the dirty job while he has all the good positions, but there are some problems withthe current lineup that we will analyze by comparing roles one by one bwith Vitality. ALEX - Xizt (IGL) here i think that sadly Xizt has shown in his latter part of the Fnatic stint that hes half thr IGL ALEX is, his tactics are either very simple and one dimensional or old, maybe a different team structure can help but i dont know, also Xizt fragging was going downhill in the later parts of fnatic. ApEx - Friberg (Entry frags) Here i think it might be p even(evn though i think ApEx can still find a very good form, like in the first half of 2019) and on Heroic Friberg showed that he still knows his entries, maybe hell be a bit rusty but hes one of the pieces i trust more. F0rest - RPK (Old guy/supportive player/Anchor) i think F0rest might play a role similar to RpK, because they are both very sharp aimers, very willing to sac for the team and can play along with the AWPer to facilitate him, here i think F0rest outclasses le Tank in the skill department, but RpK does the support/escort job extremely well and i think they both have very good anchoring, still F0rest is probably the best piece of this lineup Get_Right - Shoxie (Lurker/Clutcher) they are both looking kinda bad right now, but wehave seen that Shoxie can still pop off and look like his former self during Dreamhack Malmö, for Christopher we havent seen him play at his old standards, since like 2017, i dont trust him that much Zywoo - Hallzerk(Superstar AWPer) while I think Hallzerk is a very good player, he doesnt have the inhumane skill Zywoo has, but i think we still have to see how good Hallzerk isin a system that revolves around him, hes deffo good enough to do what Zywoo does against tier 2-3 teams though. All in all, i think their idea could work on a tier 2 level, but Get_Right and Xizt are very big question marks
2020-01-23 09:23
Thanks for the essay
2020-01-23 09:31
Netherlands Gosharu1 
lol didn't expect to read such a indepth analysis here on HLTV. Not sure if your claims are true, but if then its a good well written argument +1
2020-01-23 09:40
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
I can’t be sure of everything I say, afterall these are my observations but id be more than happy to be proven wrong by Get_Right and Xizt, also thanks for the words mens :)))
2020-01-23 09:42
IF and its a very big IF, XIZT and GTR find form this could be great. I remember back in 2016-2017 when Threat took over the coaching at NiP. NiP went from sloppy to very decent and WON IEM Oakland back to back. I think Threat and fiff are very similar.
2020-01-23 10:03
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
yes, they could but it would reauire a miracle and a half, if this doesnt work out i would very much like to see -Xizt +Hampus, adding a younger and more innovative IGL could make a team like this flow way better than what we seen from Xizt lately, but i think Dignitas would rather make nostalgia bucks than actually trying to win anything, sadly
2020-01-23 10:24
Netherlands Gosharu1 
yes I feel that that would be a better first go anyway. 2 new players alongside 3 veterans. But I feel get right is just not good enough anymore. Also, I really wonder what organizers will invite them.
2020-01-23 15:20
Dosia + mou + zeus + hobbit + adren will work!!! Top1 soon
2020-01-23 09:23
+1 without a doubt will work. Gambit only fell apart cos they lost IGL. Top tier players. I say -guardian +dosia. This is balanced and make NaVi top 5.
2020-01-23 10:14
Russia MeowZer 
Only forest and halzerk can hit bullets others can’t they will lose to every tier-3 team like havu or hard legion
2020-01-23 09:27
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
2020-01-23 09:28
l | 
Indonesia JoSuaLB 
Selow kita indon
2020-01-23 10:35
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
2020-01-23 10:37
l | 
Indonesia JoSuaLB 
Logika apa ini anjayyyy
2020-01-23 17:58
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
Kan Mantap
2020-01-24 11:42
4 washed up players and a no name player sure
2020-01-23 09:29
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
same with your country, no scener
2020-01-23 09:32
same goes for u
2020-01-23 09:32
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
>BnTeT >Xccurate take one
2020-01-23 09:44
wow 2 players amazing
2020-01-23 09:56
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
2020-01-23 10:01
congrats still only 2 players
2020-01-23 10:02
2 is still better than 0
2020-01-23 10:04
ok still no scener just like me
2020-01-23 10:05
There are only 7 scenes, all other countries have none. Sweden Denmark France Finland N.A Brazil Australia
2020-01-23 10:24
2020-01-23 10:31
well also russia and ukraine
2020-01-23 10:31
North America 007DBR9 
Ukranian scene is also one player and some old guy who retired
2020-01-24 12:08
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
2020-01-23 10:09
we talking about indonesia not tyloo
2020-01-23 10:12
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
2020-01-23 10:16
just like espiranto
2020-01-23 10:32
Bulgaria cuddleslut 
BnTeT Polish player
2020-01-23 15:27
Indonesia Namesk1Y 
So NEO : Indonesian Player
2020-01-24 11:42
North America 007DBR9 
and pasha, taz, byali, michu, dycha, big lad snax
2020-01-24 12:09
they can wrek mens)))
2020-01-23 09:32
Norway BakeAndShake 
They will be good because they have hallzerk
2020-01-23 09:33
v tru this is what vitality are based around as well it will be exciting to see how good they are
2020-01-23 09:34
but friberg, xizt, and gtr just can't hang at the top level anymore, i really don't see this team succeeding
2020-01-23 09:39
(5 years ago)
2020-01-23 09:39
Hallzerk have to carry
2020-01-23 09:40
Norway Bigg1 
dignitas is going to be the team that either instantly get top 10-5 and rule, or they shit they bed and will fight to be top 30.
2020-01-23 09:41
North America 007DBR9 
my guess is they will hover around mid tier 2, so DH open Leipzig would be a good tourny for them
2020-01-24 12:10
Denmark UX_Designer 
Imo get right is the weakest link, he didn’t look too good in his last days of nip. Forest still nutty we know that Friberg did well in heroic, should be a solid player on the team Hallzerk, a gamble but seems up and coming Xizt a gamble as well, he has proven he can win but is his take on modern CS outdated, can he still aim? Dunno
2020-01-23 09:46
I think as I read in the interview with Fiff that the collaboration between Xizt and Fiff that they had during the heyday would be good for Xizt in his IGL role as Xizt is more "out and running" while Fiff is more the analyst in the game. According to GTR, they looked at him as being stressed during the last time in NiP when he had the requirement to perform or die. Now that he gets to play with "his boys" I think he will relax and perform again, maybe not like he did back in the days but up to 1.0 rating we should be able to claim.
2020-01-23 10:14
I think they will do better than NiP young team.
2020-01-23 10:06
So excited to see this roster. f0rest and hallzerk good we know, want to see performance.
2020-01-23 10:14
We all know they won't achieve anything but man they are such legends, they have my support for sure
2020-01-23 10:15
Georgia Megobari 
tier-4 team
2020-01-23 10:36
it's all on gtr
2020-01-23 10:40
Even tho i really like this line up i dont see any chances for them to be a decent t1 Team.
2020-01-23 10:58
North America 007DBR9 
mid t2 at best imo
2020-01-24 12:11
Denmark Muamelele 
i think ppl will be surprised
2020-01-23 15:25
Golden is good Flusha is good Jw is good Krimz is good Dignitas are nvm
2020-01-23 18:26
North America 007DBR9 
golden good but not best (JW best)
2020-01-24 12:11
Sweden axelious 
Sweden will have four teams in the Brazil major, all through qualifiers! (Okey probably not GL but I think they Will be better this spring)
2020-01-24 12:00
North America 007DBR9 
but GL carry is gone now, into yung NiP
2020-01-24 12:12
Sweden axelious 
Yea, but they will finally get some consistency now and Draken is still good enough. They wont be top 5, but with some form top 20 is definently possible!
2020-01-24 12:17
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Romania Took 
They will be top 30, but it will be more of an iconic team rather than a competitive one.
2020-01-24 12:19
Just create the fucking league that Sponge suggested already. Bring back old NIP, VP and the other old fucks and create a WWE style league around them that is full staged. Casual Esports viewers asking did TSM wonnered and such wouldn't notice a thing stoned out of their minds.
2020-01-24 12:23
and no they won't be good. They gonna ride their own hype train for a while getting some invites and such and in a year they will disappear top 25ish. I like them a lot but they can't compete with youngsters, impossibru.
2020-01-24 12:27
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