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Na'vi downgrade, out of top 30
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Poland Marcinek_pvp_2009_XD_PL 
Who the fuck is "perfecto" and why would anyone buy it for $200 000. It is clearly fake news, I can't believe such prestigous organisation made this huge mistake. This random won't bring anything to the team, watch na'vi drop down to #20 and not qualifying for the major. Or... s1mple ordered a bait so that he can kill mkre and abuse the no-name
2020-01-23 20:08
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He is global since 2015. so shut up
2020-01-23 20:09
+1
2020-01-23 20:16
#31
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
+1 for my br gentleman
2020-01-23 20:47
#43
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Russia FriZZeh 
+1
2020-01-23 21:13
+1 sir
2020-01-24 00:28
#92
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Finland veganisti 
+1 almost globallest global ever (JW globallest)
2020-01-24 06:43
globalists?
2020-01-24 16:33
Wait.... Where are my 200k $ ?!?!?!
2020-01-24 16:32
Anyway better than Guardian
2020-01-23 20:09
#73
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United States Melanin807 
+1
2020-01-24 01:18
#74
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Switzerland SNXWe 
the only wAY to top 5 was FL1t now its gg
2020-01-24 01:19
#86
Zeus | 
United Kingdom hy_its_me 
maybe they should have hire you Mr Gold Nova
2020-01-24 06:25
#110
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Switzerland SNXWe 
9 lvl faceit but nt
2020-01-24 10:57
The only was was Somedieyoung, but they took this rookie...
2020-01-24 08:34
I heard s1mple had beef with him so he would have been a bad choice
2020-01-24 08:44
If you're TRUE PROFESSIONAL, you can solve this beef in a second. Just talk to each other and make a conclusion that there is nothing to fight for. If this beef was the reason for Na`Vi to pick Perfecto instead of SDY, then I'm slowly losing the wish of cheering on Na`Vi anymore.
2020-01-24 08:48
Tell that to Oleksandr Kostyliev
2020-01-24 08:49
OK, he is retarded... I admit it mate. But I'm not sure that this was true reason.
2020-01-24 08:49
+1
2020-01-24 11:48
#3
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Finland SeaSexAndSunny 
bait order kkkkkkkkkkk
2020-01-23 20:10
who da fuck is Kamil_Kleemann and why would anyone care about his opinion
2020-01-23 20:10
#32
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India prat_pps 
what the fuck is gold, and why is my mom digging it.
2020-01-23 20:47
wtf, respect your mother
2020-01-23 20:47
Cuz of your expensive ass
2020-01-24 08:51
+1 Didn’t see you for a long time here btw
2020-01-23 21:16
yeap, im less active recently <3
2020-01-23 21:18
Good for you brotha
2020-01-24 08:51
+1 no one cares about poorluck opinions
2020-01-24 07:42
Says who?
2020-01-24 11:45
every fucking one
2020-01-24 15:28
everyone from hltv
2020-01-24 20:54
#122
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Canada Herodionus 
+1 Canadian logic is 100000 iq
2020-01-24 15:41
"I don't know him - he's bad"
2020-01-23 20:10
+1 so stupid logic
2020-01-23 20:41
successful bettor logic Kappa
2020-01-24 06:40
But it's still gonna happen...
2020-01-23 20:11
Young and promising player. 200k is comparatevely low buy out in overpriced CIS region, ForZe wanted 1.5kk for flit LMAO, for good tier 2/3 player :)
2020-01-23 20:12
#36
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CIS kryto203 
1.5 mil is the buyout Forze werent offering fl1t
2020-01-23 20:55
Civil contract can be changed with the will of all the sides who signed it. NaVi for sure had negotiations with the org (ForZe) about the actual price. ForZe position was to not change the buyout (you even dont need any paper things for it because of civil law speciific, just a verbal agreement) so price was 1.5kk as it was written in the contract. Orgs make such high buyouts to secure player from being signed by other orgs, but when the time goes, parties of the contract may change their positions (because of specific conditions, player will and any other reasons). So, at the end, ForZe charged 1.5kk for Flit and thats it
2020-01-23 21:03
#40
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CIS kryto203 
That means forze know that fl1t doesnt actually cost 1.5kk. They didnt want the money they wanted to keep the player
2020-01-23 21:11
Indeed
2020-01-23 21:28
hes a stupid matchfixer who would sell his parents for money
2020-01-23 21:30
When he had 100 bucks salary in tier 4 mix - maybe (not proved tho), in navi, sacrificing his future (cos of much more attention from community/orgs then on tier 4 bookmaker rofl cups), reputation and top tier salary - only if he s 10 iq
2020-01-23 22:05
who cars about navi nowadays they are so shit after zeus left
2020-01-23 20:11
#87
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Ukraine beazztov 
+1
2020-01-24 06:34
#10
ropz | 
Europe STFU_M8 
You know simple and elec carried BOT ZEUS AND BOT EDWARD, even FLAMIE was decent. And their caoch fucking dru addict KANE. If s1mple returns to 2018 FORM GGEZWP
2020-01-23 20:12
#13
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Europe STFU_M8 
Idk maybe he is bad but hopefully will do something
2020-01-23 20:15
Won't do anything
2020-01-23 20:38
p1mple fanboys always blame zeus lul
2020-02-23 20:03
ppl think guardian is the problem but its boombl4 and blade. boombl4 is not an igl and blade is too strict and never knew how to use awpers (he prevented worldedit from being rly good). if navi with guardian had good igl and good coach they would be good. guardian is playing ENTRY when he has rifle. flamie and boombl4 should entry. and there is no one to tell s1mple to stfu when he gets mad.
2020-01-23 20:12
They need coach with big balls to shout at p1mple to shut up when he is toxic to his teammates and if it doesn't work hijack him to Syberia and then beat him up
2020-01-23 20:15
Guardian 0,95 rating as main awp, missing every ez shot, ofc its boombla and blade who caused problems. Put prime fallen into current astralis and astralis will fall, cause their team structure require passive angle peeker (current guardian style). Navi always played with agressive star awper with many rotations and initiation (markeloff, old guardian, s1mple), different play style was one of the problems with recent guardian
2020-01-23 22:16
yes its their fault to some extent. guardian is not playing in a role he is used to. he is playing way more passive than how he played in faze and navi before.
2020-01-24 00:25
Well, maybe, it is actually makes sense if you put it in reverse, hope guardian gives interview with his thoughts and we will see on the next major if its him or actually other problems that aused such a dissapointment
2020-01-24 00:57
people were cheering for Guardian but ppl hate perfecto even though guardian is shit
2020-01-23 20:16
#17
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Thailand hahahoha 
Essentially a replacement for zeus. ive never heard of him but if he has better aim than zeus, thats already an improvement. they were Top 3 during most of 2018 playing with zeus’ shitty aim
2020-01-23 20:31
But zeus was a good igl
2020-01-23 21:25
That's because aim isn't everything? Look their downfall after kicking Zeus.
2020-01-24 00:52
They didn't kicked him, he retired
2020-01-24 06:04
Yeah, ik. But I also have the impression they told him to retire a little bit earlier, so they could acquire Guardian and FaZe could buy coldzera.
2020-01-24 16:30
0/8
2020-01-23 20:32
Could pick up a random GE player from match making and he would add more to the team than GuardiaN. What I've seen from GuardiaN these past 6 months (LAN/Online/FACEIT) is possible the worst form I've ever seen a pro player in. The change was needed and we'll have to wait and see what Perfecto can add
2020-01-23 20:33
GE?
2020-01-23 21:03
Global Elite
2020-01-24 06:04
Global Elite. Sincerely yours, Captain Obvious.
2020-01-24 06:09
#115
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Russia Islademuerto 
General Electric
2020-01-24 11:47
#23
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Russia Ypp1 
They are just too greedy to buy normal player.
2020-01-23 20:39
Bad choice for 200T$ but better than Guardian.
2020-01-23 20:41
Best option they had
2020-01-23 20:42
Who the fuck was electronic when he was a tier3 player and who is him now?
2020-01-23 20:43
+1
2020-01-23 20:46
electronic didnt go straight to navi though. we electronic go insane at major in flipside.
2020-01-23 20:59
He was the hard carry of Flipside
2020-01-23 21:12
In tier3 but now he can carry on tier1 too
2020-01-23 21:21
Yeah but he was still more known than Perfecto
2020-01-23 21:27
Yes but are you agree with: s1mple go back to awp( more more more efective than guardian ) its a ++++improve ?
2020-01-23 21:40
I don't care if S1mple awps or rifles as long as Guardian is replaced by a good player. If they had brought in a good awper and S1mple stayed with rifles I would be fine too
2020-01-23 21:41
Anyway -guardian + Perfecto and s1mple awp will be better than navi with guardian
2020-01-24 00:38
Electronic carried the shit out of F3. Took his team to top 15 and already had played 2 majors.
2020-01-24 00:57
Electronic was insane on flipsid3 before he went to Na'vi tf you smoking?
2020-01-24 06:00
#27 elec was top2 russian player after flamie u stupid
2020-01-24 08:30
giving s1mple awp instead of guardian is a huuuuuuuugeeeeee upgrade for Na'vi.
2020-01-23 20:49
he might be random player but it is still big improvement sadly xddd
2020-01-23 21:13
he is just perfect
2020-01-23 21:13
#46
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Denmark iLoVeReD 
Suka, zamknij się kurwa.
2020-01-23 21:17
I'm happy for Guardian. I have no clue who perfecto is as I don't follow cis, but it's obvious that guardian was set up to fail. He was already on a down slide, and was then forced into a style that was never his. They had him camping with an awp when he was always a very active awper. That plus P1mple's toxicity meant that he could never do well in Navi. This was the best thing that could've happened to him.
2020-01-23 21:18
#70
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Qatar Number2awper 
+11111
2020-01-24 01:09
#59
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Who the fuck is "brollan" and why would anyone buy it for $200 000. It is clearly fake news, I can't believe such prestigous organisation made this huge mistake. This random won't bring anything to the team, watch fnatic drop down to #20 and not qualifying for the major. Or... krimz ordered a bait so that he can kill mkre and abuse the no-name
2020-01-24 00:27
Brollan is the only one from fnatic who made it to top 20 lol
2020-01-24 00:30
KRIMZ?
2020-01-24 00:58
Oh, sorry, complelety forgot about him;-;
2020-01-24 05:57
#121
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
And JW probably would have made top 25
2020-01-24 15:38
I think any option is better than guardian atm they pick him cause retards aka qikert and fl1t refused cuz idiots, look where is vp now fl1t gonna regret after first mad lion lose match
2020-01-24 00:45
Forze are steadily rising + they have a football org paying them VP is a bigger org than Navi the transitions are not worth it
2020-01-24 06:21
Sure sure rising same fluke as avangar u will see they playing together 2 years i guess? And still nothing
2020-01-24 07:36
Who the fuck is "brollan" and why would anyone buy it for $200 000. It is clearly fake news, I can't believe such prestigous organisation made this huge mistake. This random won't bring anything to the team, watch fnatic drop down to #20 and not qualifying for the major. Or... krimz ordered a bait so that he can kill mkre and abuse the no-name Who the fuck is "electronic" and why would anyone buy it for $200 000. It is clearly fake news, I can't believe such prestigous organisation made this huge mistake. This random won't bring anything to the team, watch fnatic drop down to #20 and not qualifying for the major. Or... krimz ordered a bait so that he can kill mkre and abuse the no-name
2020-01-24 00:56
#69
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North America daesoulae 
yes because you have never heard of them, they are therefore complete and utter garbage and should not be a replacement for a washed up bot whos playing support with an awp
2020-01-24 01:03
#76
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Sweden meistr0 
+1 HLTV logic. Perfecto is actually very decent. If Boombl4 use him correct he can do a lot of good stuff.
2020-01-24 01:21
#71
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Ukraine d3adLY 
lol he is good
2020-01-24 01:16
#72
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Turkey erasmusguy 
they will be better without guardian for sure. simple will be the main awper again and it is good to watch such an aggressive and talented awper imagine navi vs vitality matches, zywoo versus simple, two godlike awper, it would be awesome to watch
2020-01-24 01:18
What 2 godlike awpers? S1mple and himself
2020-01-24 06:06
Yep lmao
2020-01-24 12:38
#75
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Sweden meistr0 
How do people not know who Perfecto is? Hes actually decent and 1000000 times better than GuardiaN, especially now when s1mple will most likely AWP. Give the guy a chance lol.
2020-01-24 01:21
hes decent
2020-01-24 01:24
Anyone is upgrade over GuardiaN, this demoralized GuardiaN
2020-01-24 01:48
JAME NaVi best option?
2020-01-24 06:35
he was best player for throwman when they played in the major and didn't suck ass
2020-01-24 06:38
Lmao Navi are already qualified for the major. Shitty bait
2020-01-24 06:38
Playoffs I meant
2020-01-24 11:43
Most likely, Ladislav did not kick, and he left himself, so the organization had to urgently look for a fifth. Minors begin soon, because increasingly reputable organizations do not sell players, and buyout costs inadequate money. Perfecto is the best option available, and it’s not so bad, in fact
2020-01-24 06:58
and i bet u did not watched single of his match and u talk trash, casuall hltv user
2020-01-24 07:50
Perfecto is half decent. But he does not fix Navis drama queen problems. Theyll hover around top 10-15 this yr with not a lot of success.
2020-01-24 08:38
#104
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Latvia tibr0 
I don't get it just wait when they play and then trashtalk.. U all probably some gn3 scrub think he will play shit.. When actually they have 1x soo good young tea
2020-01-24 08:50
Polish scene talking about mistakes...
2020-01-24 08:53
XD
2020-01-24 09:03
They're experienced af though. xD
2020-01-24 09:09
SHUT FUCKING UP PERFECTO IS PERFECT PLAYER!
2020-01-24 11:46
Who? Never ever seen him in a tier 2 game, not talking abou tier 1.
2020-01-24 11:47
Wrong/wrong/wrong. They needed a rifler. They lacked an ... AWPer. Now they have a first class awper (s1mple) and a first class rifler (perfecto). STFU
2020-01-24 11:48
First class rifler who LOL
2020-01-24 11:56
first class rifler?? hahaah are you retarded? DO YOU actually line him with players like electronic,twistzz,magisk,elige etc? He hasn't even played a single match against tier1 team in his life
2020-01-24 20:57
#127
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Canada RONOK 
Still better than s0mple
2020-01-24 16:33
can u do anything than talking fucking dumbshit here non stop?
2020-01-24 16:33
nt
2020-02-23 19:55
#133
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Russia ToughGuy 
good bump
2020-02-23 20:07
#134
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Russia ToughGuy 
didn't age well
2020-02-23 20:07
#135
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu 
bump
2020-02-23 20:54
oh shit
2020-02-23 20:57
why dont you just wait until they progessing good enough
2020-02-23 20:58
#138
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Russia oldbiven 
Bruh
2020-02-23 20:58
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