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cars are waste of money
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I don't understand why many people own a car. When I look at all my friends almost everyone owns a car and they are not doing great financially. Like what do you even use a car for ? Going out ? You have an uber for that. Travelling somewhere ? Take a plane. Going to work ? You have a bicycle for that, also keeps you fit. So why do you even need a car ? why many people go in debt just to get a car, is this a status/braggining thing ?
2020-01-25 18:56
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#1
BENZ | 
Germany I_car 
How dare you?
2020-01-25 18:57
#8
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
nickname checks out D:
2020-01-25 18:59
Xd
2020-01-25 20:02
+1 buying a car is the worst investment u could ever make but i would still just go for a cheap car so i can be independent
2020-01-25 18:57
#3
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African Union 2011 
depends on where you live and work but generally agreed
2020-01-25 18:58
#4
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United States Bonger 
What if there is no uber in your city? What if you want to travel like 100km to the next city? Would you still use a plane? What if you work 30km away from your home? Would you still use a bicycle? What a dumb thread
2020-01-25 18:59
#10
BENZ | 
Germany I_car 
Well you live in a village Public transport is really useful in the city
2020-01-25 19:01
public transport, uber why do you live in your OWN home then?
2020-01-25 20:11
Just dont live in a fucking village, also no car = poor fuck
2020-01-25 20:41
#12
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
What if there is no uber in your city? - Honestly ? I would just move out, what city doesn't have uber??? What if you want to travel like 100km to the next city? Would you still use a plane? - I would take a train in that case, also cheap. What if you work 30km away from your home? Would you still use a bicycle? - I would never have this problem because I work in an office and live in a city but if I would be in this situation I would buy a cheap bike or use a public transport like a normal person What a dumb thread - It is not.
2020-01-25 19:02
#64
chrisJ | 
Netherlands toMyy 
trains and cheap in germany OMEGALUL Flying is cheaper than taking a train
2020-01-25 19:21
#77
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
my sister is coming to berlin soon from dresden and she only paid around 10 euro in one way, it's cheap
2020-01-25 19:27
#120
chrisJ | 
Netherlands toMyy 
Well we had to decide either flying or taking the train from Bonn to Berlin and flying was cheaper...
2020-01-25 19:48
#122
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Could be but it's not worth it, it was cheaper by like 3 euros ?
2020-01-25 20:01
#103
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Denmark ma3rsk 
+1
2020-01-25 19:36
#5
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Germany Neckarstadion 
status, and for tons of people it's faster to commute to work by car instead of with public transport.
2020-01-25 18:59
#6
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Romania Anonym20 
i'm a carguy so huge NO, i invest a lot in my car yes but i love it, i love driving and taking care of my car, so i invest in something i enjoy and have fun, imo that's a good investiment.
2020-01-25 19:00
#14
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
If you like it then why not but many people go in debt just because they want a car ASAP. A car for me for example would be a very bad investment and I know a lot of guys who live in a city and don't really need a car but still have it.
2020-01-25 19:04
#31
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Romania Anonym20 
i would never go in debt for a car, maybe a house or apartment but no cars.
2020-01-25 19:10
lets not forget EU has incredible public transport u can use-metro is always nice and fast.
2020-01-25 18:59
#15
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Is that a problem in non eu countries ?
2020-01-25 19:04
yes look USA-they don't even have place for pedestrians to walk
2020-01-25 19:06
#20
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United States Globebuster 
public transport 😂😂😂 only for losers who can't afford a car
2020-01-25 19:06
in EU public transport is pretty nice-in USA you have super long roads without place to walk-you must have a car in order to go to the grocery shop pretty sad
2020-01-25 19:08
#27
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United States Globebuster 
only beta males would think that's sad
2020-01-25 19:09
you think you are alpha with that amount of loans you have to pay? :) or your daddy and momma have to pay?
2020-01-25 19:25
#82
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United States Globebuster 
we're not a socialist country we actually get money left over after taxes to use ourselves
2020-01-25 19:28
you are not alpha if you owe money
2020-01-25 19:31
#106
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United States Globebuster 
that's my point kiddo
2020-01-25 19:38
#28
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United States syrup_god 
...what?
2020-01-25 19:09
in most of your roads you dont have dedicated place for people to walk youtube.com/watch?v=LEAVSGYuhCY&feature=..
2020-01-25 19:19
#75
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United States syrup_god 
no, that's 2 cities in florida. everywhere else in the country has sidewalks, except in remote and rural areas with unpaved roads.
2020-01-25 19:25
and Texas, "same problem is so bad in Tucson, Arizona".Another quote "As an American who lived in Germany for around 15 years, I complain about this same shit in the U.S. on a daily basis. I moved back to the states last year and I despise the fact that practically all American cities (I've never been to NYC) and metropolitan areas are based around the automobile. Big ugly wide congested streets and strip malls for miles and miles. I try to walk to the grocery store or nearest restaurant and literally fear for my life because there are no designated places for pedestrians to safely walk."
2020-01-25 19:34
#109
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United States syrup_god 
i've spent pretty much my entire life in american cities and have never seen this problem outside of florida and some rural areas. maybe its just a uniquely southern thing if its also a problem in arizona and texas, but even then i've never seen it in phoenix, dallas, houston, etc.
2020-01-25 19:40
#9
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Reunion 1iquser 
if you're gonna use an uber the prices are gonna rack up and be larger than a car in the end. some places dont have good bicycle roads. cars suck and kill a fuck ton of people and most people shouldn't drive them, but right now they're the best option
2020-01-25 19:00
#19
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
"if you're gonna use an uber the prices are gonna rack up and be larger than a car in the end." Not in my case, getting a car, paying for gas and insurance would be MUCH more expensive than taking an uber, also uber is not that expensive these days. "some places dont have good bicycle roads." that could be a problem but not in my case and I doubt any EU country has bad roads.
2020-01-25 19:05
#79
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United States JoshDAA 
An uber is like 50$ for a ride
2020-01-25 19:27
#11
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Finland petemeister 
You can bring home lots of groceries at once so don't need to visit the store as often. If you have small children it's absolutely the easiest way to move around. There's more reasons as well but those were the first two that came to mind. But sure, a lot of people wouldn't really need a car although they own one.
2020-01-25 19:02
#23
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
"You can bring home lots of groceries at once so don't need to visit the store as often." I buy groceries once a week and I pack it into a backpack which is tied in my bike, never had a problem with this, plus I live in the center and food is literally everywhere so I can just walk by foot. "If you have small children it's absolutely the easiest way to move around." I agree with you at this one but I don't and want kids so it's not a problem for me.
2020-01-25 19:08
all of your arguments are "not a problem for me so it has to be like that for everyone"
2020-01-25 19:40
#111
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I understand if you live outside of a big city, then get a car. But I see a lot of people from cities that own a car which I can't wrap my head around.
2020-01-25 19:41
fair enough
2020-01-25 22:01
#138
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Finland petemeister 
I guess the groceries are also a problem only if you have a bigger family. I could never carry whole weeks groceries with a bicycle :D
2020-01-25 20:26
This.
2020-01-25 19:28
#13
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United States sorcrcrc 
i dont live in a city and neither does ~50% of the population so 0/8
2020-01-25 19:02
+1
2020-01-25 19:05
#22
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United States ClickHole 
+1
2020-01-25 19:08
#25
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Why not get a cheap bike instead if you live alone ? What about public transport or trains ?
2020-01-25 19:09
#40
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United States sorcrcrc 
school is 12 mins. by car grocery store 15 mins. by car nearest reliable hospital 30 mins. by car all of it is over hilly terrain no public transport because its america
2020-01-25 19:15
#44
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Then it's time to move out buddy...
2020-01-25 19:16
#49
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United States sorcrcrc 
i know smh
2020-01-25 19:18
#54
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Is public transport really that big of a deal in America ?
2020-01-25 19:20
#68
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United States sorcrcrc 
not really because most people have cars, it only exists in big cities
2020-01-25 19:22
#71
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Interesting.
2020-01-25 19:23
If he doesn't have a money for a car how tf is he supposed to move out than ? That costs money as well.
2020-01-25 19:36
#105
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Plane or a train. You don't need a car to move out, lol.
2020-01-25 19:37
So houses and apartments are free ?
2020-01-25 20:25
#139
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Of course not, you should move out when you get a decent job and confident in yourself, if you can't leave your home town then you have bigger problems to worry about.
2020-01-25 20:26
But what if he moves out to a country side since it's cheaper ? Houses and apartments are more expensive the closer they are to a center.
2020-01-25 20:29
#142
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Then he should save money. But he needs to move out at some point, young people are wasting their time in villages
2020-01-25 20:30
Than he can save money for a car as well ? You can buy a solid car for under 5k euro
2020-01-25 20:32
#146
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Why would you save up for a car when you're moving out ? Seems pointless, rather invest in apartment and save so you could pay rent until you get a decent paying job.
2020-01-25 20:33
Let's say your wife is about to give birth , how do you get her to a hospital ? Uber is a fine choise but I'd rather trust my self with a pregnant wife. What if your parents live far away ? You can go with a bus but car is faster and more convinient. Also , it will pay off more in a longterm , immagine paying for an uber every single time for for who knows how many time ?
2020-01-25 20:35
#148
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I wouldn't be in this situation but let's say it happens. In these days doctors can be VERY precise when it comes to giving a birth, she would be already at the hospital before giving a birth. I only get uber like 2-3 times a week, in germany you pay a lot for car insurance and gas price is also not great. I did some math and I would save about 39% if I would stay without a car and continue using my bicycle and uber. Plus driving home after bar when you're drunk is dangerous and you shouldn't do that.
2020-01-25 20:39
Car = freedom to drive where you want
2020-01-25 19:05
#26
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
also car = debt, money down the drain
2020-01-25 19:09
But thats probably one thing that is worth the cost.
2020-01-25 19:10
#36
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
In the long run, probably. But I don't really see a point for me buying a car, I have one less thing to worry about.
2020-01-25 19:12
If u live in Berlin with black people and metro everywhere no need for car prpbably
2020-01-25 19:16
5k dollar car won't make you go bankrupt
2020-01-25 20:31
#145
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
It won't, but it's still a waste Imo. I'm very careful with my money, I could afford a car at anytime but I don't need it and don't see a point, it's different for everyone of course.
2020-01-25 20:32
so u can go where and when u want, also its faster than calling uber etc
2020-01-25 19:07
#29
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
uber is fast and I usually have planned everything, I like planning things.
2020-01-25 19:10
not everyone is like u, people are busy they get calls etc and gotta go then and now so yeh
2020-01-25 19:21
#30
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United States ClickHole 
This is a low quality bait because most people who own a car don't own something expensive and generally just need something to get them from A to B. Your friends are just idiots for buying cars that have a negative effect on their finances.
2020-01-25 19:10
#34
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Car still costs money and so does the gas and insurance. Uber, public transport and trains are faster and cheaper options.
2020-01-25 19:11
#38
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United States ClickHole 
And how does any form of uber or public transport allow you to carry anything and anyone whilst being able to go wherever, whenever? Your argument is flawed completely.
2020-01-25 19:13
#43
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
You have bags and your hands for that, I usually never carry stuff, only when I go shopping but then I have a backpack that is mounted to my bicycle.
2020-01-25 19:16
#46
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United States ClickHole 
Based on what you are saying, your opinion on cars is based solely on your own lifestyle and is therefore inadmissible because it does not cater to the wider population.
2020-01-25 19:17
#53
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
True, I just can't understand how someone would want to live in a village and doesn't want to move out to a city for a way better life.
2020-01-25 19:20
#58
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United States ClickHole 
There a plethora of reasons why people would rather live outside of cities - less noise, less traffic, cheaper cost of living, more nature etc.
2020-01-25 19:21
gives you freedom people like to be in control of something
2020-01-25 19:10
#35
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I also have freedom without a car.
2020-01-25 19:11
sure but.. nvm you will never understand if you have never lived outside of a city but yes i do agree with that cars in a city are bullshit
2020-01-25 19:21
#73
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Probably, I just never lived in a village and don't really have any close friends who lived in a village before.
2020-01-25 19:24
I get why people get a car when they have the money but 18 year olds thinking that the first thing they need to do is to get their own car when they havent even moved out yet are being stupid.
2020-01-25 19:13
#39
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Most of my friends are around 24-30 and they still somehow get in debt. Let's agree on one thing, you don't need a car if you live in a big city and everything is close to you .
2020-01-25 19:14
go to the lake and use uber 0/8 brain
2020-01-25 19:15
#42
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Bicycling to work 50km is rather annoying, y know? Also uber is more expensive compared to a car. Just buy a used car for like 1k and ur set. If that shit breaks down just make a last trip to the junk yard and get a new one.
2020-01-25 19:16
#48
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
If your work is that far away then just quit. And no, uber is not expensive compared to a car, it's way more affordable and you don't have to worry about your car when it breaks down and then you either have to get a new one or fix it and waste even more money on it.
2020-01-25 19:18
#50
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Just no lol. Greta y u on HLTV...
2020-01-25 19:19
#57
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
What has Greta to do with this ?
2020-01-25 19:21
"If your work is that far away then just quit" Great reason to quit a good well-paid job didn't know people could be that delusional
2020-01-25 20:19
#51
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Poland FitPolak 
Coz bulking
2020-01-25 19:19
#61
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
hahaha, the only real reason
2020-01-25 19:21
#52
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Senegal Rinko 
a cool 50cc bike or an ebike is better in the city (unless it rains often)
2020-01-25 19:20
#62
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
True.
2020-01-25 19:21
Very simple, it gives you the freedom to go where you want when you want without asking anyone else, it also cuts on journey times as it is much faster than public transport.
2020-01-25 19:20
#66
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I also have a freedom and go whenever I want and cars can be slower than a public transport, imagine New York or any other major city.
2020-01-25 19:22
#56
Rich | 
North America Gumdrop 
My work is a 25 minute drive so I'd rather not bike there everyday at 4 in the morning.
2020-01-25 19:22
#69
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Solid reason but why not change a job ? Do you drive to a factory or something or you're living in a village ?
2020-01-25 19:23
#72
Rich | 
North America Gumdrop 
I live in San Diego, California and it isn't that easy to find a new job near me with the same pay and benefits.
2020-01-25 19:24
#81
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
That's the only reason I see to get a car, I never really had a job which that far, usually it's like 5 km
2020-01-25 19:28
No uber and garbo public transport + roads are kinda dangerous + long distances + hard weather where I live rn so a car is the best option. Is not like I got in debt to get one, I just got one that just allows me to go wherever I need as fast and safe as I need. Cheap to reapair and I like it visually so... its a combo (._.)_b
2020-01-25 19:22
#87
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
In your case yeah, car is a must.
2020-01-25 19:30
#65
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Australia hexthesun 
Owning a car can be pretty cheap, I have 3 and it's not really any extra cost beyond registration. Buy cars you can afford outright that are reliable and learn to maintain them yourself. In a big city, public transport is probably the better option if you can handle the lack of freedom.
2020-01-25 19:22
t. german who cant afford a car lol
2020-01-25 19:22
#86
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
No, I just don't see a point in wasting money.
2020-01-25 19:30
ok keep telling yourself that bud
2020-01-25 19:31
if u have germany infrastructure - maybe, if u from 3rd world - its a must have Who cars tho
2020-01-25 19:23
#89
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
True.
2020-01-25 19:31
0/8 car makes life easier But cry is free.if you can't afford it
2020-01-25 19:26
+1 this german idiot is just performing insane mental gymnastics to justify the fact that he can't afford a car LMAO and i thought german education was good
2020-01-25 19:28
#93
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I have over 17k euros in my savings, I could afford a car but don't see any reason to it and it breaks my heart when I see my friends having a car but still living in a shitty 50m2 apartment.
2020-01-25 19:32
#78
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Cars are a liability correct, and where possible, you should try to avoid needing one. However it's not feasible for many, but if you buy a car, always go 2nd hand, even if it's a Lamborghini. Buying brand new is such a waste of moneyb
2020-01-25 19:27
#95
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
But if you live in a city you don't really need a car.
2020-01-25 19:33
#112
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Yes but I don't
2020-01-25 19:42
#114
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Then I would honestly move out if I were you, how can anyone live outside of the city ? I was raised and lived in a big city my whole life, I don't understand how can someone live in a village or something.
2020-01-25 19:43
#121
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Well I probably will when I get a job, but there are pros and cons of both. I certainly wouldn't be living in the same size house if I were living in a city like London.
2020-01-25 20:00
#123
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
i live in a nice 110m2 aparment while my friends with cars are struggling and live from paycheck to paycheck in 50m2 apartments.
2020-01-25 20:02
#128
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Nice Some people never lean to save and invest. Also spending more than they earn smh my head
2020-01-25 20:07
#130
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Yeah... they are in the mid twenties and still don't know how spend money properly, it's insane. I'm glad my parents teached me to value money from a young age.
2020-01-25 20:11
#84
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Spain 1996 
i dont want to pay for a dude to toss me around in his prius for 40 euro, id rather have my own car, its pure freedom to go wherever you like for as long as you like
2020-01-25 19:28
#94
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
40 euro ? are you mad ?
2020-01-25 19:32
#100
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Spain 1996 
i guess germany is so densely populated than you dont have the pleasure of deserted backroads, dirt trails and difficult places to reach that are gems of the land, only reachable by car
2020-01-25 19:34
#102
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
I travel for that while my friends can't because they bought a car and now living from paycheck to paycheck.
2020-01-25 19:35
#107
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Spain 1996 
ofc, making an unjustified expense at a young age is bad decision mate, i just got my 1st car and im turning 24 soon, stable job, and the car is a cheap 20yo saxo from my grandpa, i also sometimes take the familys 4x4 for the antics i mentioned earlier, it drinks diesel like a champ though, cant do it every week
2020-01-25 19:38
#113
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
My friends are 24-30 and they still get fucked over by cars because they can't manage money, they also live in a city and don't really need it but still buy it.
2020-01-25 19:42
#115
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Spain 1996 
i can see the countryside right out of my window
2020-01-25 19:43
#117
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
RIP my man.
2020-01-25 19:44
#85
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
in the long run, it's cheaper than uber, faster than cycling. Not everyone can have time and energy to ride a bike to work. And travelling with planes is impossible on most travells
2020-01-25 19:29
#97
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
What do you mean when you say it's not possible to travel with planes ?
2020-01-25 19:33
#131
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
Because airports are only in big cities. Most tours that people do are just a couple of hundred kms, where it's not only impossible to travel by planes, but it'd take longer
2020-01-25 20:13
depends on your city and work hours, mostly if i would go with my car to work it would take me probably 1 hour more than the subway cuz all the traffic.
2020-01-25 19:34
You're funny guy. :-)
2020-01-25 19:32
#99
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Thank you, people say that to me a lot :)
2020-01-25 19:34
+1 i use car from my mother, she never uses it and when she need it i bring it back .
2020-01-25 19:33
#101
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
Expected...
2020-01-25 19:34
#108
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
- uber isn't really active in my town, im about 20km from the nearest "city" - uber would be much more expensive to use over time - if I get a job post college/university it's most likely gonna be at least 20km away, which without a car would be a combination of unreliable public transport and walking, fuck that - I'm not gonna buy a flashy mercedes or anything, most likely just something comfortable like ford fiesta/focus or VW golf/polo
2020-01-25 19:38
cars are liabilities so they depreciate over time fancy cars are a big waste
2020-01-25 19:43
I work at sales. I need my car to get to my clients around Finland. Plane, train, cab, uber works sometimes. Other times a car is needed.
2020-01-25 19:45
Fair enough
2020-01-25 20:06
#119
shrek | 
Norway de1ka 
If you live in big city, then yes, car is pretty useless and expensive, bicycle would fit better
2020-01-25 19:45
who cars
2020-01-25 20:03
I think owning a car is OK if you have kids, even for city dwellers. But I know some people who do a great job at only using it when needed (and some using it because they´re lazy and comfortable).
2020-01-25 20:06
nah, car is great
2020-01-25 20:20
Ever heard of personal comfort?
2020-01-25 20:22
not fun riding a bicycle when it's raining or even worse, snowing
2020-01-25 20:24
#140
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Germany Jixxahh_CS 
It's great and fun actually.
2020-01-25 20:27
Depends on where you live
2020-01-25 20:25
except i dont live in a city
2020-01-25 22:02
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