"so u mean u cant use intel stock cooler at all? :DDD" u can for cs n shit if u dont overclock but on high demanding games u should notice loud noise.for some people its ok, some people dont like it.
"All stock coolers suck." this was actually true and to be hones before ryzen cpus came out with their coolers, amd had worst stock coolers but thats in the past ~like 3 years atleast.
I like those ryzen coolers thats so weird that 3 years passed and intel didnt change their stock coolers (correct if wrong)