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OG.JerAx retired
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Russia angry_david1 
It's so fucking sad, one of the best Dota supports, double TI Winner and true legend announced his retirement. GL HF in future, J-GOD. I will miss you. mobile.twitter.com/OGesports/status/1221..
2020-01-27 07:12
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Who?
2020-01-27 07:14
#2
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Russia angry_david1 
JerAx, OG Dota player, double TI winner, legend of Dota and best support on the earth.
2020-01-27 07:15
I aren't know anything about Dota, but cool. Sounds like he had a nice career.
2020-01-27 07:16
#6
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Russia angry_david1 
He's one of the richest man in cybersport. (5 million dollars in prize money only) Back-to-back TI winner (the biggest and most prestigious Dota tournament), first in cybersport history with other OG players. Back-to-back Dota Major Champion (This Dota majors has a 3 million dollars prize pool). And best support player in the world.
2020-01-27 07:27
#43
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Finland iBait 
Pls stop saying cybersport
2020-01-27 07:59
#148
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Finland X3phyR 
Someone kill him for saying cybersport
2020-01-28 21:27
#92
LEo | 
Denmark FELIXXD 
Keep saying cybersport
2020-01-27 10:41
+1
2020-01-27 11:29
#120
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Finland subhumen 
Cyber_Sport :DD
2020-01-27 13:29
#128
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Russia angry_david1 
Sorry for my bad English :)
2020-01-27 14:19
Maybe go to school?
2020-01-28 11:57
NT, you don't even go to school greta
2020-01-28 12:08
hahah you just don't know about english "teaching" in russian schools
2020-01-28 12:23
#125
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong void0 
Afaik he was invited by president of Finland twice to the white house (or whatever it calls in Finland), and he was officially 1st esports player that got audition by president.
2020-01-27 14:00
#147
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
thats sickkk
2020-01-28 21:26
not best support sry
2020-01-27 10:14
#65
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Russia angry_david1 
Who is better on 4th position than JerAx?
2020-01-27 10:15
fy, gh
2020-01-27 10:16
#68
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Russia angry_david1 
Fy and LGD are losing everywhere now. Well, Gh is playing badly in Nigma now.
2020-01-27 10:18
#72
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
Fy might be losing but you cant deny hes a monster,that guy basically invented hoe you play Pos4 in the modern metagame, JerAx is a beast too but Fy is something else, even if his team underperforms. Best Tier 4 S+ tier: Fy S tier: JerAx, Yapz0r, GH, Cr1t
2020-01-27 10:22
#84
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Russia angry_david1 
Well, this is your opinion. I will adhere to my own, but I will not dispute yours, otherwise here the holly war will begin :)
2020-01-27 10:35
#87
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
Yea, honestly i can respect saying that JerAx is the best pos 4, especially considering hos TI performances, I just think Fy is an amazing player tactically and mechanically, but i can 100% respect a fan of Jesse or Yapzor saying they are the best, lets wait for the next major aince Leipzig was great
2020-01-27 10:37
Being sn innovator doesnt mean you're the best. Innovators rarely are, thats why they innovate.
2020-01-27 10:37
#89
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
The point is that Fy didnt innovate in boring tactical ways, he was dominating Pos4 so hard people had to start playing like him, rn PSG is having a slump, but Fy is still playing very good and i suggest you try to watch how Fy plays around the map and how he sets up Ame and Maybe(Somnus) to absolutely crush the opponents(PSG isnt working rn because Ame and Maybe arent playing well when ahead), if you arent a support player it will probably be super boring but i highly suggest it
2020-01-27 10:40
i stopped playing dota few years ago because of the high skill upkeep but I mainly played support. In my book jerax was one of the best before he won 2 TI's. Reasonably that would make him the best by now
2020-01-27 10:59
man jerax is playing a non-greedy 4 and he surely is the best one at that..
2020-01-28 21:25
#126
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong void0 
banana/sansheng, also lanm in his prime.
2020-01-27 14:01
cmon dude. yes he was a really good player and with no doubt a top 10 player in his role. but cause he retired don't call him the best support cause i can name at least 4 players that are better than him in pos 4 role.
2020-01-27 10:42
#153
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
who? yapzor is great but plays so fucking greedy and it only works cuz puppey is behind him rodjer is meh cr1t is meh gh is up at the top for sure dj is good but far from the best (jw best) fade is good but dead fy is good prolly top 5 thats basically it, idk what 4 players u can put above him except yap gh fade
2020-01-28 21:34
dude. Yapzor is so fucking good man. i don't care if he has puppey behind him, he does his job like a master. when he is on the rubick he is the main carry for his team just like GH and FY. and it's not only his rubick that's just an example. jerax is a top player but far from the Best pos 4.
2020-01-29 14:01
#165
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
it depends on the time era obv, in the past 2 internationals i would say jerax was the best 4 with fy fade gh yap close to him. in general currently id say yapzor is the best, all time its either fy or fade
2020-01-30 17:32
#150
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
best support on the earth, or best support on the earth spirit?
2020-01-28 21:27
Guy who was in linnanjuhlat.
2020-01-27 07:27
Torijuhlat is better according to my finnish sources
2020-01-27 08:01
torijuhlat is for leftist twats only
2020-01-27 09:00
wtf is my finnish undercover agent a leftie??? might reveal his identity
2020-01-27 10:23
Most earned player in Finland and second most earned player in the world
2020-01-27 07:47
Richest man, goat farmer in finland.
2020-01-27 10:23
#3
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Qatar Number2awper 
-Jerax +Aleksib
2020-01-27 07:15
#45
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United States gtmaniacmda 
-aleksib +jerax
2020-01-27 08:03
#154
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
1 matu 2 topson 3 peksu 4 jerax 5 aleksib
2020-01-28 21:47
#5
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Finland Cucumber)) 
kinda sad would've been cool if they would've kept the international win streak going but good things must come to an end at some point(
2020-01-27 07:17
#7
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Russia angry_david1 
Yea, RIP best Dota team in history.
2020-01-27 07:19
#8
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Germany MackyGee 
F.....I guess?
2020-01-27 07:20
#9
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Russia angry_david1 
Yes, F. it's so sad. He was my favourite player after N0tail....
2020-01-27 07:23
bruh... that's so sad :(
2020-01-27 07:24
#12
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Russia angry_david1 
Yea, really:( I do not know how OG will be able to find a replacement for him. He was the best in his position and remains so even after leaving.
2020-01-27 07:27
yeah, it'll be impossible to find a sub as good as him but i'm sure og will find someone
2020-01-27 07:27
jumping out of the ship before it sinks dota dying game
2020-01-27 07:26
#15
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Russia angry_david1 
Yea, Dota is dying, that's a fact. Bcs moron IceFrog and fat pig Gabe release idiotic updates
2020-01-27 07:31
yeah, there was a time I tried to learn dota but didn't go all the way. so I tried a few months later maybe a year, and A LOT had changed. so overwhelming. and I'm already not the average gamer. Also everybody is very good at the game as there are no new players at all.
2020-01-27 07:31
#23
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Russia angry_david1 
No, I'm not talking about a lot of change, I'm talking about the fact that these two idiots added shitty outposts and random clothes. In DotA, and so the balance was relative, now it is gone.
2020-01-27 07:37
still more prizepool than csgo
2020-01-27 07:28
no sustainable t2 or t3 low number of players zero new players players quitting everyday valve asked csgo community if they wanted an international, and No was the answer.
2020-01-27 07:29
nobodoy cares about t2 or t3 low number of players?????????? zero new players????????????? defuq men its a still top game in steam chart sometimes
2020-01-27 07:32
1. a healthy pro scene needs a healthy t2 and t3. look at how mibr gets a lot of attention. on dota t2 and t3 doesnt get attention 2. yes, going down 3. yes, very few new players. try and create a new account to see how the experience is. not to mention the daunting complexity
2020-01-27 07:56
#99
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I loved the jab at mibr
2020-01-27 11:52
k im lost
2020-01-27 13:59
maybe like a week ago it had the lowest number of players since like 2014
2020-01-27 10:15
#67
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Finland Goble81 
That kind of attitude "who cars about T2 and T3 teams, leagues and organizations" is a recipe for downfall of any game in the long run.
2020-01-27 10:17
k im lost
2020-01-27 13:58
steamcharts.com/app/570#All yes the playerbase is going down
2020-01-28 21:25
#156
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Finland HARD4ENCE 
Because the Chinese got bored?
2020-01-29 00:51
The Chinese playerbase isn't showing on the steam charts I believe
2020-01-29 23:40
i cannot say its not dying but its not like what are you saying at all
2020-01-27 07:33
k im lost
2020-01-27 13:58
it takes a great man to recognize defeat before it's too late :)
2020-01-27 17:07
When did they ask for a international for csgo? And excuse my idiotic, but what is a international. isn't is a major? (don't play dota)
2020-01-31 06:27
I don't have the source, but 100% positive cs pro community was consulted by ValvE and denied interest in an international. I don't know so much about it, but in dota there is this single tourney every year that will pay huge ammounts of cash, not even comparable to other dota tourneys. This is good for propaganda, some might say, but it's not the best structure for stablishing a sustainable pro scene. I'm not sure, but I think in cs there are 2 majors per year by valve, and a lot of other big events (considering prize money). Also, sticker money, as far as I know, goes directly to player, not organization. This doesn't happen in dota, I think. Someone might complement/correct me on all this.
2020-02-01 17:43
Ahhh, so valve asked the pros. Makes sense. Thanks for the information.
2020-02-01 20:38
#96
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Finland Racista 
says the lol cunt, deadshit game with $200K prize pool xD
2020-01-27 11:35
k im lost
2020-01-27 13:58
hopefully it dies, so cs gets more pricemoney from stingy valve
2020-01-28 21:23
indeed a legend watching him made me to learn earh spirit
2020-01-27 07:29
Ana with another long break, Jerax retiring, rip OG
2020-01-27 07:31
#25
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Russia angry_david1 
Ana will back before TI, I think. But JerAx retiring is one of the saddest things what happened in Dota.
2020-01-27 07:36
Ana will skip this season DPC mate.
2020-01-27 07:37
#34
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Russia angry_david1 
Well, it's just my hope.
2020-01-27 07:43
#24
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
OG. SumaiL OG. Saksa Welcome.
2020-01-27 07:34
#28
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Russia angry_david1 
I agree about SumaiL, but if Saksa can really replace JerAx?
2020-01-27 07:39
#33
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Israel geturlolon 
sumail overrated af
2020-01-27 07:43
#35
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Russia angry_david1 
SumaiL is playing very well on carry. And now no one can replace Ana, except him.
2020-01-27 07:45
#57
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Israel geturlolon 
ana didn't leave, he's just on vaca. sumail is 100% the most overrated player, more than rtz or ee at his apex of meme shit.
2020-01-27 09:06
#59
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Russia angry_david1 
Ana will return only in the next DPC season. Those, TI he will miss too, most likely. OG is needed so far only by someone who can replace it at a decent level. Of the free agents, there are only SumaiL and MidOne. MidOne played on carry very poorly in open qualifications for major, so there is only SumaiL, who also plays very well. And why did you mention RTZ and EE? The first one cannot win the event from Valve for several years already. Well, EE is a ruiner in general.
2020-01-27 09:19
#69
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
There is no way sumaiL is more overrated than EE/RTZ, that's just retarded. He's literally top 2 mid laner, alongside MidOne.
2020-01-27 10:20
#132
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Israel geturlolon 
sumail crashed and burned for how many years in eg once ppd left? he even had rtz and cr1t making room for him every match and he still played subpar. he was great at one point but he's coasting harder than mixwell nowadays.
2020-01-27 17:11
#135
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Mechanically at mid he is 1v1 the best/second best, without a doubt.
2020-01-28 11:56
#155
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Israel geturlolon 
only mechanically, sure hes great, but theres a ton more important stuff.
2020-01-28 23:31
sumail is on a team with s4 on an NA org, OG will take madara from their seed team and a surprise pos 4
2020-01-28 12:18
#27
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Finland veganisti 
he need time to spend the money
2020-01-27 07:38
#30
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Russia angry_david1 
No, he's really retired. Just read this: ogs.gg/thank-you-jesse/ He's really tired from ProDota.
2020-01-27 07:41
lanm and iceiceice also retired years ago look where they are now
2020-01-28 12:20
#29
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Akke is better
2020-01-27 07:39
#31
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Russia angry_david1 
Akke played on 5th position, JerAx on 4th. You're can't compare them.
2020-01-27 07:41
#36
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Vigoss is better
2020-01-27 07:45
#38
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Russia angry_david1 
Viggos is midlaner, right?
2020-01-27 07:46
#47
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Yes like +10 years ago
2020-01-27 08:07
#32
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Israel geturlolon 
watch him unretire come ti lol
2020-01-27 07:42
sorry man, we dont care
2020-01-27 07:45
You cared enough to click the thread and even comment on it
2020-01-27 07:49
#41
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Russia angry_david1 
+1
2020-01-27 07:50
#46
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Russia sasha1608 
+1
2020-01-27 08:05
to check
2020-01-27 08:40
#48
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United States gtmaniacmda 
retire on top!
2020-01-27 08:10
#49
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Russia angry_david1 
+1000
2020-01-27 08:25
F
2020-01-27 08:43
people still play dota lol ?
2020-01-27 08:44
#53
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Palestine Xpicyy 
Who the fuck cars? Go to dota forums u nerd
2020-01-27 08:45
wtf is he retarded? its a loser mentality, he probably only played for money and dont give a shit since he is a fucking millionaire. he could give it last run and go for third ti in a row but he leaves it all like that, damn.... he put og in a very uncomfortable spot, now they have to seek for 2 new players, its disgusting feel bad for notail(((
2020-01-27 08:51
#56
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Russia angry_david1 
JerAx is simply no longer motivated to play on. He was tired of ProDota, from training, etc. From everything, in short. If he stayed on, he would put the teammates in a more uncomfortable position, because he doesn’t want to train, and that would be bad for the level of OG game. So, i think it will be + SumaiL, + Saksa.
2020-01-27 09:06
#71
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
yeah so tired of playing 2 tournaments in 2 years, fucking scumbags OG
2020-01-27 10:22
#76
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
I'd like them to get SumaiL but I think they're very big on friendly players, and SumaiL is known to be a bit of a prick, so I don't really know if he'll fit in that well with OG. They may just go out of the pro scene again, and get some randomers, maybe gilger, and maybe gorgc to troll :D
2020-01-27 10:24
#90
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Russia angry_david1 
You are somehow stereotypically thinking of SumaiL. Just watch this interview: youtu.be/TUVtyE3g6zA He is no longer the toxic boy who comes across trashtalk every now and then. He has already matured and grown as a person.
2020-01-27 10:40
#97
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Well hopefully that's the case and he does go to OG
2020-01-27 11:48
#70
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
+1 i have no respect for OG players, after they win TI they dont even play majors.. they only care about money
2020-01-27 10:21
But if they only cared about money why wouldnt they play majors?
2020-01-27 10:25
#79
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
to establish themselves as number 1 team? nobody talks about them as n1 team in the world, even though they won TI, everyone knows they are irrelevant the truth is they wouldnt do shit at majors, maybe win 1 per year, average team, but so lucky
2020-01-27 10:28
If they only care about money they wouldnt care if they are #1 or not. Major has money, if you do good, you get money. If they only want money, they would play majors to get money, not take a break.
2020-01-27 10:32
#83
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
would understand if they were preparing for the next TI this year would sound awesome, but they dont even play dota, they dont fuckng care about the game anymore, they just take 1 year vacation (they say it themselves) sorry i have no respect for those who doesnt care about the game that made their life, fuck them
2020-01-27 10:33
My point: they care about TI, not money
2020-01-27 10:35
#91
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
TI = money, everyone who follows dota knows that, it lost its legacy back in the day pros played for the idea of beating other teams, for that competitive feeling, nobody cared about money how come OG lose that feeling after they win 30mil$?? why dont want to beat others teams every other month of the year? like astralis do? just compare them to astralis who tries to win every single tournament, and tell me who is playing for money and who is not , what do you think?
2020-01-27 10:41
#100
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
It's hard to spend your entire life playing a video game, with little time for family/girlfriends etc when you've got 6+mill in the bank, and won everything worth winning, multiple times. I don't get why you're so angry about it lol, how long do these guys have to play for before you approve of them to retire?
2020-01-27 11:58
#103
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
see the thing is they did not retire.. thats why im angry
2020-01-27 12:03
#101
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
You speak sense, but you gotta see they are in a very uncommon comfortable position. They won a lot of money basically by showing up when it really mattered. They are too spoiled by those wins.
2020-01-27 11:58
#80
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
they win 1 tournament and then take 1 year vacation xDD nice job i hope they spend all their money soon , really hope , wanna see how quick they will comeback then :)))))
2020-01-27 10:29
#81
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
tbh TI even lost its legacy for me cuz of them, and for others as well? no one talks about it as the world championship anymore (THE INTERNATIONAL), its just a chance to make yourself a living for a long time, just a chance to win a lot of money, not to prove youre the best fucking team, thx OG for that in a way
2020-01-27 10:32
#58
buster | 
Kazakhstan Nefilim 
who cars about shit game players
2020-01-27 09:07
#60
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Russia VeryFemboyGuy 
Why so many players in dota quit so early wasn't that long ago when a guy in liquid stopped playing
2020-01-27 10:08
#63
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Russia angry_david1 
What player are you talking about?
2020-01-27 10:15
Which one?
2020-01-27 12:07
If i remember correctly he was a finn and name started with T
2020-01-27 12:11
Topson? He doesn't play for Liquid and is not retired.
2020-01-27 12:32
It was probably Matubaman but he seems to be playing again
2020-01-27 12:52
Being kicked from a team is not a retirement anyway. He never stopped.
2020-01-27 12:53
#129
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Russia angry_david1 
He's playing for Team Secret now. And yesterday he just win a major :)
2020-01-27 14:20
#167
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Finland Slyp3 
He was kicked lol
2020-01-30 17:39
#61
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Korea XigNw0w 
Ok
2020-01-27 10:14
haven't followed dota in a while. feelsbadman for notail, dude's probably got some serious abandonment issues by now.
2020-01-27 10:22
He doesn't. Today was an interview where he said that he was excited for the new roster. And also is not like he will lose his friends. All 3 of them are still part of OG only inactive.
2020-01-29 23:42
#77
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Europe KappaKaako 
Only russians and asians care bout this trash game. The real OG wc3 dota is where its at
2020-01-27 10:24
#102
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
that was insane, so much fun
2020-01-27 11:59
Yet no russians and asians are winning anymore KEKW, EU GREATEST, 2 EU teams in TI finals and 3 TI WINS FOR EU IN A ROW !
2020-01-28 21:31
#88
Monkey | 
Poland $o$ 
Reported
2020-01-27 10:39
#98
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Czech Republic Xedys 
Whyyyy
2020-01-27 11:51
#119
Monkey | 
Poland $o$ 
its not dota 2 forum
2020-01-27 13:24
-ISSAA +JerAx
2020-01-27 12:05
I believe Sumail could join them if he will to play 1 or 4. Miss another player for this season. Perhaps his brother or their coach.
2020-01-27 12:06
SumaiL joining, as expected.
2020-01-28 21:22
#107
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Russia RogueDecay 
Not best choice, he will likely regret and come back. BurNIng announced hes retirement many times, and came back atleast 2 times, but it was different story, not story of success. He was playing carry role and had one of the best results at the time being, but never had luck on TI, even though in before the event hes teams were always what you can call one of the favourites. Another TI winner ppd announced retirement in 2015 and came back in 2017. Fear, xiao8 same story. List never end, the only difference is that JerAx is the richest pro to retire from esports.
2020-01-27 12:11
yes it was not very smart he could do the mibr and don't care about winning but only about checks :)
2020-01-27 17:09
Expected when u won more than 6,000,000$ now he can enjoy the life
2020-01-27 12:12
#110
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Norway CheNaLii 
Who cars?
2020-01-27 12:22
he is ending at the career's top, its not so bad decission He can focus on something else now?
2020-01-27 12:38
#118
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
prolly ye, has shit tons of money to invest in something/make some kind of business or smth
2020-01-27 12:55
#140
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong void0 
He already has his clothes brand =]
2020-01-28 12:23
I dont care about this weebo game
2020-01-27 12:44
Talking about dota on cs forum, retard ruski
2020-01-27 12:46
#117
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
dude was like 2ez winning those TIs and just left
2020-01-27 12:54
#127
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Finland sucstoByou 
fuck, gonna miss this handsome man.
2020-01-27 14:09
He won 4 times more money than astralis, he's gonna be fine Good time to retire too, 27 years old and wanna try something else, pretty smart
2020-01-27 17:16
the unsung carry of OG <3 literally watched demos of his earth spirit. an absolute god.
2020-01-27 17:23
#144
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China KoreanFan 
ana taking a break JerAx retired Ceb gone RIP.
2020-01-28 21:25
Sumail new hope?
2020-01-28 21:27
#158
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China KoreanFan 
Pls no.
2020-01-29 16:06
Saksa then?
2020-01-29 23:35
#164
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China KoreanFan 
I'm really not sure about Saksa. Do you think he is good enough?
2020-01-30 07:14
#151
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Switzerland Sylleo 
Perkelele, i'm gonna miss watching his earth-spirit and tusk
2020-01-28 21:28
this has nothing to do with csgo, gtfo
2020-01-29 23:44
#163
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United Kingdom Mattthematt 
Imo most skilled player to ever touch the game, absolute legend and so sad to see him go
2020-01-29 23:45
hmm he was rly rly good but saying most skilled a little bit too much (imo)
2020-01-30 17:33
#168
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United Kingdom Mattthematt 
He combined insane mechanical skill with an the ability to read the game so well
2020-01-30 23:25
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