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Buff AUG?
dupreeh | 
Sweden bananablast900 
Well now everyone knows how to use krieg well, why not re-introduce old AUG? It would be more fair because now both teams have a long range gun and a short range gun. Old AUG still wasn't as good as krieg so I think it would work out pretty well. What you think?
2020-01-27 22:47
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#1
COCAINE | 
Brazil oneS2 
why dont nerf krieg instead?
2020-01-27 22:48
#3
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United States Jaksin 
Krieg is more fun to use than the AK imo
2020-01-27 22:49
#4
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United States Jaksin 
nerfing it would cause everyone to use the AK over it
2020-01-27 22:50
#37
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Thats a good thing lol
2020-01-28 00:42
Not for valve, they want more guns to have expensive skins in the game and the best way to do that it to get people using it. They realise they fucked up by nerfing the AUG since everyone stopped using it. They wont make that mistake again...
2020-01-28 02:19
Got an ace solo b dust hold 1v5 on buy today so still a good gun
2020-01-28 05:30
#57
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United States Tf1wS 
AUG was also really OP though...
2020-01-28 06:21
forgot the r8 already?
2020-01-28 08:00
Better 1st bullet accuracy is needed and has been since forever
2020-01-29 00:20
#7
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Greenland BrutallyHonest 
try call of duty
2020-01-27 22:52
#9
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United States Jaksin 
I wouldn't like it
2020-01-27 22:53
valve isnt nerfing krieg. its been too long for them to not be nerfing the krieg. they must think its balanced in some way.
2020-01-27 22:50
I think they're trying to attract people from other games like r6 it might not even be exactly unbalanced but it's just a shitty ugly low skill gun that was never relevant in CS until recently
2020-01-27 22:55
maybe, if so why not just re-buff aug so more people like playing CT then? tbh i liked aug and sg553 meta rather than just sg553. idk why people thought the krieg was so much better than the AUG when krieg had better stats in almost every way.
2020-01-27 22:55
probably incoming, would not even surprise me if they just let people aim down sights on every gun at some point
2020-01-27 22:56
tbh i doubt it. they let the krieg be this broken for so long and it doesn't seem like they have any interest in actually buffing the AUG to compete with it.
2020-01-27 22:59
might be working on scope skins in the meantime
2020-01-27 23:00
Besides the fact that they did already nerf the SG, Valve takes ages to bring balance changes
2020-01-27 23:02
lol.. nerf did absolutely nothing. $300 is nothing for Ts in this economy. i cant help but laugh if you think $2750 = completely broken but $3000 = completely balanced
2020-01-28 00:30
I didn't say that. I said that they did put out a nerf and then needed to wait for the meta to settle in so they can could collect data on how the nerf worked out. Now that they have the data to see that the nerf was not enough they can think about the next nerf. Valve has the goal to make multiple weapons viable other than just the AK and M4 so they are very careful with their nerfs since they don't want to destroy the weapon
2020-01-28 01:05
Because now Valve got what they wanted, both the krieg and ak are now being used by the T-side, now Valve have to figure out how to do the same with the aug and m4 because since they nerfed the aug, nobody is using it, they nerfed it too much.
2020-01-27 23:06
#2
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I don't want the old AUG. I want the buffed AUG that shot super laser beams at 6000 rpm from patches ago.
2020-01-27 22:48
i dont mean augpocalypse from 2014, I just mean from before its most recent nerf.
2020-01-27 22:52
and All maps are ct sided
2020-01-27 22:53
look at map stats for 2018 v. 2019. 2018 a.k.a. year of the AUG had more T sided active duty maps than 2019 did according to the stats.
2020-01-27 22:58
#79
Aleksib | 
Europe lalt 
You are messing up timeline. AUG meta become a thing during Katowice minors ie. in the beginning of 2019. That's when all top tier teams switched to.
2020-01-28 22:44
+1 I think this is the main reason why they nerfed the AUG to death. also it would actually be better if gun prices were balance across T and CT and T/CT received different amounts of win/loss bonus. That way CT/T balance and gun balance would be separated. But I doubt that this will ever happen and people would probably have a meltdown.
2020-01-27 23:19
#13
2020-01-28 00:34
2018 wasn't the "year of the AUG" as the price of the AUG was reduced in Oct 2018, increased in March 2019 (which had little impact) and basically nerfed to death in June 2019. Also initially players didn't use the AUG so much. If anything the map stats support the idea that it made the game more CT sided. But you'd have to look at like Nov/Dec 2018 to Jun 2019 data.
2020-01-28 13:29
Not necessary, it's still marginally viable.
2020-01-27 22:59
#4 player of 2019 EliGE said there is pretty much no point in using AUG over M4. Recent Dreamhack tournament: hltv.org/stats?event=4868 AUG didn't even make the graph. It's clearly no where near "viable" enough to compete at a high level, compared to the supremacy of the krieg in nearly all aspects compared to every other rifle.
2020-01-28 00:37
It isn't worse than the M4 in every situation, most pros just don't care enough to use both. Sort of like how no pros used the AUG/Krieg before Valve dropped the price because they didn't care enough about the marginal, situational advantage. It's "viable" enough for people who aren't pros to use, so that isn't the problem. I don't really want a scoped rifle back in the meta, so I'm fine with how it is right now.
2020-01-28 00:41
#17
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Poland JKG 
IMO they should buff AUG Shoudn't be as good as before nerf, but since sg is not nerfed at all AUG should be a little better than it is now
2020-01-27 23:02
nt
2020-01-27 23:22
#25
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Poland JKG 
? Reply needs to have actual content
2020-01-28 00:07
Nt
2020-01-28 22:15
#19
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United Kingdom c0n^ 
Not a fan of seeing CT teams starting rounds with 5x Krieg's.
2020-01-27 23:06
? Krieg is better than AUG. There is pretty much 1 aspect where the AUG is better than krieg and its barley noticeable, movement speed.
2020-01-28 00:31
#39
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United Kingdom c0n^ 
I'm not saying it isn't better, I just don't want to see 10x Krieg's each time where possible.
2020-01-28 01:01
Its gg for me if cs turns completely into scoped rifle game
2020-01-27 23:08
You like one team having a completely broken scoped rifle but not the other team having one as well?
2020-01-28 00:31
#34
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Finland HARD4ENCE 
Technically it's better to have the gun advantage on T side because it is somewhat harder side to play. The game had never been more CT sided when the former version of AUG was in play.
2020-01-28 00:36
#42
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
true, for example on train having augs was ez game
2020-01-28 01:04
#72
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Canada The_HD_Is_Now 
"The game had never been more CT sided when the former version of AUG was in play." that was because no one was using kriegs at the time, so of course it was super ct sided. it's the same reason why the game was never as t sided as it is now.
2020-01-28 21:35
#73
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Finland HARD4ENCE 
Why weren't they? Krieg was literally every bit as OP then as it is now. Why is the scene so slow to adjust?
2020-01-28 22:13
#75
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Canada The_HD_Is_Now 
it was every bit as OP has it is now for what? over 7 years now? just goes to show how oblivious humans can be, really.
2020-01-28 22:36
#22
woxic | 
Brazil pooternd 
I wish that the AUG firerate returned to 667, and the accuracy unscoped a little better than now.
2020-01-27 23:12
Never. Krieg should be nerfed aswell, price same as AK but fire-rate should be reduced same as was done with AUG
2020-01-28 00:11
Doesn't seem like they are nerfing the krieg. They just aren't.
2020-01-28 00:32
#41
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
its not that bad
2020-01-28 01:03
#30
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Finland HARD4ENCE 
Yes, do this and ENCE -suNny +aleksib and ez top 1.
2020-01-28 00:32
#38
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
SCOPENCE
2020-01-28 00:43
Aug was always a shit weapon even before nerf Just force buy armor and five-seven every round ez win 😎👌
2020-01-28 00:34
#40
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
"Old AUG still wasn't as good as krieg " Old aug was fucking op as fuck, you couldn't counter that shit first 4 bullets go like fucking mp9, it was much more tilting than krieg
2020-01-28 01:03
maybe in your shit low level games but krieg was objectively better than AUG
2020-01-28 05:59
#70
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
MaYbE In YoUr ShIt LoW LeVeL GaMeS aug was op as fuck idiot more op than krieg is now
2020-01-28 19:45
#76
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Canada The_HD_Is_Now 
it's statically worse/equal to the krieg in literally every aspect other than accuracy and movement speed lol
2020-01-28 22:46
#81
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
ok
2020-01-29 00:17
#44
FalleN | 
Brazil dmn1 
yes, lets have two stupid weapons instead of just one nice logic
2020-01-28 01:40
that's what's gonna happen tho
2020-01-28 06:20
STFU, retards are not allowed to have opinions. This is the problem with democracy; stupid idiots that barely managed to achieve the ability of speech will have a say in the collective fate.
2020-01-28 02:07
fat kid alert
2020-01-28 05:58
#69
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao 
Describing yourself?
2020-01-28 17:01
You mad?
2020-01-28 20:38
#83
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao 
Actually you mad
2020-02-03 13:37
#77
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Canada The_HD_Is_Now 
"retards are not allowed to have opinions" who's going decide if someone's a "retard"? YOU? 0/8 nt
2020-01-28 22:39
It'd very hard for an idiot to realize that he is actually an idiot but through the course of his life, people around him would have found it incredibly obvious and some must have informed them of their lack of active brain cells and cheer stupidity.
2020-01-28 22:45
#47
s1mple | 
Brazil afxsaw1 
Nerf krieg would be the right shot wtf
2020-01-28 02:24
no
2020-01-28 02:27
Fuck off
2020-01-28 05:42
fat kid alert
2020-01-28 05:58
You wish
2020-01-28 10:52
Just make the unscoped accuracy back to pre nerf levels. Firerate can stay
2020-01-28 05:57
+1 aug with zoom is ok, but it’s worse than usp without zoom
2020-01-28 06:01
#59
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Finland Cucumber)) 
I myself wouldn't mind if they buffed the aug but atm it's a good weapon and at least being used
2020-01-28 08:06
#60
Slovakia uno1 
just make first bullet accuracy without zoom and it will be fine.
2020-01-28 08:06
#61
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United States Massacrejr 
Remember that AUG and Krieg update in 2014. That's how they should be.
2020-01-28 08:10
#62
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Sweden DeeColon 
AUG is normal now, Krieg should be nerfed instead.
2020-01-28 08:58
#64
Yeet | 
Spain H0TDOGG 
Buff rpm a lil bit and maybie decrease price to 3200
2020-01-28 10:55
#66
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Brazil Cleckzera 
T guns > CT guns, they shoudn't do it
2020-01-28 13:31
#67
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
maybe not firerate, but unscoped accuracy should probably be increased, or sg should undergo same of these changes
2020-01-28 16:52
#68
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United States RichardSchitt 
no fuck you and fuck the aug and fuck the kreig
2020-01-28 16:53
yea but krieg on ct side is OP as fk
2020-01-28 22:40
#84
ZywOo | 
France MrWowo 
no
2020-02-03 13:40
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