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Faze and Mouz swap
autist | 
Brazil Typical_low_iq_brazillian 
Faze ChrisJ (to IGL) Mouz Broky (firepower) upgrade to both teams someone make this happen
2020-01-28 16:21
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Name checks out
2020-01-28 16:22
YOURE WRONG
2020-01-28 16:22
Flair checks out
2020-01-28 16:31
youre right
2020-01-28 16:33
polak scene LUL
2020-01-28 16:36
Flag checks out
2020-01-29 00:16
NA CS LUL
2020-01-29 00:19
MiBR never won a T1 LAN No BR in top 10 0 BR in top 20 players
2020-01-29 04:17
Na never had ERA Na 1 Major < BR 2 Majors Na 0 top 1 player BR 2 top 1 players in the row LUL
2020-01-29 14:41
Destroyed
2020-01-29 14:46
BR won 2 Majors when no top team was at 100% BR era is the worst era of all time, and wasnt even dominant. Just had #1 for awhile because the rest of the top teams kept beating eachother Cold top 1 by baiting NA won more events in a row than BR ever did NA Major was actually a hard fought run please, look into why your country achieved these things. It was all circumstance ;)
2020-01-29 18:47
Wtf youre saying LG beat Liquid with the most insane comeback ever, any team that was in that semifinal could be the champion Anyway that is cry Goatzera still bigger than any NA player Lg/Sk had 2 years in top 1 >> Liquid 6 months no major "ERA" LUL
2020-01-29 18:54
“Bigger than any NA player” LOL HES LITERALLY A MIDGET
2020-01-29 19:37
Best brazilian players literally in dead T2 teams btw.
2020-01-29 20:54
LG beat Liquid because it was Liquid that choked every single lead that they had.
2020-01-29 23:32
so? still a biggest comeback ever mainly in Cache
2020-01-29 23:36
#155
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Portugal iamchadux 
Na scene > Brazil scene, sorry dude but you gotta embrace it.
2020-01-30 15:15
by Portugal OMEGALUL
2020-01-30 15:17
#158
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Portugal iamchadux 
sorry dude, but it's true. Also here is a vedio of FAllen literally BOWING FOX youtube.com/watch?v=09lLwRsh2Vc (6:05)
2020-01-30 18:11
one player scene OMEGALUL
2020-01-30 22:27
NA with all the money and teams won Major after Brasils won 2wo! NA CS is ashameful!
2020-01-29 17:26
Brazil still less relevant in modern CS B) Also the 2 Majors won by Brazil they didnt have any real competition outside a shitty Liquid roster carried by s1mple because every top team had issues lul
2020-01-29 18:45
Name checks out
2020-01-28 16:22
cant argue?
2020-01-28 16:23
#4
Sugar | 
Europe Daddy! 
Hmmmm.... what about... no?
2020-01-28 16:23
so sit down and watch Astralis take over everyone again
2020-01-28 16:24
#8
Sugar | 
Europe Daddy! 
It would not be an improvement. Neither for FaZe nor for mousesports.
2020-01-28 16:25
prof or
2020-01-28 16:25
#13
Sugar | 
Europe Daddy! 
Flag checks out.
2020-01-28 16:26
nt braindead
2020-01-28 16:27
#17
Sugar | 
Europe Daddy! 
nt mankey.
2020-01-28 16:28
cya in 10
2020-01-28 16:28
#21
Sugar | 
Europe Daddy! 
Butthurt brasilian.
2020-01-28 16:29
#22
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Canada Herodionus 
I'm down
2020-01-28 16:30
flair checks -_-
2020-01-28 16:31
#34
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Canada Herodionus 
Problem?
2020-01-28 16:34
could work tbh
2020-01-28 16:24
yea dude Ropz, Frozen and Broky three young aims
2020-01-28 16:25
and FaZe disband after swap
2020-01-29 14:00
Cold, Niko and Olof Its just 3 better players of history in one team They just need some organization
2020-01-29 14:36
maybe
2020-01-30 14:42
niko wont listen to chrisj
2020-01-28 16:26
this is past
2020-01-28 16:27
Prove it or I won't believe you
2020-01-29 17:28
Niko was #11 in 2k19 Surely he saw how bad he is at IGL
2020-01-29 18:42
SHAT AP!
2020-01-28 16:38
#84
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Europe Humber99 
Shut up!
2020-01-29 00:44
I like tbh never liked Chrisj anyway, i like the idea of sending him to his doom
2020-01-28 16:26
#19
chrisJ | 
Netherlands GODJ69 
I think you have a disease in ur head
2020-01-28 16:29
#86
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Europe Humber99 
BotJ
2020-01-29 00:44
OnLANJ
2020-01-29 19:08
sure send him to Faze and make a super ego team
2020-01-28 16:29
You deserve death sentence
2020-01-28 16:31
i think you have mental problems bro
2020-01-28 16:45
wrong
2020-01-28 16:35
name & flair checks out
2020-01-28 16:26
#23
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Germany cya_in_10 
Name, flair and flag*
2020-01-28 16:30
yeah
2020-01-28 16:31
cya in 10
2020-01-28 16:32
#32
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Germany cya_in_10 
i doubt
2020-01-28 16:33
chrisJ : 2nd awp, 2nd IGL, support, lurker, scout king broky : talented young gun mouz never accept this
2020-01-28 16:31
maybe no Mouz cant beat a single-man team Vitality in Epicenter they need more fire power
2020-01-28 16:35
#45
tabseN | 
Germany Kexor 
yeah but won 3 events before that in a row...faze cant even get to grand finals xD
2020-01-28 16:39
ESL Pro League was the big win and Astralis lost to themselves Mouz is at EG level still below than Astralis and Liquid
2020-01-28 16:43
and broky cant change that :D
2020-01-28 16:48
we would never know Frozen, Ropz, Broky, Woxic seems pretty good for me
2020-01-28 17:01
mouz atm look very strong for me
2020-01-29 13:55
Yup but i cant see they winning major with this line
2020-01-29 14:37
Brazil never win Major again
2020-01-29 19:09
agree
2020-01-29 23:31
i cant see anybody wins a major with astralis attemp
2020-01-30 11:05
after EPL 10 we have some hope
2020-01-30 15:15
#71
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CIS kryto203 
Eg literally cant win against mouz. How are they on the same level? 0/8
2020-01-28 20:09
They are a top 3 team but cant be top 1 Just like EG 1 weak era LUL
2020-01-29 00:06
#91
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CIS kryto203 
Eg were lucky no way they are top3 atm
2020-01-29 05:16
+1
2020-01-29 13:55
Eg had good form for 1 month Just like Mouz Mouz had 5 months to win something
2020-01-29 14:40
u cant win everything. big fucked Astralis in Inferno
2020-01-28 16:40
online btw
2020-01-28 16:43
2-1 LUL but i remember this match great game for BIG
2020-01-28 16:46
+1 and also entry
2020-01-28 16:38
Broky also sex god
2020-01-29 14:37
Did he fuck u? Where do u know?
2020-01-29 14:38
Just look at him it’s obvious.
2020-01-29 18:48
Everything checks out
2020-01-28 16:32
Chris has stated in a interview that he doesn't like being IGL so its never going to happen (for the better)
2020-01-28 16:33
link pls
2020-01-28 16:37
youtube.com/watch?v=P51rEn3_ELE around 4:30 quote: ''I also didn't really want to call, i got tired of it''
2020-01-28 20:11
interesting but I think he said that because he is raging to much during the game and it affects his calls does not mean it will never be IGL he is 29 yo btw
2020-01-29 00:13
#35
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Finland ilikecereal61 
why would chrisj downgrade GIGALUL
2020-01-28 16:34
Faze with him would an another level Mouz would have great potential with 3 young talents
2020-01-28 16:40
4 young talents*
2020-01-28 16:53
im talking about riflers but youre right
2020-01-28 17:00
#92
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Denmark bebm 
woxic is no longer young by cs terms
2020-01-29 05:25
Not fair, we have almost the same age ;(
2020-01-29 10:01
why would mouz downgrade tho thats the bigger question lol
2020-01-29 00:43
mouz rain tho
2020-01-28 16:35
Great move for FaZe Decent move for mouz Shitty move for chrisJ
2020-01-28 16:36
#44
tabseN | 
Germany Kexor 
broky and firepower...pick one he is totally garbage since he's in faze
2020-01-28 16:38
ofc dude Baiting for Niko and Cold
2020-01-28 16:40
Actually a very descent idea, You are not low iq xd
2020-01-28 16:46
idk if you are being ironic thanks anyway xD
2020-01-28 16:48
About team or iq? xD Im not being ironic at all
2020-01-28 16:48
Cause mouz they have kinda 2 guys who are pretty decent IGLs right? And meanwhile FaZe are falling apart due to absence of an igl
2020-01-28 16:50
#60
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Netherlands Jonasio 
FaZe needs to disband
2020-01-28 16:54
+1 agree
2020-01-28 17:00
#61
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Poland JKG 
Broky firepower Pick one
2020-01-28 16:55
aleksib to mouses, karrigan to faze, that's what i want.
2020-01-28 17:02
this will not happen definitely
2020-01-28 17:07
Chrisj for broky is not going to happen too.
2020-01-28 17:12
Isnt impossible a swape But karrigan dont want back to Faze And OG dont will sell Alex yet
2020-01-29 00:19
Nooo Chrisj Is bae
2020-01-28 17:30
Hi MR. WENDT I hope you change your mind
2020-01-29 00:18
#69
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United Kingdom aight_dontbet 
-faze
2020-01-28 17:31
#72
Luken | 
Sweden fxzo 
Why ruin mouz? They are an insane team rn
2020-01-28 20:11
I do not believe that they are consistent The lost for Vitality was disappoiment for me
2020-01-29 00:15
They literally made 4 finals in a row and won 3 of them, what more do you want from them. Also name, flag and flair checks out.
2020-01-29 14:06
Yup but they only show good results after 5 months i think and lose to Vitality is embarassing for a #2 team
2020-01-29 14:34
You say it as if Vitality is a tier 2 team or something, they're not that bad and have been competing in top 10 for a while now, they even beat Astralis at ESL One Cologne 2019. In the end every tournament has upsets and you can not expect mousesports to win literally EVERY match, especially if they're up against a team with the best player in the world.
2020-01-29 16:03
Cant change the fact they took too long to show good results I believe that mouz have a good moment but I dont know if this will continue, just like EG
2020-01-29 18:48
We will see, the fact that it took long to show results doesn't really mean anything. Remember how long it took for the Astralis core to show these results or TL? Took them years to get where they are now and the core to forming a consistently good CS team is a core that have worked together for a long time.
2020-01-29 20:58
I like your name
2020-01-29 00:21
every brazilian should have that name xd
2020-01-29 00:43
+1111
2020-01-29 06:47
#83
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Yugoslavia ensaRRR 
shut up you dickpighead
2020-01-29 00:43
why so rude man :((
2020-01-29 00:48
#85
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United States anon1g 
This would be an upgrade for both teams. I love ChrisJ on mouz, but this is an amazing idea.
2020-01-29 00:44
ty men 😎
2020-01-29 00:50
#90
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North America daesoulae 
bad idea
2020-01-29 04:25
#95
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
Most people here try to argue something as complicated as team dynamics and roles in a few sentences which i think its impossible. First off, we have to take in consideration two things, what FaZe needs and what Mouz need, FaZe needs a system that can adapt to multiple situations and doesnt crumble when one thing doesnt go as planned and has to rely a lot on clutches, Mouz needs a stronger second entry that can play off Frozen superstar/clutcher position(which ChrisJ is doing a great job right now, there could be upgrades but i like how he plays it). This move could make sense but you have to take many things in consideration that HAVE togo right, first and foremost, can ChrisJ IGL? sure he has a lot of experience but Chris has always been a good player that fit into many systems but he never been the one to make up these systems, he was always the player that filled the gaps within the system(Like NBK did in french teams), we have never seen him IGL and experience doesn’t always translate into good IGLing, look at Shoxie, NBK and NiKo, very experienced and gifted players but terrible at IGL and even very experienced players that admitted they would be awful IGLs like RPK and F0rest. Now Broky at mouz, I font think thats his place,he has shown he can play passive roles very well and can entry decently but Karrigan is already playing the sacrificial entry fragger in Mouz and broky hasnt shown yet if he can play the second entry role that Mouz needs, what we seen of broky mainly was that he had a very good understanding of how to play the TACO/Coldzera boytoy role, which wouldnt work in mouz since there isnt a coldzera like player there, he has talent and that might make him good enough to learn the second entry role and he can play CT well, but is that really what mouz wants? I think the move has some foundations in it, but if we go deeper in how chris and helvjis play, I think it becomes harder to support since their playstyles dont really overlap and might even be a dentriment toboth teams (FaZe loses the Firepower they revolve around for a maybe IGL and Mouz loses the flex player that fills in the gaps of Karrigans system)
2020-01-29 10:17
Finally someone with a brain here I really see Broky as a solution for Mouz he is a very smart player for his age, he can understand what his team needs and has a good aim, besides Karrigan can be the man who will help Broky reach his best level just like he did with Woxic Now Chrisj at Faze really needs a little more attention He can do the igl and awp role, this literally could go very good, like they are a great competitor for the major or it could go very bad with them fighting each other and ending up dismantling the team Anyway I would like to see this swap, I know that Chrisj is doing well in the mouz but I cant see him winning a major with mouz
2020-01-29 14:59
#123
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
Karrigan could very much improve Broky gameplay, thats Karrigan specialty, hell in the ideal world where this trade happens, i think mouz doesnt lose out that much IF Broky can fill in the same roles as chris does, but even then i wouldnt call it a final solution, it would surely add some firepower but Mouz firepower is the least of their problems when you have one of the faster AWPers in the world, probably the best wing player in the world and a very good Clutcher all 3 with incredible talent, adding even more talent will make them more lethal, but raw firepower isnt what will beat a rigidly structured team like Astralis or Vitality when their gears start turning like at EPICENTER, to beat these Structured teams you need firepower AND smart playing, which ChrisJ can do, he has a lot of experience and a great sense for what plays will coem to him on CT side, but still broky raw aim could compensate. I think that FaZe would lose out, because yes, they need an AWPer and an IGL but it is sad to say that ChrisJ's primary AWPing hasnt been used for more than 2 years, hes a great secondary AWPer but his T side AWPing wasnt that impressive even when he was a main AWPer for mouz, lately he has been way better on rifles, but a weak main AWP could still be servicable when surrounded by individuals like NiKo and Coldzera, the problem becomes another one, or rather too, first problem is that Coldzera will be at a loss of a personal info player, you suggested Rain to get that role, but Rain never played sacrificial roles(i would see Olof better in an info position) and youll be wasting Rain great CT sides, it will be hard for Coldzera to make another dynamic duo with another player from FaZe, but thats an hypotetical. The real and fat problem is that ChrisJ has never IGL'd once in his life, according to Karrigan Ropz is the one doing mid round calls because of his lurker positions and he has never been a decisional player in any Mouz lineup, because that was never his role, he always was a system player that filled in what the team needed, assuming hed be good at IGL just because he has experience isnt something you can do, we saw what happened when Shox thought he was experienced enough to become an IGL out of the blue, again it could come up that Chris is a great IGL but if you are playing for almost 7-8 years and never IGLd, i think its because he himself knows that. If Chris fails, i doubt itll be because of Ego, Chris has always been known as a great teammate and he played with a ton of different perwsonalities, NiKo included, i think that a ChrisJ FaZe lineup will fail because ChrisJ just could not work as IGL and his AWPing too weak. This move could work, but I think that way too many things would have to work out for a gain a bit too little, personally as an IGL/AWPer for FaZe(taking out Olof post-Major) i would choose either CadiaN, a very solid AWPer that has been improving visibly as an IGL in tier 2 play and I would even dare to say that his AWPing is very good for an IGL, his strats arent overly complicated but could work out very well with the kind of firepower FaZe has, or ArT, which is an unconvential IGL, he has good AWP mechanics and has a very unique style of play, if he can utilize Broky as an info machine like he does with VINI and Coldzera as a superstar clutcher with the rest of the team playing very aggressively, i can see it working very well as it could bring back NiKo to his Rambo CS days and make Rain CT sides even more potent, i can definetely see FaZe as a FURIA on steroids, this last choice is really experimental but i think it has basis to work out very well
2020-01-29 17:35
you are absolutely correct I also dont see olof with a great future in the making, honestly I thought he would go to Dignitas this year something prevents him from arriving in a great way again at Faze but honestly I dont see many solutions to this problem in Faze, Fallen would probably be the only player who would raise the level of Faze, you mentioned good names but sincerely Cadin or Art in Faze would be a little strange
2020-01-29 23:35
#117
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United States anon1g 
Great breakdown!
2020-01-29 16:02
gut move
2020-01-29 10:19
#97
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Bulgaria Ramky 
+1 actually a very good idea!
2020-01-29 10:28
So Niko can kick him after 2 months?
2020-01-29 10:40
now Niko is seeing that he cannot be igl i dont think he would do it again
2020-01-29 15:03
name checks out
2020-01-29 13:57
SHAT AP!!
2020-01-29 13:57
how bout, no
2020-01-29 13:59
#7
2020-01-29 15:01
everything checks out
2020-01-29 17:23
By trump elector OmegaLUL
2020-01-29 18:38
mate my name is a meme, trump can suck a dick
2020-01-29 19:34
Why would mouz need firepower? How is Ropz, Woxic and Frozen not enough?
2020-01-29 17:25
name and flair checks out. This is ONE game
2020-01-29 18:41
Yes one game One GRAND final game One game against the one-man-army Zywoo and still lost LUL
2020-01-29 18:50
0/8
2020-01-29 19:40
broky is infected by niko ego. he is doomed and burned land for other teams,
2020-01-29 19:42
Taking Broky for his firepower.... :D
2020-01-29 19:44
whats so funny?
2020-01-29 23:37
Check his stats
2020-01-30 07:58
so? baiting for Niko and Cold ofc he will have low stats
2020-01-30 15:14
#148
Xyp9x | 
Netherlands arTvamp 
My penis had an ERA!!!!!!!!!!!
2020-01-29 23:54
#150
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Czech Republic Xedys 
We all know how firepower with certain mouz players goes...
2020-01-30 08:06
drugs destroyed sunny
2020-02-02 00:24
on of the dumbest idea i ve seen in quite a while
2020-01-30 15:16
No. Just -chrisJ +huNter/MICHU
2020-02-02 02:53
The only upgrade FaZe needs is -olof +s1mple/huNter
2020-02-02 02:58
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