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Iceland bambusbjorn 
its a bad thing, it gives the people hope to believe there is some meaning behind all this, while in reality. there freaking isn't. either u lived ur life or u didn't. ur nothing but a needle in a haystack or a fart blowing in the wind.
2020-02-13 13:53
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yes and its just cringe
2020-02-13 13:55
this is the biggest problem we have in this world currenlty, people caring tooo much what other people believe. let them believe in religion,philosophy or other shit and do ur own thing.
2020-02-13 13:55
#64
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Bulgaria stef0o0o 
one does not "believe" in philosophy, its not a god damn religion
2020-02-14 01:01
#3
Poland DefeN 
-1 Trying to understand why we're here and how our world works is the most intriguing part of our lives imo
2020-02-13 14:01
thats the problem, there isn't any reason. ur born, u die, u feed the worms and they shit u out.
2020-02-13 14:02
true, this is exactly what happens. but life is more than that, right? there's no sequence of sad words that can take out the powerful felling that exists behind our little special insignificant moments serching for meaning is intriguing. but find the meaning is not a necessity, SEARCHING, that's the fun part of philosphy
2020-02-13 15:06
#70
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World breezy0 
That's what you say because you are filled with knowledge right? Just another ignorant being
2020-02-14 13:57
Lolz. Another believer.
2020-02-15 02:06
+1
2020-02-13 15:01
its quite the opposite!!
2020-02-13 13:57
it sure is, op is an ignorant
2020-02-13 14:01
nice name
2020-02-13 15:08
#7
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Japan Fanta_machine 
reddit nihilism sucks even more
2020-02-13 14:02
> "Philosophy is a bad thing" > proceed to a philosophical reasoning about the meaning of life
2020-02-13 14:06
haha true
2020-02-13 14:17
yeah, he clearly doesn't understand what philosophy is.
2020-02-13 14:33
+1
2020-02-13 14:41
#50
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United Kingdom snekky 
+1
2020-02-13 15:58
#61
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World Beard43 
+1
2020-02-14 00:10
we're just energy, the elite knows about this and therefor robs our energy with consumption and consume.
2020-02-13 14:08
consooom
2020-02-13 14:41
They rob our money not our energy
2020-02-13 14:55
In order to survive, human race simplifies down this complex world into something we can actually work with - order, values and meaning.
2020-02-13 14:08
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Russia Jovik! 
It's not even about that. It's just there to help you to get by and find some peace of mind when there are so many things bothering you on the outside. It doesn't have to have certain purpose or answer your questions, if you find it boring or useless, then you certainly have to go to the club instead. Not for you.
2020-02-13 14:09
#12
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France daniel19 
what you say is also philosophy lmao
2020-02-13 14:12
#16
s1mple | 
Russia Sample_ 
+1
2020-02-13 14:17
ahahah exactly
2020-02-14 00:09
"while in reality. there freaking isn't" first you say philosophy is pointless, then you make many philosophical statements. this is very typical and i see it a lot. for example: "metaphysics is dumb speculation, everyone knows the world is just how science sees it". etc sorry this triggers me, its always this pattern. say a discipline is stupid then make assertions that belong to that discipline
2020-02-13 14:20
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Norway FACEIT_LVL_10 
religion is stupid, i believe in rainmonsta
2020-02-13 15:05
Combatting pervasive nihilism is the most important function of philosophy. Meaninglessness is crippling and when it incites a curse of being itself it can create grest tragedy. The fricken columbine kids used nihilism to call humanity a disease that needs to be eradicated. There are ways in which one can find meaning in this temporal and seemingly meaningless world. I'd recommend Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning or Leo Tolstoy's philosiphical writings, they're quite eye-opening on the existence of meaning. If you don't think meaningless and nihilism is a problem you must realize that without meaning and purpose there is no reason to do or not do anything. One might look at existence itself and curse it for its lack of meaning, and wish to eradicate it as many mass killers have. Retarded nihilists sometimes quote Nietzsche on nihilism, but the man drove himself to insanity and death by trying to combat meaninglessness and derive an objective system of values without religion. He understood the problem of nihilism and sought to see its end. Tldr nihilism is retarded and dangerous, and philosophy combats it. Anyone who is self aware enough to think can become nihilistic, and thus philosophy is beneficial.
2020-02-13 14:17
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France daniel19 
+1
2020-02-13 14:18
> you must realize that without meaning and purpose there is no reason to do or not do anything so? your whole post just sounds more like religion than philosophy.
2020-02-13 14:38
There are numerous individuals who have found meaning without religion. It is not a necessity, as proven by Tolstoy and Frankl. I would recommend reading A Confession by Tolstoy, great little book related to this.
2020-02-13 21:57
that wasn't my point. you are making normative statements about the need for meaning
2020-02-14 00:59
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Serbia Wule123 
" Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning" this book is awesome, in Serbia they translate it "Why u didn't kill yourself" :D
2020-02-13 14:40
#33
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Georgia cleve 
Honestly, Nihilism is the only way, you can't achieve real meaning without religion, i think that's just impossible, Nietzche failed to actually combat and beat meaninglessness and i actually argue for antinatalism which means i think people should stop reproducing and make humans and all the life species go extinct.
2020-02-13 15:04
Nietzsche did indeed fail, but others have different outlooks. I stand by the fact that meaning is possible without religion, a higher purpose isn't the only means. Often people find meaning in others and advancement of either technology or society--small actions in any will have a multiplicative effect on the future as everything is built upon previous advancement, be in social or technological. I'm gonna soon sound like a broken record but if you haven't read Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, I'd highly recommend it. The guy's story is an absolutr tragedy and he ends up in a concentration camp, and he goes through how he found meaning under some of the worst suffering imaginable. He talks about finding meaning in suffering, as suffering is ever present in humanity. To my previous nihilistic outlook, such a claim initially sounded absolutely absurd, but the book really changed that for me and I let go of my nihilism. As for antinatalism, I was previously sympathetic to it but honestly I have no sympathy for it any longer. It's too close to the ideology of mass murders for my liking so I shyed away from it.
2020-02-13 22:48
One of the dumbest things humanity has ever typed out, good job. People do horrible for every ideology that humanity has ever thought of, especially religion.
2020-02-13 15:34
While you're right that Nietzsche diagnosed and sought to combat nihilism, he definitely did not try to derive an *objective* system of values. He wanted each person (capable of it) to realise him/herself by continually, subjectively affirming life and recreating values in a process of creative destruction, of transvaluation, staring nihilism dead in the eye without flinching.
2020-02-14 00:18
nihilism is philosophy aswell
2020-02-14 01:10
#68
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World Beard43 
Cogito, ergo sum. Aside from that, nothing is known. To me, philosophy is infinitely interesting but beyond the cogito it's also entirely speculative (I would say fictitious but that would imply that nothing produced by it is true and nobody can know that). In other words, in the barest sense, the meaning of existence is existence. I exist, that's the only thing I know to be fact. Anything beyond that is faith and is arbitrary. I'm not trying to diminish the usefulness of faith either by the way, I'm only saying that I don't believe it to be necessary.
2020-02-14 02:26
Thank you for that philosophical outlook on why philosophy is bad.
2020-02-13 14:18
exactly
2020-02-13 14:19
#21
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Turkey Slapdash 
You don't even know philosophy
2020-02-13 14:36
#22
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Denmark lonnyb 
flag checks out
2020-02-13 14:38
#23
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Ukraine ksay 
i see a philosopher here
2020-02-13 14:38
#28
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Serbia Provizija 
ohhhhh another edgy nihilist kid, i guess its become cool to be nihilist these days
2020-02-13 14:48
You do notice that you just stated something philosphical right?
2020-02-13 14:54
wtf did i just read
2020-02-13 15:02
#35
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Ukraine RunningNAil 
so what
2020-02-13 15:05
serching for meaning is intriguing. but find the meaning is not a necessity, SEARCHING, that's the fun part of philosphy
2020-02-13 15:07
nothing has absolute meaning - therefore you decide what has meaning for you, and that might be viewed as beauty, tragedy or comedy im going to study some philosophy this year wrote to me at the end of the year, and i will tell you my conclusion about it
2020-02-13 15:12
#40
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Serbia Provizija 
if nothing has no meaning then giving meaning to anything also has no meaning
2020-02-13 15:17
that's why i love cs, is full of meaning, life have PURPOSE when the round start: shoot the enemy's heads
2020-02-13 15:38
absolutly - yeah relativly - no, it's a choice then
2020-02-14 13:54
#72
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Serbia Provizija 
only absolut is important, relativity is just something based on emotions
2020-02-14 16:32
lol you don't have access to the absolut, unless you're enlightened with godlike consciousness level so for mortals relativity is the only realm
2020-02-15 01:49
#76
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Serbia Provizija 
yeah but you wrote that nothing has absolut meaning, i guess thats only absoult you can access....
2020-02-15 01:56
that because i am semi - enlightenment or just high IQ idk the more i know and learn the less it does make any sense life and humans beings quite depressing but what can you do
2020-02-15 02:02
#79
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Serbia Provizija 
i guess when you become enlighten you also become egoistic, that two go up together...
2020-02-15 02:31
that has nothing in common as far as my understanding reach, self-realization is about realize the truth, the character you play with it is secondary order you might be selfish you might selfless it's just a play
2020-02-15 15:12
#81
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Serbia Provizija 
yeah but you are not enlighten you are just egoistic...
2020-02-15 15:15
You just stated how you view you world, which is one and the same thing as philosophy. If you say there is nothing out there, then it wont be.
2020-02-13 15:29
I read what you typed and I think you are on the verge of becoming homeless . Ur U UR U! 1st grade education. Don't worry my friend, we might be in a sim. It's the only explanation for us right now. GODS? Nope. Evolution? hmm, fish they have headlights on their head, very odd. Why can't I grow a headlight on my head? If we survive just another 1k years we could make a sim universe and watch it evolve in maybe a year.
2020-02-13 15:36
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Russia ArtyoMM 
0/8
2020-02-13 15:40
Says thinking about life is pointless, then tells us his opinion on life. Come on son, THINK before you start these threads.
2020-02-13 15:41
#47
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World ZMDR 
thats just your philosophy
2020-02-13 15:42
#48
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Greece Graecos 
Nihilism is a philosophy, good job, bro!
2020-02-13 15:46
Meaning comes from minds, they're the ones who ascribe meaning to things. So there can be meaning to life and reality, as long as we ascribe it ourselves. In a way, saying that there's no meaning to anything is already trying to ascribe some meaning, because in order to believe that there's no meaning, you need to be able to evaluate this situation and accept it as true. It's even more meaningful to you if you decide to take actions as a consequence of this worldview (such as, for example, promoting the end of all life), because not only it would derive your worldview, but it would also derive a plan of action, a motivation, an alternative state of the world to reach, aka, something that you think has more value than the current world. If you actually believed that everything was meaningless you wouldn't even try to communicate your worldview to us, in fact you wouldn't even communicate at all, it would be meaningless to you, in fact you would probably already be dead, because you would probably have ignored many things that do have meaning to humans and keep them alive. I don't think any human is capable of actually thinking that there's absolutely no meaning whatsoever, our brains don't function that way, but even if there were some rare specimens who would, they would not live long and they would certainly be nothing like someone creating threads on HLTV trying to convince others that their worldview is the correct one.
2020-02-13 15:57
+1 for the most part I don't however believe that those who ascribe absolutely no meaning to life, or those who mistakenly believe so approach meaning in this way, decisions and actions don't always require meaning. We can lackadaisically make actions and decisions without care, and people get into a limbo state where things just happen. Speaking from experience, it's not a fun time. I do heavily agree with your point that heirachical decisions and determinations of value are evidencing meaning. Calling something meaningless is ascribing some level of importance to it, as it's important enough to recognize it in the first place.
2020-02-13 22:59
"I don't however believe that those who ascribe absolutely no meaning to life, or those who mistakenly believe so approach meaning in this way, decisions and actions don't always require meaning. We can lackadaisically make actions and decisions without care, and people get into a limbo state where things just happen. Speaking from experience, it's not a fun time." I also think that these people would not see it that way from their perspective, but do you, yourself, still consider that they would ascribe some kind of meaning to their reality, even if it's not something that would be enjoyable for them in any way? Or do you share their point of view that they would therefore not ascribe any meaning *whatsoever*? Now if they were only thinking about the positive version of the term "meaning", that is, something to strive for, something that is greater than your self, something that drives your life as a human, then their state of depression would obviously not meet this kind of criteria, I agree. But if they argue that they would ascribe no meaning *whatsoever*, then I think they're overreaching (although from the perspective of depression they might not think so, which I can understand, after all, the positive version of "meaning" is the most important to us humans, so I think it would be easy to determine that there's none at all if we don't find this version of meaning).
2020-02-13 23:26
The consensus among the psychology field is that we really can't function without ANY meaning, so I certainly agree with your assessment. The vast majority of the time, people do ascribe meaning to at least some things even if they claim that no meaning exists. Yes there is an important differentiation in types of meaning, and depression certainly modifies
2020-02-14 00:00
Oh ok, it seems we share similar positions, thanks for the clarification.
2020-02-14 00:07
LOL, nah. try to read tractatus logico philosophicus. ur thoughts‘ll change after that.
2020-02-13 16:37
#55
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Macedonia trashbait 
wow, you are right you must be really smart 100iq do you watch rick and morty?
2020-02-13 22:51
#66
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Germany SL3ID3R 
Even believing that there is nothing more to life is still a philosophy
2020-02-14 01:13
#67
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Netherlands staticNL 
i dont think you understand what philosophy is
2020-02-14 01:15
Philosophy doesn't have any other purpose than questionning the world we live in and that's exactly what you're doing.
2020-02-14 14:26
t. brainlet
2020-02-14 16:33
yeah, and that is a philosophy too called nihilism
2020-02-14 16:41
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