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Evil Geniuses roster Fix
Finland iBait 
The only way EG will ever be top 1 again is with a roster change, and since the teams in NA are typically shit EG should just go European so they can get decent practice. All North Americans are currently Liquid supporters anyway, so I don't see any reason why EG should stay NA since most of the fans there are just glory hunters. The changes I propose are: -Stanislaw Overrated as an IGL and has Hunden like stats. This guy is supposed to be the best IGL in NA? +Aleksib Accomplished IGL that has actually won events and been to a Major final. EG has money so buying him shouldn't be a problem. -Ethan He's a ten in a dozen player with okay aim but not much else. EG can do much better. +Sergej The 13th best player of 2019 is a natural pick to replace the 20th best player. Sergej is also familiar with Aleksib's calling so slotting him in the team should be easy. The full roster: Aleksib (IGL) Sergej (Star Player) CerQ (AWPer) Tarik (Entry Fragger/Hype man) Brehze (Support flasher) If this roster doesn't work, EG is cursed and unfixable.
2020-02-13 20:33
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#1
Finland iBait 
Of cource if possible the ideal roster would be Aleksib, Sergej, Allu, Tarik, Cerq but sadly Allu doesn't get along with Aleksib0b.
2020-02-13 20:36
#11
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Morocco de_dust 
he does, he just wanted SuNny
2020-02-13 20:53
Even if they don't have any real beef I doubt Allu would be okay with someone else calling.
2020-02-13 21:00
-tariK +Zywoo -stanislaw +Aleiksb
2020-02-15 08:39
+1
2020-02-15 08:40
Kicking Brehze 0/8
2020-02-15 15:19
#2
Finland iBait 
+Bump+
2020-02-13 20:39
#3
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Estonia 424hhhh 
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 0/8. fr tho that sucks dong
2020-02-13 20:42
#4
Finland iBait 
Yeah I know, Idk what I was thinking when I left Tarik in the lineup. The ideal team would be Aleksib, Sergej, SuNny, Cerq, and Brehze.
2020-02-13 20:45
#5
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Estonia 424hhhh 
can u cant bait mate. stop it fins had their chance, now ur just a country that has to pray that ENCE does sth.
2020-02-13 20:46
#8
Finland iBait 
I mean your country isn't exactly doing better.
2020-02-13 20:49
#16
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Europe Sam2k 
oooooooooof
2020-02-13 20:59
#34
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Estonia 424hhhh 
i have 1 good boy in top 3 teams, ya dont. /closed
2020-02-13 21:43
open/ I've recently had 5 of the goodest boys in top 2 /closed
2020-02-13 21:45
#37
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Was it recently though? I mean its been a pretty long time. Also not to mention they did have a fluke(ish) run. They had an Avangar esc run. Have a great run in the major, a couple of other tournaments and then just gradually fell off, like in the tournament where liquid 3-0d them they didnt have any proper teams that they had to beat in order to get into that grand final.
2020-02-13 21:46
They've literally been to more Big Event Grand Finals than this Mouz lineup. Comparing Aleksib's ENCE to Avangar is straight up stupid as the only thing they have in common is a second place at a Major. ENCE was the first team in over a year to 2-0 Astralis on LAN and they were the first team to beat their 31-0 LAN Nuke streak. They did both of those things in a Grand Final of a big event.
2020-02-13 21:53
#57
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Estonia 424hhhh 
it was a blast final, no? FUCKING BLAST. with the shitty format.
2020-02-14 13:51
The final was a bo3. It's just as legit as a match from ESL One Cologne or a Major. First team to 2-0 Astralis in over a year and the one to break their Nuke streak. Don't be salty and just accept that Aleksib's ENCE was a historic team.
2020-02-14 14:50
#62
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Estonia 424hhhh 
How the fuck were they historic in any other way than that fluke major run? That blast tournament they just had to do some BO1s that was it. Complexity just shat on vitality and Astralis but got fucked in the ass by SMASH. Are they now a historic team? GTFO.
2020-02-14 14:56
Are you retarded? Their 0-2 against Astralis was obviously in a bo3. Sure, bo1 don't mean shit but that Grand Final was a bo3. When did Complexity end Astralis's Nuke streak? When did Complexity come 2nd in a Major? When did Complexity make 4 Big Event finals? You're biased as fuck and because of that you're ignoring blatant facts.
2020-02-14 17:39
#68
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Estonia 424hhhh 
ENCE had a great run. Nothing too historic though, they WILL go down in history as the team who dropped their IGL and went to tier 999, not the Cinderella story major players. Simply because Cloud9 already made a run like that one but 1 better by actually winning the major.
2020-02-14 17:48
How many 31-0 LAN map win streaks did Cloud9 break?
2020-02-14 19:28
#74
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Estonia 424hhhh 
who fucking cares, its 1 map! Also it was during the Blastralis period, stop being so fucking patriotic, its pathetic.
2020-02-15 06:50
Might wanna open up an encyclopedia and check what being patriotic means
2020-02-15 08:36
#79
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Estonia 424hhhh 
You got my point, just because someone is from ur country DOESNT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A HARDCORE FAN. also u keep mentioning ENCE ending astralis nuke streak, my response would be vIrTuS.PrO ArE a HiStORiC TeAm OnLY bEcAUse ThEy EnDeD NiPs 87-0 StReAk.
2020-02-15 08:40
#81
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Finland Teukkasd 
but virtus pro was historic team wtf men
2020-02-15 08:59
#87
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Estonia 424hhhh 
most people dont know about them for ending NiPs 87-0 streak though, rather VP is a historic team just because it was a polish powerhouse.
2020-02-15 09:24
#88
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Finland KuKkaa 
Stop wasting ur time with pathetic finns.
2020-02-15 09:36
#96
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Estonia 424hhhh 
ok. hyvä päivä
2020-02-15 09:53
#100
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Finland KuKkaa 
tänan ja vabandan Right?
2020-02-15 11:18
#102
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Estonia 424hhhh 
gud enuf :-)
2020-02-15 11:44
Bruh that was just the same org, not the same team.
2020-02-15 15:43
#130
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Yes. BUT nobody remembers that team for beating that 87-0 streak, thats my point! People remember the insane streak, they dont remember who broke it (atleast from my experience when asking from people)
2020-02-15 15:44
omg both retardeds
2020-02-14 14:58
Name checks out
2020-02-14 17:39
#69
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Roses are red violets are violet Neil de Grasse Tyson should sometimes stay quiet.
2020-02-14 17:49
#110
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Europe Niko0 
Well we had at best times over 15 players in top 30. You're country has ever had one. But maybe they should come to play in Finland for 5e/h like you are used to?
2020-02-15 15:29
#112
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Wdym by 5e/h? Lmao. seems like i tilted alot of fins with that remark.
2020-02-15 15:30
#113
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Europe Niko0 
Because usually people from your country come to do our shitworks what anyone else wouldnt do for 5e/h
2020-02-15 15:31
#116
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Estonia 424hhhh 
What does that have to do with top 3 in CS? You seem to have got really butthurt by my remark there. Were talking about the present btw. not the past mate.
2020-02-15 15:33
#117
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Europe Niko0 
Present or not, mouz isnt eestiteam. Its international, and also as fluke as Finland. So no one cars
2020-02-15 15:37
#120
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Estonia 424hhhh 
no shit they arent an estonian team lmao. never said that. keep on hoping that aleksi will do sth great to get atleast 1 good fin in the scene. or just respond to me about the past.
2020-02-15 15:39
#125
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Europe Niko0 
AleksiB is overrated. Ence is fucked. Only real hope for finnish scene is havu rn
2020-02-15 15:40
#126
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Estonia 424hhhh 
well than mate, youre truly fucked.
2020-02-15 15:40
5e/h = 5 evenings per hour?
2020-02-15 15:37
#119
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Europe Niko0 
It doesnt take much of brain capacity to understand im talking about euros
2020-02-15 15:38
#122
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Ya i remember i went to work in finland to earn evenings, worked for 40 hrs a week and got 200 evenings per week!
2020-02-15 15:40
N o i c e :)
2020-02-15 15:41
#6
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United States D0xx 
-tarik -stan +MarkE +Tabsen MarkE - Support Tabsen - IGL CerQ - AWP Brehze - Entry Ethan - Rifler
2020-02-13 20:47
#9
Finland iBait 
Sergej > MarkE Aleksib IGLing > TabseN IGLing
2020-02-13 20:51
#12
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United States D0xx 
both cheaper aleksi already rejected NA once ENCE wont sell sergej for anything
2020-02-13 20:54
The team wouldn't be in NA though, with the core of Aleksib, Sergej and Cerq they would move to EU and practice against better teams & not be jetlagged in every EU event. ENCE can't just keep Sergej in prison, no matter his contract EG can just whip out that investor money and buy him out.
2020-02-13 20:58
#56
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United States D0xx 
i just dont agree
2020-02-14 02:26
#128
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Estonia 424hhhh 
ENCE can ask for 10mil+ for sergej, wouldnt be worth it. thats why navi got perfecto, forze and the other CIS teams were asking for ridicilous amounts.
2020-02-15 15:41
ForZe is an outlier. Russia and Brazil have such backwards laws that orgs can ask whatever amount of money they want. In a civilized country the buyout is tied to the player's salary, so ENCE can't just go and demand for 10 million.
2020-02-15 16:04
#133
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Estonia 424hhhh 
Didnt know about that, makes sense. He would still cost a decent chunk of money AND it also depends on if he would be willing to move out of Finland (maybe) depends ofc.
2020-02-15 16:08
I think Rush mentioned that Cloud9 asked for "some Ence players" to join the team and the players they asked for were interested. Of course it didn't end up happening but it would still seem like Sergej is somewhat open to moving.
2020-02-15 16:22
#7
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Norway MD! 
0/8 +1 on NA dogs being gloryhunters, I remember when I was the only NRG flair in here
2020-02-13 20:51
Yes mens
2020-02-13 20:52
#13
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Finland Homeless775 
Add 2 finnish players, flag checks out, expected from a finn
2020-02-13 20:56
Also expected from a Fin.
2020-02-13 20:58
+1
2020-02-13 21:00
With a better team led by Aleksib, Cerq would have a chance to compete for the title of best player in the world.
2020-02-13 21:10
I'm not saying Aleksib is a bad igl or player bro, I respect the dude, he has achieved a lot in his career and getting Aleksib and removing Stanislaw is a good move, he is a better fragger as well not only igl however, I'm not sure about the Ethan change. I think Ethan has potential and is early to get him out.
2020-02-13 21:17
Fair play.
2020-02-13 21:21
And also, Aleksib just got into a new team so the change does not have the potential to happen in the next few months even if interested.
2020-02-13 21:18
+1
2020-02-13 21:38
#19
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Finland Hoitelia 
Ez top 3 for sure
2020-02-13 21:02
Yea for sure, definitely top 1 material.
2020-02-13 21:03
#24
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
okay thats just retarded
2020-02-13 21:21
Everything is retarded if you look at it in a certain way
2020-02-13 21:23
#29
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
maybe if your the everything yeah
2020-02-13 21:24
But only when you look at it in a certain way
2020-02-13 21:25
reported for baiting
2020-02-13 21:21
Your name is the bigger bait.
2020-02-13 21:23
#28
2020-02-13 21:24
But if my name is a bait, does that mean I'm actually not baiting? Though baiting like that would align with my name and make me a baiter.
2020-02-13 21:26
-1
2020-02-13 21:45
Why tho(((
2020-02-13 21:54
You know that the thread is trash and bait if the author answers to every comment
2020-02-13 21:55
You know the thread is trash when you show up and comment.
2020-02-13 21:57
not even a good bait
2020-02-13 21:57
0/8
2020-02-13 21:57
#44
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Poland JKG 
"Aleksib Accomplished IGL" LMAO Most overrated IGL of all time and I don't even know why (probably only cuz he got kicked)
2020-02-13 21:58
Nie jedz tego baita ułomie
2020-02-13 22:01
#46
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Poland JKG 
But it's not the first time I see someone talking about how great IGL aleksi is... I just want to know why people overrate him so much also reported for not using english
2020-02-13 22:02
People rate him highly because ENCE went to shit right after kicking him. We can't really know whether he's rated accurately before he has had enough time with his new team.
2020-02-13 22:04
He took 4 bots to a Major Grand Final
2020-02-13 22:02
#49
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Poland JKG 
and what ? That makes him Accomplished IGL ? so in your opinion trash IGLs like Jame, Steel (i believe he was IGLing in Immortals but I am not 100% sure) are also "great Accomplished IGLs"?
2020-02-13 22:04
It's not just that, Aleksib's ENCE was a solid top 3 team with some pretty bad players. They broke Astralis's Nuke streak & beat them 2-0 in a final. Now just look at where ENCE is without Aleksib.
2020-02-13 22:06
#51
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Poland JKG 
ENCE was a fluke and they would've play like trash with aleksi as well But it wasnt a good decision to -aleksi (should've -aerial) tho And aleksi just proves in OG that he can't do shit with them having better players than in ENCE I am confident that OG will not get better with time and NBK will finally take over IGLing kicking aleksi out of the team
2020-02-13 22:11
A fluke that made more big event top 4's than this current Mousesports team? Yeah sure. Aleksi has literally been in OG for less than two months and they're already making playoffs at every LAN they go. His teammates have also had nothing but good things to say.
2020-02-13 22:15
#82
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Belgium mainak90 
One of the bigger reasons that people don't seem to talk about is the aug nerf, upon which many teams like ence and furia fell off a bit. Ofcourse ence made a lot big event finals, but they made it on a span of 2018-2019 which is 2 years, also everybody knows that ence's rise to the top actually started(leaving the major run which was a great run tbh) when astralis started to fall off and liquid did not have the same form that made them win all these events. Till date ence made 6 finals amogst which starseries and cac are considered t2/3. So they made in total 4 big event finals. In IEM chicago the teams they beat to get to the finals are renegades, heroic, mibr before getting literally smashed by liquid on the finals, should that run actually count? Lets consider dreamhack, they beat isurus, g2, furia and faze to get to the finals, not really t1 competiton(cant say anything if you think the faze back then was t1) in a t1 event all in all most of the finals they made apart from the major and blast, they didn't really face any t1 competiton on their way to the finals and when they did which was in the finals, they faltered. Still alexib was the igl or the gel factor that was holding this roster together having two great players in sergej and allu. I think ence should do sergej a favour and let him go, there are lots of great rosters that can benefit from sergej and get some trophy home.
2020-02-15 09:12
You can only beat who you're playing. Most of the finals were during the Liquid Summer so it's not like anyone else would have stood a chance.
2020-02-15 10:14
#99
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Belgium mainak90 
Indeed, but looking at the teams liquid beat to get to finals and the ones ence beat shows a stark difference in opponent skills, i mean liquid beat vitality to go to finals, ence beat mibr. Its not a balanced competition like in epl where mouz beat astralis and fnatic beat liquid. But then again, the general levels of teams at that time was kind of slumping all over the top 10, so yeah i agree, nobody else could have logically won given the individual level of the liquid players at that time
2020-02-15 10:43
#83
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Finland Jolkkoswag 
yeah hes hunde 2.0 shit in game and people praise him like a lord cause he soo good igl bruh wtf.,,,
2020-02-15 09:16
#53
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United States tenki_cs 
Why -Ethan and not -tarik? smh my head this team needs firepower -AleksiB +sunny
2020-02-13 22:17
For more firepower I'd suggest -Cerq +MSL
2020-02-13 22:42
#54
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China Rynaki 
Name checks out
2020-02-13 22:21
no one wants to play with basement dweller mong finns so nope
2020-02-14 14:54
Wtf is hype man
2020-02-14 14:55
Name checks out
2020-02-14 14:55
lmao thought this was meant to be a roster fix? aleksib very standard player sergej overrated extremely average kid I also see you mentioned allu in the comments this guy is way past it - finns proved with ence they are just as shit as uk quality cs stop the bait please
2020-02-14 14:57
#84
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Finland Jolkkoswag 
sergej aint overrated hes actually best player on ence atm
2020-02-15 09:17
i am on board with this. +1 for good analysis
2020-02-14 14:57
They need more firepower, not aleksib -aleksib +sunny Will fit better with their chemistry aswell
2020-02-14 17:50
This is now more relevant than ever.
2020-02-15 00:37
Tarik ("Hype man") Brehze ("Support flasher") 1/8 but i had a good laugh
2020-02-15 00:40
Thanks mens, you made my day)))
2020-02-15 09:44
Getting Alexib will never work, 1st of all... > EG and OG has history.... OG might go bankrupt but they will never ever let EG take any of their players... for reference check : EG OG dota 2 ti8 incidents. its just too much personal for OG. >Also OG as an organization treats their players like family, i dont think Alexib will think of leaving a huge salary and a good organization for just being in EG ..........but i really like your idea of -Ethan. i dont think Ethan is finding his place in the team.... or its stanis's incapability to properly use him to his potential... in either way Ethan is just being wasted in this roster....
2020-02-15 07:18
#80
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Finland petemeister 
"Brehze (Support flasher)" Okay man, that was pretty good.
2020-02-15 08:43
Thanks man, I thought so too. Since Aleksib is going to be the main flasher it only makes sense for Brehze to be the support flasher. Who knows, Brehze is so young that maybe one day he could even be the main flasher of a team!
2020-02-15 09:46
stopped reading at -ethan +sergej hahahahhaha
2020-02-15 09:17
Shithan can go fish in ice hole
2020-02-15 09:41
#86
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Finland H0rnPub 
breheze to liquid stewie and rest of jetlaggeniuses to Clown9
2020-02-15 09:21
+1, everybody wins.
2020-02-15 09:56
#89
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Russia nobody_cars 
Disband?
2020-02-15 09:37
+Brain, Cerq and Tarik need to fix their decision making
2020-02-15 09:38
I'm biased but I'm also right.
2020-02-15 09:52
And nickname checks out too
2020-02-15 12:18
wtf are you smoking
2020-02-15 11:20
Facts
2020-02-15 15:39
Not getting baited by someone named iBait.
2020-02-15 20:05
Good call.
2020-02-15 21:09
#103
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Lithuania Aerkun 
I agree generally speaking, but why keep Tarik over Ethan? Also brehze should be a star player not a support player.
2020-02-15 11:46
Tarik is good at yelling and Brehze shouldn't be the star in a team that has Sergej.
2020-02-15 15:15
#109
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Lithuania Aerkun 
Why not make them both star players? Also Brehze is better than Sergej, so saying Brehze shouldn't be a star if you have Sergej doesn't make any sense.
2020-02-15 15:24
+1
2020-02-15 15:33
Tarik is garbage
2020-02-15 11:46
Using Brehze the best fragger as a support LUL good one 0/8
2020-02-15 15:18
Flag checks out
2020-02-15 15:30
#114
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Finland tiktoklover 
this comes from an ence fan xDDD
2020-02-15 15:32
Name checks out
2020-02-15 15:39
#124
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Lithuania Martis 
-Stanislaw Overrated as an IGL and has Hunden like stats. This guy is supposed to be the best IGL in NA? +Aleksib Accomplished IGL that has actually won events and been to a Major final. EG has money so buying him shouldn't be a problem. How is Alexi more accomplished than stan?
2020-02-15 15:40
Aleksi has done way more with way less and made more grand finals than Stanislaw.
2020-02-15 16:06
#134
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Finland 7ones 
Lol. Why would EG downgrade the sharpness of their communication by bringing in non native english speaker??
2020-02-15 16:11
TIL Cerq is a native English speaker.
2020-02-15 21:04
Evil genius is a terrible team and they should just uninstall the game
2020-02-15 18:20
I agree.
2020-02-16 18:22
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