I'm pretty sure gameref is just as easy as vac to bypass
Yeah, what to say. Customer made cheats cost between 10 and 70 k If you believe what coders are telling at defcon for example. That's a business itself with a lot of money involved. Also: imagine the image damage of valve and hosts If it came out that some pros have been cheating... We'll never know but I believe it's part of the scene
u cant cehat at back sekured serbers
my theory is that in 2k14 when a private hack was leaked (smn kqly etc.) to valve, valve realised that they will never achieve safety in their technical outdated engine.
from there on, there are 2 possibilities:
1) valve gave this information to the tournament organisers and they all together agreed that they continue like that, because they are all dead within a few weeks if it becomes public. keep the amout of viewers up, get the easy cash from crazy investors, like Tour de France. Everyone was happy before top drivers got busted, money was fine, the whole world was watching when the doped guys had their duels in late 90s.
2) valve didnt share the informations and they give lists and anti cheat advices/technics to organzisers, knowing that they wont catch anybody
I think it`s 1).
I mean EVERY market, EVERY serious, professional competition has a neutral, moral 3. PARTY instance without conflicts of interest, that controles the competition and takes anti cheat actions.
CSGO hasnt. Why? It`s a multi million bizz and all we have is that valve and organizers say "everything fair in my competition! come watch here! come trade skins!"
im pretty sure that you cant cheat on vac secured servers
How the fuck you are going to cheat on a lan event if there are admins looking behind their shoulder direct to the players screen
As long as pro csgo makes so much money for organizers etc they couldnt give a shit. A busted tier 1 player would damage the scene so they would rather let them cheat as long as the moneyflow continues sadly
ezfrags get detected every 2 months tho
Finally a sensible cheating thread. People are naive if they think people doesn’t cheat at big lans. The fact that players still get to bring their own mice/keyboards (you can easily install cheating software after the TO has had their check) is ridiculous. Your suggestion is great, I would love for a TO to finally take cheating serious.
cheating on lan would only be able to use aimlock or smth like that and thats just to improve ur aim and get a tiny bit of knowledge where a guy is so i think the risk is simply to big for the payout since at all t1 events a guy is behind the team seeing their screens etc but early on people couldve cheated
Back in early 2000 I lived near the gaming house of a CS tier 1 team and Myself I used to attend regional qualify for CPL, eswc, wcg. So I was never a pro player but I was well know in the community and very often I was invited to this tier 1 team gaming house to scrim with them so they had someone to pratice with.
Okay, why Im saying that? Im pretty sure 99% of users here NEVER played against a tier 1 team... okay boomer whats your point ? Well when you play against them it feels they are cheating but they are not, they are just THAT good... those players would stick in the gaming house for 12 hours per day during the week, on friday to sunday they used to play nights in a row sleeping like from 6:00 to 12:00, so OF COURSE they get that good.
Okay now I dont know how things are handled in events nowadays but I know from a collegue of mine that on League of Legends, they have the equipment sealed brand new and the player has to use that mouse/kb until the end of the event.
Anyway, I dont believe they cheat in lan
you cant cheat on vac secured servers
look what technologies we have, saying its not poissible to cheat on lan ios dumb asf
i mean its already a problem that many ppl use performance enhancing stimulants at this events. so probably also cheating.
They will never ban a tier1 player from a top team. It will kill the image of pro cs. Instead a couple times a year they ban a couple tier 3 player so they can say LoOkAnTiChEaTwOrKs.
Interessting posts in this thread. I cannot really tell if hardware based AC is already developed enough to use it in competitions. But what I don't get:
Why don't they just provide the gear (Mouse, Keyboard) for the players?? I mean this is not a financial problem at all and it's also not difficult to implement. This would definitely be an easy possibility to prevent cheating.
"Game:ref is built on the open-source Arduino platform"
they are playing on vac secure servers
Subroza and kjaerbye still playing so...
I think they don't care anymore
The day we have working anticheat is the day this game will blow up so much that there will be stadiums filled with ppl watching the game live :)
There is no public cheats that works on esea? I just visited ezfrags site and their private cheats costs 10 usd not 50+? And its not even private and its just a copy paste cheat. Vac is shit tho, server sided acs never good
I heard that Kaspersky Lab makes its own anti-cheat. I think they can make a good product.
I think, crowd cheating is enough. So LAN is trash. Real pros play good in online like AMKtares
We all know you cant cheat on VAC secured servers
just let TOs provide gear for each player - which is only used and given out in matches.
mouse and keyboard maybe around 150$ per player, 750$ per team - no problem for big events with 250k$+ prize pool
fuck players who use outdated gear or if they insist on it, let them provide gear to TOs which will be checked and only handed out for the officials
match pcs without any internet access - problem solved
All competitive FPS games have tons of cheaters it isn't shocking.
why dont they just scan computers likes of forsaken ez catch