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TRUMP vs BERNIE
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Europe Obi^Wan__Kenobi 
Whos got the best ideas and why? Trump isnt a white supremacist just like Bernie isnt a socialist
2020-02-18 02:45
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Is this even a question?
2020-02-18 02:45
Just discussion
2020-02-18 02:47
+1 I agree Trump all the way, best most influential yet controversial leader since Kennedy and he got his brains blown out. its logic and reason VS pop culture and stupidity. but i wouldnt mind a bit of socialism without the libtard moral values or lack of
2020-02-18 03:00
"but i wouldnt mind a bit of socialism without the libtard moral values or lack of" Y i k e s
2020-02-18 03:12
#85
koosta | 
United States yghj 
obi big brained and based
2020-02-18 21:33
#248
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Canada SparklMastr 
+1
2020-02-20 00:17
Dude what are you talking about. Bernie is a SELF PROCLAIMED Socialist. He had his honeymoon with the Soviet Union leaders. He partied with Castro and Chavez. If anything he is a Communist that is too afraid to admit it. He is also a complete hypocrite. A multi millionaire with 3 houses. He actively campaigned against millionaires until he became one.....and now campaigns against billionaires.
2020-02-21 02:09
Socialist meaning to Americans =/= Socialism I dont care if he had gay butt sex with Castro and Chavez. Again, hes policy is on his website, and they arent radical at all, quite normal in the West outside of the US. Dismissing him as a communist is ignorance and idiocracy, just like calling Trump a Nazi
2020-02-21 03:25
#310
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North America 007DBR9 
+1
2020-02-21 23:29
#332
nEGRo | 
France frightn 
+111111
2020-02-28 05:36
Back when he campaigned vs millionaires, there were no billionaires you retard :D Why aint Trump speaking against Soviet Union? Is he a communist?
2020-02-21 14:40
There have been billionaires since 1916 small brain. Bernie campaigned against millionaires in 2016.....100 years after the first billionaire. Nice try Commie Bernie Brah.
2020-02-26 14:46
And what happened to him you retard? His company was split up and he got rekt. Same should be done to current megacorps too and billionaires taxed 90% aswell.
2020-02-26 14:53
So what you are saying is tax technology out of existence? Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Uber, Facebook would all fall or come under such heavy government regulations that you wouldn't be allowed to spew your toxic waste onto forums.
2020-02-28 04:05
Lol. Slave defendung his oppressors.
2020-02-28 12:15
+1
2020-02-18 04:55
" its logic and reason" paired with "Trump" in a sentence isnt a logical fallacy. My favorite example: Trump claimed the wheel is older than walls :D I also remember the Trumpsupporters here on HLTV that then defended that LMAO Thats some flat earth-level stupidity. Guess its more like flat earth vs pop culture.
2020-02-19 15:07
HIS NAME, JIM, IT'S IN HIS FUCKING NAME.
2020-02-19 16:41
it would benefit your credibility and "arguments" if you didn't type emotional mumbo jumbo that doesn't argue anything at all.
2020-02-19 18:37
How exactly is the question if the wheel or walls are older an emotion?
2020-02-20 03:21
Because that statement is irrelevant to anything. You are so emotionally triggered that you will take something non-relevant and try make it seem like it's important.
2020-02-21 02:22
Giving an example of how unreasonable and unlogical some of the things that Trump says are is an emotionally triggered response? Thats new for me
2020-02-21 02:51
*illogical *the things that Trump says are *-is* and emotionally triggered response?* See? You sound as dumb as the statement you are making. You make up fake words and use "ILLOGICAL" grammar. Stop being such a triggered fascist. Trump and all of us are still human. At least he doesn't have dementia like his primary opponent that is Bernie does.
2020-02-28 04:10
You're throwing around insults and attacking his grammar instead of the points he's making. We could also do this discussing in German and berate you for your grammar mistakes.
2020-02-28 04:22
Couldnt have said it any better, thanks :D Writing unlogical is actually because Im german I guess, because here it it "logisch" and "unlogisch" and applied that to english aswell. Cheers!
2020-02-28 05:00
The hypocrisy here is clear from your original "wheels and walls" hypothesis. Thank you both for showing your ignorance
2020-02-28 06:03
Could you please point out what exactly the hypocrisy is here?
2020-02-28 13:04
#293
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Canada zizzle21 
the last line is what the world really needs, big brain.
2020-02-21 02:20
trump 2020 for sure
2020-02-18 04:10
BERNIE 2020
2020-02-18 11:53
Nah trump ez win pogchamp
2020-02-18 22:03
feminism brains checks out, Trump all the way!
2020-02-19 09:12
What the fuck again Jutix?
2020-02-19 11:52
wtf reindeer. Thought you are good person, but then you get exposed and it checks out that you are not #teamtrump i hate sanders and other democrat clowns, trump is the thing. trump all the way #feminismcryisfree
2020-02-19 12:42
Go to school and stop selling Clash Royale accounts
2020-02-19 18:18
Wtf, where did you get this info
2020-02-20 08:28
Is it true?
2020-02-20 10:56
it is possible situation
2020-02-20 12:13
Jodel
2020-02-20 14:05
oh fuck..
2020-02-20 17:23
XDDDDDD
2020-02-20 17:42
#2
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
depends on what your priorities are
2020-02-18 02:46
+1000. OMG this was the most wise, simple sentence I have read on HLTV politics.
2020-02-19 03:51
But one candidate proposes good priorities that he can and has accomplished. The other proposes destructive priorities that he will never accomplish.
2020-02-20 00:00
#4
HUNDEN | 
Germany Alright1 
lol
2020-02-18 02:49
#5
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United States Magma_44 
bernie retarded trump 2020
2020-02-18 02:50
#10
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France OtelloO 
What's trump plan for 2020? Everywhere people talk about him but I barely heard about a programme or ideas. What is he going to propose?
2020-02-18 02:57
#21
Black | 
United States girls 
his plan is to KEEP AMERICA GREAT! USA! USA! USA!
2020-02-18 03:10
#66
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
Aua
2020-02-18 05:10
usa
2020-02-18 21:28
#91
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
hard to differentiat
2020-02-18 21:48
#22
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
let's be honest he had no real plans going into 2016 and stuff still got done so
2020-02-18 03:10
#183
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
Probably the least effective president in the last 2 decades. Got fuck all done and just lied to the rural americans that he would help their industry. Not to mention the disastrous tariffs and the tax cuts which helped disproportionately wealthy people
2020-02-19 16:43
#191
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
this is severely misinformed
2020-02-19 17:11
#225
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
+1
2020-02-19 22:35
Ok, tarrifs helped establish trade deal with China. You are also objectively wrong that taxes disproportionately helped the rich. They did cut taxes for the rich, along with everyone else. The effect of the taxes, however DISPROPORTIONATELY helped the middle class. Any economist, liberal or conservative will tell you this.
2020-02-20 00:02
#24
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Canada Herodionus 
US politics are no longer about ideas, it's just "vote for me because I'm x person is bad"
2020-02-18 03:11
#36
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France OtelloO 
That's real sad. How such a once great nation became so anti-intellectual
2020-02-18 03:27
#67
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
Non of democrats say that and they make clear that saying trump is bad doesn’t help it.
2020-02-18 05:12
eh thats true though😂
2020-02-21 23:06
#83
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
implying Bernie has any plan for 2020 xD
2020-02-18 21:29
#99
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France OtelloO 
I didn't imply anything, and actually I don't know anything about Bernie's program either.
2020-02-18 22:26
#122
s0m | 
United States Festive_ 
He has several. Check his website
2020-02-19 01:13
campaign promises are not plans 👌😎
2020-02-19 08:05
-1
2020-02-18 02:57
-1
2020-02-18 04:15
#55
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United States Magma_44 
name checks out
2020-02-18 04:35
Trump has largely done what he said he was gonna do. I'm not convinced the Bernie can, especially given his age. I'd probably go Trump.
2020-02-18 02:52
#20
United States hdz` 
bernie is 78, biden is 77, trump is 73. i don't see the age argument. they are all old AF and prolly going to die from cardiac issues within the next 10 years
2020-02-18 03:10
#27
Black | 
United States girls 
trump is fat which is why we identify with him nobody wants some senile old bald guy as president
2020-02-18 03:12
so simply said: rather a president with fake hair&skincolor than a president without hair
2020-02-19 12:06
#30
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
pretty weird how so many of america's politicians are like 65-80
2020-02-18 03:15
#31
United States hdz` 
too many boomers
2020-02-18 03:17
#32
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
+1
2020-02-18 03:18
It wont last the majority of boomers will be dead within 10 years.
2020-02-18 03:23
#35
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
can't wait
2020-02-18 03:26
#123
s0m | 
United States Festive_ 
It’s bc it takes a lot of money to run for office which requires powerful friends or persona, fortune
2020-02-19 01:14
but bernie look like 10000 years old
2020-02-21 23:08
Trump did literally nothing he promised to do. There is no wall. There are more immigrants than ever. He didn't ban Moslem immigrants. Drugs are still killing our people by the tens of thousands. We still have abortion everywhere. Gun rights are being infringed even in Virginia, where the NRA used to be headquartered, in what was once a very conservative state. He did not normalize relations with Russia. He did not end the war in Syria. He did not end the war in Afghanistan. He did not end the war in Yemen. He did not end the war in Libya. He has only caused more chaos and bloodshed around the world. He did not make Americans richer, only Israel. Trump is the great betrayer and, biblically speaking, he may well be the herald of the anti-Christ.
2020-02-19 10:00
He didn't say he was going to ban Muslims lmao, he did that executive order, ages ago, banning muslims from certain countries, temporarily. He never ran on a platform of jof ending drug abuse, as far as I know anyways. Abortion has been a contentious issue for two decades, at least, did you really think he was going to be the one to end the debate once and for all? It's not the federal government's job in this case, to legislate abortion rights IMO. The gun thing is a states thing. It's not the president's job to make it so guns are 100% legal everywhere. The US isn't involved in Libya, not anymore, what he said is that he was going to get us out of Syria, and Afghanistan. He's currently in the process of doing exactly that. American-Russian Relations are far better then they were 10 years ago. The US is not involved in Yemen. LOL what is this anti-christ business? I was taking this seriously until I saw this, but ya got me, so 6/8
2020-02-19 15:02
I supported Trump big time in 2016 but what has he actually done? Nothing good for America. He only pumped the stock market up. The top 1% own over 80% of all stocks. The top 10% own over 90% of all stocks. So basically he made the top 10% richer and did nothing for everyone else. He has completely betrayed his campaign promises and has done nothing for the bottom 90% of Americans at all.
2020-02-19 22:26
nothing>Increased tax
2020-02-20 00:12
Trump claimed he has been tougher on Russia than anyone. The relationship between Putin and Trump is good. But not between US and Russia right? And the wall was his main thing right?
2020-02-28 04:33
Trump loves God who is a man so trump gay?
2020-02-18 02:52
#8
Keiti | 
Japan Jotaro 
+1
2020-02-18 02:53
#211
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Dogehino 
+1 Couldn’t of said it better myself
2020-02-19 22:02
If u love ur dad doesn't mean u r going to fuck him. Wrong arg mens ))
2020-02-20 07:55
Sorry idk what you're talking about you must be gay?
2020-02-20 22:44
TRUMP2020 KAG2020
2020-02-18 02:54
I cant get over the fact how bad "KAG2020" sounds. KEK2020!
2020-02-19 15:14
Bernie ofc, although Bloomberg is probably more in a position to get things done (Bernie still doesn’t know how much his shit is gonna cost)
2020-02-18 03:00
#26
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Canada Herodionus 
Bloomberg is literally what they're accusing trump to be, a billionaire who wants to buy the election, except Bloomberg is actually doing it
2020-02-18 03:12
+1 lmfao hes poised to spend $1 billion dollars on his campaigns advertisement (how else u think his ads are everywhere on youtube). hes the textbook definition of someone who buys his way into the election
2020-02-18 05:17
He literally donated 300k to the DNC ironically right before they changed debate rules so he could participate
2020-02-19 12:48
libtard gtfo
2020-02-18 04:10
Bernie can barely hold on to a mic on his own stage, standing there like a sorry old man. You think it's wise he's going to be the one who has to deal with people like Putin and Xi?
2020-02-19 16:49
People act like he won’t have an administration to help him do things. I mean trump had 0 experience going into his presidency so the same could have been said for him. Invalid argument
2020-02-19 18:17
It's really not though, Image is a large part of diplomacy. You don't look at Macron the same way you look at Trudeau, you don't look at Merkel the same way you look at Erdogan. The same way you don't look at Trump vs the way you look at Bernie: One, a bully, a macho, patriotic type of person, the other feels weak and frail, is contested at his own rallies, recently had a heart-attack. It's not an argument my dear dear friend, it's statement of fact. Just because you don't want to view it that way, doesn't make it any less true: Character/Charisma matters for a president.
2020-02-19 20:06
I respect your opinion, but I'm still voting for Bernie. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
2020-02-20 00:21
#14
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United States PsychoLogical 
both retarded. Bernie would still lose to Trump unfortunately however. 2024 will be good riddance to him. Tho now there’s potentially Trumpy Jr or Ivanka Trump going for it in 2024.
2020-02-18 03:03
Bernie has a really good chance against Trump though lol Crooked Hillary won the popular vote against Trump even though she suppressed the Democratic base by being a corrupt shill. Bernie will cause a high voter turnout, and young voters will actually go out to vote for him (as they are doing in the primary). He appeals to Independents as well, because independents are sick of the 2 corrupt political parties and want things to change. Bernie is actually genuine and wants to end corruption, end wars, fight climate change, get free healthcare and college like every other developed country in the world. That appeals to the American people as long as they are strong independent thinkers and not the many which are brainwashed by the MSM.
2020-02-18 03:08
#19
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
+1
2020-02-18 03:10
#38
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United States Melanin807 
+1
2020-02-18 03:35
#41
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United States PsychoLogical 
I think you’d be surprised by the reality of it.
2020-02-18 03:48
Can you please use arguments like I have? If you have an actual position but can't defend it with logic or reason at all then maybe you should consider thinking and researching more about it
2020-02-18 03:57
#73
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United States flyflit 
Neolibs are incapable of being logical or using reason. Everything you said was spot on.
2020-02-18 07:07
#97
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United States AproximateCS 
+1
2020-02-18 22:09
That's a quite generalizing comment. Let's not make ad homs
2020-02-28 04:38
kennedy was a liberal, bill clinton is a liberal, obama is a liberal, democrats are the party of liberals like 70 years. Nothing Neo about their policies that stability and incremental change are the Tao of making life better for everyone. The only thing Neo are these absurd Identity politics being pushed by 'progressives' to counter far-right identity politics. This tribal bullshit is the same in the trump/tea-party and AOC progressives, just different about who is superior and deserving of all the money and benefits of upheaval. Literally the same fucking thing being said, except which gender\race\identity is the benefactor. Lazy scum bags all of em if you ask me. stability is harder work and these fuckwits dont want any of that.
2020-02-28 04:52
#212
SANJI | 
Luxembourg kng_rdl 
just ignore that clueless centrist, have never seen any valid arguments from him
2020-02-19 22:02
#52
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United States theory^ 
retarded if u think trump has it in the bag already
2020-02-18 04:15
#144
shox | 
France Zyw0o1v9 
I've never agreed to someone more on hltv
2020-02-19 05:01
+1 Fuck, even I as a person living in a developing country understand this. I was about to get insane from all the posts claiming trump all the way with stupid reasoning (yeah, it's HLTV after all), happy to see someone reasonable.
2020-02-19 12:03
Funny, you think you can just give everyone free healthcare one day and the next everything is loveydovey? For America to switch to that system, it'd take easily 10 years to make all the bureaucractic changes, losing hundreds of thousands of jobs in the process. Switching from Privatized to Goverment owned is going to be a hilarious undertaking I don't think even is possible. The entire world was building cars while USA was building a boat, now they see everyone driving around in their car, they wanna throw wheels under the boat, like bruh, nah, you too far in to suddenly change course, it'd destroy you. ...Unless you want to build up everything from the ground again..
2020-02-19 16:55
Why would it take 10 years? Why will we lose "hundreds of thousands of jobs"? Why is it impossible? You don't make sense here. We already have Medicare, which guarantees healthcare to everyone age 65 or higher. Expanding it and removing the for profit middleman (health insurance companies) certainly isn't impossible. Also, your boat and car analogy isn't relevant at all. It's not like that at all. I don't see how changing to a government owned system instead of privatized would "destroy us". Please explain your positions instead of just saying things.
2020-02-19 17:32
It really is though, America has run on a certain system for dozens of years now, while the rest of the Western world generally adapted a different system. You can't just flip a switch and turn everything around. Your entire healthcare system is interweved with so many facets of your life. It certainly isn't impossible, but it is impossible to do so in one or two terms. There was an attempt at it with Obamacare, they came a pretty long way, but by then the opposition grew so immensely someone with a different view got elected, abolishing everything that was set in motion...That was 8 years. Your current medicare for 65+ is payed TO privatized companies FOR the elderly, it is not the government themselves taking care of the people. Removing that middleman is quite impossible, since most hospitals are (generally) privately owned/run. The owners of those hospitals aren't going to just fork that over, they'd either ask an exorbitant amount of money or they'd simply repurpose the buildings. Leaving your government stuck building new infrastructure. That's just one caveat though, there's hundreds more.. Aside from that, the amount of roadblocks and political timewasting that would go on (since your country is about 50/50 (Left/Right)) in each and every state/county would be a mess. You think those private corporations aren't going to lobby against, and throw money at people who are against the idea of public healthcare by the millions? Look at Bloomberg mate, the dude literally bought himself into the presidential race, that's how much power money holds in your government. It's like Trumps wall. After 4 years the first few steps are finally coming to fruition... Idc what you vote for, go for it, for me it's an interesting reality tv show to watch your country bicker.
2020-02-19 18:15
nice post. This is exactly why small achievable steps have slowly improved lives over generations. This is not a momentum based game, if you over reach, you slip and go backwards. So we claw and inch our way forward and drag society with us kicking and screaming. Because if we dont, some idiot like trump or bush jr is going to come in with the intention of wiping out all the gains. (clinton assault weapon ban, trump's anti-obama everything)
2020-02-28 05:49
#197
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2020-02-19 18:22
#15
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Poland Hanse 
Only argument against Bernie atm is "he is fuckn socialist reee" It's kinda funny that USA citizens are absolutely cucked by corporations and gov that favourizes them - and they are proud of this state somehow
2020-02-18 03:05
#17
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
I'm a lib but how can you not see that Bernie is a socialist ? For the record, i dont believe increasing social spending is socialism but the man has praised breadlines, praised Venezuela's regime and the USSR, and calls himself a democratic socialist.
2020-02-18 03:08
and china dont forget china
2020-02-18 22:43
Don't forget the man actually went to Moscow for his honeymoon.
2020-02-19 16:56
#226
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
bro just because he calls himself a socialist doesnt mean he is one, the ideas he provide are surely not socialistic, every first world country should have free healthcare and free education americans have big problems understanding the term socialist/communist lel
2020-02-19 22:43
#37
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United States Doge14 
I'm not being cucked tho. I might have to pay for things people in other countries don't pay for, but I have a significantly lower tax than people in those countries.
2020-02-18 03:31
And the quality of what you're paying for is literally the best in the world.
2020-02-18 03:50
#57
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Poland Hanse 
And price too
2020-02-18 04:43
Best in the world is going to cost money. Want shit service? Go to another country. Peace
2020-02-18 07:01
#75
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Poland Hanse 
Social programms in some of western european countries have equal quality to these in USA. Only that you don't pay 500 bucks for insulin shot there
2020-02-18 11:55
Yeah, no. Not at all. People believe this all the time, but it's actually nonsense if you look at the data. This is why people travel to the US to get their surgeries, not away from the US. Also, social programs in european countries aren't comparable anyways because they're populations are so homogeneous: it's much easier to get a smaller group of people who all have similar values and cultures to agree to things and stick to them. And even further, it's much easier to maintain a budget with these programs when the US literally pays for most of your security and medical aid. Take away all the money from the US, add a 100 million more people from around the world and watch those systems burn themselves down.
2020-02-19 00:34
#124
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Poland Hanse 
You compare EU social sector to US private sector bruh
2020-02-19 01:15
you are getting cucked though. you still pay taxes and what you get for it is terrible, how can you not see that? it's like you are paying $10 for a meal that is terrible when you could pay $12 for an awesome meal. why do you think the US loses out against so many Western European countries on almost every indicator?
2020-02-18 04:09
#77
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Finland ThroneB 
$10 for the service, not even food*
2020-02-18 12:00
sry but not every country has the option to live off nazi gold
2020-02-19 01:16
#137
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United States Doge14 
I'm not sure I agree that 10$ gives you a terrible meal. Secondly, I think the US loses out against so many western European countries because of the amount of poor people that move to the country. When a poor foreigner from a less fortunate country comes to the US legally or illegally, it lowers the average on pretty much all the "indicators". Obviously the US has work to do but you act like western European countries have no faults
2020-02-19 03:49
what do you get from the government that isn't terrible? also US taxes aren't even that low. you might pay a bit less but what you get is either low quality or not existing at all. and stuff like student debt are really just lump sum taxes on education. if you add stuff like that you probably don't even that low taxes. and yeah most places in the US are probably still better than e.g. Romania but that's kind of a low bar considering their history. also blaming the immigrants is basically this meme: imgur.com/gallery/C78RK9P and kind of weird considering how most Americans were just poor Europeans
2020-02-19 04:24
#142
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United States Doge14 
Idk what to say. You are right, I'm wrong, the US is the worst place on the Earth catch me in the next Switzerland thread. The paradise of humanity
2020-02-19 04:53
Bro your delusional if you think Switzerland is a bad country to live in hahaha
2020-02-20 11:06
#290
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United States Doge14 
of course not, it's the paradise of humanity
2020-02-21 02:04
#63
rain | 
Australia S0di 
Last year, Democratic candidate, Bernie Sanders, bought a sports utility vehicle. Three months later, there were two separate incidences of hit and run by an unidentified SUV in his area. Is Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders to blame? Can you afford to take that chance? Can your children? That's why i'm voting for Republican candidate, Donald Trump, a candidate that has never committed vehicular homicide.
2020-02-18 05:02
#78
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Finland ThroneB 
Xaxaxaxa very funny
2020-02-18 12:01
#152
rain | 
Australia S0di 
I'm not sure what you're finding funny. Unless you laugh at peopled getting killed and their families not receiving justice? And not only is Bernie not getting his deserved punishment, people think he should be president... imagine having a president accused of vehicular homicide deciding their countries laws.
2020-02-19 09:15
#214
SANJI | 
Luxembourg kng_rdl 
alex jones pls get off hltv
2020-02-19 22:06
#227
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
yes pls
2020-02-19 22:44
#249
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Finland ThroneB 
Ur telling me granpa bernie is going around the neighborhood killing people. I find that ridiculous. Sounds like a made up news story to me.
2020-02-20 00:21
#262
rain | 
Australia S0di 
but i saw it from a Trump ad so it has to be true
2020-02-20 07:32
#277
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Finland ThroneB 
tru dat
2020-02-20 11:31
throw is some stock footage of clouds and you have got gold
2020-02-28 05:17
Expected from stupid polak communist
2020-02-19 12:00
#166
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Poland Hanse 
socialism != communism if you don't get the difference you shouldn't even start talking about politics
2020-02-19 12:17
Socialism =communism just nicer name xD
2020-02-19 13:26
Whenever I browse Reddit its like a giant AD for Bernie. Is he really popular or just popular in the Reddit bubble?
2020-02-18 03:07
#23
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
Bernie is very popular among younger audiences, and reddit is mostly used by millenials/gen z
2020-02-18 03:11
Older people would vote Biden
2020-02-18 03:15
#33
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
Probably yeah, although he seems to be losing popularity at the moment
2020-02-18 03:18
#89
koosta | 
United States yghj 
because hes a wierd old pervert that should honestly be running as repulbican. i think kobluchar is the better candidate for old fogeys that want some centrist idiot that wont get anything done
2020-02-18 21:37
reddit is a massive cirlejerk. four years ago they were just as obsessed with bernie and kept saying that he will win when it wasn't even close. he is more mainstream now, so it's more justified I guess. these are trump vs sanders polls: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/presid..
2020-02-18 04:11
btw 2019 uk election BORIS WILL LOSE NO WAY HE WILL WIN LABOUR PARTY WILL WIN EZ FOR THE OLD RACISTA DUDE after election HOW THIS HAPPENED I AM MOVING OUT OF UK I AM WILL LITERARY KMS I CANT LIVE IN RACIST COUNTRY ect ect
2020-02-18 22:45
50% of the people there probably arent even allowed to vote yet xaxaxa
2020-02-19 12:19
other 50% are from foreign country
2020-02-19 12:23
#215
SANJI | 
Luxembourg kng_rdl 
boris winning was expected by everyone though? trump in 2016 was more of a surprise but he lost the popular vote after all
2020-02-19 22:10
I live in the UK and i can tell you that a lot of young vocal social media users were hyping up Corbyn while all the older people / younger people to scared to talk against their peers narrative waited at home quietly and then showed you the vote. It was very clear that antisemitism by Corbyn really bit him in the ass and many people are scared that someone like Corbyn with his weak foreign policy could be in power
2020-02-20 11:09
#28
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United States WumboCumbo 
Trump 2020
2020-02-18 03:14
Wait, Bernie actually calls himself a socialist though
2020-02-18 03:44
I wouldn't say that Bernie is not a socialist. Yes, indeed, his policy is not that as radical as most of the socialists have, i.e abandoned private owns of the mean of production, willing starts a revolution to overthrow the government like Trotskyists or Maoists today, but I still recognize him as a Socialists. He had reintroduced the 'class struggle' in USA, letting more people to self-recognize their caste, the proletariats are starting to become much more united today via Bernie, this is the spark for the upcoming revolution.
2020-02-18 03:48
'just like Bernie isnt a socialist' LOL , Bernie himself says he is a socialist but guess I should trust you .
2020-02-18 03:51
>THIS ISNT TO SAY I SUPPORT BERNIE< Socialist in the US is completely different meaning than actual socialism. Bernie calls Scandinavia socialist despite them having free market economies. I read through his policies and didnt read anything about transforming America into a centrally planned economy. I dont think its fair to dismiss his ideas because he is called a "socialist"
2020-02-18 03:57
bernie also supported venezuela, cuba and the ussr and said bread lines are a good thing
2020-02-19 01:18
Why does the right always lose their shit at witch huntings on people for shit they said 10 years ago, but let it slide when it was some dumb shit a candidate said 40 years ago? I dont care if he praised cubas healthcare or Ussrs train lines 40 years ago. His policies are in black and white on his site, none of which talk about centrally plannee economies
2020-02-19 03:30
nt he praised venezuela in 2011 just before it became a literal hellhole, saying that "the American dream is more apt to be realized in Venezuela than it is the United States", which means he would have supported the same policies that turned Venezuela into a complete and utter desaster a few years later
2020-02-19 11:51
Where in his policies does it say to mirror venezuela?
2020-02-19 12:40
nice reading comprehension lol
2020-02-19 15:03
Seriously, tell me
2020-02-19 22:54
Never did I claim that his policies mirror venezuela, just that he praised their system in 2011
2020-02-19 22:58
Free market economies? really? a pizza and a coke costs $20 in copenhagen and $10 in uber liberal super wealthy New York City. The Scandavians are that free market. When the government is the single largest: consumer, employer, lender, borrower, landlord and tenant it is not a free market. The whole world is socialist, Bernie and the likeminded are communist.
2020-02-28 04:23
#84
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
imagine thinking a rich jew is socialist 👌😒
2020-02-18 21:33
It's what he says , can you read ?
2020-02-18 22:38
#228
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
yes and if you say youre a tree, you are obv one
2020-02-19 22:49
Not only he says he is , his policy are too but google is hard for average hltv user I guess .
2020-02-20 00:48
#257
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
stop eating all this propaganda, his ideas are far from socialism, just check your neighbour countries, they have free healthcare and free education as well and they are not socialist:) idk how it is in bulgaria
2020-02-20 01:01
Rofl , the delusion is amazing , im done .
2020-02-20 02:26
#279
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
nice arguments retardinho
2020-02-20 12:47
Trump 2020
2020-02-18 03:57
politics in 2020 LUL
2020-02-18 03:58
#54
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United States theory^ 
Medicare for all is cheaper by billions than what we use rn
2020-02-18 04:16
yes it is but just like Brexit — short term loss, long term gain — are people will ing to take short term loss ? also: what is civiliza tion supposed to aim to accomplish (free- for - all OR freedom - for - all); my point is that the majority of people are not doing what is ,, best for them '' … should we, the people, provide assistance to those not capable or willing to do they ,, should ''. I ' ll give some examples: ( 1 ) Person doesn't take care of themselves physically / health-wise; is it natural selection for these types of persons to fade away or are we morally obligated to intervene with Darwinism? ( 2 ) If a person is not economically gifted enough; how do we determine the current amount of inequality to account for? i.e., will gifting a TV level the position, or, maybe perhaps a Ferrari shall soothe the discontent? (People today live astronomically better than the humans of olden times — even those people living on a dollar per day.) & ( 3 ) Ignorance may be bliss, but I think we would all agree that we would rather be surrounded by smart people than dumb people. Will offering education as charity (instead of a transactional service) inspire more rational, empirical, scientific thinking — or are we just going to get a circle- jerk of gender-studies, sociology, anthropology, etc. which, to be fair, is more educational than basket weaving at least. [* Note]: Many make the argument that, in fact, those lower in the socio - economic ladder actually tend to reproduce more voraciously. As a result my point in the ( 1 )st example is moot — people less healthy, less educated, less wealthy will actually tend to grow as a population overall. I have actually changed my own mind while writing the [* Note] above: ,,The only way to further human prosperity shall be through charity of wealth, education, and health (i.e., care / access to high quality food / community fitness activities / medical technology & personnel). But, why would I give up my current position to pay more in taxes for the benefit of the country when I gotta' think about my own family. I do put all humans on the same plane of worth — but, even ( you ) reading this gives more of a fuck about your family than random blokes on the street. I'd be down to donate IF I knew it would be spent on a long term investment of that person's standard of living — and not ciggies, alc, lines, gluttony, etc. What am I supposed to do? Vote to give my money away as taxes to the government who will then implement plans to spend it? Any anarchists in this forum? Any people think people get complacent forreal forreal on the government teet? What is the incentive to redistribute my money to people — who, once they acquire said funds, will they themselves have absolutely no incentive to ,, get their own '' as it is said. I'd be down to kick it and do fuck-all as well, as a matter of fact. (Like, watch CS:GO games all goddamn day.) I would vote for universal healthcare and education, BUT only at the expense of social ,, bull-shit '' welfare. I understand welfare in hard-times and crisis, but handouts at this time? I don't even understand the public housing expeditions — homeless / don't have funds to survive in urban city — these people have no business being integrated into buildings at the center of a bustling metropolitan center where production of value requires high skills. Send them to farm food for Christ's Sake. Or, as the meme goes: ,, learn to code ''. There is a reason, however, why that meme is such a joke: anybody can't do anything. The difficulty I think is weeding out the bad actors from the good actors… Some people just need some encouragement and move on. But most look to take advantage (as they should I suppose). Mates … I am so goddamn undecided — been a Bernie supporter since like 2015. Registered as a Republican like a year ago. Looking to transition from non-voter to voter this year. I ' ll probably just vote 3rd party cause I not feeling either or. The real move is voting local & state. That is where shit matters forreal forreal. Stuff in your own City Hall. Stuff that actually impacts you.
2020-02-18 05:27
Bernies policies dont say anything about raising taxes for the average american though
2020-02-19 08:55
#341
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United States theory^ 
Hmm really good points here
2020-02-29 00:59
Government rationing of anything has always resulted in lesser product or service for higher cost. Every single time in the history of man-oh but VA care for all it will be much cheaper!
2020-02-28 04:18
#56
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United States sorcrcrc 
^every one who says trump= gay 😎👌
2020-02-18 04:42
#292
AmaNEk | 
Taiwan FH| 
+1
2020-02-21 02:18
#58
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Brazil JMB_17 
Trump 100% And if you think Bernie is better you're dumb
2020-02-18 04:45
They're both shit. Trump is a Zionist sellout and Bernie loves illegals, and all the other degenerate shit.
2020-02-18 04:48
Great discussion on policy guys!
2020-02-18 04:52
I love Bernies economic policies actually. I'd wish he'd drop the leftist social policies though. He would win in a landslide if he did.
2020-02-18 04:55
What leftist social policies? What does that even mean?
2020-02-18 05:04
All the LGBTQ+ nonsense, gun grabbing, anti-free speech, illegal immigration, and buzz words like "racist, xenophobe, sexist, etc"
2020-02-18 05:06
Do you think he is ,, required '' to cater to that left-leaning crowd (an example of which was the chick( s ) that flashed their yitties on that stage). I feel like he just says that stuff ( like literally just speaks the words and then completely forgets it right after regurgitating it ). I think he is leaning towards the, as you put it: ,, All the LGBTQ+ nonsense, gun grabbing, anti-free speech, illegal immigration, and buzz words like "racist, xenophobe, sexist, etc" '' just to pander to the *insert leftist categorization here* ? All of that ,, nonsense '' as you said it is actually completely inconsequential; except for, of course, gun-control policy.
2020-02-18 05:35
Aside from the gungrabbing which i disagree with, all that stuff is bullshit pop culture talking points. Its not politics, but i agree that it affects their chances a caindidate says some cuck shit.
2020-02-18 05:39
#116
koosta | 
United States yghj 
nevermind, obi referred to "lgbtq+ nonsense" as "cuck shit" not based and incel
2020-02-19 00:45
#80
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Brazil JMB_17 
Nah he wouldn't. Trump's economy is better than Bernie's, + everyone is loving how your economy is skyrocketing
2020-02-18 14:14
Bernie has no economy?
2020-02-18 21:27
Well it depends, capitalistic politics like Trump's drives economics typically further on a national level but when you compare exactly who benefits from it, it's usually the rich corporate people especially meanwhile low-income even can lose some due to lot of expenses outside work that more socalistic agenda driving leaders will try to fix which the rich pays for. Bernie's politics would likely make USA on a national wide lvl somewhat worse but make the living standards for the say 25-50K income ppl a little better which also typically raises the happiness lvl somewhat of the country because of less anxiety/stress factor among working people. So in the end it comes down to whom you want to serve.
2020-02-18 23:09
search David Sirotta-he is a Bernie economic adviser. He also wrote a book in 2014 called Venezuela; The Economic Miracle. As if somehow communism will work this time.
2020-02-28 04:17
#76
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Europe _EpiC_ 
lol Bern beating orange man in every poll
2020-02-18 11:55
#90
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United States n3h 
So was hillary, polls are trash.
2020-02-18 21:37
#98
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United States kami917 
Well she did beat him in total votes....
2020-02-18 22:13
Because of Cuckfornia and New OMEGALUL York. Bunch of immigrants that should've never entered the US. Thank God, USA has a perfect election system, unlike many of us poor europeans.
2020-02-19 12:12
#111
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United States AproximateCS 
pff the polls that had Hillary Winning wanted her to win, the people who do the polls now don't want Bernie to win lol
2020-02-18 23:20
#178
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Europe _EpiC_ 
name one poll in which trump beats sanders realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/presid..
2020-02-19 15:52
#180
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United States AproximateCS 
M8 you got it all wrong lol, I was stating that the polls where Bernie win are better than the polls that showed Hillary winning lmao.
2020-02-19 16:28
Just look at the swing state polling, that's all you need. Especially the Midwest.
2020-02-19 09:11
Socialism would be best for America stop democratic and republican bs
2020-02-18 12:06
#87
koosta | 
United States yghj 
its neither of those things tbh. fucking oligarchy
2020-02-18 21:35
#86
koosta | 
United States yghj 
im really glad to know all the american retards in this thread talking about how great trump is are all 14 and arent old enough to vote.
2020-02-18 21:35
Haha yeah, seems every 13 yo kid with a computer is far right these days
2020-02-18 22:04
how old are you again aaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-02-20 00:04
#305
koosta | 
United States yghj 
older than you lmao
2020-02-21 23:04
either way your mental age is at best 5 years behind
2020-02-22 03:02
#313
koosta | 
United States yghj 
ok kid
2020-02-22 05:33
#88
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Netherlands puddingkip 
old ass white dude #1 vs old ass white dude #2 ResidentSleeper
2020-02-18 21:36
You're on hltv, everyone here seems to be far right
2020-02-18 22:04
#121
Rich | 
North America Gumdrop 
In a lot of polls posted on HLTV recently the numbers have been favoring the left, but I don’t think they speak much because they’re super young and not informed enough to state their opinion.
2020-02-19 01:11
I suppose it's a 50/50 split between adults and 13 year olds on this site anyway
2020-02-19 12:09
wtf im 18 men((
2020-02-20 11:12
technically an adult i guess :)
2020-02-20 11:13
#95
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Sweden ZuChii 
Bernie only likeable democratic candidate but will lose VS Trump because americans think social democracy and socialism are the same thing and they still have propaganda in their heads from the cold war lmfao
2020-02-18 22:06
He will win vs Trump. Sanders is very popular in the Rust Belt, the same place that got Trump elected vs Clinton.
2020-02-18 22:08
The Democratic party, much like the Republican party, is a party thats becoming less and less welcome to moderates. I can tell you now that current dems who've lived through the cold war aren't going to vote for Bernie lmao. Trump already has a very loyal base and would gain a big boost in extra votes from those democrats who fear the idea of socialism. Freeloading college students wont make up the difference. Those people are going to vote for what they consider the lesser of two evils either way (eg. Biden/Bloomberg) He cant win.
2020-02-19 01:34
I agree with your opening, but I dont think I agree with your conclusion that older democrats wont vote for the democratic candidate. Trump is pretty much the anti-thesis of those democrats, a guy that faked his way to the top leaving behind a scorched trail of bad business decisions and wrecked companies. The guy literally stole from his charities which were then shut down as scams while claiming the Clintons are stealing from their charities which are rated the most efficient charities. Nah they would vote democrat over trump which is why these people that have refused to caucaus with democrats and accused democrats of cheating while edit: meanwhile losing most of the votes are suddenly so 'super democrat'
2020-02-28 05:30
#117
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Norway Markus98h 
Bernie is a self-described «democratic socialist» so idk why you mention «social democracy». America is against democratic socialist, aka socalism.
2020-02-19 01:07
Wanting free healthcare etc for even illegals is socialist policy...
2020-02-18 22:46
It's an evil policy.
2020-02-19 01:28
I never said that it was good tho...
2020-02-19 11:10
you rightist cant look past the label of socialist can you lol,
2020-02-18 22:47
Dawg honestly, idgaf just stay outta my life, don't tax the fuck outta me, and let me live without tryna regulate every single aspect of my life. that's why I like Trump more. do we need a certain degree of regulation, yes, but Bernie just goes too far. Its like in football, the best refs are the one's who do the least reffing in a game. Same with government, the best one is the small one.
2020-02-18 22:48
What regulation goes too far?
2020-02-19 03:34
stupid high tax rates is what i mainly have problem with. i get taxed for working then i get taxed for spending the money i earned working then i get taxed for living in a house hell in the city i live in i get taxed for the fucking rain. (i know that's not on Bernie but still retarded) with bernie from what I've read and understand, I'd get the shit taxed out of me even more, and then all these "environment" regulations. like I love nature and helping the environment, but this hypocrite flies on a private jet and wants to lecture me on environment. sit the fuck down man. (him, not you)
2020-02-19 17:00
#198
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Sweden Trkmag 
How is he supposed to campaign for president if he can't use a private jet to go anywhere at anytime without wasting extra time?
2020-02-19 18:24
i'm not saying don't use it, i'm saying don't be fake and preach all this bullshit but don't act like it. do as i say, not as i do. fucking fake bullshit dude. also the dude owns like 4 houses, which is bad for environment. he's a fraud to me.
2020-02-19 20:14
#208
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Sweden Trkmag 
He has 3 houses, but all with purposes for his different actions abroad. It’s not like they are huge mansions. His work for the climate, trying to make actual change happen, does far more good than his jet flying.
2020-02-19 21:56
bro if he wanted to do something about the climate, then he would campaign to make china and india take more responsibility.
2020-02-19 21:59
#223
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Sweden Trkmag 
He wants to do something against the climate, and he is talking about large scale changes. Big industries, in both west and east, are the big offenders and if we want serious change they have to change their production.
2020-02-19 22:28
He does want to work with those countries to midigate effects.
2020-02-19 22:52
well if that's the case then at least he's not being a total hypocrite about it, but anyone can talk like how Trump talked about his wall and everything
2020-02-19 23:56
Well uh, yeah?
2020-02-20 00:26
glad we could agree
2020-02-20 01:17
#112
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
More like DMC vs. Bernie
2020-02-18 23:23
#114
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United States Trump2020KAG 
MY NAME CHECKS OUT
2020-02-19 00:36
#119
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
What’s kag?
2020-02-19 01:08
It means "Keep America Great"
2020-02-19 01:22
#216
SANJI | 
Luxembourg kng_rdl 
when has america ever been great? pre 1492 maybe
2020-02-19 22:12
Post-WW2 to 1970's.
2020-02-19 22:24
#120
Rich | 
North America Gumdrop 
8/8 name 😎
2020-02-19 01:08
#115
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Norway Markus98h 
America deserve a great leader, so Trump 2020.
2020-02-19 00:38
#118
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
Bernie says himself he is a democratic socialist - and that is NOT a bad thing
2020-02-19 01:08
0/8
2020-02-19 01:17
Trump because he doesn't want to ban guns and isnt anti-america.
2020-02-19 01:27
What does this even mean lmao
2020-02-19 03:33
Trump has done absolutely nothing for the descendants of the people who built America (European colonists and settlers). There is no wall. There is no deportation force. He has brought in more immigrants than any president ever. He keeps saying that there are too many white men making 6 figure incomes doing computer work so he wants to bring in 10 million Indians to replace them. The drug epidemic rages on unchecked killing our people by the thousands each month. We've got homosexuals dressed as demons molesting little boys at the public libraries. He threatens any foreign nation that won't legalize and promote gay sex. Trump's Supreme Court has not over turned Roe v. Wade. Babies are still being murdered and sacrificed to Moloch by the millions. He has not normalized relations with Russia but has escalated things even more. He has not ended the war in Syria. He has not pulled troops out of Afghanistan. He has threatened North Korea, Syria, Russia, China, and many others. In short, Trump isn't even president, he's a puppet of the real rulers of America. Keep reading to find out who they are. With Bernie the rich dual citizens who run America might have to pay taxes and therefore become slightly less rich. With Trump the rich dual citizens who run America will become richer and more powerful than ever. Do you know they named an entire city after Trump in Israel? Yea. Trump is guaranteed to win. The actual rulers of America love him, and he loves them. From Trump's Twitter: “Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world...and the Jewish people in Israel love him...." "They" want Trump to win so bad they sent in Bloomberg to spend hundreds of millions of his shekels pretending to campaign against Trump, because they do NOT want Bernie to be the nominee because he might actually beat Trump. Trump has made Israel richer and more powerful than ever and that's all you need to know.
2020-02-19 01:41
#186
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Brazil jstrr 
so your logical conclusion is "jews" instead of "capitalist billionaires who profit from trump being in power and and troops staying in the middle east"? way to go also i'm pretty sure the people who built america haven't been mostly european for the past two centuries
2020-02-19 16:48
The U.S. population was over 90% white as recently as 1965.
2020-02-19 22:02
#139
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United States fart_lmao 
fart_lmao 2020
2020-02-19 03:55
#140
jks | 
United States Fule 
media makes sanders look to win just like in 2016 with clinton but i think i have said this before. most trump supporters dont have the time to argue, vote in polls, or go to protests since they are the blue collar workers who make this country an economic powerhouse. they produce our cars, our everyday items, and maintain our power system and work our oil fields instead
2020-02-19 04:04
Trump rallys Second amendment rallys Prolife rallys
2020-02-19 08:57
#181
jks | 
United States Fule 
and? i said most some do go to rallies
2020-02-19 16:35
Same applies to democrats, people with jobs dont protest period, unless its a labour movement
2020-02-19 22:53
#233
jks | 
United States Fule 
if they even have jobs since most college students and millenials are the ones voting for bernie
2020-02-19 23:54
Millenials have a higher employment rate than non millenials bls.gov/opub/mlr/2019/article/time-use-o.. US Gov statistics
2020-02-20 00:30
TRUMP vs SANDERS will be a remake of JOHNSON vs CORBYN. trump will win his second session with a historic win. and democratic party will disintegrate.
2020-02-19 05:00
#200
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Sweden Trkmag 
Well, Sanders doesn't have the same dumb disadvantage that Corbyn and Labour gave themselves by opposing Brexit...
2020-02-19 18:26
Who cars about ideas, Trump is the only candidate who was at Wrestlemania.
2020-02-19 09:02
#155
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Sweden DeeColon 
+1 billion
2020-02-19 11:19
Bernie wins and China will become numba 1 😎
2020-02-19 09:09
Trump best german president
2020-02-19 11:22
Neither of them will be likely to live until the next election anyways, Both of them are almost 80 years old. Didnt sanders have a heart attack recently?
2020-02-19 11:55
#160
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Norway at0mic_cs 
I am once again asking for your financial support
2020-02-19 11:57
Imagine being into NA politics, that shit is a joke and every inbred that is hard stuck right/left is so fucking mongoloid, it's insane. Don't think I've ever cringed as much as I do when I read redneck KKonas arguing over politics with each other.
2020-02-19 12:25
+34543234
2020-02-20 00:08
#179
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United States n3h 
Polls are such a small pool size, all this proves is the nutjobs who answer their phone and talks to a poll person for 20 mins want Bernie to win. Which is probably mostly college kids who are in debt. Them bitches call me im hanging up on their ass. TRUMP 2020
2020-02-19 16:16
Can't wait for Bernie to win and have every speech get interrupted by a fat topless woman or a POC screeching feminism or equality and then he dies and his vice president becomes the actual person running the country. Can't wait to see who it is. Can't wait for Bernie to get elected and get caught taking more private planes in his fight for climate change.
2020-02-19 16:44
Trotsky vs Hitler XD
2020-02-19 18:26
stopped reading at "Trump is a white supremacist" he is jew lover
2020-02-19 18:27
#202
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Sweden Trkmag 
Of course Sanders is better. One wants to change the deeply corrupt and rigged american system, the other one is doing everything to keep said system in place.
2020-02-19 18:27
cry is free
2020-02-19 20:08
#207
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Sweden Trkmag 
You are the only one crying
2020-02-19 21:54
usa needs sanders so they can finally have this too twitter.com/SamnyttSimon/status/12301400..
2020-02-19 21:56
#217
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Sweden Trkmag 
They already have plenty of violence, and for the same reason Sweden has - brutal neoliberal policies widening the gaps, creating poverty and thus criminality.
2020-02-19 22:22
hahahahha
2020-02-19 22:22
>Sweden >Neoliberal
2020-02-19 22:24
#224
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Sweden Trkmag 
Yes, since the 80s.
2020-02-19 22:29
#235
jks | 
United States Fule 
says sweden where bernies ideas failed
2020-02-19 23:56
#243
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Sweden Trkmag 
Which ideas? And what failure?
2020-02-20 00:08
#246
jks | 
United States Fule 
ceo of ikea left ur country cause taxes were too high. in the 60s/79s you tried socialism and failed with ur healthcare and education becoming too expensive
2020-02-20 00:11
#251
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Sweden Trkmag 
What are you on about? The social democratic policies deployed in the mid 1900s was a massive success and firmly established Sweden as one of the best countries in the world to live in. Sadly the neoliberal policies deployed since the 80s have torn down a significant part of the work done earlier. Rich companies and people always claim whatever they pay is too much. Sweden was ranked as the best country for entrepreneurial activity in the EU quite recently, so saying Sweden isn’t a company-friendly country is flat out untrue.
2020-02-20 00:25
presidents change but nothing changes )) y care bout politics?
2020-02-19 22:26
#236
jks | 
United States Fule 
i was able to get house and pay for car cause taxes lowered. would've taken years more of saving without those taxes being lowered
2020-02-19 23:57
+1
2020-02-20 00:08
#238
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Australia Moonayyy 
Bernie or bust
2020-02-20 00:00
so if bernie loses you'll bust what small part of your brain still remains?
2020-02-20 00:07
Trump - 73 years old Bernie - 78 years old Soon they will need diapers This is USA now
2020-02-20 00:11
#252
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Korea kaiske 
It fits well for USA Both are a total shit, one is a literal Jew and the other worships them
2020-02-20 00:26
At this point Americans have a hell of a choice: degenerative clown or communist that loves Muslims. I bet on the clown. Texas will again be easily conquered by Trump and that's all that matters, because they ain't voting for damn commie in Texas. Florida ain't voting for a commie either. Pennsylvania will probably go blue this time (Bernie was very popular there in 2016), but that won't matter. I'm still sure Democrats won't let Bernie run, so welcome Biden or Bloomberg(which is even easier for Trump)
2020-02-20 00:43
Thank you for this in depth insight, your contribution is much appreciated Btw texas almost went blue last election
2020-02-20 01:28
#263
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Finland ToxicDUD 
Wtf is up with that premise? Trump isnt white supremacist sure we know that he has been pictured with rosa parks and he explicitly condemned white supremacists BUT Bernie is a socialist if not a communist He supports full out nationalisation of all major industries since he was 30 and never redacted those views. America will NEVER be a socialist country thank god
2020-02-20 07:35
#264
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United States EmperorTrump 
America will NEVER elect commie as president despite a bunch of leftie college kids and redditors shilling for Sanders
2020-02-20 07:41
But Trump is president right now? He is the right hand of Putin?
2020-02-20 11:17
No, Mueller report did not find enough evidence to believe this claim
2020-02-20 22:49
He is the right hand of Netanyahu, disgusting Zionist puppet that is Trump.
2020-02-21 03:25
Good thing no commie is running then.
2020-02-21 23:15
Though Bernie policies seems good but if he is communist thn i think orange is ok. Btw one qus to my fellow Americans : will Michael Obama run for presidency in future?
2020-02-20 08:12
#273
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Germany Kexor 
hopefully Bernie! but i guess it will be even easier for trump this time...4 more years with this clown gg
2020-02-20 11:16
#286
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United States fart_lmao 
TRUMP TRAIN 2020 KAG
2020-02-20 22:48
I bet 1000 Euros on Trump winning the election. Ez profit lol.
2020-02-20 11:16
Trump wants the rich richer and the poor in jail.. Berne wants to take from the rich and give to the poor.. Not really a hard choice
2020-02-20 11:17
Dane
2020-02-21 01:41
I doubt bernie will even live long enough to see the results
2020-02-20 12:48
#284
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Trump is only 5 years younger and also an obese.
2020-02-20 17:46
#288
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United States fart_lmao 
with the absolute shit show the dems are putting on right now Trump will win easily. They are practically winning him the election
2020-02-20 22:50
I dont think they had a chance this election from the start, no strong candidate except for bernie and the poor man is on his last leg, no, his last toes.
2020-02-21 02:55
#301
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United States fart_lmao 
+1
2020-02-21 14:37
Is Bernie over Biden in election polls?
2020-02-21 03:15
Biden has no chance. The man probably has dementia, he shouldn't even be running.
2020-02-21 03:26
#303
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Poland DrPoolittle 
TRUMP SMASH
2020-02-21 14:44
the question is whos got worse ideas and thats b*rnie
2020-02-21 14:51
If you are millionaire or billionaire and think only about yourself or your hair then vote for Trump. Otherwise vote for Sanders. Pretty simple.
2020-02-21 23:14
as per usual the wealthiest men in the history of earth class: Bezos, Gates, Buffet, Zuck, musk, Cuban, Soros and on and on some more to the tune of 90percent really appreciate your perpetually fanatically brain dead lying support. and oh btw, no corona cure coming from any UK. France, italy, Canada, Australia crap government rationed healthcar system. but a doolers gotta drool.
2020-02-28 04:28
I have no idea what you first sentence mean mate. But about corona, the first potential cure, Chloroquine, is coming from Germany so try again please.
2020-02-28 08:37
Bernie will win.
2020-02-21 23:31
Hard to beat free, free, free, free but Dems won't let Bernie run this all book tour v2.0.
2020-02-28 04:09
#326
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Australia Moonayyy 
idk why anyone who isn't in the wealthy class would support Trump, like he doesn't benefit the general population at all, so why vote for him?
2020-02-28 04:48
#327
Rich | 
North America Gumdrop 
Because hes bestest
2020-02-28 04:51
Well.. Since he entered office, job numbers and gone one way, and that is up. Especially for Blacks and lationes, actually they have never been higher. So maybe they actually do benefit from him being in office? The thing is that it's more important for people to get food on the table rather than getting in line with political correctness and identity issues.
2020-02-28 13:15
Bernie actually is a socialist, he even says it himself.
2020-02-28 13:16
Doesn't matter much. Bernie will not be able to pass a whole lot of what he'd like to. He has good intentions, but in the end the power of the president in the USA is far from absolute. Trump is an idiot but I don't see him as a great threat to the world. Maybe he'll bomb some country with lots of brown people, as is American tradition to keep the war machine manufacturer lobby happy. He's a symptom of the anti-globalization movement and the increasing tension in the world today, not the cause. Neither of them will change what is really wrong with America, which is the voting system and political process in general, not to mention healthcare and fair worker's rights. I'd prefer Bernie, obviously, and if he could keep even half his promises that'd be great, but I doubt it. Until last week, I would have said that it's very unlikely that Trump will lose simply due to the strong economy, but if this corona crap is going to cause a recession, then maybe Bernie can win, although I expect that Americans still react quite well trained to the word "socialist", even though he isn't one.
2020-02-28 13:28
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