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Sweden m4st4m4st3r4wp 
Rn guardian should chill and take some time off like flusha did. Then when liquid fails at the major and kicks stewie2k they should pick up GuardiaN. His skill and motivation will be back and he can teach those young NA stars how to not choke in big games. I dont believe guardian just suddenly lost all his skill in 2019 just randomly. He was good from 2013-2018. So dont come and say he is "too old" or "washed up". You dont just lose your skill for no reason like that.
2020-02-21 13:55
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stewie2k >> GuardiaN
2020-02-21 13:56
#27
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
+1
2020-02-21 15:05
GuardiaN >>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bot2k
2020-02-21 15:06
ok. flare check out
2020-02-21 15:07
But nickname doesn't
2020-02-21 15:15
#47
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Finland veganisti 
navi 4 majors finland 4 major gyazo.com/a7aaa56f097ab43e6a8c48e0e6cde2.. but denmark 0 majors
2020-02-21 15:38
#46
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China KoreanFan 
lol
2020-02-21 15:35
#57
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Portugal joaosenra 
+1
2020-02-21 16:56
#34
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Nt newfag
2020-02-21 15:10
nt Islam
2020-02-21 15:10
#70
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Russia V9l1k 
2020-02-21 21:51
#2
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Australia forsaken_exe 
This still requires liquid to bomb out at Kato and major. Even if this happens, I am not sure a tier 1 team will pick up guardian. There are better free agents out there IMO.
2020-02-21 13:56
Guardian would have to go a team like HR or c0ntact, and prove himself again
2020-02-21 15:09
#33
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Australia forsaken_exe 
Definitely something in T2 yeah. Then he might get looked at if he improves.
2020-02-21 15:09
he isnt free agent
2020-02-21 15:17
#40
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Australia forsaken_exe 
Is he benched on NaVi ?
2020-02-21 15:26
yes
2020-02-21 15:28
they already have an awper
2020-02-21 13:57
Stewie naf and nitr0 arent awpers. They can use it but not like guardian when he is in form.
2020-02-21 13:58
guardian hasnt been in form for 6 months now and he probably wont ever be good enough to surpass Naf or nitr0 or even maybe stew
2020-02-21 13:58
People said this in 2016 aswell and then he came back a year later and was top 10 in the world.
2020-02-21 14:00
hltv.org/stats/players/2757/GuardiaN?sta.. he was still decent then. Right now he is getting .9 rating
2020-02-21 17:48
for 1 years*
2020-02-21 14:02
why on earth did you mention naf there lol...
2020-02-21 15:32
what is wrong with NAF? Unless I didn't remember correctly isnt he their "main" awper as in he gets it most of the time
2020-02-21 17:49
he is their "3rd" awper but my point was more like naf is around top5 player last 2 years and guardian is nowhere near him. so thats why i asked why did you put naf there if we consider their performance nowadays /edit i just checked the most recent stats(last 3 months) and you are right. he actually plays with it way more often than he used to. i didnt even notice that haha:D
2020-02-21 18:00
#4
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Austria sometime2 
Just -Stewie +Ethan/floppy and make NAF primary AWP
2020-02-21 13:57
Ethan couldnt go Liquid. Their chemistry is good with boys now
2020-02-21 14:07
#55
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North America onionmesh 
no mens naf too good for avp mens
2020-02-21 16:46
#5
jks | 
Switzerland cykalater 
So dont come and say he is "too old" or "washed up". You dont just lose your skill for no reason like that. Well, you just contradicted yourself
2020-02-21 13:57
I mean guardian isnt too old or "washed up". He just isnt motivated. Same thing happened in navi 2016/2017. Then he joined faze and got motivated again. Then he even said faze wasted 1 year cuz they never picked up an igl. Then he joins navi without an igl...
2020-02-21 13:59
#19
jks | 
Switzerland cykalater 
boombl4 is doing fine right now as an igl. guardian just simply couldn't put uf numbers. it's that easy. he missed soo many shots, shots which he would've hit blind back in his prime. don't understand me wrong, i really like guardian, but you have to see the truth.
2020-02-21 14:06
well navi werent even using guardian. they were just putting him in passive positions. he had no motivation when he joined navi and should have then already taken time off. you could still see games in navi where he did some sick plays but then missed the easy shots. he just lost his consistency cuz of no motivation and low practice. you could still see he had the skill.
2020-02-21 14:08
#22
jks | 
Switzerland cykalater 
but then missed the easy shots. you could still see he had the skill. how i'm supposed to see his skills, if he's missing shots i would've hit? i know what guardian is able to do, or was able to do. but why would you jion a t1 team and lack of motivation? thats no excuse and if so, the spot is not deserved.
2020-02-21 14:11
because he had plenty of rounds where he did some insane flicks and plays. yes he was missing easy shots aswell but as i said its cuz he wasnt very motivated, like in 2016. ofc there is no excuse but this is why he played bad. i guess he joined navi cuz he didnt want to unemployed. he joined navi right after leaving faze but he should have taken time off. guardian's skill isnt gone, he just needs to take time off and start practicing and get motivation back. 100% he will be atleast a top30 player again after that.
2020-02-21 14:15
Boombl4 definitely isn't doing fine as an igl. Individually? Yes but not as an igl...
2020-02-21 16:42
+1
2020-02-21 20:27
braindead thread, dont comment here guys, lets close this shit /closed
2020-02-21 13:58
/open
2020-02-21 14:00
#15
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Romania Iosif 
Same as yours talking about s1mple being toxic, but still haven't seen you saying "/closed" on that one.
2020-02-21 14:03
Should take a break from cs. Get in shape, take testosterone supplements and see from there.
2020-02-21 13:58
+1 for testosterone supplements LMAO
2020-02-21 16:34
Interesting but I don’t think it will work
2020-02-21 13:59
its the same with kennyS. ppl said he was shit during some years like 2018 and 2016. but he was never shit he just wasnt motivated cuz of his team. its the same with guardian. if he isnt motivated, he will miss these easy shots cuz not much practice. but when he is practicing he is always good.
2020-02-21 14:04
#16
NiKo | 
Finland Unb8able 
I feel like this is just a distant dream
2020-02-21 14:04
no its very possible. in navi he was playing very weird positions and too passive. let him playing normally and when his motivation is back he will be amazing again.
2020-02-21 14:06
#50
NiKo | 
Finland Unb8able 
But I doubt Liquid would give him a chance
2020-02-21 16:29
If there was any fix for liquid if they dont regain form its -Twistzz -Stewie2k +Brehze +Grim/crashies/autimatic maybe? I'm not saying Twistzz is bad but a more radical change is gonna have to happen at this point. Bring on more firepower, and either get one of the better MDL players or bring on auti to awp and have Brehze and ELiGE entry.
2020-02-21 14:17
Stopped reading at +Grim/crashies/autimatic bait checks out
2020-02-21 14:55
Grim and crashies ain't in an org, and name any better MDL players for pickup for cheap. I'm not saying they're a solution, but just literally some form of difference in the team with atleast the skill to back it up. Auti I only say as someone who could take the awp off of nitr0, but I rather not see him picked up. The only reason I'd put him over other awpers is the next best player on paper is PTR and hes washed as fuck, unless they could somehow get Smooya. I dont see EG releasing players to Liquid like that, unless they find a deal somewhere to trade players. C9 is on an upward trajectory and probably wont want to change players, same with coL to a degree. Not many EU players available for what they need. They're dry as hell on good pickups in NA without going into big buyouts, or risking on unproven players.
2020-02-21 17:36
We are talking about Liquid, a team that's supposed to be a contender for the best team in the world, a team that's supposed to give Astralis trouble, and you wanna add GRIM or CRASHIES? Get out Twistzz isn't an issue, the only change that needs to be done is -stewie and there are a lot of free agents that are actually really good options, for example SicK, ANDROID, maybe even some1 like Fugly... Oh and Autimatic is very overrated rn, he was good, but has fallen so far that now he's pretty trash
2020-02-21 17:44
Both crashies and grim have potential. I'm not saying sign them on a permanent basis but a trial could work for them if given the right roles as they are both fairly solid players (if I recall Grim was the reason MiBR almost lost to AZIO in ECS awhile back when MiBR were still regarded as a top 10 team) and finding someone that fits stews roles exactly is hard since nobody in NA could generate the same impact, hence why I think taking up an awper and giving nitr0 more rifling freedom could work. I rather see them get someone other than auti, which is why I put crashies and Grim above him since I feel like they could play an entry role with their more aggressive playstyles, and be bait for Elige. Free agent wise, SicK is playing with eU atm, and most likely will get signed. ANDROID was falling off in high level CS, and is in obscurity with the ZPG mix (they have cJ-da-k1ng ffs) and the only other players that would be worth the risk is Shahz, Fugly, dapr, Zellsis but none of them fill the entry role, Shahz can take the awp off of nitr0 and have him and Twistzz dual entry, but thatd be such a drastic shift that if it doesnt work it's a waste of time (going off the logic we only do -Stew) which leaves next to no talent worth signing unless they go to EU or buy out someone (which is a possibility, but we can assume coL, C9, and EG would be off the table, atleast for now) so it really gives them minimal pickups
2020-02-21 21:50
#26
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Denmark Zaerdna 
"teach those young NA stars how to not choke in big games." youtu.be/zkAshr58qEs?t=96 Just gonna leave this here. Choked a 15-11 lead
2020-02-21 15:00
lol guardian was the one carrying in that grand final
2020-02-21 15:34
It's not even that he lost the skill. The Meta is just 5 rifles atm. All of the best awpers are also good or at least average riflers. Guardian sucks ass with rifles. KennyasS worked on his rifle game and Guardbot didnt
2020-02-21 15:05
#30
flusha | 
Lithuania fbhx 
Guardian has losers mentality, unlike flusher so that's not gonna happen
2020-02-21 15:06
teach how to not choke games??? yeah thats why he lost all his major finals
2020-02-21 15:10
and he played the best in 2 of those and the 3rd one he was injured...
2020-02-21 15:34
#37
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Russia Praeter 
he has become too lazy and somehow managed to lose all his skill
2020-02-21 15:15
#45
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Czech Republic Alsak 
You know that guardian already choked a lot of final mathes, right?
2020-02-21 15:35
show me. carried 2 major finals. him and niko carried sydney, belo horizonte and epicenter. and in navi until 2015 he carried everything. he played bad in 2019 but didnt "choke".
2020-02-21 17:11
#66
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Czech Republic Alsak 
I mean navi times
2020-02-21 20:25
#48
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United States sorcrcrc 
0/8
2020-02-21 15:44
#49
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Palestine Xpicyy 
Literally anyone on liquid Is better than him Why people still care about this washedup bot
2020-02-21 15:48
How about no.
2020-02-21 16:30
#52
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Estonia sEEm4NN 
hahaha guardian is shit hes time is over or mby if he can lose some weight then he can make comeback right now hes too fat and cant move hes arms
2020-02-21 16:30
1. Liquid don't need another AWPer 2. GuardiaN won't bring the entry fragging ability to Liquid 3. Stewie is the secondary caller for Liquid, brings a lot of impact and takes some weight off of nitr0 I still love GuardiaN as a player but there's no doubt that he will bring nothing but bad results for Liquid
2020-02-21 16:51
#59
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Portugal dascouves 
GuardiaN fans are becoming worse than fox delusional fanboys. GuardiaN is washed, get over it. Time for new blood
2020-02-21 17:13
Guardian to OG
2020-02-21 17:39
yeah to liquid, he will miss every shot
2020-02-21 20:27
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