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ENCE hate is unreal
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Israel Hezekiel_Keepo 
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 09:33
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0/8
2020-02-23 09:35
The hate isreal
2020-02-23 09:38
XDDDDDDDD
2020-02-23 09:59
#48
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Netherlands bbyNator 
antisemitism?
2020-02-23 10:18
OP has Israeli flag.... That's why he said it.
2020-02-23 11:33
#141
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Finland Siika 
XD ni ce
2020-02-23 11:33
reported
2020-02-23 17:18
Reported for antisemitism. You can mock anything else but not the glorious race and nation of GOD.
2020-02-23 17:22
LOL
2020-02-23 17:36
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 09:35
#105
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United States kami917 
+1 copypasta worth the ban
2020-02-23 11:02
mens((
2020-02-23 09:35
#4
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Sweden GuMbUBBle 
they are so bad
2020-02-23 09:35
#66
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Norway FriggeK 
:) yes
2020-02-23 10:31
#5
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Qatar olaolakaka 
deserved after that aerial interview xaxaxa
2020-02-23 09:36
For how long? Rest of their lives? Whole team, not just Aerial? So for example Sergej must be punished too? Tell me.
2020-02-23 09:40
Deserved after all of the shit handling. For as long as they disband basically. All the best for sergej, but just fucking leave this lineup asap.
2020-02-23 10:07
#80
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Europe skharppi 
There's also one alternate timeline where they get their shit together, make this -aleksi +sunny shit work and people don't hate them too much. They fucked up aleksiB with contracts to get money for sunny. They talked shit in interviews, they hinted aleksiB was shit and allu was the true matermind. They hinted aleksiB was some troubled kid who can't work with others. They thought sunny alone would carry the team to win the majors. THEY FUCKED UP. IF they get their shit together people might like them again, but seems pretty damn unlikely.
2020-02-23 10:44
#106
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United States kami917 
+1 you couldn’t summarize it any better, these snakes are getting what they deserved
2020-02-23 11:04
#159
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Finland 27HM72 
+1
2020-02-23 13:05
#170
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Finland ribzz 
+1000
2020-02-23 15:26
Even if it worked with sunny I would dislike them. But obviously it doesnt and everyone knew that. Except ence apparently.
2020-02-23 17:07
#177
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United States dyzzi204 
+1
2020-02-23 17:10
#118
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Russia RIMJOBOB 
u are fakeflagger why would u want ur country most known esport organizatio to disband? like really? back to tier 99? fuck off fakeflag
2020-02-23 11:11
Because they have a trash lineup with thrash people in it. Ence management is absolutely trash for letting this happen and fuck themselves in their asses. Basically they dont deserve anything more lmao. Disbanding is the absolute best outcome for them.
2020-02-23 17:11
Trust me there are probably more ence haters than fans atm in Finland.
2020-02-23 17:17
What, so we should all support their fuckery just because they're Finnish? That's retarded, like literally something that mentally 14 year olds do.
2020-02-23 17:35
#46
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Qatar olaolakaka 
once a meme, always a meme learn to live with it, stop being pusi
2020-02-23 10:17
Aleksib told in an interview that aerial has apologized to him and it’s all good. The interview was so bad partly due to bad englando and very leading questions
2020-02-23 12:22
#167
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Qatar olaolakaka 
Good for them then
2020-02-23 15:06
well, being hated can get you into 2 places: 1. get a new drive for the game and prove everybody wrong (which is the best option) 2. stop playing and be a boosted ape. the problem is that if you have the drive to play and practice and still lose, you are getting emotionally crashed. (worst possible thing IMO) they do no deserve the hate they receive.
2020-02-23 09:36
On the contrary. Before escha nd every event they say "this will be the one. This will be the event to shut them up" and then they bo'b out just as poorly as in the last one. They are a joke. Each interview they make just makes it worse. If any of these players have any decensy elft they leave the sinking ship.
2020-02-23 10:41
#7
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Brazil schmoko 
says the guy who made thread named "woman are like toasters" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-02-23 09:36
Rofl
2020-02-23 10:15
What do you expect from a ence fan
2020-02-23 10:32
Well, give this guy a cookie!
2020-02-23 10:36
nt palestinian
2020-02-23 09:36
#10
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North America onionmesh 
never liked ence in particular, definitely hated the praise. all in all, they should take a fuckin break from cs. doing shittier than usual. not top 5, but def top 10 when they get their shit back together. dont hate ence mens, but dont love them
2020-02-23 09:39
jew talking
2020-02-23 09:39
#12
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Australia forsaken_exe 
The hate is well deserved. Absolutely useless roster, disband immediately. They kicked the best player for this. XD
2020-02-23 09:39
So for example Sergej deserves to get hated for the rest of his life also for some bullshit Aerial interview? For months, years, how many years?
2020-02-23 09:41
#15
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Australia forsaken_exe 
The hate for the roster put together is deserved. Especially allu, but sergej is only good player so idk why he is hated.
2020-02-23 09:42
No one hates sergej. People just hate ence. Sergej should leave this lineup asap, theres no future in it. Why waste time in it.
2020-02-23 10:10
#39
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France MarcoXY 
Cuz salary
2020-02-23 10:13
Not like other teams pay salary too. Altho his buyout is probably unreasonable.
2020-02-23 17:05
#151
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Australia forsaken_exe 
People hate sergej because he also wanted to kick aleksib.
2020-02-23 11:51
I wasnt know these details
2020-02-23 17:15
It was allu and sergej who wanted Aleksi out. Aerial just went on and spoke without any thought. allu and sergej are the true evil, Aerial is just stupid.
2020-02-23 10:53
#124
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Austria SplasJ 
Yeah allu douchebag with 0 aim
2020-02-23 11:17
Lol why would sergej have wanted that?
2020-02-23 17:04
Because sergej is just allu jr, who admires anything ally says or does and wants acceptance from this over aged middle school bully.
2020-02-23 17:15
Lmao
2020-02-23 17:16
#16
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Finland Hoitelia 
Everything started because they kicked aleksib
2020-02-23 09:43
They started doing worse before the kick but the kick just made it 10 times worse
2020-02-23 17:20
I strongly dislike jews, but this thread is 10/10
2020-02-23 09:50
KEKW
2020-02-23 10:00
#65
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Finland Hassu 
based
2020-02-23 10:31
cya
2020-02-23 17:36
#18
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World Beard43 
There is no "hate", they kicked their IGL and now they're terrible. It's such a ridiculous situation that it's actually funny. They were a solid top 3 team and they actually thought that it was better to kick the IGL for a 'better player' than to work a bit harder for longer to try to achieve #1. They're the meme team. When I say no hate I'm speaking generally btw, most people are just laughing at them because they're a joke. I have no doubt that there's the rare person who actually has some hate for them for whatever reason - all teams have that.
2020-02-23 09:51
#42
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France MarcoXY 
+1 boi
2020-02-23 10:14
#91
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United States Contii 
++++++++++++++++++++ this
2020-02-23 10:52
+1 true
2020-02-23 10:54
I don't think it's funny anymore. I hated the meme ENCE and I hated their fans when they finally became good. Then AleksiB showed us it wasn't a fluke and even a player like xSeven can play in a Major final. But now it is too long gone and it doesn't look like anyone in ENCE will even learn anything from this horrible mistake.
2020-02-23 10:58
#109
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United States kami917 
+1
2020-02-23 11:07
this
2020-02-23 11:30
+1 Of course i want ENCE to succeed and win tournaments but i dont cheer for them anymore and even if they won and received the glory again i'd still think kicking aleksib in that fashion was a terrible move
2020-02-23 19:16
"Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this" yea they totally play for us and not for money lul
2020-02-23 09:50
xddd
2020-02-23 10:32
#20
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Europe laczyslaw 
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 09:50
Hate until they kick allu
2020-02-23 09:52
#125
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Austria SplasJ 
+1
2020-02-23 11:18
#22
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China HLTVMASTR 
they keep shitting on aleksib, they keep doing worse than aleksib serves them right
2020-02-23 09:52
#23
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Sweden Goudi 
Ence the org that dont know how important a good IGL is xD LMFAO
2020-02-23 09:53
do u even realize what they getting hated for?
2020-02-23 09:56
#29
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Finland iBait 
Being too good and destroying NaVi in a Major semifinal?
2020-02-23 10:05
name checks out
2020-02-23 10:11
what a destroy 2-1 and 16-14 16-14 on two maps. but being destroyed by astralis 1-14 is the real shit OMEGALUL.
2020-02-23 10:12
#40
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Finland iBait 
hltv.org/matches/2332821/astralis-vs-enc.. S1mple too bad to ever even 2-0 Kustralis.
2020-02-23 10:16
nice bait bro but even furia beat blastralis in that period. but what about that? hltv.org/matches/2335647/ence-vs-renegad.. they cant do shit on major without fluke. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-02-23 10:16
#50
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Finland iBait 
Furia never 2-0'd Kustralis, just like NaVi never has. NaVi will never win a major cuz s1mple chokes too bad axaxaxax hltv.org/matches/2335649/nrg-vs-natus-vi..
2020-02-23 10:18
why do you even have og flair? you are obviously a delusional ence fan.
2020-02-23 10:20
#56
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Finland iBait 
Why do you have an European flag when you're obviously a delusional CIS fan?
2020-02-23 10:25
>being og fan >being flukence fan pick one kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-02-23 10:25
#58
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Finland iBait 
Why? I'll rather pick 2.
2020-02-23 10:26
2020-02-23 10:27
#63
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Finland iBait 
Lul rigged tournament, NaVi is sponsored by GG.BET so obviously they were going to make the final. Also, NBK was calling for OG's CT side. Enough said.
2020-02-23 10:31
nice excuses baiter kkkkkkkk
2020-02-23 10:31
#70
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Finland iBait 
Nice excuses s0mple fanboy kkkkkkk
2020-02-23 10:39
0/8 bait
2020-02-23 10:33
#76
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Finland iBait 
0/16
2020-02-23 10:36
#99
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Sweden Mejtz 
they said only Aleksi was calling
2020-02-23 10:58
#100
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Finland iBait 
They were still splitting the IGLing in ICE Challenge, they changed the role back to Aleksi during their bootcamp before Blast.
2020-02-23 11:01
#171
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Sweden Mejtz 
y
2020-02-23 15:30
2020-02-23 10:18
#54
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Finland iBait 
At least they made it to the final lul, ENCE was in 4 grand finals in 2019 while "the best player in the world" was in 1 axaxa.
2020-02-23 10:24
"at least they made it to the final" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk for what? being destroyed 16-3 16-2 . kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-02-23 10:26
#61
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Finland iBait 
hltv.org/matches/2326427/natus-vincere-v.. Last good result NaVi had was 2 years ago, and even then they got st0mped.
2020-02-23 10:29
at least not 1-14 like ence kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-02-23 10:29
#73
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Finland iBait 
Name does not check out
2020-02-23 10:33
#26
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Turkey DebbSoray 
they deserve everything that happened to them. First of all did they think about how aleksib feel? Did they know aleksib is a human too. Other than that they kicked their igl for fire power (!). Lol. of course people gonna hate Ence. #Fun4Ence
2020-02-23 09:59
agree
2020-02-23 10:02
#30
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Finland kimmob0b 
dont fix what's not broken. The roster change wasn't needed. the fact that they (mostly aerial) were so arrogant about the change and snaking aleksib on that interview. if that had never happened i would still be a fan of them.
2020-02-23 10:04
#88
Poland joeb 
Do you have the interview link?
2020-02-23 10:49
Thx
2020-02-23 11:29
#31
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Netherlands Armipotent 
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 10:06
hltv.org/news/27868/aerial-we-want-to-be.. sajkldfahsdfljasdkfl retarded team
2020-02-23 10:08
#34
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Denmark mainz 
2020-02-23 10:10
lmao
2020-02-23 17:39
#36
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China KoreanFan 
> kicking your IGL who got the team into Major final > replacing him with a starplayer, now playing trash pick both
2020-02-23 10:11
actually it was a fluke. after that major navi and liquid destroyed ence multiple times.
2020-02-23 10:14
#90
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China KoreanFan 
I mean they all played rly well at Katowice, but perhaps it was just a fluke. And Aleksi is a good IGL nevertheless.
2020-02-23 10:52
#44
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Finland HerraX 
true
2020-02-23 10:16
>be ence >have only 1 player that speaks english >having him do every interview >he becomes fan-favorite >he happens to be igl >kick him >suck xD
2020-02-23 10:17
#51
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Netherlands bbyNator 
How the hell you people hate BIG so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating BIG makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 10:19
Imagine losing against MIBR in 2020 lmao
2020-02-23 10:21
+1 its a 5 vs 4 with kng lol
2020-02-23 10:34
This just shows how shitty the new ENCE is. Losing Overpass and nuke to TACO and meyern ... OMEGALUL
2020-02-23 17:21
Aleksib has feelings too but that didn't stop these snakes from talking shit publicly.
2020-02-23 10:22
#82
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France kyojiNs 
+10000
2020-02-23 10:46
#161
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Finland 27HM72 
Talking shit was the thing for me. I don’t hate them, though. Resent perhaps, and I sympathise with sergej for instance. Hate is a strong word.
2020-02-23 13:10
Yeah sergej doesn't seem to have done anything wrong. He deserves a better team.
2020-02-23 19:07
+1 for Hezekiel_Keepo, you have my support
2020-02-23 10:30
#71
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Bulgaria cuddleslut 
Delusional. Their paycheck is their real motivation
2020-02-23 10:33
#77
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United Kingdom h4m 
Ence should disband no more ez
2020-02-23 10:39
#79
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France kyojiNs 
ENCE so bad , they should disband and deserve that hate because they didn't care about aleksib's feelings as a person when they backstabbed him on interviews. Deserved for hate , deserved for those bad results , that's just karma hitting up right here. I guess it'll stop when they will finally disband.
2020-02-23 10:46
You'll enjoy comment #86
2020-02-23 10:50
The price of fame...
2020-02-23 10:45
Wanna talk about a team that get alot of hate? Look at my flair and let the wheelchair memes till. And Ence gets alot of flag for kicking Aleksib and falling to be adults about it
2020-02-23 10:46
#85
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France kyojiNs 
Actually I like North even if Kjaerbye went full asshole backstabbing Astralis, I think he has had enough seeing Astralis pulling up 3 more majors without him
2020-02-23 10:48
Kjaerbye got kinda forced by the management to backstab, but people tend to ignore that fact and just hate on kjaerbye
2020-02-23 11:16
#128
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France kyojiNs 
Well he got attracted by the salary of North, wich is understandable , we would all do that , XANTARES did the same going to big
2020-02-23 11:19
He won way more in Astralis than he was promised in North, he said he wanted to change to be more of a star player
2020-02-23 12:14
#84
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China CoVid19_2K 
they did the worst rooster move in history so yes
2020-02-23 10:46
It's so retarded that it's not excusable +1
2020-02-23 17:23
ENCE hate is deserved and here's why. A first thing to note is that the community largely enjoyed AleksiB and were rooting for him to go A sometimes maybe B. After the kick, ENCE were all talking shit about and downplaying how much AleksiB did in the team, despite still using a bunch of his strats. Allu and sunny aren't really doing much right when it comes to in game leading. This long after kicking your IGL, you should at least have a new playbook. Most teams don't run the same shit after 3/4 months as they understand you need new strats or you get stale and teams can easily read you, that's why teams like Furia and Avangar couldn't stay in the top 5 after their success. clips.twitch.tv/SwissPoliteDumplingsOpie.. They weren't professional enough to actually keep playing with him and work through or put aside any personal problems. hltv.org/news/27868/aerial-we-want-to-be.. They kicked their IGL and now lack any kind of fundementals or clear leadership and tactics. Their reasoning for kicking AleksiB was that they wanted more firepower. How about they kick xseven or aerial because statistically speaking, AleksiB was better than BOTH of them at big events in 2019, so that firepower angle doesn't measure up against the stats. Combine that with the fact he's also your fucking in game leader at the same time, and you start to wonder why ENCE didn't kick one of the 2 lowest performers for an upgrade. Most of the community wanted to see sunny in ENCE at one point, but not at the expense of AleksiB. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9816/Alek.. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9816/Alek.. As for them saying they want to be the best team in the world, how are you gonna do that if you don't have a half decent fucking IGL anymore? ENCE is wasting sergeJ's potential as well as that of sunny and even allu. They'd be fine if they actually sat down and restructured the team, kicked one of the bots xseven or aerial, and as soon as they realise they're playing like dog shit, it's suddenly all about "having fun and being ready for 2020" instead of being the number 1 team in the world. Come on, get your fucking story straight ENCE. Kicking a player is with upgrades in mind is fine, it takes balls to do that, especially if you were a solid team to begin with. If you did it in anything resembling a civil manner, there wouldn't be any hate. Talking shit afterwards, aiming so high and not delivering on it or even getting close to it, and then changing your whole narrative about your goals, all while not admitting you fucked up is just fucking shameless and pathetic. That's why people are hating on ENCE. TLDR: The kick isn't the biggest reason for hate, it's how badly ENCE dealt with it afterwards combined with the shit they talked and goals they set out, which they will never deliver on. Hate is not deserved for the kick, but how they dealt with it.
2020-02-23 10:49
#108
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France kyojiNs 
+1 You Sir are the reason I still enjoy visiting hltv daily , those are straight facts! Nice research and argumentation btw!
2020-02-23 11:05
hahah thanks man, just wanted to actually provide some context and evidence for why ENCE deserves the hate. Maybe everyone could dial it back a bit because at the end of the day they are people. But, after what they did and how OG looks primed to succeed, it's just gonna get worse. OG beating a top 5 team in two bo3 series while ENCE are losing to mibr. Gonna be honest with you, I'm very happy to see this lol
2020-02-23 11:07
#116
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France kyojiNs 
I'll be honest with you as well , seeing aleksib destroying ENCE on icechallenge was a feeling I loved haha
2020-02-23 11:11
Dude, almost everyone was excited for that game, I remember watching it and cheering like fucking Jason Lake every time OG won a round xd
2020-02-23 11:11
#132
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France kyojiNs 
XDDD , I had goosebumps on aleksib clutchs! ( But I haven't been in Jason Lake mode , I just wait for g2 or Vitality to play to go this way xD)
2020-02-23 11:21
man, G2 are looking good, and for KennyS' sake, I hope they can become a proper competitor for trophies. I always thought vitality bringing in shox would make them worse in terms of him trying to take the IGL from Alex. I never expected that he'd just be shit and not frag.
2020-02-23 11:23
#155
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France kyojiNs 
Well I think Vitality isn't as promising as G2 , even tho they have more potential I'm not sure they can make it to a major with this 5 (even if I love every single players in this team) About G2 I think nexa and huNter brought so much motivation up for kenny to finally work his ass off again and it really pays off. People may not agree but from what I've seen from kenny at blast ( he has more maturity, his experience avoid him stupid peeks ) and that + his insane flicks , If he continues getting back to his prime level with the whole experience he learnt , I assume he's going to be the best sniper in the world again. Also their potential as a team is insane since their chemistry is looking awesome , on their demos I saw a very nice teamplay I could barely see on vitality or FaZe for example, their revenge system is really on point. I vouch for G2 to be what they deserve to be , a top 3 solid team in the world, contender for a major tittle
2020-02-23 12:37
Hopefully they get to a top 3 team. If this roster doesn't get there in the next 6 months, I think they're 1 or 2 roster moves away from being there. The blast interviews with KennyS are really promising stuff, with him explaining how he's learning from other awpers as well as developing his own playstyle. It looks like he's aiming to be more of a complete player, he recognises that he's naturally good at the game, but needs the hard work as well and that's what he's putting in. Kind of similar to k0nfig in that regard then
2020-02-23 13:00
#113
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Poland rude_wredne 
i remember this documentary (?) where allu said something in finnish about astralis which roughly translates to "pissTralis" and community was praising allu for it "ALLU FUNNY OMG WHAT A GOD PISSTRALIS HH@H@H@" look at this guy now lol
2020-02-23 11:08
I would say the hate is a combination of what you said, not releasing a full story on why they Kicked AleksiB and that thry don't seem to learn from their mistakes anymore.
2020-02-23 11:11
A full story and public apology to AleksiB for the shit talking is really needed if ENCE want any kind of redemption from the community
2020-02-23 11:12
We don't know yet if an apology is necessary. According to multiple sources something happened between AleksiB and the rest of the team. But neither he nor the Org wanna say what happened.
2020-02-23 11:20
I mean regardless of what happened between them it looks bad for ENCE. ENCE rise up, AleksiB does most of the interviews and becomes a fan favourite The community sees one of their favourite players get kicked. The ENCE players all talk shit while AleksiB stays quiet ENCE get horribly shit to the point that they're losing to mibr in DH Opens OG start looking good beating a top 5 team twice in a week. AleksiB claims they still use 70% of his strats, months after Aerial mentions this: "With Aleksib we just tried to play default and did the same executes all over again, so that's how it's different with allu - always trying something new" (source: hltv.org/news/27868/aerial-we-want-to-be..) AleksiB also never wished anything bad upon ENCE publicly in interviews etc while ENCE talk shit and use his strats. So using the media we have available as well as community perception, AleksiB comes across as the good guy in all of this while ENCE just look like cunts. An apology would definitely help with their public image even if it isn't necessary.
2020-02-23 11:33
I have heard DeKay and Thorin mentioning that AleksiB did something to his teammates that makes the cut, perhaps excessive, but understandable. But as long as we never get what happened it just will seem stupid. And it doesn't help with ENCE players and Org coming out every event saying "this is it, this is the one" and then flunk out.
2020-02-23 17:00
Very well written. Agree 100%
2020-02-23 17:24
#87
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Russia Elvem 
Ence is Gambit version 2.0 Absolutly the same way of kicking igl and then sucking
2020-02-23 10:49
Zeus left to join Navi because his drunkard paycheque stealing friend Kane was kicked from Gambit for being a shit coach. AleksiB was backstabbed while ENCE kept talking shit about him. You ever notice a trend of kicking an IGL then sucking for a long period of time? Gambit FaZe (finally recovering thanks to Cold secondary calling) Ence NiP fell off even harder after they kicked xizt, peaking at number 4 before they brought in Dennis Any more teams you can think of? I'm sure there's more examples
2020-02-23 10:58
#101
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Russia Elvem 
Gambit had really tought situation even before the Major in Krakow,they also were talking a lot of shit about each others. U can watch some Zeus s vlogs with eng subtitles.
2020-02-23 11:01
I can imagine it was a shitshow there. I'll give the vlogs a watch
2020-02-23 11:02
GamerLegion: ranked 21 in the world, beat Vitality and Furia and had multiple close games against G2. Continually won smaller events and climbed the rankings, got as much prize money as NiP... Then kick Ex6TenZ
2020-02-23 11:08
Oh yeah Also forgot that Fnatic kicked Golden after winning tournaments with him. Excited to see what this Fnatic can do again with golden at the helm on a more permanent basis, rooting for them with ya :D
2020-02-23 11:10
Yeah, the Golden benching was awful. I actually made a joke here on HLTV about ENCE doing more or less like Fnatic did. Kicking important role players for firepower and experience just to get worse. Sadly can't find it anymore.
2020-02-23 11:12
I honestly didn't expect fnatic to kick him the first time, at least they learnt their lesson when they picked up xizt and realised the value of Golden.
2020-02-23 11:13
Another one is North and everything they did after picking up Kjaerbye, he was the only good move they've made in the last god knows how long
2020-02-23 11:18
Yeah, MSL dropped after beating Astralis twice in BO3
2020-02-23 11:20
They get what they fucking deserve! They brought in needle junkie sunny over Aleksib. They deserve all the bad things they get.
2020-02-23 10:55
#96
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Finland Grograman 
How the hell you people hate Team Liquid so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating Team Liquid makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 10:57
#98
xseveN | 
Finland Ulib0b 
the hate is unreal ngl. Bit too much i would say.
2020-02-23 10:58
#86
2020-02-23 11:02
#102
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Europe zhamp 
who?
2020-02-23 11:01
#107
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Germany Shackrag 
the ence hate is not unreal. else it wouldnt exist
2020-02-23 11:05
#114
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Iran poopmod 
deserved after kicking igl then sucking ass
2020-02-23 11:10
they wanted this instead of winning
2020-02-23 11:18
#131
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France RAINIZK 
shut up we are just having fun like ence
2020-02-23 11:21
0/8
2020-02-23 11:22
i don't need to hate someone to laugh at them
2020-02-23 11:23
#136
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Poland Speltz 
we all laughed at Kjaerbye, same with ence :/
2020-02-23 11:26
I like ence its very nice team, but theyre missing a true leader and u can see it no one calls anything either so
2020-02-23 11:27
#138
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Finland Emvi 
They deserve the hate, but they are humans yes. I imagine they're depressed as shit, losing moti. Ence is dead with this roster. Maybe if Valve clears Jamppi they can bring him in + get an actual IGL, try out sAw or smth.. dno at this point. It's pretty sad from Finnish fans perspective too, first time in csgo theres a real team, hard work starting from absolutely nothing, the grind, all the memes, the hype, the excitement, like never before seen levels in finland. Everyones a fan, who could not be. Even when they failed at cologne or whatever everyones supporting 100%. Real fanbase, like a phenomenon. And then ence decides to throw it all in the trash in the shittiest way because fuck it
2020-02-23 11:28
#144
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United States stephcurry30 
no aug no ence
2020-02-23 11:37
Good post. I rather like Ence, I am from the antipodes - NZ to be precise. Yet I feel you have gone on a bit of a rant. I support Evil Geniuses, Renegades and a couple of others. In terms of history I think Faze should have kept Allu. But still this is all a cut-throat business and I for one do not understand Ence hate.
2020-02-23 11:39
Don't agree about some gays talking like shit about the "players", cuz just their bad and no one need to care about that. But for the "Team" ENCE, they absolutely deserved. I just wanna say disband ffs with mibr. They have to split.
2020-02-23 11:42
#147
flusha | 
Europe Telsek 
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 11:44
#156
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
oh u cpied op? so funny and original mens)) haha
2020-02-23 12:56
You think they actually care about some toxic kids on HLTV? they dont even read these shit comments
2020-02-23 11:44
#149
jks | 
Europe Zajda 
just disband and everyone will be happy. Cs theyre showing is absolute trash
2020-02-23 11:44
#150
ropz | 
Spain JLenny47 
I guess ence forgot that aleksib is a human and shouldve been supportive instead of dumping him... Jesus christ are you actually retarded? NO seriously. If you don't understand the reasons for the crowd to hate on a tier1 team that makes one fucking roster move and now its a miracle for them to win a map in tier 3 scene?
2020-02-23 11:46
#152
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Finland oopee71 
1. First, ENCE or any professional team doesn't play for the hltv, twitch or any other community. 2. Second, for me, it was more like a statement towards ENCE’s organisation to start supporting OG. I don’t want to support any team that acts so unprofessionally and unethically. I don’t even care if ENCE drops from the biggest tournaments now. They just don't deserve it playing- and organisation-wise.
2020-02-23 11:55
Right on point.
2020-02-23 17:26
#158
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Switzerland Jeded 
The people who hate ence now will be the same people praising them when they get back to top 5
2020-02-23 13:03
#162
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Finland Karppanator 
They won't get back to top 5 with this lineup
2020-02-23 13:24
#164
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Switzerland Jeded 
They have the talent, all they need is the motivation
2020-02-23 13:34
fuck off you illegitimate state they are a shit team with fans worse than brazilians when LG/SK were in their prime, even when ence were at their "best" they were still garbage and overrated
2020-02-23 13:07
#163
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Finland Cucumber)) 
Agreed
2020-02-23 13:31
#165
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Finland Fzk_ 
The thing is, during their Major run they seemed to be severely outgunned. The only thing keeping them in the game was their precise executes, efficient trading and peeking with popflashes. Most 1vs1 duels they just straight out lost. It wasn't just AleksiB who, at the time, could not match the 'firepower'-requirement, it was the entire team, with perhaps the exception of Allu and whomever else happened to light up that day. What definitely kept them in the game was the good fundamental CS that they played as a team. Back then, I remember being amazed by the midround calling, executes that seemed to execute like clockwork, some retakes on Train and of course anti-stratting the bigger teams. Right now, ENCE seems to be lacking in all but the fragging department, they can win some duels, but I would not call it 'firepower'. Until they can fix their issues with the fundamental CS, they will be the top50 -team they are right now. Also, until Twista, Allu and Natu just admit that they made a poo-poo, even if it was with the best intentions for long-term success, they'll just have to accept that feedback, or fix the issues and start producing results. Prove us wrong, peace.
2020-02-23 13:39
#168
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Finland oopee71 
+1 You are deep in understanding their success and current problems. I would emphasize their communication problems. To me, it seems that aleksib was able to bring positive energy, keep the atmosphere high and competitive. If there is at least one energetic and talkative guy in the team (even better if he is an IGL), then the whole team speaks more and executes more precisely. Allu is slightly egocentric introvert who likes to keep things simple and hates too analytical stuff. It can be easily noticed from the BTS videos that their team is full of laconic and uncommunicative persons and they are only fueling negative energy. Their problems lie deep in their personalities and thus it seems that they can't solve their problems anymore without making changes to their lineup.
2020-02-23 15:18
#169
ropz | 
Poland Muffled 
+1
2020-02-23 15:20
tell them to play how pros do not like 5 silvers
2020-02-23 13:45
flair checks out
2020-02-23 15:31
I remember watching interview with taz he said "we were top 3 but it wasnt enough for us", I think it was similar with ence. They were top 8 or something like that and that was not enough for them. They feel they can do better and changing things. Winners mentality, thats why they are playing $100k tournaments
2020-02-23 17:18
2020-02-23 17:32
I don't hate the whole ENCE. Just Allu and Aerial. Also the organisation it self
2020-02-23 17:22
#190
fnx | 
Finland HekeH 
Truu
2020-02-23 17:23
#193
syrsoN | 
Germany PeKay 
Aleksib has Feelings too guess they didnt care
2020-02-23 17:27
#194
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Slovakia itsab8 
I hope they disband 0/8
2020-02-23 17:32
#196
huNter- | 
Korea Jew2K 
If the community is so shit like u say it is, and the players arent 70 iq nova like we are as u say so, why would they even care about us?
2020-02-23 17:34
0/8
2020-02-23 17:37
#201
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India St3elSh0t 
Those snakes deserve it lmao Booting aleksib in this way is pure treachery
2020-02-23 17:37
#202
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Europe letqpena 
You're right, they don't deserve the hate, but they do deserve the critique for making a cash grab by selling AleksiB.
2020-02-23 17:38
0/8
2020-02-23 17:44
#205
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North America 007DBR9 
silver thank you very much
2020-02-23 17:46
Its the interviews and comments about aleksib they made that makes me (and probs many others) dislike them, obviously along side with all the shitty stuff they did with aleksib’s benching lol. Had they not been so stupid with their comments that were basically pure dissing towards aleksib it would be whole different scenario lol.
2020-02-23 17:46
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 19:09
#209
OK | 
Finland Ult1Mat3 
They literally need a new IGL and then the problem maybe can be solved
2020-02-23 19:10
#210
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Finland LeksaBoi 
+1
2020-02-23 19:10
#211
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North America Boombl4_2Fat 
LMAO NT X7, WE KNOW ITS YOU XD
2020-02-23 19:11
#212
Aleksib | 
Egypt Tywin 
hahaha. nt allu
2020-02-23 19:12
How the hell you people hate ENCE so much. Do you idiots realize these guys are people too? Ever wonder how it feels when you shit on them for MONTHS. Would you have any motivation to practice or play for community like this? Teenage boys (99% of you) are dumb and vicious bandwagoners. Hating ENCE makes you feel like you belong to a group, that's all your small teenager lizard brain thinks about, bandwagoning with the most popular opinion. You are nothing more than dumb. Little. Kids. Stop hating, start being supportive. Players are only people and they have feelings. But perhaps it's too much for your gold nova 70 iq brain.
2020-02-23 19:12
#214
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Netherlands Alvinvl 
+1
2020-02-23 19:12
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