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Ok just to make sure because I see a lot of people (probably newfags) that don't even know how tier work these days Which teams do you think are tier1 atm?
2020-02-26 14:13
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#1
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Australia |bruh| 
not 100T for sure
2020-02-26 14:13
#4
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Denmark VladisfactioN 
I don't agree
2020-02-26 14:14
#8
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Australia |bruh| 
they got 5 rounds against g2, they are currently in a rough spot
2020-02-26 14:15
37.5% winrate past 3 months
2020-02-26 14:15
#60
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Finland Miroyev 
I think they were tier 1 team at the end of last year but gotta show something more atm to be one
2020-02-26 14:30
#115
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United States caliprep 
lmfao, 100T are not tier 1.
2020-02-27 00:00
Well is you think EG is T1, then 100T should be
2020-02-27 16:39
#6
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Australia opzy 
100t are the worst t1 team imo
2020-02-26 14:15
#14
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Denmark VladisfactioN 
But they just beat Coronavirus
2020-02-26 14:16
who is ranked #29
2020-02-26 14:21
#34
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Denmark VladisfactioN 
Coronavirus m8
2020-02-26 14:22
#78
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Australia jonyling 
They're borderline t1/t2, there playing either eg or liquid soon so if they manage to beat 1 of them, they should be back to t1
2020-02-26 14:41
oof they good again.
2020-02-27 23:49
#182
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Australia |bruh| 
i shouldn't of doubted them man..
2020-02-28 04:27
How about you start by stating which you think are T1.
2020-02-26 14:14
"Which teams do you think are tier1 atm?" ???
2020-02-26 14:15
Do you mean him or "you" as in others
2020-02-26 14:15
#16
NiKo | 
Brazil okacomp 
You should go back to school bro
2020-02-26 14:17
U ok bro?
2020-02-26 14:18
#92
NiKo | 
Brazil okacomp 
Im sad bro
2020-02-26 15:37
Aw man I hope you will get better <3
2020-02-26 15:39
+1. Agree. A person that starts with implying 'you tell me first so I can judge you', isn't actually looking for consensus. That person is a troll.
2020-02-26 14:25
lol I'm having an argument with some dude and we clearly don't have the same definition of tier1, thats why I asked to see what most people think, its like a poll chill out dude
2020-02-26 14:35
Fair enough. Why didn't you put that in the post then? 1. Tiers are mostly subjective. 2. The person that started talking about 'Tiers' was Thoorin, so he's probably the authority on what constitutes a tier. 3. My criteria is fairly straightforward: a. If they're getting invites to Premier events and have beaten others also invited (esp. in Bo3), they're Tier 1. b. If they're invited to Premier events but have almost no chance of getting to playoffs, or have to fight to qualify for Premier events, they're Tier 2. c. If most of their matches are in the MDL with occasional forays into Premier events, they're Tier 3. d. Those that never make it out of MDL are Tier 4. 3. That roughly ("generally") equates more or less to T1=top 10, T2=11-30, T3=30-40/50, etc.
2020-02-26 14:54
+123
2020-02-26 15:39
#104
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Finland KuKkaa 
+1
2020-02-26 22:03
BUG T3 😎😎😎😎
2020-02-26 22:07
#106
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Denmark Menterx 
+1
2020-02-26 22:10
#108
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France FanchD 
+1
2020-02-26 22:22
#148
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
+1
2020-02-27 16:42
#172
nitr0 | 
United States H4wkx 
+1
2020-02-27 23:30
#208
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Europe H1P_STER 
+1
2020-03-08 21:59
#3
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Guatemala Nicaraqua 
Astralis Mouz Fnatic Vitality Faze Na'Vi G2 Liquid EG
2020-02-26 14:14
Ok so you place teams with huge difference of achievement and results in the same tier, interesting
2020-02-26 14:17
#24
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Guatemala Nicaraqua 
ok so you ask a question to judge everyone without answering it yourself
2020-02-26 14:19
I don't judge, just wanted to have some opinions dont be on the defensive like this
2020-02-26 14:28
#35
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Finland pokka 
we can't say what tier 1 is if we don't know how many tiers there are
2020-02-26 14:22
#147
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
99 everyone knows that *note, there are no tiers between 6-98 So you pretty much are like T1-T4 or T99 to me, but if I am in a nice mood I call a shit team T5 instead of T99
2020-02-27 16:42
XD
2020-02-29 16:17
#38
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
astralis mouz is tier 1 at least rn, fnatic is really close the rest are really high tier 2 or really low tier 1 depending on how you look at it. its safe to say that astralis mouz and fnatic are have a pretty good lead tho
2020-02-26 14:23
That I agree, Astralis/mouz/fnatic are just a tier above everyone else in therm of consistency and results that's for sure, you can't place them in the same tier as other teams that wouldn't be fair
2020-02-26 14:28
#170
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Finland cuntycorn 
Mouz overrated af. Yeah I know, they've won quite many events but those have been mostly against shit opponents. My tier 1: current top9 Criteria: have a decent shot to win tournaments
2020-02-27 23:23
#88
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Slovakia xaboff 
+1 100% agree
2020-02-26 15:01
#7
valde | 
Denmark QBE_ 
Top9 atm are at least tier 1 imo.
2020-02-26 14:15
Astralis, Liquid, maybe fnatic Mouz is too early to say, not vitality until they replace the 3 bots, EG too inconsistant 100T top 1, did you see how they beat Tyloo OMG!
2020-02-26 14:15
#151
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
+1 I cannot put Vitality, EG, or 100T into my T1. In past months maybe I could have, but right now Vitality looks like it is all Zywoo and Alex and actually RpK doesn't even look that bad at times but shox is sooo bad now and so is apex. 100T and EG were T1 in 2019 but now they can't fight there way out of a paper bag so they are definitely T2 now
2020-02-27 16:44
#10
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Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
Not Navi for sure
2020-02-26 14:15
#56
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
traitor
2020-02-26 14:28
#75
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Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
realist
2020-02-26 14:35
Imagine saying that. Navi has won this year against a lot of good teams like vitality and astralis (which are definetly tier 1). They re playing 3rd event this year and they either won that tournament or where in the final
2020-02-27 13:04
#129
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Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
It was more of a bait but on the other hand every team is rusty after vacations and don't know how navi's new roster plays so it's harder to anti strat them. Navi are 1.5 tier as for now and need to prove themselves more after the year of sucking balls.
2020-02-27 14:13
#153
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
Navi is tier 1 IMO but they are kind of like where 100T and EG were last year when they were T1, if they lose much they will become T2 just like 100T and EG did.
2020-02-27 16:45
Probably the teams in Top 10, and maybe some of them not really T1 because of flukes
2020-02-26 14:15
london conspiracy, flipside, astana dragons, lgb, verygames
2020-02-26 14:16
#17
twist | 
Sweden FL4XY 
Why not mythic
2020-02-26 14:17
they aren't t1
2020-02-26 14:18
#21
twist | 
Sweden FL4XY 
they are above tier 1
2020-02-26 14:18
#18
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Australia TeBo 
T1: Astralis, Mouz, Fnatic, Liquid, NaVi, G2 T1.5: EG, Vitality, FaZe, 100T, NiP T2: Mad Lions, MiBR, C9, Renegades, CompLexity, OG, VP T2.5: ForZe, Heroic, Godsent, ENCE, BIG, Gen.G, North, TyLoo everyone else is irrelevant
2020-02-26 14:17
#23
nukkye | 
Europe zmjtvca 
big 2.5? okay dudeeee
2020-02-26 14:19
#27
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Poland rude_wredne 
maybe swap VP wit BIG
2020-02-26 14:20
#46
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
big tier 4
2020-02-26 14:26
Theyre better than tier 3 teams nt
2020-02-26 14:29
#69
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Poland rude_wredne 
tier 4 teams are probably some faceit teams like mythic. Big isnt relevant right now but to say they are tier 4 is harsh
2020-02-26 14:33
#154
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
yeah this guys ratings are delusional. BIG is so much better than VP right now, VP looks pretty horrible, the only thing thing they are better than is the old VP roster. MIBR and C9 are only T2 because of their big orgs and big invites, but they honestly are playing worse than teams like BIG, GenG, Mad Lions, Complexity, OG so this really show fan bias. The fact ENCE is 2.5 is also by name only, they are like Tier99 at this point and are total trash without aleksiB. TLDR #18 is the worst Tier Ranking post I have seen on HLTV in 2.5 years
2020-02-27 16:48
Theyre doing good this year so we can call them 2.5 I think
2020-02-26 14:29
#155
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
that makes tons of sense! C9 and MIBR are doing even better, so we call them 2 and not 2.5! Oh wait....that isn't true LOLOLOL. There is no point justifying #18's ranking they are the most trash I have ever seen. You are better off making your own than explaining his made up trash tiers.
2020-02-27 16:49
#26
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Turkey ok4N__ 
Im sure BiG and Gen G >>> your all T2 teams
2020-02-26 14:20
#30
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Australia TeBo 
BIG & Gen.G need to play against the big bois to get a better understanding of where they're at.
2020-02-26 14:21
#39
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Turkey ok4N__ 
What did your T2 teams against big bois?
2020-02-26 14:24
#45
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Australia TeBo 
attend events along side them & not get completely destroyed. I highly doubt BIG or Gen.G would beat any t1 team. Plus you cant say they're at the same level based off one tournament they played in which they were both on home soil.
2020-02-26 14:26
#53
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Turkey ok4N__ 
I never said they are T1 or T1.5 but Im sure They r better than Your T2 list
2020-02-26 14:28
#117
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United States caliprep 
Getting invited doesn't count. Any team can get invited, or play through a minor and get in. Gen.G wouldn't get their asses handed to them like 100T
2020-02-27 00:05
#156
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
that might be true, but VP, MIBR, C9 are all equally bad if not worse. I would pick BIG and GenG to beat all those teams right now in current form.
2020-02-27 16:51
#31
daps | 
North America JC_123 
+1
2020-02-26 14:21
MIBR over Gen.G? Who is your dealer?
2020-02-26 14:23
#37
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Australia TeBo 
#30
2020-02-26 14:23
And mibr and c9 have played against big boys and shown that they are tier2? Mibr placed 5-6th in the same event Gen.G just won recently
2020-02-26 14:31
#72
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Australia TeBo 
MiBR are always competitive in t1 they just don't win & C9 were promising against Astralis. BIG & Gen.G have never played against a top 10 team with their current rosters so i can't say for sure they're definitely better yet.
2020-02-26 14:34
MIBR always competetive in t1? They havent been competetive in t1 in like a year
2020-02-26 14:41
#158
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
exactly....if we are talking about ORG quality, MIBR is T1, they are 1 of the richest biggest known orgs in the world, but if we are talking about CSGO tiers, they are T3 at best right now. Anyone using HLTV rankings only to make their tiers is a moron, that might work for T1 but after that it does not work. teams get points simply for being invited to top events, so if a team used to be good but now is shit, they will hold a top 30 ranking for some time as long as they get invited to top events and beat some good teams 1/5th of the time and lose the rest and beat some trash teams to scrape up wins
2020-02-27 16:53
#48
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Finland PsyChoPatHH 
nip really should be at t2 since they have only beat c9 and mibr in the last 2 months and have gotten abused by everyone else if they manage to beat navi convincingly you could consider putting them at t1.5 but even then it could be a fluke
2020-02-26 14:26
#52
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Australia TeBo 
they had a close game with Vitality so i think they would beat every team in t2 quite comfortably.
2020-02-26 14:28
#65
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Finland PsyChoPatHH 
teams such as og complexity and mad lions would have a good chance of beating nip the only teams in t2 that i cant see beating nip under any circumstances are c9 (like we saw yesterday they dont have the map pool) and renegades since they somehow lack firepower and tactics more than nip
2020-02-26 14:32
#160
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
I agree. NiP at T2 makes sense to me. VP at T2 makes absolutely no sense. Vitality is overrated until the shuffle their roster because shox and apex are utter trash. Vitality is like Navi before they got perfecto and boombI4 they might upset some good teams but they never will be a consistent top team with this roster.
2020-02-27 16:55
#161
vilga | 
Canada PwnNewb 
losing to Vitality isn't the mark of a great team
2020-02-27 16:55
Nip tier 4 team
2020-02-27 14:14
#133
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Lithuania SiTyGas 
GenG beat complexity and furia which have beaten complexity as well, but you put com,plexity tier2 and GenG tier 2.5?
2020-02-27 14:19
there probably isnt any official definition of tiers so it depends on point of view. for some people t1=1-10, t2=11-20 etc but for me t1 teams are teams that are consistently reaching semi+ in big events and are one of the favourite for titles
2020-02-26 14:20
I agree with your definition of tier 1 imo you can't place G2 who never won a bo3 against a championship contender or even made it far at a tier1 tournament in the same tier as mouz/astralis and fnatic for exemple, that would be bullshit
2020-02-26 14:31
The problem is with people is that they get mixed up with tiers and how good a team is. For example most analyst with say the top 10 teams are tier 1. But what they mixing up is how good a team is, so some retards think g2 and Faze and 100 thieves are like tier 2 they are not. A tier 2 tournament would be like dreamhack Anaheim with complexity and mibr. Okay there a classes that sort out the teams in the tier 1 cs. Elite teams or world contenders (Basically teams who can win tournaments) Top teams (Teams who can reach playoffs and go deep) Decent Teams (Teams who can get upsets and reach playoffs)
2020-02-26 15:15
#28
daps | 
North America JC_123 
currently the teams #1-#8 on hltv list
2020-02-26 14:20
#29
fer | 
Brazil xxAxx 
Astralis Fnatic NaVi Mouse NRG Lulquid FaZe Vitality Zywoo on Fire 1.5 G2 Vitality Rpk on fire Tier 7 Mibr
2020-02-26 14:29
flag doesnt check out but nice list
2020-02-26 14:26
#50
fer | 
Brazil xxAxx 
It's just the truth, Fnatic was already top 28 and returned to Tier 1, but MiBr is too tired
2020-02-26 14:27
T1: MIBR, Astralis, Fnatic, Liquid, Navi, Faze T1.5: EG, G2, 100T, Vitality idk tier 2
2020-02-26 14:21
3/8 for mibr
2020-02-26 14:25
#47
fer | 
Brazil xxAxx 
MIBR kakakakakakakakkaakak Losing to c9 in qualifying for IEM kkkkk. The last time the Mibr was tier 1 still had 2k, Tarik and Cold
2020-02-26 14:28
i'd say everyting starting from Faze and up (as of right now ranked)
2020-02-26 14:24
#42
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
T1: Natus Vincere T2: Mouz, Astralis, Fnatic, FaZe, T3: EG, G2, Liquid, 100t T999: MIBR, C9, Vitality
2020-02-26 14:25
LMAOOOO
2020-02-26 14:29
kk sam2000k
2020-02-26 14:30
#82
Xyp9x | 
Denmark grindz 
expected
2020-02-26 14:44
#49
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Turkey GOATVICE 
T1 : Astralis Fnatic G2 T2 : Liquid Mous NaVi FaZe T3 : EG 100T Mad Lions NIP VP Complexity Vitality T4 : MIBR C9 OG T5 : BIG ENCE North
2020-02-26 14:27
G2 t1 but not mouz kk
2020-02-26 14:31
G2 Literally no results at tier1 events or not a single bo3 win over a championship contending team but some people dare to put them in the same tier as astralis/fnatic/mouz, very weird
2020-02-26 14:33
#77
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Turkey GOATVICE 
#76
2020-02-26 14:39
hltv.org/matches/2336320/g2-vs-fnatic-dr.. And I won't even enter this kind of discussion simply because you literally said achievement/results and context don't matter which shows how low you are lol, This is the most important wtf are you on, ofc any team can look insane when farming lower tier struggling teams, even NiP looked good yesterday with that ass logic
2020-02-26 14:42
#84
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Turkey GOATVICE 
nip is t3 with my logic you are just mentally challenged
2020-02-26 14:52
#85
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Turkey GOATVICE 
1 fluke big win wooow when g2 were new fnc will still win g2 but cry is free
2020-02-26 14:53
Ok you're just straight up stupid but thank you for taking the time to write down your opinion at least
2020-02-26 14:57
#96
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Turkey GOATVICE 
nice now watch g2 rek mous proof that ure the dumb gg 10 2 2 rounds for pistol and follow 12 0 else
2020-02-26 16:27
#175
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Turkey GOATVICE 
NICE T1 MOUS HAHAHAHHHA BOMBING OUT LAST AT THE EASY GROUP
2020-02-27 23:48
#76
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Turkey GOATVICE 
you dont need to win stuff to see skills - only noobs like you will judge just by results eH bUt hE did 4k he is goat zywho or oH he WoN mAjOr bEsT team - by that logic c9 is t1 for major? g2 is extremely good , so is fnatic who also didnt win a single shit recently yet you didn't cry about fnc because of their past, so why not g2 past? ever since adding nexa hunter they go ham if we apply your logic, only astralis is tier 1 which is also right, because ast reks everyone without a big deal , so , fine by me,put both fnc and g2 down to t2 but , moving g2 down but leaving fnc up there makes no sense, both are the same mous is just a t2 idk what you need as a proof they won 5 tournaments the last 5 that they just won now in their entire existence more or less and the only 1 t1 trophy they won epl was astralis fluke choke which would not happen again 15 - 8 mous is shit - stop crying and accept it , please, you MoUs kids are annoying me
2020-02-26 14:39
#95
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Turkey GOATVICE 
g2 - mouz checks out
2020-02-26 16:26
just 1 match cheks out
2020-02-26 22:56
#113
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Turkey GOATVICE 
its not just 1 match you are mentally challenged everything checks out from flair to flag to kemalist to name to mental state and many more you are just sooo mad cuz ure wrong im right have no arguments after i raped you and come with eH oNlY 1 mAtCh disabled bastard
2020-02-26 23:28
how can you really come up with this shitty mindset just with my fucking username. Im not mad and yeah its just 1 match. And youre turkish too what the fuck are you talking about rn. Shitting people with 1 IQ. Nice logic dumb shit
2020-02-27 12:19
#122
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Turkey GOATVICE 
youre a disabled kemalist traitor im an osman turk simple
2020-02-27 12:58
Youre gay turk
2020-02-27 16:32
#143
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Turkey GOATVICE 
nt kemalist
2020-02-27 16:36
G2 is good but mouz is performing better and theyre solid t1 And they beat astralis so baaad And no one thinks g2 is tier 1 kk bye 1 iq
2020-02-27 12:24
#121
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Turkey GOATVICE 
everything checks out mous never beat ast g2 is t1 g2 rekt your mous you delusional disabled bastard everything checks kemalist
2020-02-27 12:58
Mouz beat ast in epl s10
2020-02-27 13:00
#127
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Turkey GOATVICE 
mous did never ast lost it not mous beat ast 14 8 choke lol also wooow 1 fluke ast choke g2 fucked mous
2020-02-27 13:04
MAN YOURE SOOO DUMB XDDD how can I be “kemalist” you dumb shit
2020-02-27 16:32
#142
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Turkey GOATVICE 
you are mentally challenged kemalists are mentally challenged you are kemalist mentally challenged
2020-02-27 16:36
you need to have some sort of illness like autism or something cuz youre too dumb if we are comparing you with a normal human being
2020-02-27 22:27
#166
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Turkey GOATVICE 
142
2020-02-27 23:13
kk
2020-02-27 23:13
#168
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Turkey GOATVICE 
nolifer axaxa
2020-02-27 23:14
#169
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Turkey GOATVICE 
crrrrryyy mous bots raped by rng 100t HAHAHA
2020-02-27 23:14
#174
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Turkey GOATVICE 
CRY IS FREE BOMBING LAST IN THE EASY GROUP AHAHAHHHH
2020-02-27 23:47
they performed bad at just 1 event after months. And theyre still up there #2
2020-02-27 23:51
#178
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Turkey GOATVICE 
CRY THEY ARE SHIT only 1 event was relevant rest irrelevant farms man stop crying mous exists for like 10 years and never achieved shit bye
2020-02-28 00:01
epl s10 they destroyed astralis kk bye
2020-02-28 00:14
#185
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Turkey GOATVICE 
"destroyed" when astralis fluked from 14 8 HAAHHAAH AST DESTROYED THEM AND WILL AGAIN BUT HEY MOUS WILL NEVER MAKE IT AGAIN TO ANY TIER 1 TOURNAMENT HAHAHAHAHAHAH CRY IS FREE
2020-02-29 16:04
navi 2-0 xdd
2020-03-01 00:15
#188
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Turkey GOATVICE 
navi isnt mous so ? gg to navi mous still sucks and you are still butthurt from ast raping your team over and over fapping to any team beating ast because your own cant do it HAHAHAHAHA
2020-03-01 01:28
ast is shit rn ast is shit placed nearly last at 2 events mouz just didnt perform good at 1 event. nt /closed
2020-03-01 10:05
#191
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Turkey GOATVICE 
delusional retard ast #1
2020-03-01 11:05
not for long
2020-03-02 00:23
#184
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Turkey GOATVICE 
ahahahahahahha cry is free
2020-02-29 16:04
Good list But Astralis so good they're two tiers of their own Tier1: Astralis Tier2: - Tier3: Fnatic, G2, Liquid, Mouz
2020-02-26 22:00
#114
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Turkey GOATVICE 
thank you men))) you are right but i wanted to be humble but i disagree with u men if u do that then its Tier 1 Astralis Tier 2 - Tier 3 fnc g2 Tier 4 liquid mous xd
2020-02-26 23:29
#54
frozen | 
Czech Republic StetD 
Astralis, mouz, fnatic without a doubt, and then you have Liquid, EG, Vitality, which are questionable. NaVi no FaZe no G2 debatable, but have to show more
2020-02-26 14:30
same for me
2020-02-26 14:32
Only 3 teams in tier 1? There should be like 10
2020-02-27 14:16
#164
frozen | 
Czech Republic StetD 
Why 10 dude, there has to be some criteria to put them into the tier 1, dunno about you, but for me tier 1 teams are the tournament favourites, meaning if they are attending a tournament, you expect one of them to win it, so even if I extended tier one onto 7 teams (Astralis, fnatic, mouz, Liquid, EG, Vita, G2) I dont know what other three teams are on the level of these. NaVi, FaZe or 100T are definetly not the tournament favourites and I don't see them matching up against most of the teams mentioned previously, talking about long term performance. Also out of the 7 teams EG and Vita haven't really been showing much lately, OK Vita has won Starladder, but that was more of a show of Zywoo's individual abilities, rather than the team being good as a whole. G2 also doesn't have the numbers, but unlike EG and Vita, they are looking great at the moment.
2020-02-27 18:43
#67
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Finland Miroyev 
Astralis Mouz Fnatic Liquid EG NaVi G2 FaZe Maybe Vitality and 100t
2020-02-26 14:32
#68
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Europe NiKoGOD4ever 
T1 - Astralis, Mouz, Fanatic, Navi Qualifers for T1 - Liquid, EG, G2, Faze T2 - pretty much the rest until Top15
2020-02-26 14:32
#73
frozen | 
Czech Republic StetD 
NaVi is definetly not tier 1 over EG or Liquid.
2020-02-26 14:34
#83
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Europe NiKoGOD4ever 
Just watch the Navi - Nip game and u will see
2020-02-26 14:51
#90
frozen | 
Czech Republic StetD 
What do you mean? NaVi beating tier 15 NiP doesnt make them tear 1, dude seriously at least think of it before you type.
2020-02-26 15:35
Navi isn't even close to contending to win. They'll be lucky to get out of semis, delusional NaVi fans damn.
2020-02-26 17:11
#99
frozen | 
Czech Republic StetD 
Yeah thats what Im saying
2020-02-26 17:12
Tier list of IEM Katowice 2020: T1: Astralis mousesports T2: FaZe Liquid fnatic Vitality T3: EG G2 Na'Vi Virtus.pro T4: MadLions NiP 100Thieves T5: Cloud9 Renegades Tyloo
2020-02-26 14:33
#81
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United Kingdom consiglieri 
Champions (T1): Astralis, Fnatic, NaVi, Liquid (debatable); Legends (does not necessarily reflect current state of affairs): Mibr (not now), NiP (yikes, now T4), , Faze (when Niko is good), Mouz; Contenders: G2 (KennyS), Vitality (with strong Apex and RpK), EG (weak before SG era), Virtus.Pro (Major finals, shaky); Challengers (could give a fight): ENCE (weak after Aleksib left), North, Heroic, Forze. Promising: Cloud9, OG, Godsent (need achievements), Furia, Renegades, Big, Syman, Mad Lions, Tyloo.
2020-02-26 14:43
astralis,mousesports,faze,fnatic,navi
2020-02-26 15:36
The only real answers here are either Astralis or Astralis, Liquid, fnatic. The rest aren't contenders to win anything that has all the top teams. Mouz is overrated as shit, their only proper win being EPL S10, the others lacked the top3. I don't even expect mouz to beat G2 today.
2020-02-26 16:38
#101
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
well fnatic only win dreamhack Malmö. so what's your point dumbass? calling team with 4/5 trophy in a row overrated? hater.
2020-02-26 17:16
fnatic are a strong contender looking at the matches they've been in and won, meanwhile mouz struggling vs Mad Lions and losing to G2.
2020-02-26 19:20
#116
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
fnatic also struggle against renegades on their own map. astralis also lose 2-0 to complexity. whats your point? tier 1 team can't lose some matches?
2020-02-27 00:03
Forgot about this, but bye mouz. I expected them to make playoffs but they suck too much it seems.
2020-02-28 00:49
#181
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
+1
2020-02-28 00:55
#100
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
I believe top 5 hltv rank are tier 1 teams. following by no 6-10 as tier 1.5 teams. xd
2020-02-26 17:15
tier 1 is not a fixed number of teams. imo any team with over 400 points at any given time is tier 1 (500 points if you're purist). so right now that's 7 teams (or 4).
2020-02-26 22:17
Tiers aren't a great way to rank teams. There's a big difference in teams at what people consider tier 1. Try these ranks within T1 CS instead. A - Ast, Liquid, EG, Navi B- Fnatic, FaZe, G2, Vitality C- 100T and anyone below them because it's not worth watching anyone C and below.
2020-02-26 22:31
Tier 1 for sure: Astralis and mousesport Tier 1 Debatable: Liquid and fnatic Tier 2 for sure: rest of top 10 teams
2020-02-26 22:37
#124
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Turkey GOATVICE 
mous LUL
2020-02-27 13:01
T1 Astralis, Liquid, mouz, Fnatic So basically the teams which are able to win any T1 tourney with all the good teams attending it
2020-02-26 22:40
#125
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Turkey GOATVICE 
mous LUL
2020-02-27 13:01
theyve won the last big tourney by beating EG, Fnatic and Astralis in the playoffs who are all top 5 teams
2020-02-27 13:51
#134
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Turkey GOATVICE 
eg isnt fnc impressive ast fluke choke
2020-02-27 15:32
#1 Astralis #2 mousesports #3 Liquid #4 Fnatic #5 Evil Geniuses
2020-02-27 16:22
Not vitality
2020-02-27 12:19
#132
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Slovenia cahinho 
Na' Vi, CraZy and Liquid
2020-02-27 14:17
Tier 1 Fnatic,Na'Vi,Zywoo and 4 bots,Astralis,Mouz,
2020-02-27 15:33
#136
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France kNRD^ 
The top 8 is accurate imo.
2020-02-27 15:35
fnatic, mad lions, og, forze
2020-02-27 16:23
#139
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CIS EzforEnCCe 
IDK, but maybe Astralis, Liquid, Vitality, Navi, mousesports, Fnatic and EG
2020-02-27 16:25
astralis mouz liquid g2 faze fnatic navi
2020-02-27 16:38
Not "teams". There is only 1 tier1 team right now
2020-02-27 16:39
#149
NiKo | 
United States hawrU 
Astralis Mouz Fnatic Navi Faze Vitality Liquid G2 EG 100T
2020-02-27 16:43
Tier 1 - Astralis, Mouz, FNC Tier 2 - FaZe, Liquid, NaVi, EG Tier 3 - Vitality, 100T, G2
2020-02-27 16:43
#159
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North America Jiceg 
Tier 3 G2 HAHAHH Tier 1 FNC HAHAHA NOOB
2020-02-27 16:53
#152
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Denmark SSJona 
i think tier 1 is Astralis, Mousesports, fnatic and liquid as they are the only teams right now who are contenders of winning events and can all upset each other
2020-02-27 16:44
#157
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North America Jiceg 
Not Vitality
2020-02-27 16:52
#162
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Finland Faifainei 
I think ENCE is a real tier 1 team.
2020-02-27 17:03
#163
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Finland Miroyev 
Pretty much all the top 10 teams should be tier 1 since there's pretty clear skill gap between them and top 11-20
2020-02-27 17:09
I'd agree with that but I just dont think Faze have the placements nor do I think I can justify Vitality being tier 1 as 1 dimensional as theyve started this year off. At least last year they had the teamplay to cover up the individuals.
2020-03-01 11:18
#206
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Finland Miroyev 
Don't know based on achievemnts but I'd say they have played well enough to compete with other tier 1 teams Vitality has been pretty poor recently so idk about them tbh
2020-03-01 14:38
#171
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Argentina XaiDN 
ATM Astralis, Vitality, Fnatic, Mouz, Liquid.
2020-02-27 23:25
#173
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United States OKOptimistic 
T1: Astralis G2 Na'vi T2: Fnatic Liquid Shit Tier: Mouz, EG
2020-02-27 23:33
Gen.G # 1
2020-02-28 04:36
Tier 1 ence and havu Tier 2 ???
2020-03-01 10:08
Tier 1 (in order) Astralis G2=Navi Mouz Fnatic Liquid 100T EG T2 (in most likely to move up) Faze Vitality NiP Mad Lions OG CoL Forze Furia MiBR Ence BiG VP Renegades Heroic C9 Godsent
2020-03-01 11:15
#193
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United States tenki_cs 
Tier 1: Astralis, Mousesports Tier 1 Candidates: G2, Na'Vi, Fnatic, FaZe Recently relegated to Tier 2: Liquid, EG Long-Standing Tier 2: Vitality, 100T Mous and Astralis have more than earned the right to have a bad day or two and it's too soon to crown G2 or Na'Vi T1 Fnatic been on the cusp forever mens and FaZe clearly above other 4 teams to me but below other candidates
2020-03-01 11:15
T1 is simply the ability to compete for high placings in big events
2020-03-01 11:16
#196
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United States tenki_cs 
Every team is tier 1 then
2020-03-01 11:18
Uhhh what? How can teams that rarely or never attend big events be considered potential winners of said big events?
2020-03-01 11:19
#200
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United States tenki_cs 
Every team who attends them then Any given day, any given team in attendance can win it all. All we can do is rate past success.
2020-03-01 11:21
If you were doing that youd easily have Liquid in your tier 1. Theres a difference between a chance to win and being likely to make the playoffs of a big event.
2020-03-01 11:26
#195
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Russia MeowZer 
top 10+NIP mad Lions tier2
2020-03-01 11:16
#197
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Russia MeowZer 
why majority of people including 2-3 teams in tier 1 thats so not smart
2020-03-01 11:18
Tier 1 Astralis Liquid NaVi FaZe G2 mousesports Fnatic Vitality Tier 2 EG NiP 100Thieves OG Complexity Mad Lions MIBR Tier 3 GenG ENCE North Furia BIG Virtus Pro Heroic ForZe GODSENT Cloud9
2020-03-01 11:23
How are Faze and Vitality tier 1 and EG/100T tier 2?
2020-03-01 11:26
#202
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Last couple of months is regarded in this: Tier 1 = Astralis Liquid Mousesports Fnatic Vitality G2 EG NAVI FAZE 100Thieves Tier 2 = Complexity OG Mad lions NIP ENCE Forze Heroic Furia Cloud9 Godsent VP Gen.G Tier 3 = North Renegades Tyloo BIG C0ntact Spirit Havu
2020-03-01 11:24
Ence Mibr Faze Avangar Dig My silver 4 team
2020-03-01 11:26
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