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people talk shit about rpk when shox is the worst in this team ez clutch rpk had many moments in last tournaments but shox dissapoint every tournament
2020-02-26 20:34
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apex shox and rpk are all bots.
2020-02-26 20:34
and zywoo
2020-02-26 20:34
#24
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India _Jazz_ 
-1
2020-02-26 20:43
xdd
2020-02-26 20:44
#69
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Denmark FazeUpAssDown 
0/8
2020-02-27 00:17
#23
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India _Jazz_ 
+1
2020-02-26 20:43
+1
2020-02-27 00:16
Uh.. interesting name.
2020-02-27 00:36
name checks out
2020-02-26 20:34
lol apex suxed more
2020-02-26 20:34
#5
nexa | 
Finland finalfan 
Hate to say but shox is kinda washed up :(
2020-02-26 20:35
Apex is the worst in Vitality. He’s dogshit at his role and just can’t entry anymore. 1 good game a month.
2020-02-26 20:35
actually 1 good game a year
2020-02-26 20:47
#70
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France Nairelav 
He's not the entry anymore, ALEX RPK or ZywOo do it more often but I agree with what you're saying, he's a good support but suck at shooting and greeding too much on kills
2020-02-27 00:19
Hes not a "good support" either because he dosnt play support. Hes given space and he still IS the entry because he literally had an interview where he was talking about his entrying after he started buying the krieg. -Apex +Any french player who can get consistent 1.05+ rating.
2020-02-27 00:28
#72
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France Nairelav 
Then it changed recently because ALEX said in an itw that they were all entrying (except shox I guess because he's lurker)
2020-02-27 00:32
Can we agree on RPK > Apex > Shox?
2020-02-26 20:35
i do not bcse of my name but shox is the worst, rpk had many good moments if u watched it in the last tournaments, shox is just stuck in 2014 and lurk like nobody knows how he plays
2020-02-26 20:36
Yes I agreed with you
2020-02-26 20:40
RPK 3rd or even 2nd best player in vitality
2020-02-26 20:36
#27
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India _Jazz_ 
Still trash.
2020-02-26 20:44
You're trash
2020-02-27 08:17
#91
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India _Jazz_ 
No u
2020-02-27 11:46
Oof
2020-02-27 12:09
#14
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Germany Neckarstadion 
+1
2020-02-26 20:36
#41
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Europe You_are_weak 
Agreed. In this list, RpK is the only one who knows what he is doing even though it's not very successful.
2020-02-26 21:07
#88
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India csgo_veteran 
RPK > Shox > Silver 1 > My ass > Garbage >>>>>> Apex
2020-02-27 08:48
#8
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France Tred0x 
He did great first tournament when they lost against fnatic in final but now he's totally washed up player, shox is the new guardian
2020-02-26 20:35
6-17 SH OX xaxa
2020-02-26 20:36
#11
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Hungary raffai 
lately rpk performing really well, while my boi shoxie sucks for some reason :((
2020-02-26 20:36
#47
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Rpk does from.time till time his peak tank form is pretty frequently an reoccurrence. He also has a good base level and chemistry with zywoo. -Apex
2020-02-26 21:33
#13
Virus | 
Brazil Coronga 
whole vitaality is basically zywoo and 4 bots
2020-02-26 20:36
well why would people even blame rpk if guys like shox and apex are the guys who are supposed to be guys who get the frags
2020-02-26 20:36
many blind idiots blame rpk always
2020-02-26 20:38
#48
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Netherlands arTvamp 
True.
2020-02-26 21:34
+1
2020-02-26 21:38
really true +1 le tank >>>>>>>>>>> botapex and botshoxie
2020-02-27 08:39
#16
World Kobs 
apex is the worst since years, zywoo and rpk would be the only players i would keep , maybe shox also if he can lead
2020-02-26 20:38
rofl alex isnt the problem they just need more firepower so they clearly need to replace apex or shox if not both
2020-02-26 20:39
#19
World Kobs 
well .. he lead like happy in 2014 , lot of strats are similar.. basically just run and outaim , trade frag
2020-02-26 20:40
well but we are not in 2014 anymore
2020-02-26 20:46
Nah much more structure, better utility usage, more variety, unique setups. Vitality is the most tactically deep team the French scene has had
2020-02-27 08:35
Mainly because of XTQZZ btw Otherwise i agree that Alex = happy
2020-02-27 09:33
I mean its not like thats an insult. Happy had great periods I just believe that Alex is a bit deeper tactically and more structure oriented than him. French CS is still very heads up based but Alex has added a lot to their utility usage and cohesion. And yes most coaches work closely with their IGLs. Its hard to say how much influence each coach actually has. Would gla1ve be as exceptional without Zonic? Who knows. What i do know is Vitality have good structure and tactics their problems lie with individuals under-performing, mainly shox and apex.
2020-02-27 09:37
#49
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Agree. Though who to add without touching g2? They must be french speaking right? Kioshima was never the actual problem in french teams nor in faze and a good player. Who else?
2020-02-26 21:36
maybe go international like g2?
2020-02-26 21:43
#62
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Im afraid that is becoming apperant. However maybe remove apex set shox back to the entry role together with either rpk or.so. Add kioshima the last best available french speaking player left. Put him in the lurke role he does it natrually. Or get zywoo to learn english on a better level.
2020-02-26 21:50
Kio will never play in the french scene again, that should be obvious by now. I mean G2 even took lucky over him then went international.
2020-02-27 08:36
#92
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Netherlands arTvamp 
I know that happened but why is it obvious? There must be an unresolved conflict of somesort that I had missed.
2020-02-27 11:53
Hes been deemed toxic by many players in the scene, wants to be the star etc
2020-02-27 12:09
#96
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Really? Lol I thought that feedback always came from people like nbk, shox, happy. Aka players who have ego problems themselves.
2020-02-27 12:27
#97
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Netherlands arTvamp 
So if that is true that could put kio.out.of the window. That leaves adding scream + shox as entry duo. Alex igl/lurker? zywoo awp, rpk support/anchor. I just dont think scream has what it takes anymore to.compete against top.tier competition. Let alone shox. So unless the role change for him and unless scream does diliver. It sounds more like spinning the wheel again then actually solving something and improving. Then vitality needs to get international and doors are open for vitality to.kick.two and go international or for zywoo to go international. In eithercase he would need to.take english class.
2020-02-27 12:35
Scream clearly doesnt have the motivation or drive to be a top pro. Wtf is he even doing right now? If he wanted to be on a tier 1 pro hed be grinding away on a lower tier team. Instead he just streams and waits for an offer. Scream is a no go. English is the future
2020-02-27 13:18
#99
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Yeah it seems so bummer. Since it will.mean there will be no more true french csgo.lineup. But I can take distance of that sentiment. I also don't know if its possible for zywoo or if his willing to improve his english enough in short.period of time.
2020-02-27 13:29
Great players need to be able to adapt, if that's what he has to do to win championships then sobeit
2020-02-27 13:46
#56
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Greece Petsos 
Lucky and bodyy or scream , noone else is close to them
2020-02-26 21:44
#63
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Netherlands arTvamp 
I want to believe in that but I believe they either had their chance or wont be good enough anymore against todays top tier comeptition.
2020-02-26 21:52
#64
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Greece Petsos 
scream didnt get a second chance and right now i dont even know if he wants to play at a pro lvl again . Lucky and bodyy had the same roles and g2 couldnt really use them properly
2020-02-26 21:54
#58
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North America 007DBR9 
Kio is a great big brain
2020-02-26 21:46
rpk does what he's supposed to do. shox is the last alive in half of the rounds and doesn't do shit.
2020-02-26 20:40
#22
World Kobs 
that alex fault not shox
2020-02-26 20:43
it's alex' fault that shox can't kill. ok.
2020-02-26 20:48
#34
World Kobs 
not only, be he use shox in a bad way.. shox must feel useless in many rounds, btw at ice challenge he was their bets player with rpk i think
2020-02-26 20:52
lurking/closing out rounds is the only role shox has ever excelled at. it's the right way to use him, but he's not the same player.
2020-02-26 20:54
#40
World Kobs 
with G2 at the end he was decent ..so imo if they can t use it right they are just stupid for picking him, still think apex is their worst player
2020-02-26 21:04
#51
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Wasnt shox and scream a great entry duo in g2 before? I think that suits him better and that position would open up if -apex leaves the team.
2020-02-26 21:39
#57
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Greece Petsos 
yeah he is a lurker/clutcher but if he's against 3-4 players every round then its impossible to clutch
2020-02-26 21:46
That's just not true tho. Theres plenty of times where hes in round changing positions and fails to deliver
2020-02-27 08:16
Vitality coach said : If is not gonna work with this line-up , we will go ONLY INTERNATIONAL
2020-02-26 20:44
#31
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CIS Fake2flaggeR8 
Where?
2020-02-26 20:48
i'm a big shox fanboy but he's detrimental to the team
2020-02-26 20:44
Shox doesn't please us at all, from the word at all.
2020-02-26 20:48
apex and shox has become terrible. RpK still does his role, ALEX is OK while being the igl, Zywoo is a monster. Either zywoo should join another team or this team should replace fed up apex and shox.
2020-02-26 20:54
Yep theyre done. Theyve had the chance to revive their careers and consistently drop the ball.
2020-02-26 20:55
I mean, they're still good enough for t2-cs, but to compete for the n1 spot? nahh, I agree with u.
2020-02-26 20:57
They're gonna have to go international to stay on top. French scene isnt that deep for some reason.
2020-02-26 21:21
#53
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Zywoo on english lessons then asap.
2020-02-26 21:42
#59
JaCkz | 
France Freaz 
Neo (Vitality owner) said it would be the last FR team, next time the line up change it'll go inter
2020-02-26 21:48
No it was XTQZZZ their coach and I agree
2020-02-27 02:00
#52
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Netherlands arTvamp 
100% agree.
2020-02-26 21:41
Is there any good players in the french scene that could replace shox/apex?
2020-02-26 20:56
Jeyn, that's it and I think hes still focused on schooling. Also we havent seen him vs tier 1 on big stages so it's still a risk. Otherwise they need to go international
2020-02-26 21:22
#67
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United Kingdom Sky_Nightmare 
International would probably be a better bet like g2 did but the risk of bad comms and a mix of playstyles could mess with the team
2020-02-27 00:15
Better to have an adjustment period then stick with players who consistently drop the ball. Worth a try imo.
2020-02-27 02:01
#79
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United Kingdom Sky_Nightmare 
Yeah i agree just gotta find the right people or the team could end up the same or worse
2020-02-27 02:08
shoxie a lot of better then noob RPK /closed
2020-02-26 21:22
#60
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North America 007DBR9 
shox is shit now le tank, zywoo, and alex are the only vita players that should stay if they change the lineup
2020-02-26 21:48
wtf are you talking about just look shoxie's plays, so smart when he stays 1v2 1v3, insane plays
2020-02-26 22:35
cant remember good clutch from shox in vitality but can remember rpk desgle clutch recently
2020-02-27 00:40
god tier play on inferno
2020-02-27 08:45
#45
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Denmark Howlite 
why even comment this when your name is RPKletank. Kinda seems like you opinion is biest.
2020-02-26 21:24
best + biased = biest?
2020-02-26 21:28
#55
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Netherlands arTvamp 
Yes just... Yes
2020-02-26 21:43
#61
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North America 007DBR9 
no bias only fax
2020-02-26 21:49
#66
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United Kingdom Sky_Nightmare 
For him being the support player and one of the older current top csgo pros he still has alot of highlight moments and big plays in the game
2020-02-27 00:14
Rpk plays all the shit spots, and he is still performing. Insane player.
2020-02-27 00:43
#76
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Netherlands Yourii 
Only zywoo is playing good at sometimes ALEX
2020-02-27 00:47
-shox +lucky -apex +hadji /close
2020-02-27 02:14
Both are shit
2020-02-27 08:37
#95
World Kobs 
Rpk is the only one that get better.. apex is trash since 2 or 3 years even if he make less mistake he still has zero intelligence in game, rpk except maybe on mirage is decent .. alex make shitty calls and shitty plays but i guess it can be true for all igls... still than 15/14 round vs astralis.. he can be as braindead as apex thats the problem... and both on B inferno lmao it s a clown fiesta.. these 2 really make retards move. alex need to realize he is shit with all weapons except with the noob weapon everyone can frag the sg he should just wait with a line for someone to go into his crosshair.. cause with his stupid moves and lack of skill he can give bombsite for free
2020-02-27 12:17
Alex gets a kill pushing and zywoo and shox die for free post plant and you blame Alex...
2020-02-27 14:08
yes he made a retard move just like apex make since years.. just wait and it s win but he push alone so it bring shox and zywoo in weird spots to try to compensate , it could have worked but it s was more safe to just protect the bomb . 4 vs 3 i think it was? bomb planted on a bomb spot very hard to retake
2020-02-27 14:19
Shox and zywoo were in standard post plant decisions. Cant blame alex for them not winning their duels. Alex dealt like 150 damage that round. Shox and zywoo did nothing. One of them should have been on ramp but instead they continued to peek/move around and werent ready for the duels.
2020-02-28 01:41
#100
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Slovakia full_yokel_ 
who is shox? cuz shoxieJESUS died in 2015
2020-02-27 13:30
apex is easily the worst player right there, just a reminder that these shitters were tier4 team before zywoo joined them and carried to tier1 single-handedly
2020-02-27 13:31
They formed late 2018 the hell are you talking about? Zywoo was part of the original roster
2020-02-27 14:12
they played without zywoo before and they were tier4 washed-up team, they still are and they will always be useless bots but zywoo is carrying them
2020-02-27 14:40
0/8
2020-02-28 01:39
true wihtout zywoo they would still try to qualify online for tournament and would get rekt by unknow top50 teams you never seen at a lan
2020-02-27 14:21
Rpk maybe sucks in terms of skills "sometimes" but don't do stupid plays like shox did in last 2 tournaments
2020-02-27 14:16
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