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KARRIGAN LOL
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Norway device_is_overrated 
As usual the most overrated igl in the scene gets exposed again. Joins superstar team wins a couple of games and the odd tournament in the honeymoon and then fails completely. The story of karrigan.
2020-02-27 23:46
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2020-02-27 23:46
#77
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Brazil davidzor 
+1
2020-02-28 00:55
#103
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Denmark Cleandog 
As usual...a less than meaningfull comment from Norwegian star analyst...
2020-02-28 08:12
+1 me too did 2-1 mouz 2.5x but alas!
2020-02-28 08:11
#2
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Lithuania I_eat_kebabs 
+11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
2020-02-27 23:46
#3
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Canada Herodionus 
Ok
2020-02-27 23:46
nt rain
2020-02-27 23:46
Did i say something not true?
2020-02-27 23:47
#30
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Norway at0mic_cs 
nt jkaem
2020-02-27 23:55
So... they are underperforming in one tournament... hmm...
2020-02-28 00:07
Yes almost every word...
2020-02-28 12:39
nt legija
2020-02-27 23:55
#89
f0rest | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina veasih 
NT ZywOo
2020-02-28 07:36
#5
s1mple | 
Czech Republic is_trash 
+1
2020-02-27 23:47
#6
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United States EUIRRELEVANT 
+1
2020-02-27 23:47
#7
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
+100000 Chokigan lost a major final to tarik IGLing C9 LMAO
2020-02-27 23:47
Biggest choke in history of cs.
2020-02-27 23:48
#34
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Serbia Duff555 
That loss still hurts
2020-02-27 23:57
#99
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Russia nobody_cars 
15-11 choked to NA mens(((
2020-02-28 08:07
It does really hoped for guardian to win a major.
2020-02-28 09:01
+1
2020-02-28 09:20
+1
2020-02-27 23:47
#10
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Switzerland SNXWe 
u really wanna say that boom4 better then carrygun?
2020-02-27 23:47
That remains to be seen. Karrigan has been in the scene for a long time as an IGL and has failed to have a consistent period of time being #1 or even winning a major. Just an average igl.
2020-02-27 23:49
#27
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Switzerland SNXWe 
man remember the end of 2019 everyone calls him a genius few month ago
2020-02-27 23:55
So if you dont win a major or stay at the top 1 you are average??? That statement makes no sense.
2020-02-28 00:20
No shit, where did this karrigan train come from again? There is a reason teams consistently kick him, he fkn sucks.
2020-02-28 01:03
#135
f0rest | 
Sweden forwin 
Delusional. FaZe regret that they kicked karrigan. And mousesports are #2 in the world right now. That must mean that everyone below #2 sucks according to your logic.
2020-02-28 13:26
Top 2 Didn't make playoffs in cakewalk group Pick one
2020-02-28 17:09
#11
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Netherlands meneertjesem 
stop
2020-02-27 23:47
#13
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France Il_padrino 
Too cocky on D2
2020-02-27 23:48
#14
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United Kingdom bruhmusmummus 
cant win every tournament = overrated
2020-02-27 23:48
Every? They one one major tournament, and it took Astralis to choke and mouz to OVERPERFORM to win it. Because that's what karrigan teams have to do to win, overperform. That's what his style of calling requires. When that stops working he fails again and again.
2020-02-27 23:50
+1
2020-02-28 00:54
#83
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India Grimm_jow 
okay so astralis lost that means mouz didn't played well rather astralis choked . Now mouz lost they suddenly are a shitty team.
2020-02-28 01:13
Astralis were up 14-8. If you think thats not a choke i dont know what to say to you. And i didnt say mouz is a shitty team, far from it. My thread is about karrigan and how overrated he is as an igl.
2020-02-28 09:08
#15
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Sweden Akoulad 
MOUSESPORTS #2 THEY SAID! LMAO
2020-02-27 23:48
#1 based on ESL rankings KEKW
2020-02-27 23:50
HAHAHAHHA ESL DELUSIONAL AS WELL ♿️😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
2020-02-27 23:54
What you said makes no sense. They were really bad for a couple of months before they started to get their shit together and play well. So he is not overrated. He made them better players, he gave them time to adapt, try new roles and find perfect fits for everyone on the team. Then everything clicked and they were dominating. Shit days happen.
2020-02-27 23:52
Dominating? Lmfao. Stop being deluded please. If you want an igl to give you some sort of sense of organization and teamplay, sure karrigan is your guy. If you want an IGL which will make you the #1 team for a consistent period of time, karrigan is not your guy. And that's a fact. Mouz is his last chance to prove himself.
2020-02-27 23:54
#48
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Czech Republic noclips_ 
wtf u want more than win everything in 3 last months od the year, they were top 1 even beat astralis, nobody has beaten astralis for a while
2020-02-28 00:04
#49
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Czech Republic noclips_ 
but today they were bad thats for sure
2020-02-28 00:05
They were not “dominating” lmao. And he also known to be a good leader, but he s calls and strats are shitty and not effective, thats why the team gets together and then chokes when its time to get some serious results
2020-02-28 00:11
#21
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Cambodia PigFace 
hes almost as overrated as MSL
2020-02-27 23:52
I dont know about overrated. MSL gets a shit ton of hate. I will always give MSL a pass because MSL has had to play with players in his own region while Karrigan has played with superstars and one of the best players for almost all of his career and still failed in the end.
2020-02-27 23:56
#42
flusha | 
Cambodia PigFace 
MSL has had to play with players of his own region and most of them are top 20 players. Look at the talent MSL has had to work with over the years and he never gets the best out of them and drops them.
2020-02-28 00:01
Ahahhaha did u saw this smoke-rush in the last round? :DDDD KaRRiGAn beSt IgL they said LMAO
2020-02-27 23:53
That's a typical karrigan clueless call.
2020-02-27 23:59
that was painful to watch
2020-02-27 23:59
And the most funny thing is that they already did the same shit with smoke-push and got rekt :D Thx god they'r done now.
2020-02-28 00:03
#23
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Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
norweigan igls? karrigan easily top 3 igls ever.
2020-02-27 23:54
Great argument.
2020-02-27 23:56
#41
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Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
you realize he is leading unexpirienced and new team on the scene, picking up unknown players and doing his best to achive something? he was in 5 grand finals in a row, katowice is just a failure cuz of bad individual performance of some players.
2020-02-28 00:01
#47
flusha | 
Cambodia PigFace 
LOL Gla1ve, Pronax, Fallen, Zeus, cArn all better than this bot
2020-02-28 00:03
#63
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Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
gla1ve - playing with 4 expirienced and 1.30 rated players, all top 20. Pronax - played with best team on best peak ever, all teammates top 20. Fallen - carryed by coldzera and fer for half of his life Zeus - Actually good igl karrigan - playing with unexpirienced and unknown players, still winning tournaments.
2020-02-28 00:24
#100
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Ecuador Ageless 
Zeus - LISTEN TO ME BLYAT Wins major, very good IGL in all seriousness, super good 1.6 igl but unlucko for him in csgo except for Gambit, but there is 0 way that Gambit wins in any other situation, u have to admit.
2020-02-28 08:09
#133
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Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
zeus did so much with so little never played with mega stars, or zywoo to carry him. many people think like he had s1mple so ez for navi, but s1mple wasn't so popular then, he was known for his toxicity and no teams wanted him. so zeus overall good igl but bad fragger
2020-02-28 13:22
+1. Big time
2020-02-28 08:28
so because they had good players they are bad IGL nice logic LOL Karrigan played with Dupreeh, Device and Xyp too and then he had the Faze roster. This Mouz team is experienced apart from Frozen.
2020-02-29 12:36
elemeNt, goat igl
2020-02-28 08:04
#134
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Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
1.6 wasnt as strategical as csgo is
2020-02-28 13:23
#26
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Turkey GOATVICE 
stfu bastard
2020-02-27 23:55
MAD?
2020-02-27 23:55
He is turkish and a device fanboy. Has been harrasing me all day. Not a good day for him probably.
2020-02-27 23:56
#44
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Turkey GOATVICE 
not a good day ast raped fnc guess topfragger device alongside magisk all day ? you irrelevant bastard just come to my threads too much fucking gay expected lying DELUSIONAL DISABLED BASTARD
2020-02-28 00:02
Why so mad kurdistan?
2020-02-28 00:15
I never even clicked your threads. You're the one replying to me 24/7. Not a good day for you prob frustrated that Russia destroyed you.
2020-02-28 00:43
#87
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Turkey GOATVICE 
nice try 3rd worlder also a simple look to my threads tells otherwise idk if youre just that disabled and schizophren that u dont know or just a terrible lying bastard axaxaxa
2020-02-28 07:15
#45
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Turkey GOATVICE 
at that bastard yes but your name made me laugh gj nice name
2020-02-28 00:02
truly mad have a nice day
2020-02-28 08:20
Cause alot of igl's have accomplished what he have done, the list just goes on... The Norwigian igl's shine through on this list with all their accomplisments... Almost all succesful players from Norway where carried by Danish firepower.... Where - in past tense - who is in top cs go besides Rain nowadays?
2020-02-27 23:57
Jkaem
2020-02-28 00:13
his trophy page looks a bit empty for a top player tho lol hltv.org/player/8248/jkaem#tab-trophiesB..
2020-02-28 00:19
Good or not his calling this nuke game was outright aweful. Every T round they pushed ramp they lost. Most others they won. And then he figures "lets try ramp through a smoke". What the fuck! Major brainfart.
2020-02-27 23:58
" Joins superstar team" lmfao they couldnt even qualify for the major before he joined
2020-02-28 00:01
he joined to a team of talents, only chrisj was arguable one
2020-02-28 00:14
a team of talent? Woxic and Frozen had won 0 trophies before and Ropz and Chrisj were struggling to stay in top20 and had already bombed out of the minor before he joined. Im not a mouz or karrigan fan at all btw but he have more t1 trophies than any other IGL in the scene currently apart from glaive yet delusional people like OP think he's the most overrated igl ever lmfao.
2020-02-28 00:18
Frozen was highly rated upcoming talent, ropz is consistent top 20 member, woxic was two man carry with issaa in a solid tier 2 team
2020-02-28 00:19
Highly rated upcoming talent with 0 trophies and no lan experience. Yeah there is a lot of those guys around lol. There is a big difference between tier 2 and the level mouz is playing at now
2020-02-28 00:22
M8, I dont tell he s bad in making a bunch of player a real team, but when the team is formed, he struggles to power it with consistent strats and calls, making team choke and upset fans and org expectations
2020-02-28 00:24
I dont know about the thing with consistency. The only example of that is with Faze and guess where they are now, also out of the tournament and didnt win anything relevant for the entire 2019. As i said im not a fan of karrigan or mouz and i def think there are a few igl better than him but it is almost insane how many times he have had to prove himself i mean the guy have 16 t1 trophies with 4 different teams that should say something
2020-02-28 00:29
Y, Faze is in struggles yet it looks like they getting out of it + they have igl-wannabe instead of propper solid experienced igl. Also on another side, there is Astralis that become the best team after booting him out
2020-02-28 00:32
+100 Everything you said is 100% true. Only karrigan apologist will defend him for some reason.
2020-02-28 00:45
Youre thick headed man. The fella above literally debunked everything he said. And he isnt a Finn fan.
2020-02-28 08:31
#136
f0rest | 
Sweden forwin 
Just admit it. You don't know how to bet and blame the team that lost the game for you. You have no idea about map picks either probably.
2020-02-28 13:35
LMAO, I dont bet
2020-02-28 13:54
+1
2020-02-28 08:29
#39
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Israel OKOptimistic1 
+1
2020-02-27 23:59
true
2020-02-28 00:01
#55
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Sweden meistr0 
hltv.org/team/4494/mousesports#tab-event.. Bruh? "Wins a few events" Wtf are you on about?
2020-02-28 00:16
Go read again what i said.
2020-02-28 00:46
#74
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Sweden meistr0 
Well event = tournament w/e. Still, ur wrong. Also got mouz to #2 in the world.
2020-02-28 00:51
Garbage ranking. They won ONE big tournament. And now he's exposed going out to 100 thieves.
2020-02-28 00:58
#85
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Sweden meistr0 
0/8
2020-02-28 01:30
#60
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Finland cuntycorn 
True, overrated af. Not saying that he's bad but this genius status that he has is ridiculous. If we look at the top 15 teams he's pretty much average.
2020-02-28 00:21
+1
2020-02-28 00:46
ye ye when mouz winning everyone making topics karrigan god etc, best igl on earth planet, astralis lost gold player when mouz lose - karrigan shit igl xD
2020-02-28 00:22
I never made those threads so dont include me in that list. My views are open for everyone here.
2020-02-28 00:47
ye u never but..
2020-02-28 01:43
How much?
2020-02-28 00:31
i didnt know honeymoons periods can occur nearly a year after formation
2020-02-28 00:50
You are retarded. /closed
2020-02-28 00:53
Reading your nick, its clear that you are simply jealous of danish people, and have to vent your frustration about that on the forums. Try to enjoy what you have (rain) instead of flaming what you dont have (danish players)
2020-02-28 00:57
Could not be further from the truth. Im a big fan of gla1ve and danish cs. Your argument is dead.
2020-02-28 01:00
#82
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Russia RogueDecay 
I cant stop laughing ahahahahahhahahaha 7 rounds starting T d2 AXAXAXAXAXAXXAAXAXAXXAXXAX😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣 bestest igl my ass, what a pathetic clown
2020-02-28 01:08
#96
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Denmark Cleandog 
Classic russian behaviour! Real role model...
2020-02-28 08:00
Agreed. He is a good leader but doesn't have what it takes to bring a team consistently at the very top.
2020-02-28 01:18
I’m curious, apart from gla1ve which igl’s have that ability?
2020-02-28 07:32
#97
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Denmark Cleandog 
No but top 5 team + the odd win is still sperb!
2020-02-28 08:02
+1 he should just retire
2020-02-28 07:41
5 tournament wins = honeymoon LMAO BRAIN CHECKS OUT
2020-02-28 07:46
Nobody gives a shit about tier 2-3 tournaments. They literally have 1 good showing at an event that mattered. Didn't even make playoffs this major.
2020-02-28 08:10
That "good showing" had them beating the majority of T1 teams. Guess everything else doesnt count
2020-02-28 08:33
People out here acting like they're the new coming of astralis. They had 1 great tournament, it was up to them to prove that that wasn't a fluke. They were in Group B ffs. They were the only top team in that group. They couldn't even place 3rd. That tells me the good performance may have been the outlier, because nobody had strats for them as they saw them as weak competition at the time.
2020-02-28 08:59
Im not acting that way. But in the last 5 months, theyve done more than any team. So whats the real discussion? See #110
2020-02-28 09:12
I've been watching Karrigan run teams for as long as I can remember. His ideal role is as a coach. The fact he consistently gets kicked from top teams that go on to achieve more without him should ring some bells. The discussion is about him, and people thinking mouz is a top 2 team with astralis. The truth is they are 4-8 in no specific placing. Great potential, but always underachieving. Which they will continue to do with that overrated fraud
2020-02-28 09:17
I have been as well. And as far as I can remember, a lot of guys taught by Karrigan have had vast success. The argument about him getting kicked is so old and ridiculous in itself. Players get removed. Kicked, benched, let go. Its a business. Some teams cant wait forever, or hedge bets on other guys. Hes never been known for fragging so he gets by passed. Yet he always has big brain plays and hes always trying to improve his fragging ability. Im glad you control rankings. Thanks for sorting where mouz fall for all of us. Theyve already over acheived with Karrigan you Numpty.
2020-02-28 09:53
Not making major playoffs is overachieving? What kind of pleb reasoning is that? He can teach players as a coach, I already said as much. He will never be on top1 team as a player.
2020-02-28 10:03
Just shut up Ur embarrassing Ur self
2020-02-28 11:10
QQ kid
2020-02-28 17:10
5 tournament wins = honeymoon LMAO BRAIN CHECKS OUT
2020-02-28 07:46
#95
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Denmark Cleandog 
+1
2020-02-28 07:59
#93
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Russia LeGoBoys 
His dream is to win a major and this is my dream too for him
2020-02-28 07:55
#94
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Denmark Cleandog 
Comment must have real content!
2020-02-28 07:59
Their first lost, okay. How about astralis losing to tier 2. Okay.
2020-02-28 08:24
The guy just made mouz like 400k in the last 5 months.. just in winnings. Let alone merch, ticket sales. Etc.. Let alone help fine tune some players who have never done a fucking thing, w0xic and frozen. Resurging chrisJs career. And helping ropz to just keep getting better and developing. Mouz is early into figuring themselves out. Karrigan turns teams into T1. Its impossible to deny. Only a small percentage of guys win Majors. But many are still great and legendary players. In the end Karrigan will be in that discussion.
2020-02-28 08:37
Couldnt agree more
2020-02-28 08:51
#127
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Denmark Menterx 
+1
2020-02-28 10:04
he was just saving strats for major u fool
2020-02-28 09:03
Do bad 1 tournament Be now trash
2020-02-28 09:04
if 100T win this tour, we can't blame mouz
2020-02-28 09:08
-Lose one quarterfinal in a tournament -omg karrigan so shit wtf Typical haterkids
2020-02-28 09:09
#119
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Japan chanse 
nt rain, still salty cuz niko is igl and faze is losing
2020-02-28 09:11
I mean he goes to teams who can't do shit and they have success I guess that is over rated to you? Before he went to mouz they were shit nothing more to say really, didn't qualify for the major and were just playing bad consistently. Before he went to FaZe they couldn't make it out of group stage at several lan events in a row, he lift a dead horse for a brief period. I don't like Karrigan personally but he is top 3 all time achievements in this game with several teams and one of the most accomplished IGLs of all time in CS Go, he isn't over rated.
2020-02-28 09:18
#126
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Denmark Menterx 
Nice b8 m8!
2020-02-28 10:03
#128
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Iraq DuncanAK 
+1
2020-02-28 10:06
#130
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Bulgaria Ramky 
plus 1 karrigan and woxic overrated as f
2020-02-28 11:11
#131
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United States caliprep 
Karrigan isn't the problem. Woxic, Frozen, and Ropz aren't that good.
2020-02-28 11:49
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2.00
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1.47
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2.67
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1.41
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