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SolEk | 
Europe Adenauer 
Whats wrong with wanting free healthcare and college at the expense of the richest 1%?
2020-02-29 00:00
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#1
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Czech Republic Patrikachu1337 
shut up fake flagger
2020-02-29 00:03
The richest 1% still have rights
2020-02-29 00:04
rights to what? You do realize that rich people dont tax the same way like working and middle class do?
2020-02-29 00:56
Rich working and middle class don't tax people
2020-02-29 00:57
ok ur a child
2020-02-29 12:45
#64
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
the man on the right is the 1% imgur.com/a/0j8LSCx
2020-02-29 12:54
#66
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United States hleev4 
wha country is that supposed to be?
2020-02-29 15:50
#68
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Reunion 1iquser 
idk bro really
2020-02-29 17:07
#71
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United States hleev4 
cus topping out at 30% is hella low
2020-02-29 17:22
These leftists dont even put any efford into their baits nowadays pimpims.
2020-02-29 00:06
wats wrong with argentina?
2020-02-29 00:10
Leftism.
2020-02-29 00:12
I just dont follow stuff. For how long do you have a leftist president? In urugay things are going well.
2020-02-29 00:12
Uruguay has had high inflation and stagnated growth for over 10 years now, people got tired of their center-left government that's why they voted them out of office now. Better than Venezuela and Argentina? of course, still absolutely terrible, nowhere near as good as Panama or Chile before leftists scumbags piece of shit revolutionaries. Last time we had a right wing president in Argentina was in 1922-1928 , Marcelo Alvear. Ever since we've had different shades of leftism statism, some conservatives, most progressives, all big government anti-freedom anti-individualism scum, all redistributionists of wealth, all telling everyone how they're gonna make the rich pay...shithole country because of shitass population.
2020-02-29 00:16
#31
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Netherlands SportingNL 
I pray
2020-02-29 00:27
Nothing against. But I will let you know one thing: HEALTH is the MOST expensive and impossible thing to give for everyone. Even here, in Canada, Montreal - here the taxes is like 50% of your salary, have a shit health care system. My private plan in Brasil was better omegalul. There will be no miracle for your country. But at least its better than a retarded trying to build a wall and spreading racism for a country FULL of immigrants.
2020-02-29 00:10
send clip of trump being racist thx
2020-02-29 00:12
any anti-imigration stuff? (ok, more xenophia than racism but idk if is the correct term or not)
2020-02-29 00:14
So being anti-immigration is inherently xenophobic I mean, he's using immigration as a bit of a scapegoat -- not even a good one imo, but it's still not born out of pure hatred, as far as I can tell. Most of the right is just anti-illegal-immigration, not immigration in general.
2020-02-29 00:16
well, when I saw familes been deported and parents been separeted from their kids .... there is a lot of hate there. But ok, I respect your position. "Most of the right is just anti-illegal-immigration, not immigration in general." -> its something that sounds nice in theory and terrible in pratice. See brexit, my friend with phd in UK, author of many patents for UK on pharmacy, had to start to hear in the streets to return to their country from some un-skilled hand job workers, from people that has nothing to contribute if is not their yellow teeths.
2020-02-29 00:25
Everything i've seen about border camps are horrible -- which implies that they're broken. BUT, I don't know that it's intentional. I don't know what you're saying in the second paragraph, sorry.
2020-02-29 00:27
tl;dr from second paragraphy (sorry Im a little tired after 10h job): brexit is a kind of anti-illegal-imigration and in favor of skilled work -> sounds good on pratice, but I have real life examples of increase in racism against any kind of immigrant.
2020-02-29 00:29
US is a really diverse place... Especially in the south Here in texas only like 48% of the population is white I highly doubt we have anything close to a racism problem
2020-02-29 00:39
no it's not even xenophobia if someone is against immigration that brings more negative results than positive.
2020-02-29 00:17
I agree with your logical argument, but life is not binary, true or false. Sometimes one thing leads to the other.
2020-02-29 00:32
I was i Montreal for work last year and paid nowhere near 50% tax?
2020-02-29 15:46
Because you dont earn the same like me.
2020-02-29 16:09
#8
North America TL0 
its not free its from taxes you people are so stupid it hurts
2020-02-29 00:11
>europeans >intelligents choose one
2020-02-29 00:14
Don't even try, you gonna waste your time...
2020-02-29 00:38
No shit. If you had read the message you could have maybe avoided making yourself looking like mouth breathing mix of a dog and a sewer rat.
2020-02-29 00:41
lmfao
2020-02-29 00:56
#56
North America TL0 
you're clearly the only one who's doing that here
2020-02-29 01:44
#59
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Denmark Notallama 
Nope, he obviously indicated that the richest 1% is paying for it with raised taxes, hence "at the expence of". It's obviously not true as everyone would be paying for it through taxes, but it's still you who looks stupid.
2020-02-29 01:56
#11
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Taxing people more who earn over $29,000 dollars, as he said he would do, is not the 1%. Free college education will encourage people to go to college who don't need to, who don't want to, who aren't smart enough to and they will spend years wasting their time skipping class, drinking, shooting drugs and shagging at the expense of the taxpayer. Of the 10 richest billionaires in America, 7 are Democrats. Interesting don't you think? The richest 1% also pay by far the most tax in pure monetary value, as well as helping to create wealth for millions of people through employment. It was estimated in 2018 that the top 1% of Americans pay 37% of total Federal tax. "Free healthcare" means forcing people to give up their personal health insurance plan with no choice in the matter. I thought the USA was founded on freedom, but ok. The Democrats want to keep people poor, so they can tell them that the government, specifically a Democrat government, is the only way to be looked after and get everything given to you. Personally, I would rather pay less tax and choose what to spend my money that I earned on, rather than pay lots of tax and have the government give it back to me in things that I may not want, or worse still, waste it giving pointless crap to other people. Bernie is an old communist and Trump will hammer him in November if he wins the nomination. Trump 2020. Goodness me some leftists are fools.
2020-02-29 00:13
#18
Czech Republic Wer_ 
I haven't readed but your points are invalid
2020-02-29 00:17
#22
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Maybe you should read it then
2020-02-29 00:17
+1. Destroyed with facts
2020-02-29 00:24
that is a lie. he never said that, proof: truthorfiction.com/does-bernie-sanders-p..
2020-02-29 00:17
did you even read what I've linked? He's talking about progressive income tax. On his official site you can find what that actually means in his program: - Progressive income tax rates. Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be: ♣ 40 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000. ♣ 45 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million. ♣ 50 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2014, only 136,000 households, the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.) ♣ 52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2014, only 16,700 households, just 0.02 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.) You can also check BernieTax and plug 29,000 $ here to see..
2020-02-29 00:21
#32
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
This from the man who has only worked out how to fund roughly half of his $50tn spending programme if he gets elected. Taxes will go up for the middle class; it's the only way.
2020-02-29 00:27
i.gyazo.com/27bf49c394b958e7ef36be4a2267.. im sure this website is 100% not biased !!!!!!
2020-02-29 00:20
#26
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
All American media is biased. Some just pretend not to be.
2020-02-29 00:22
Sure btw one of your points is totally not correct "Free healthcare" (or "Universal health care")means forcing people to give up their personal health insurance plan with no choice in the matter. I thought the USA was founded on freedom, but ok. "Free healthcare" just means that all people have access to basic healhcare without paying thousands in hospital bills for example. We have "free healthcare" in germany and there are still a lot of people that have private insurance.
2020-02-29 00:26
#34
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Not if Medicare for All becomes a thing if I've understood correctly.
2020-02-29 00:28
Well thats a bit extreme imo
2020-02-29 00:38
#43
ZywOo | 
Portugal dipz0r 
Medicare for all is just what almost every country in the world have. It's just common sense.
2020-02-29 00:46
Bernie is planning on outlawing private insurance.
2020-02-29 12:53
"Free college education will encourage people to go to college who don't need to, who don't want to, who aren't smart enough to and they will spend years wasting their time skipping class, drinking, shooting drugs and shagging at the expense of the taxpayer" --> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
2020-02-29 00:33
#69
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Canada ProvexPyker 
"Free college education will encourage people to go to college who don't need to" Need? If they don't need to why are they going? I seriously doubt this will even happen. Who it does encourage are people that need to go but could not because of a broken system. "Who don't want to" It also allows for those that DO want to and could not do it before. Your telling me there's someone that doesn't want to go to college and will still go? What are you saying dude. The majority, if not all, the people it's encouraging are people that want to go. "Who aren't smart enough" What does cost have to do with acceptance? I don't see the correlation at all. There's no change to the acceptance requirements. The people that are smart enough and could not afford it before, or didn't get the chance, can do it now. You act as if cost is the only requirement to get into college. "they will spend years wasting their time skipping class, drinking, shooting drugs and shagging" Someone jelly? It's college, people still do that regardless and you act like everyone will start doing this for all their years at college. Get real "at the expense of the taxpayer" At the expense of Wallstreet.
2020-02-29 17:21
#73
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
There are plenty of college degrees that are somewhat useless in that they don't actually improve your career job/earnings prospects, particularly some liberal arts degrees. It's the same within the UK university system. Few things in life sell something to people like being free; people will think "why not?" I guarantee some courses/colleges are under-subscribed and would be happy to accept more students if the government were paying the fees for them to go. I have no reason to be jealous of people who enjoy that stuff. It's up to people how they live their lives, but if my above points hold then there's little incentive to study hard and earn your degree when you don't really care what you get out of it. Again, people will care more if they're accruing debt whilst they study. If you don't care about your studies, you'll get involved in recreational activities, some of which include the ones I mentioned. At the expense of the taxpayer, and taxes will logically have to go up for the middle class if any Democrat gets elected given their spending plans. As I said in #11, the top 1% pay a large amount of total tax. I'm not saying it's good that people come out of college with $100k+ of debt but I don't think free college education is the answer.
2020-02-29 17:46
#74
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Yes there are those degrees at every college. Are they the most sought after degrees? Ofc not. Why? Because people know there's no success with it. People will have more access to degrees that are highly sought after and will pay well. Under-subscribed colleges? What does this mean? I doubt they are the most sought after eitherway. Sure they can lower their acceptance requirement, but still they would have no incentive for people to join when they hold no reputation and are barely a competitor. People will go where they can get the most success, and that is at the most well funded and reputable colleges who will keep high acceptance requirements. If they don't care, they won't stay in college for long. Simple as that. The ones that do care will prosper. Heck they might even have more time for competitions, clubs, and opportunity events that they previously could not. Does the cost play something on their work ethic? Sure it does, but it doesn't have to be negatively. At the expense of tax payers that don't have their tax money going towards the free college plan?
2020-02-29 18:21
#48
World Jeza 
The whole world is collapsing into the most petty American style partisan politics, pretty sad really. There was a time where either American party could have enacted a socialised healthcare system. Now if one side says something, the other must oppose it. I see people post stuff about how it's not 'free' because it will be funded by tax increases and shit like that, but it seems crazy to me that people don't realise that the current system is already costing the average American more money. Almost no matter who you are, you will be paying less. The only people who benefit from the current system are private healthcare insurers, private hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and the politicians who take kickbacks from all of the above.
2020-02-29 00:55
#70
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Canada ProvexPyker 
+11
2020-02-29 17:21
#52
ropz | 
Spain JLenny47 
Wait, I'm not into all that's going on in NA, just know the typical "I'm once again asking for your financial support" and all that, but is he actually willing to do something good for his country? And people still want trump?
2020-02-29 00:59
i'm a person that has a strong leftist bias, but with every day I find myself less and less of Bernie supporter. Majority of ideas are only strong hypotheticals, and not viable solutions. Take wealth tax as an example - I find it, practically, not enforceable. The idea is to tax 8% on people with a net worth over $1b. The thing is though, that majority of the net worth for most of the billionaires is nonphysical. Bezos has a net worth of about 122b, and 118b of it is purely Amazon stock. So the state can either seize some stock, cause a power struggle in majority of the companies and do literally nothing with it.. Or have the owners sell their stock and lead to a crash we haven't seen in some time. I'd still be glad to see him elected though. However, I think that way too many people take his promises way too seriously - I can't see even a fully DEM congress pass the most controversial of his proposals.
2020-02-29 01:18
Lol nice bait I'm going to go try now
2020-02-29 01:19
because the "free" healthcare will be utter shit unless the taxes go up to 50%. at that point, id rather pay for my private health care, thank you very much. cry is free to those too lazy to work for their own money, thats on them same can go for college. have fun getting a job thats making u more than 35k a year coming out of an average state university
2020-02-29 01:49
Because I as a college student don't want to pay for the retards around me getting degrees in useless shit like lesbian dance theory. The redistribution of wealth is morally corrupt. IDC about free health care as long as it's better than Canada's and it doesn't affect us as the #1 country for effective medical treatment.
2020-02-29 01:52
#72
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Canada ProvexPyker 
You won't be paying for them to get shit degrees, it's Wallstreet that will so that you won't be paying anything to your college. You act like getting shit degrees is the trend nowadays wtf when that's definitely the least sought after degrees.
2020-02-29 17:32
It doesn't matter. Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Programmers, Nursing, Ph.D. students, whatever have the capability to make money and pay for their education. Obviously it's way too fucking expensive but that's because we're giving massive amounts of money to administration positions. I'm fundamentally opposed to anyone being forced to pay financial aid to something they don't believe in. I don't believe gender studies degrees are useful to anyone. Whether it is through my trading in the stock market or some socialist wealth tax your violating people's principles, that's how I see it anyway. If you want to save money go to a good community college near where you live and then transfer. I go to one and since my income is below a certain point and my grades are decent they actually pay me to go there; something unavailable to rich people. I actually think that's not a bad system. Things like health care I see the moral argument to socialize. Though I don't know a lot about the economy so the logistics are probably pretty complicated and iDK how it would work. The college I see no moral argument for.
2020-02-29 22:08
It's always so funny watching these depressed frail soyboys from the left thinking their life will improve because of affordable health care and college. Here are the facts: it won't, your life will still be shit, you'll give away a huge amount of your monthly income so 1% of the population can get medical treatment, and so a big percentage of the population can get useless degrees. Anyone that is SLIGHTLY SMART in the US is able to afford healthcare, it's not even expensive. And, again, anyone SLIGHTLY SMART is able to pay for their college bills/loans by using the degrees they got. Meaning your tax money will go to dumb people that can't even get decent-paying jobs to afford health care, and even dumber people that choose EXPENSIVE college courses that are WORTHLESS and don't bring any income. FUCK dumb people, understand?
2020-02-29 02:04
I think you forgot about it also being at the expense of the other 99%.
2020-02-29 12:48
youtu.be/ytVWMF-_SiI First hand account of what happened in Cuba.
2020-02-29 22:09
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