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The problem of MIBR?
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Finland Cloud9_1_Major 
What is it?
2020-03-26 23:43
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the are not onliners
2020-03-26 23:43
yeah win games in online on lan 0-2 vs Chaos not onliners
2020-03-26 23:51
it was smooya so 2-0 no smoya 1-2
2020-03-27 16:26
So what is the excuse for all their losses on LAN?
2020-03-27 16:47
??????????? What losses?
2020-03-27 16:48
Chaos Flashpoint 1 Complexity 3 maps DHO Anaheim NiP in Blast Cs_summit 5 ESL pro league finals s10 ECS s8 CAC SSIL s8 V4 Etc All their LAN experience for the padt couple of years.
2020-03-27 16:55
Flukes
2020-03-27 17:26
For 2.5 years?
2020-03-27 17:33
Correct You will see in Rio what happens when MIBR doesn't get fluke upsetted
2020-03-27 17:34
The only win they have since they became MIBR was Zotac Cup. That's the level they've been at for the past couple of years
2020-03-27 17:34
Bookmarked
2020-03-27 17:35
So MIBR is just in a perpetual slump?
2020-03-27 17:40
Perpetual unluck I would term it
2020-03-27 17:41
I would say perpetual disappointment and lack of facing the truth. To solve a problem you first have to recognize it
2020-03-27 17:43
+1 Sad!
2020-03-27 16:48
#36
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Europe TENNA1 
they are just really bad
2020-03-27 16:50
#2
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Cambodia CyBeRv! 
disband now!
2020-03-26 23:44
+1
2020-03-26 23:45
#23
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Brazil SemPaciencia 
+1
2020-03-27 16:38
#3
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Brazil HateSmithzz 
just bad
2020-03-26 23:45
#30
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Denmark FazeUpAssDown 
Flag doesnt check out??
2020-03-27 16:45
#5
Brazil FLXG 
its actually unbelievable how many times they die completely blind, still the guy with the flashes on their side ALWAYS DIES WITHOUT USING IT, and they go 1 by 1. Its sad
2020-03-26 23:46
#6
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Brazil GRACE1 
fallen fer taco mey and kng
2020-03-26 23:46
Fallen having a hilariously outdated view of the game both inside and outside the server. Lack of firepower compounded by lack of confidence since they get rekt every time they play a decent team. Terrible CS fundamentals, even their positioning is laughable. Free meyern.
2020-03-26 23:47
i dont think that it is firepower, both kng and meyern were topfraggers in their older teams and taco was performing well in liquid too
2020-03-27 16:52
It's called two faced toileto. He is outdated and overrated. He destroys all of brazil's up and coming talent. He is doing gods work and saving the world from brazil ever having another tier 1 team.
2020-03-26 23:47
+1 I still remember those dark times when lg were #1 and hltv was attacked by brazilian swarm...Bruh
2020-03-26 23:50
It was terrible mens. The darkest time in cs history.
2020-03-27 16:56
everything, fallen strats are outdated, kng cant hit anything 50% of the time, fer is ok but hes not consistent either, meyern is shit under fallens system and taco is taco also they kicked zews kekw
2020-03-26 23:48
#10
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Brazil Kly(u) 
/disband
2020-03-26 23:48
are you fakeflagging or just a Braziling who's lost all hope?
2020-03-27 16:23
#21
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Brazil SemPaciencia 
lost all hope since 2018
2020-03-27 16:37
#72
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Brazil Kly(u) 
Lost all hope
2020-04-02 03:18
#12
kennyS | 
France Bituron 
Their fanbase
2020-03-26 23:51
good point lad
2020-03-26 23:51
Brain iq average 20 skill
2020-03-26 23:51
Fallen igl
2020-03-27 16:26
#22
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Russia MeowZer 
problem is fallen
2020-03-27 16:37
#24
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Brazil SemPaciencia 
+1
2020-03-27 16:38
#25
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Taco is trash and that’s the biggest issue.
2020-03-27 16:39
Haven't we've heard similar stories ever since their era? FNX was the problem, biltz was the problem, Stewie2k was the problem, Tarik was the problem, swag was the problem, Zews was the problem, Lucas1 was the problem (might have missed about 20 players)...
2020-03-27 16:49
#43
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Taco has been the problem as soon as lg/sk stopped winning. He was bad in every team. Look what liquid did as soon as they traded him. MIBR wasn’t that bad of a team with stew and Tarik. Didn’t they climb into the top5 at one point or has a couple top 5 events?? Now the only way they get top5 is if it’s a 5 team tournament. Taco can’t hold anysite he has terrible decisions making terrible timing and horrific aim. He’s the only player in cs who makes the Sg not look op because he’s not even good with that gun ether. Sure fallen and fer aren’t as good anymore but they are still good players. Taco is the problem and always has been.
2020-03-27 17:11
Do you watch csgo or just read HLTV forum? You do know that he has the shittiest role in the team right and that his game style, role and part never has been about mechanical skill right? Yet he can top score from time to time. It is a structural issue and not an individual issue.
2020-03-27 17:18
#54
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United States Trump2020KAG 
What’s the shittest role??? Entry???? Support??? Look at the top 10 teams and tell me who in them teams taco is a better player. NONE. btw the supposed support role is BS. Taco isn’t even in the top 25 in flashes. But hey keep sucking his dick just like every team does with him on it
2020-03-27 17:52
Could you tell me one player in MIBR that you could put into any top 15 teams? Their issues was there when he was in Liquid as well so if removing him or adding him have no consequences then perhaps he is not the issue???
2020-03-27 17:54
#56
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United States Trump2020KAG 
How can any player on that team be good with a complete bot? Why was every player they pick up good until they joined MIBR. liquid is a prime example. Astralis beat them every game and a lot of the times badly. 16-5 and such. Look what they did the very first event. Imagine playing a site with someone who is trash. That puts so much pressure on u and all the rotating players. Taco can’t win a straight up duel which means he can’t hold sites. The bottom line is he’s trash and hurts everyone around him.
2020-03-27 18:04
You started to touch on it but sadly you strayed away from the actual issue. Liquid changed their entire approach with AdreN and Stewie2k, compared to how they played with Zews and Taco. They are now one of the most insanely skilled lineups ever to touch the game, but they don't have stability. How come all players who leave MIBR do better no matter teams they join? Sure Taco is not a good mechanical player, but who can they put in that position when the error is the entire protocol of the game? Their approach is just bad and predictable.
2020-03-27 18:17
#58
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United States Trump2020KAG 
We both have our own views on why the team is bad. The bottom line is the team is extremely bad and for The hundredth time it seems they need changes. I still think they should have gave the stew Tarik lineup more time.
2020-03-27 18:25
They have tried almost everything except new playbook or new IGL.
2020-03-27 18:40
#66
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Agree that’s deff one of the problems. Let me ask u this If we take any top10 teams igl and add them on MIBR u think they will become a top5 team? Presume everyone speaks same language.
2020-03-27 18:53
Not necessarily since it isn't just the strat book that is the issue. It is the hierarchy. I think Fer needs to leave as well. But as I sais: I think this lineup right now got the pieces to get the puzzle done to become a top 10 team again. But the way they approach the game is a bit obsolete. Did you read the post about Zews? He vaguely said it was complex or complicated. To me that is his way of saying it is a cultural thing within the org and/or team. So changing one or two players will only work if it is one or two "strong" personalities leaving
2020-03-27 19:31
#26
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Portugal R4nger)( 
F A L L E N
2020-03-27 16:40
#29
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Brazil SemPaciencia 
Sim, tuga.
2020-03-27 16:41
It is complex issues with group dynamics combined with hunger to adapt. I don't have any doubt they got hunger to win and become good again, but they don't adapt with time. They got all the pieces to fix this. They have had it for a long time. But that would mean they need to fix internal hierarchy within the team, fix how they communicate, start over with their protocol and more or less start over as if they were a new team.
2020-03-27 16:40
#28
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Brazil SemPaciencia 
Disband is the only solution. How cannot anyone see it? The only ones who weren't touched through those last 4 years are fallen and fer. Fallen is absolute pure shit... I said this on a brazilian group once and I was basically crucified... Brazilians just don't open their eyes. "hurr durrr trust in the verdadeiro hurrr" So maybe the biggest problem it's the fanbase itself. They're masochists
2020-03-27 16:42
Could be that Death's pride is the issue. He is the manager of the team and each time they find a problem they try to work around the problem instead of solving the problem.. I think it is possible for MIBR to be good with this roster, but that means changes to the core concept of how they approach the game. I doubt FalleN, Fer and Death wanna do that
2020-03-27 16:51
#39
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Brazil SemPaciencia 
+1 Maybe, considerating that zews was basically shut down, I guess I can say that the organization shares a big slice of the problem. Either way, I don't care anymore. It's just not worthy. I started rooting for furia and faze even before coldzera. They are not the best, but at least they show some content. Mibr deserves a worse fate than VP.
2020-03-27 16:55
FalleN is washed up and so is the rest of his team
2020-03-27 16:48
#42
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Brazil xxAxx 
Fallen, but no fallen no Br cs
2020-03-27 16:57
FALLEN.
2020-03-27 17:34
They're done, nothing can save them, Furia is the future.
2020-03-27 18:28
lmao
2020-03-27 18:42
i dont understand why brazilians love so much mibr and forget Furia mibr trash for 2.5 years, while Furia is a tier 1.5/2 team and at least make some grand finals in t1 events
2020-03-27 18:30
#65
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Brazil Supermarcos03 
We love furia too but mibr has a history with BR people, cause of LG/SK times... We hate to see them playing that bad!!
2020-03-27 18:52
#71
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Brazil P3dR1Nh0 
+1
2020-03-27 21:24
#63
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Brazil JgzMcz 
fallen.
2020-03-27 18:46
#64
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Brazil Supermarcos03 
I think is Lack of creativity They don't make Fake entrys change between bombs or read the enemys correctly never!! All the time you see them taking so much time to do something (playing as TR) that with 15 seconds they have to cut some smoke in an bombsite and die everyone as fast as a blink. Lack of studying the game of Utilities, They Die a lot while fully blinded or with utilities in their hand, There were a round yesterday that Mey and Taco entered Like bots, and without one bang on "cimento" on B of overpass Stewie killed them both withouting losing 1 HP I'm a silver and I wouldn't enter that pixel without a bang Theres a problem with comunication too like in the game x Chaos Fer cleaned bomb A twice and the bomb were dropped on B IDK why and they lost the rounds. I think they should Keep the roster, Fallen Fer and TACO already showed that they can play tier 1 CS - KnG is the best player of the roster right now and Mey has a g8 aim and does a lot of important frags. But CS is more Brain than mecanics they should study more and be more rapport. Not making roster comparations but Astralis was a sh*tty team when was TSM and in the beggining of the brand until they learned how to play with each other and they keep they're stats fresh everytime with some new Sh*t (Again not saying mibr will be the new Astralis but they can get a lot better with effort)
2020-03-27 18:50
"lack of creativity" exactly, they're still trying to play like they're on top of the world and not trying hard to create something new, the've been doing the same stuff for ages now I agree kng is the best on the roster right now, imo fallen should be moved to coach but i just don't know who to replace him with, I think meyern is a great talent as well, imo they should focus their strats around kng and meyern right now, they are already losing pretty much everything so taking that risk wouldn't be a problem
2020-03-27 19:36
#70
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Brazil Supermarcos03 
we have to understand that mibr is Fallen/Fer team, everything that we think outside that is only fantasy or a dream. The problem IMO is not the players is what they're doing in the game, Tier 1 teams dosen't move one centimeter without a propouse, mibr a lot of times seems like they're lost on the map and then the time is to short to do an exec proprierly or one smoke blocks the way and kills the round That's why I thing Zews (F total!!!) departure is a good thing for mibr they need anybody with new ideas
2020-03-27 21:17
VAC probably found their cheat and they waiting for their coder to make a new one.
2020-03-27 19:38
for 2 years? I aren't think this
2020-04-02 03:24
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