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AWP - NERF
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Australia HighRate 
The AWP is OP. How can valve balance the sniper? 1. Make it less accurate while no-scoping. It’s too OP in close battles now. 2. Make it a bit slower in some way. Slower to walk with, slower to zoom, slower to switch weapon to an from. 3. Maybe lower the price at the same time. What nerfs would you like to see?
2020-03-28 12:58
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#1
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
maybe just dont dry peek it like an idiot?
2020-03-28 12:58
#3
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Finland Faust_fSt 
name doesn't check out
2020-03-28 12:59
didnt spect that from 1quser
2020-03-28 12:59
#61
Twistzz | 
United Kingdom sjerbz 
that 1 brain cell said something useful damn
2020-03-28 13:49
hello sjerbz, it is me luc from phoenix esports, what are the odds
2020-03-28 16:10
|_| <- that big hi btw :)
2020-03-28 16:13
whats up man how you doing?
2020-03-28 16:27
im good bro
2020-03-28 16:49
damn man what a wonderful conversation
2020-03-30 19:55
+1
2020-03-30 20:30
+1
2020-03-28 13:54
-1
2020-03-28 14:13
+1
2020-03-28 16:05
+1
2020-03-29 15:30
#267
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Netherlands Y0r1ck 
not expected from french mm
2020-03-30 18:48
#288
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
bro thats reunion :(((
2020-03-30 20:03
+1
2020-03-30 19:24
#2
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Mongolia Mongol! 
Why should it be nerfed for fuck sake?
2020-03-28 12:59
people are stupid
2020-03-28 14:16
I wouldn't nerf it for fuck sake, makes more sense to nerf it for the sake of restoring some balance.
2020-03-28 14:28
just flash lol
2020-03-28 16:06
Because Silvers peek the AWP one at a time with no flashes, smokes or mollies, and then die. So it's OP.
2020-03-28 18:29
#5
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
deals 50 dmg to you if you miss 20% slower running speed than negev less accurate when no scoping 1 bullet 1 in reserve 2 hit in head 5 hit in body 7 hit in leg for kill not perfectly accurate when scoped damage dropout after 600 units is 0 damage reload time 20 seconds
2020-03-28 13:00
#9
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Australia HighRate 
Hahaha I like your thinking. Having 5 bullets in the mag would be good. And slow run speed is good as well
2020-03-28 13:03
Forgot to also add an scope to the bizon, make it have 100% armor pen and double base damage.
2020-03-28 13:07
#18
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
+200% faster running and walking speed than knife
2020-03-28 13:08
Also infinite ammo and 1750 fire rate
2020-03-28 13:08
#22
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
300 bullets 900 in reserve
2020-03-28 13:10
at least 0,2 seconds reload time then, otherwise to weak
2020-03-28 13:11
#24
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
you cant take damage while reloading
2020-03-28 13:11
and gives another 50% movement speed boost for 2 seconds after finishing reload
2020-03-28 13:12
#26
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
and double jump
2020-03-28 13:12
no recoil and perfect running and jumping accuracy
2020-03-28 13:14
#30
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
it costs 0$
2020-03-28 13:16
#88
Magisk | 
Pakistan exzish 
$16000 kill money
2020-03-28 14:10
#259
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Russia ImAmnesiac 
have random crits
2020-03-30 12:47
#277
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Russia nobody_cars 
all walls can be penetrated with 0% dmg loss
2020-03-30 19:24
#301
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United Kingdom Vitheeshan 
Still would be weak need to add 20 bullets per second with no recoil or spread
2020-03-30 21:13
real talk here
2020-03-30 19:25
AlphaBrazilian alt-acc?
2020-03-28 13:09
#120
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Sweden quacke 
tbh awp is fine i think but it would be interesting to have a smaller mag and less reserve, it would make it more difficult to use, no spam through walls or smokes etc, people would use it more sparingly
2020-03-28 14:28
+1 no wait.. no no
2020-03-28 16:53
flair doesn’t check out
2020-03-30 20:25
#6
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Turkey Teecanbre 
Don't cry :)
2020-03-28 13:00
ok wannabe woxic
2020-03-28 13:19
#46
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Turkey Teecanbre 
You don't even have a player to care for :)
2020-03-28 13:30
I guess he has oskar
2020-03-28 13:56
#73
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Turkey Teecanbre 
hmmm ı forgot. woxic better than oskar :D
2020-03-28 14:00
Mouz with oskar>>Mouz with woxic
2020-03-28 14:32
#158
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Turkey Teecanbre 
mouz with woxic PEEK:2 TIME:10 WEEK mouz with oskar PEEK:2 TIME:1 WEEK
2020-03-28 15:50
#124
2020-03-28 16:01
woxic > finland scene
2020-03-30 19:20
Who?
2020-03-30 19:40
make awp spray hard pls valve mens(
2020-03-28 13:00
no oneshots below top chest
2020-03-28 13:02
#11
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Australia HighRate 
Yes. Maybe under the waist not a one shot kill
2020-03-28 13:04
its.... literally that ........... its called a "leg shot"..........
2020-03-28 16:41
#197
2020-03-30 17:40
#265
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Australia HighRate 
#411
2020-03-30 17:50
cba to scroll down that much
2020-03-30 20:15
#10
frozen | 
Czech Republic StetD 
No nerfs needed honestly. Just cuz you cant handle enemy awpers or you cant play awp yourself doesnt mean it needs nerf :) if you hate it so much, rather than calling for unnecessary nerf learn to play with/against it or go play another game.
2020-03-28 13:03
#14
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Australia HighRate 
It’s too easy to play with. I use it and get so many no scope kills when enemies try to rush me. I just think it’s OP. Don’t try to insult
2020-03-28 13:05
#128
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Sweden quacke 
There are plenty of bad AWPers peeking too slow, not holding the right angles, low reaction speed, not expecting enemy pushes, not moving enough, not flicking well enough, not going for quickscopes, getting tunnel vision etc. Once you learn these things you're a good AWPer. Until then buying the AWP is just a waste of money. That's the same for any weapon, but since the other weapons are cheaper it's not as high risk to buy it. There's a new gen of AWPers emerging like ZywOo, hallzerk and sometimes also s1mple, being more aggressive and using the weapon to its full potential. It's not unbalanced, but people just need to get used to that playstyle. That playstyle is based on the enemy not expecting your push so it's easy to counter it by keeping your head cool and being prepared for the pushes, holding straight angles etc, but most people just get mad when someone pushes a smoke with an AWP or preaim common positions. To counter a good AWP: Don't peek them unless you have a chance of being faster than them. Play off-angles rather than holding common corners. Example maybe don't hold Mirage short from the ladder room, it's an easy kill from chair. Instead maybe hold further back, or put a one-way in window. Or instead of holding the regular angle from Cache quad to main, maybe play on the little ledge in NBK or on site, maybe even from fork or heaven. Just give it a few more months and the AWP will be perfectly balanced when people learn how to counter it.
2020-03-28 14:37
#130
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Australia HighRate 
no offense but everything you said is really basic. I am talking about it being OP in tier 1 pro games. Not talking about playing with or against it myself.
2020-03-28 14:39
#134
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Sweden quacke 
Again, ZywOo, hallzerk are examples of players who have learned to use it to it's full potential. It's just like learning how to make a new smoke wall or how to do a proper execute on a site. It's skill based and takes practice and experience. Since ZywOo hasn't been on the scene for that long teams are only just getting used to it, and hallzerk is a good example of someone using a similar playstyle who is really new to the scene, and more will come. I think the time of defensive AWPers like device and JW is over and teams and viewers are gonna need to get used to these new playstyles.
2020-03-28 14:44
#136
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Australia HighRate 
JW defensive AWPer lol. Defensive AWP style still works very well. Device have been top 5 for years with very defensive style. And it will always be good at defensive positions as CT. The AWP is too dynamic as it is now. should at least be worse accuracy with no scope to make it less viable close battle.
2020-03-28 14:50
#241
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Sweden quacke 
That's possible, although I can't say I specifically agree with you though since I never hit my noscopes lol. I do play it on medium and close ranges though pretty successfully, usually quickscoping on close ranges. I think that fast paced players with good movement have always been very good in CS, and when you combine it with an AWP it's quite powerful. I'm still inclined to say it isn't unbalanced, as noscoping really isn't a good tactic to use consistantly.
2020-03-28 19:34
#216
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United Kingdom Upmost 
But it's not OP in pro games? Thats evident enough from the fact that teams rarely buy more than one awp, and that buying a third is essentially throwing the round.
2020-03-28 16:54
It's not op, it is balanced due to its price
2020-03-28 13:04
#15
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Australia HighRate 
They could lower price and nerf it. Too op when ct get good economy
2020-03-28 13:06
It's not too op when ct get good economy
2020-03-28 13:23
#36
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Australia HighRate 
It is always too op. You are just not good with it
2020-03-28 13:25
Maybe you just don't know how to play against it
2020-03-28 13:27
#45
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Australia HighRate 
I do. Still talking pro scene. I use it when I can because it’s so op
2020-03-28 13:30
If you are talking pro scene then I guess I am pro since it was somehow relevant for you to say that I am not good with it.
2020-03-28 13:32
#57
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Australia HighRate 
If you can’t even play it as ct with good economy you are not good with it.
2020-03-28 13:39
Again, what does my performance matter if you are talking about the pro scene? Besides, what does it matter if I play it or not? You haven't made any points so far other than "it's too good if you have good economy" which you didn't back up by any facts and then you said "it's always too op", contradicting your previous statement and still not backing it up by facts
2020-03-28 13:44
#62
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Australia HighRate 
read the thread and comments.
2020-03-28 13:52
Most of the comments disagree with you
2020-03-28 13:54
#67
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Australia HighRate 
because most people love using the op awp. its like people complaining about the sg all day, its not as easy with the awp anymore. AWP is the easiest way to get high rank. you get so many kills.
2020-03-28 13:57
I mean yes, you could rethink your position when the overwhelming majority disagrees with you. You could also just disregard their arguments and call them awp abusers lmao
2020-03-28 13:59
#79
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Australia HighRate 
so I should listen to stupid kids because they are the majority? that is just stupid. I know how the game is being played at tier 1 and anyone can see that the AWP is op. maybe you are too dumb to understand?
2020-03-28 14:04
Then back it up by factual statements and not just your opinions and anecdotal evidence. You still haven't done that. If the awp was op, then why aren't we seeing 5 man awp setups with high economy ct's? If the awp was op, then why do pro players not complain about it? It being the most powerful weapon in the game DOES NOT MAKE IT OP, it is balanced due to its price.
2020-03-28 14:09
#91
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Australia HighRate 
dude you can´t be serious. 5 man AWP in csgo, how stupid are you? you don´t understand the game at all? How can 5 AWP retake a site? lmao. A lot of pros have opinions about the AWP, being op and different suggestions of nerfing. do you live in a hole?
2020-03-28 14:13
So you are saying the gun is strong in some circumstances and not strong on others? Almost as if the gun was perfectly balanced as it is. Thank you for making my argument for me. Maybe cite some pro players then who talked about the awp recently? Give some evidence, so far your only source is :t "trust me, bro"
2020-03-28 14:18
LOWER THE PRICE HAHAHAH on what planet do u live? just create a steam group with all the other idiots saying "AWP OP"
2020-03-28 13:31
#55
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Australia HighRate 
Nt 0/8
2020-03-28 13:38
ur whole dumbshit thread is 0/8 yes
2020-03-28 13:38
#58
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Australia HighRate 
Nt 0/8
2020-03-28 13:40
Shut up bish
2020-03-28 13:05
#16
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Australia HighRate 
Cry is free
2020-03-28 13:06
you're the one crying
2020-03-28 14:16
#99
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Australia HighRate 
cry is free
2020-03-28 14:17
ok then
2020-03-28 14:20
#20
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Other NDRnews 
Flashbangs exist HighRate :0
2020-03-28 13:09
#27
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Australia HighRate 
I am skilled with AWP. I am talking pro scene. It is too OP on tier 1. No scope has sick accuracy and makes it possible to win vs rifle close battles most of the time. That is just bad balance.
2020-03-28 13:13
#33
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
no scope sick accuracy 0/8
2020-03-28 13:19
#39
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Australia HighRate 
So ez for zywoo and JW to hit all no scope shots in tier 1. That is unbalanced. Rifles should have an advantage close battle
2020-03-28 13:27
Its not OP , you just need to know how to play with it, and play against it and its fine, this discussion is braindead
2020-03-28 13:16
#31
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Netherlands OfficialSEANY 
people that say nurf the awp are so dumb. and probably mge players. get some skill and buy a flash......
2020-03-28 13:17
#41
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Australia HighRate 
You gotta be bad at dodging flashes.
2020-03-28 13:28
you make no sens...
2020-03-28 22:08
#250
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Australia HighRate 
If you get rekt by a flash you got no skill.
2020-03-29 19:52
or you have skill lmao, you dont have to get flashed you just got to get of your angle by the flash
2020-03-30 12:16
#252
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Australia HighRate 
If one flash against you with AWP means you always die you are very bad.
2020-03-30 12:18
bro I am not saying always xd
2020-03-30 12:27
Nt silver
2020-03-28 13:17
lmfao, saying awp is op is the most silverish thing ive ever heard...
2020-03-28 13:27
#40
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Australia HighRate 
You need to watch some tier 1.
2020-03-28 13:28
this +1
2020-03-28 13:29
i am, and because of it i think its a a well made weapon (after the kennyS nerf). +playing it myself on kind of ok level CS (rank 9-10 faceit) its ok, nothing too much to handle as enemy and being pretty good impact wise
2020-03-28 14:24
#117
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Australia HighRate 
I am talking about pro scene. watching games where the awp is deciding too many rounds because its too dynamic.
2020-03-28 14:26
and required a top tier awping level to make the difference, what do you want to do with it? make is a secondary to SG? awp is high cost high impact weapon 20 years of same weapon and shouldnt change no matter what.
2020-03-28 15:40
#153
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Australia HighRate 
you are wrong, it has changed during the years. Talking about small things to make it more balanced. no scope accuracy a bit worse, slightly slower movement and a bit lower price.
2020-03-28 15:43
im playing cs since 2006 and the price has been 4750$... the fact that people adjusted their gameplay to the nerf occurred in 2015 doesnt mean its op. like krieg, since it went into the meta, people who couldnt adjust themself to the meta just cried "op gun op gun" while the one's who did get it good didnt cry about it at all.
2020-03-28 16:19
#178
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Australia HighRate 
Its more like the AWP players that cry about the SG since they now have a actual contending gun on the T side. Its not as easy anymore with AWP. And as you say, the ones that are bad at adjusting and don´t get good with the SG also cries :) Like we see here on hltv every single day. There have been adjustments to the awp during the years, but the prize have been the same I guess.
2020-03-28 16:24
i've barely seen any updates to the awp after kennys' nerf. havent seen pro awpers complainin about SG's tbh, only riflers such as NiKo
2020-03-28 16:27
#181
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Australia HighRate 
I think the awp is faster now than back in 1.6 I dont have the stats. On pro lvl awp is still too op for the pros to complain about the sg. I think its mostly silvers here on hltv that complains about the sg. Niko always have strong opinions :)
2020-03-28 16:31
lmao strong opinions, he's the best aimer CS has ever knows with all the respect to the others. awp is just awp, they way it always has been, i cannot find a reason to complain about any of the weapons, just like sg was there all of the time but the price didnt seem realistic until valve did the amazing thing of lowering the price, they didnt buff any stats and just made is purchasable. i really am enjoying cs now more then ever.
2020-03-28 18:27
#243
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Australia HighRate 
yes, I like the game now as well. Just would like to see the AWP a little bit slower in some way. Niko is good yes, just said strong opinions :)
2020-03-28 19:44
lower rate of fire, lower base dmg to 98 so only belly and head is 1shot
2020-03-28 13:29
#52
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Australia HighRate 
+1
2020-03-28 13:35
awp always has been OP, always, xD even in pro level u see how OP it is, when u see S1mple, Dev1ce o Zywoo with awp getting 3 and 4 frags per round ez and pros use "flash" "smokes" etc and still getting rekt by AWP. If u make AWP worse u will see how many trashes and "gods" level 10 will play, without awp many people become trash as fuck cuz. At least we have krieg hope they dont nerf it, cuz they only real gun to deal with awps at any distance, u can peek them without being afraid of getting rekted.
2020-03-28 13:30
#51
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Australia HighRate 
Yes +1 This is exactly why the Krieg is needed. All the main AWP players crying on this forum cause it’s not as easy anymore with AWP. As you say, it’s always been OP. Watching tier 1 proves it like you say. Worse no scope, not a one shot below waist and slightly slower speed would balance the weapon and game.
2020-03-28 13:35
Its funny you complain about AWP but you play krieg. Literally the most brainless weapon in the entire game
2020-03-28 14:07
xD Krieg has recoil at least, it takes more time to play better with krieg than AWP...xD so, AWP still OP and krieg is quite good to deal with it.
2020-03-28 14:17
Ak/a1/a4/awp all require a shitton of practice to become decent on them. Krieg doesn't. Its braindead weapon and super easy, thats the reason people in lower ranks were using it before becoming popular in competitive cs. You suck at cs.
2020-03-28 14:21
U getting rekt by krieg and cry then u say i suck in cs LMAO Xd GET better.
2020-03-28 14:23
"awp require a shitton of practice" LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
2020-03-28 14:23
#226
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Venezuela Jorge_ 
+1
2020-03-28 17:15
I mean at your low rank games you could play every single gun and it will be OP. Idk why ur complaining
2020-03-28 14:59
"awp require a shitton of practice" xDDDDDDDDDD good joke s1mple xd
2020-03-28 17:32
Funny is people complaining about krieg, thats more fun tbh, always has been OP, good gun to deal against AWP ez.
2020-03-28 14:18
#47
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Throw flash?? And you dont need any of these things.. also too accurate in close distane while noscoping??? Wtf? Literally any gun is better in close than awp
2020-03-28 13:31
#53
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Australia HighRate 
You need to watch some tier 1
2020-03-28 13:36
#49
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
The awp being 'op' is balanced by the fact that it's expensive. /close
2020-03-28 13:32
#54
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Australia HighRate 
No
2020-03-28 13:37
+1
2020-03-28 16:51
#227
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Venezuela Jorge_ 
nice faded Netherlands flag, also +1 men)
2020-03-28 17:16
#244
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
Ty Colombia with some decorations, much love men)
2020-03-28 20:20
#246
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Venezuela Jorge_ 
Ty men, I knew that was coming
2020-03-29 15:00
#60
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Romania Summerparty23 
hahaha another silver who is destroyed by someone who is using an awp go back to your cave
2020-03-28 13:47
#68
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Australia HighRate 
You need to watch some tier 1
2020-03-28 13:58
#77
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Romania Summerparty23 
i am wathing tier 1 matches.The awp is perfect and doesnt need a nerf
2020-03-28 14:04
#80
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Australia HighRate 
slight nerf needed. not make it useless but more balanced.
2020-03-28 14:05
yeah yeah, youre probably bot with rifles. Good players want guns that accentuate skill and noobs like you want op augs, kriegs and awps. Maybe go watch some fortnite?
2020-03-28 14:08
#87
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Romania Summerparty23 
i am actually playing with awp.Maybe stfu and go play minecraft where u dont have good.
2020-03-28 14:10
Lol ofc noob with awp will defend his gun. If valve would remove all noob guns, then lot of pros retire.
2020-03-28 14:12
noob guns ? you made me bot with rifle and now noob with awp.Ypu are fcking delusional.Go back to your cave and play with silvers
2020-03-28 14:30
I would lile to see it cost more, but its ok atm
2020-03-28 13:57
#72
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Australia HighRate 
I dont think the price matters that much. It needs to be worse in certain situations. like close battle and maybe a bit slower so its not as easy to dodge flash and repeak fast.
2020-03-28 13:59
I think it would be cool if the awp was only economically viable about half the buy rounds, thaf way players like jame or guardian actually have to rifle
2020-03-28 14:04
#83
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Australia HighRate 
the game is more fun to watch with less awp so I agree to some extent.
2020-03-28 14:07
#69
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Other KlNG 
> Make it less accurate while no-scoping. I totally agree
2020-03-28 13:58
#74
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Australia HighRate 
+1
2020-03-28 14:00
bro its 4750 dollars. if you compare it to an sg which is 3000 dollars. Both one shots in head. sg fires wayyyy faster, has 30 bullets, has scope, is very accurate. you are just bad and dont shoulder peak
2020-03-28 13:59
#75
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Australia HighRate 
comparing those two weapons is just dumb. its two different play styles. I think you need to get better at the game. Us good players dont fall for shoulder peak or we make the shot. watch some tier 1 to understand the game better.
2020-03-28 14:02
Not actually that dumb
2020-03-28 14:06
you gotta love this kids who gets rekt by awpers in mm and come back to hltv to cry its op. if its that op use it urself aswell and stfu srsly stop being so cringy.
2020-03-28 14:02
#86
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Australia HighRate 
I do use it and its easy to get a lot of kills with it. But on the pro lvl it is too op. JW, zywoo and device are having such an easy time. even in close battles. burgers should not cry as much as you do. You need to watch some tier 1 to understand the game.
2020-03-28 14:09
awp has always been the way it is, since 1.6. if u dont like it feel free to quit the game, stop fucking whining. its a fucking sniper, and it costs alot, its suppose to kill with 1 bullet. and how exactly zywoo, jw and device are having easy time? they are shit latley. go and cry somewhere else, or fucking grow up. u can claim to be good with it all u want, its pretty ovbious u get rekt in mm alot
2020-03-28 14:11
#93
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Australia HighRate 
haha little ragekid burger. nt 0/8
2020-03-28 14:15
u can call me burger 24/7 , im not 5 yo to be insulted by this.
2020-03-28 14:15
#97
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Australia HighRate 
you obviously have rage issues and temper problems. maybe you are 5 yo in your head.
2020-03-28 14:16
rage issues and temper problems, all according to me just being sick of this whining threads about awp. did u consider being a psychologist?
2020-03-28 14:17
#104
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Australia HighRate 
I think you are sick in other areas as well. starting to cry because you find a thread that don´t agrees with you. That is what a 5 yo does.
2020-03-28 14:19
u mean like u starting to cry because u get rekt in mm?
2020-03-28 14:20
#112
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Australia HighRate 
no, like you cry just now. I am talking about the pro scene, where the AWP is op. I can counter it to a good lvl but for the pros its really hard.
2020-03-28 14:24
poor guy u are worried about the pro scene? which team do own? who tf cares u are worried about the pro scene lmao? maybe its not u getting rekt in mm, maybe u just lost ur 5 dollar bet cause the team u picked got rekt by an awper? who knows
2020-03-28 14:27
#121
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Australia HighRate 
hahaha you are such a loser kid. I just think it has too much impact on the pro games. like in close battle it should not have so high accuracy with no scope. Its so easy to hit those shots. A rifle should have more advantage close battle.
2020-03-28 14:29
+1
2020-03-28 14:19
Silver noob spotted.
2020-03-28 14:21
#113
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Australia HighRate 
cry is free
2020-03-28 14:24
You are only crying here silver buddy
2020-03-28 14:41
#133
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Australia HighRate 
cry more kid.
2020-03-28 14:43
Why should I. You here crying about game like pathetic looser.
2020-03-28 14:50
#138
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Australia HighRate 
some more tears pls
2020-03-28 14:52
Yeah cry more salty boy
2020-03-28 14:56
#142
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Australia HighRate 
lol delusional kid. cry more.
2020-03-28 15:10
You crying here
2020-03-28 15:10
#144
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Australia HighRate 
#142
2020-03-28 15:11
#143
2020-03-28 15:11
#146
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Australia HighRate 
grow up kid.
2020-03-28 15:21
#114
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Australia Ohnorepo 
I'm yet to see an examples of how it is OP. It's the same price as a full T side players buy for just a weapon. The existence of kriegs has already diminished the AWPs role in high tier games. It's incredibly easy to neutralize with utility. Sure, some players can get cheeky and push a smoke with it, but other than some savants at the game, you are cut off the second a smoke blocks you off.
2020-03-28 14:25
#123
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Australia HighRate 
read the comments. too good accuracy with no scope, 1v1 vs rifle close battle is too easy for awp. rifle should have a good advantage. "It's incredibly easy to neutralize with utility" How many pro games have you watched? Smokes don´t last forever.
2020-03-28 14:32
#165
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Australia Ohnorepo 
There are hundreds of comments here dude. I'm reading an entire thread for a short sighted statement. Unfortunately we can't really have an objective argument about what we think of the close range accuracy of no scope AWPing because that just falls to opinions. Many say it's mostly based on luck, and you're saying it's too easy. What we know is at the highest level of competition where the skill difference is almost negligible, people make a big deal about no scopes. So it must be a pretty rare thing based on that one metric we can actually measure. Smokes aren't meant to last forever. 15ish seconds is enough time to position yourself past an AWPs sightlines. That's the whole point. Oh. AWPer is Jungle? Lets smoke it and take site. Now the player needs to retake with an AWP. I'm not sure why you asked "How many pro games have you watched?". Enough to see smokes and flashes used to take sites. Enough to see utility block site takes, and retakes. My argument was never smokes last forever.
2020-03-28 16:03
#173
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Australia HighRate 
no, you should not have to read all comments. Ask what you want my opinion on. Of course we can have an argument, everyone have different opinions. The goal can´t be to change the other persons opinion at all times. I play AWP a lot and I dont think its hard to hit no scope close range. You see pros hitting almost every close ranged no scope shot. I asked how many pro games you watched because you said "It's incredibly easy to neutralize with utility" But if you watch pro games its not easy to neutralize awps. They still have high impact, because you can play around smokes and dodge flashes or hide and retake with team. AWP still has a very high impact, even if the enemy team has full utility.
2020-03-28 16:14
#221
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World Beard43 
The krieg has actually had no effect on the impact of the AWP. It's only reduced the AK-47 impact, now the krieg and AK are fairly equal for kills in pro CS at around 20% each where the AK was about 40% of all kills before players started using the krieg. The AWP is genuinely OP in terms of how good it is, but the huge price balances it fairly well. The same has happened with the krieg, $300 extra was enough to reduce its use significantly and now it's having the same impact as the AK.
2020-03-28 17:03
Thank you newfags for consistently ruining the game for over 18 years now.
2020-03-28 14:25
#125
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Australia HighRate 
I heard you are one of the biggest trolls on this site. You and sam2k toxic says everyone.
2020-03-28 14:33
Ok Zoomer.
2020-03-28 15:56
#161
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Australia HighRate 
Ok toxic
2020-03-28 15:57
2.second scoop 84 ,damage pls
2020-03-28 14:27
awp should have never been nerfed. if you miss a shot you should die and ez to flash awper. If you slow/dry peek an awp idk what you want exactly. I see so many people still do this tho.
2020-03-28 14:34
#139
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Australia HighRate 
maybe you should die if you are a bot and dont hide after your shot.
2020-03-28 14:55
if the awp hides just nade. If you put yourself in a disadvantageous fight and die then you got the expected outcome. If you are shit at the game you just are. I may be dogshit aim wise but I atleast have the half brain required to understand if I put myself in a shit position I will die.
2020-03-28 15:27
#127
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Denmark Xipingu 
For the 71243597015th time, get good bot.
2020-03-28 14:36
#135
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Australia HighRate 
talking about tier 1 pro games. where JW and zywoo are having a field day with it ,even in close battle. grow up kid.
2020-03-28 14:45
#234
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Denmark Xipingu 
Bruh you know what skill is, yes? Hand the awp to a noob and you will see said noob get destroyed. It's not overpowered. I see it constantly. Now, the 71243597016th time: Get. Good.
2020-03-28 18:23
#238
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Australia HighRate 
#135
2020-03-28 18:55
#239
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Denmark Xipingu 
#234
2020-03-28 18:56
ok
2020-03-28 14:37
Rofl,awp needs to buffed actually,because costs 4750$ and its almost impossible to peek player with SG
2020-03-28 14:40
#148
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Italy bennyhana 
price has nothing to do with it cuz u let someone else buy it and then pick it up off the ground for free
2020-03-28 15:32
#149
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Libya OG_TOP_1 
just hold shift for steady aim idiot
2020-03-28 15:33
#152
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Australia HighRate 
lol silvers starts talking :D
2020-03-28 15:41
#156
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Libya OG_TOP_1 
nt master guardian
2020-03-28 15:45
#157
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Australia HighRate 
watch some pro games to understand the game.
2020-03-28 15:46
Decrease damage to 40 per hit.
2020-03-28 15:37
0/8
2020-03-30 12:39
Best fix for awp: Start playing Rainbow Six Siege
2020-03-28 15:43
It doesn't need a nerf. If it were OPed people would use it a lot more. Still we usually have just one on a team. / Thread
2020-03-28 15:45
#162
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Australia HighRate 
Pro teams use it as soon as they can, at least on ct
2020-03-28 15:59
Are you a retard? How often do you see two awps? In less than 10% of rounds that CTs can afford actually them.
2020-03-28 16:01
#166
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Australia HighRate 
Think your brain stopped working
2020-03-28 16:05
You cannot count and my brain has stopped working. Good. Never seen so much self-condemnation.
2020-03-28 17:29
#159
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United States JustBitsy 
Best nerf to awp would be don't make a sound cue to throwing a flashbang, just make a sound cue to pulling the pin. Don't do anything to the weapon or holding the weapon.
2020-03-28 15:56
#169
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Europe marQQs 
- increase the time to scope in to make it more the weapon it's supposed to be. No more "ferrari peek one shot fall back" moves - increase the dmg to kill with legshots
2020-03-28 16:06
#183
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Australia HighRate 
increasing the time to scope is a great idea. I think this would make it less dynamic and balance it in a good way. Only slight changes are needed to make it maybe 10% worse
2020-03-28 16:35
#171
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Brazil zzzzzzznt 
Sg fucking the game and you worried about the green thing
2020-03-28 16:11
#184
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Australia HighRate 
just learn to use the SG. its not like T side is a big favor in every game now.
2020-03-28 16:36
funny how everyone is trying to nerf AWP but look at fucking krieg
2020-03-28 16:12
#185
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Australia HighRate 
just learn to use the SG. its not like T side is a big favor in every game now.
2020-03-28 16:36
HAAHAAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAA OK
2020-03-28 16:45
#201
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Australia HighRate 
:) no arguments?
2020-03-28 16:45
just learn to use the AWP. its not like a big favor in every game now.
2020-03-28 16:50
#213
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Australia HighRate 
I play it as ct all the time and its easy to get a lot of kills. CT side is favored on almost every map.
2020-03-28 16:52
bcs you can AWP not everyone can AWP Bro logically it is when u just defend site wtf u on about "cT sIdE iS FaVoRed oN alMoSt EveRy Map"
2020-03-28 16:53
#217
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Australia HighRate 
because ct is favored mainly because of the AWP. T got so much utility to take the sites, and even the SG that so many think is OP. How can T not win more rounds on every map? Because the AWP is too dynamic and OP. everyone need to respect the awp and even when they fire a shot they can fire again so fast.
2020-03-28 16:56
You're just stupid CTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FAVORED BECAUE THEY JUST HOLD IT NOT PUSH IT THERES DIFFERNCE BETWEEN HOLD AND PUSH THE DIFFERNCE IS U DONT RISK MUCH WHEN U HOLD T'S CAN FLASH AWP PUSH TOGETHER HE CANT KILL 2 OR MORE T's IN MATTER OF SECOND LIKE M4,KRIEG,AK CAN i bet you dont know much about this game
2020-03-28 17:01
#223
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Australia HighRate 
you dont seem to understand the game very well. When you take a site you are 5v2 or 5v3 and u got smokes and flashes. If it wasnt for the AWP CT would have way less success rate. Of course it easier to hold than attack, but with greater numbers in attack that makes the difference.
2020-03-28 17:05
YOURE SO STUPID IT HURTS
2020-03-28 17:01
#229
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Australia HighRate 
crazy ragekid.
2020-03-28 17:24
I BET YOURE THAT GUY THAT JUST RUNS OUT MID AND DIES AND TYPES IN CHAT HOW OP AWP IS THERES COUPLE OF WAYS TO BAIT AN AWP SHOT THERES COUPLE OF WAYS TO TEMPORARY DISARM AWPER U CAN PUT AWPER IN SO MUCH DISADVANTAGES
2020-03-28 17:04
#224
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Australia HighRate 
can you stop screaming kid? I think there is something wrong with you. You will probably stay silver for a long time.
2020-03-28 17:06
AWP DOESNT NEED NERF KRIEG DOES //closed
2020-03-28 17:30
#176
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Finland dNq_2020 
close range :D i think i remember you from the past buddy
2020-03-28 16:21
#186
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Australia HighRate 
Did I no scope you? :)
2020-03-28 16:36
#242
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Finland dNq_2020 
ye im pretty sure i did ;)
2020-03-28 19:40
nef krieg awp
2020-03-28 16:22
#182
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Spain SPQR_CAESAR 
use your smokes and flashes correctly and you won't cry about It so much
2020-03-28 16:32
#188
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Australia HighRate 
talking about tier 1 pro games. watch some pro games so you understand the game.
2020-03-28 16:37
#194
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Spain SPQR_CAESAR 
I watch a lot of tournaments and I still think It's perfectly balanced. What's the problem with it? It costs a lot of money, It doesn't kill you instantly if they hit the legs and They can get overwhelmed kinda easily, like I said, I see no problem with It.
2020-03-28 16:40
#199
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Australia HighRate 
pros dont hit the legs very often. A lot of good tips in the comments about how to nerf it. Decrease the accuracy of no scope, almost all pros hit every no scope shot. Its too accurate as it is. Too easy for awpers close range vs rifler. Should be advantage to be rifler in those situations. slightly slower scoping so its not so extremely fast to re peak. A lot of good things can be done, read the comments if you are interested. not talking about raising the price, actually would be ok with it costing a few hundred less if it was slightly nerfed.
2020-03-28 16:44
+1
2020-03-28 16:50
#187
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Netherlands poeya 
learn to play bot awp dont need nerf
2020-03-28 16:37
#189
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Australia HighRate 
talking about tier 1 pro games. watch some pro games so you understand the game.
2020-03-28 16:37
#190
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Netherlands poeya 
I understand the game in pro games its not op aswell
2020-03-28 16:37
#191
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Australia HighRate 
JW, zywoo and device are having field days with it. Its too dynamic
2020-03-28 16:38
#192
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Netherlands poeya 
yes so they are good awpers ? that doesnt mean the gun need a nerf
2020-03-28 16:39
#195
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Australia HighRate 
slight nerf is needed. more good awpers out there with too high impact.
2020-03-28 16:40
#202
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Netherlands poeya 
I really dont agree with you considering they already nerf movement not to long ago
2020-03-28 16:45
#204
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Australia HighRate 
its still insanely fast for an awp. should be more of a specialist weapon. increase scope time would be good.
2020-03-28 16:47
+1
2020-03-28 16:51
#193
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Finland N1ggers 
just ferraripeek awpers xaxa ez
2020-03-28 16:40
#196
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Romania best_mens 
Imo, only the noscope accuracy and the fire rate should be nerfed, this coming from a main rifler, i rarely even play awp and i think it's pretty okay, but the noscope accuracy and the fire rate should be nerfed imo, sometimes people can pick up too many kills too fast with this broken fire rate.
2020-03-28 16:40
#205
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Australia HighRate 
I agree. those two things are broken as it is. just slight nerf would make difference.
2020-03-28 16:48
awp is fine, the main problem is it makes some people think they are better than they are/ enables weaker players because its easier to do well with. aka sryson, nawwk, etc. i respect awpers like s1mple, zywoo, woxic
2020-03-28 16:43
#206
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Australia HighRate 
its hard to be as good with it as zywoo. But is still too easy to do very well with it.
2020-03-28 16:49
awp was so much nerfed in the history don't touch in this gun again.
2020-03-28 16:46
#218
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Australia HighRate 
its better now than in 1.6
2020-03-28 16:59
other game...other balance.
2020-03-28 17:27
#228
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Venezuela Jorge_ 
+1
2020-03-28 17:17
#208
Archi | 
United Kingdom KainZ 
Heres an idea yeah... USE YOUR FUCKING NADES
2020-03-28 16:49
#254
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Australia HighRate 
Here’s an idea... use your brain
2020-03-30 12:35
#260
Archi | 
United Kingdom KainZ 
Is that the best you have EXXX DEEEEE work on it chief
2020-03-30 17:03
#264
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Australia HighRate 
too ez to make a brexit like you cry. have to go easy on you.
2020-03-30 17:49
#266
Archi | 
United Kingdom KainZ 
kk LUL
2020-03-30 18:45
So SG and AK are op too 1 shot hs almost 100% noscope accuracy 30 round mag faster rpm faster mov speed :)
2020-03-28 17:09
ohk to body lol awm is for nubs
2020-03-28 18:27
Go delete this game. AWP is not OP and it already got enough nerfs. The AWP is already slow as f*ck with the recent changes
2020-03-28 18:59
#255
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Australia HighRate 
Lol awp slow as fuck? No, it’s dynamic as hell. You are just bad with it if you don’t think it’s op
2020-03-30 12:37
I´m not bad with it haha but it isn´t OP and you can counter an AWP if you can play with AK oder SG
2020-03-30 18:53
#269
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Australia HighRate 
Yes that is how the game works. Both teams buy weapons to counter each other.. lol.
2020-03-30 19:02
Yeah so stop complaining... lol. AWP is not OP, very bad at retakes and can get easily countered by flashbangs, molotovs ..... It is balanced right now
2020-03-30 19:15
#271
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Australia HighRate 
You only use one so you don’t need to retake with 5 awps. We have different opinions. It’s really good if you are high lvl with it. Specially op on pro lvl.
2020-03-30 19:19
Yeah of course it´s a really good weapon but it´s not OP. There is not even one pro complaining about the AWP
2020-03-30 19:20
#280
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Australia HighRate 
Lol that is exactly what they are doing. You heard of YouTube?
2020-03-30 19:28
AWP is perfect as it is... i was even against the movement reduction years ago, but i guess it worked out.
2020-03-29 15:04
#249
Finland em9 
How retarded are you?
2020-03-29 15:32
#256
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Australia HighRate 
You are just noob with awp if you don’t realize it’s op
2020-03-30 12:37
#261
Finland em9 
I often prefer m4/ak47 because the awp isnt always worth 4750dollars
2020-03-30 17:36
you miss with an awp you die its simple bait yourself or be a god with ak and 1tap him))
2020-03-30 12:37
#285
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Australia HighRate 
If you die every time you miss an awp shot you are very bad at positioning
2020-03-30 19:53
i dont use awp but if your opponent are fast enough he can xantarespeek you while you try to reposition
2020-03-30 21:05
shut up
2020-03-30 17:38
#274
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Korea PLANETSHAPER 
hey lets keep nerfing a post nerf weapon lol - silvers club
2020-03-30 19:21
awp doesnt need nerf its fine. nerf sg. thx
2020-03-30 19:21
#283
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Australia HighRate 
Just learn how to play the SG
2020-03-30 19:51
i know how to play sg, idc if they dont nerf it either. but everyone is god with krieg and it affect pro scene too much
2020-03-30 19:57
#290
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Australia HighRate 
In what way does it affect pro scene? Not like the maps are T-sided now so what’s the problem?
2020-03-30 20:03
everyone is amazing with krieg even AZR :PPP noob 100thieves can win vs liquid now
2020-03-30 20:20
#279
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Georgia Megobari 
cry is free, silver
2020-03-30 19:27
#282
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North America huffAndPuff 
It's fine, nerf SG
2020-03-30 19:50
#284
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Australia HighRate 
Why don’t you learn how to play the SG?
2020-03-30 19:52
#289
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North America huffAndPuff 
I do use it. Doesn't change the fact that I hate it
2020-03-30 20:03
#291
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Australia HighRate 
Just get good with it and you won’t hate it. T side need something to have a chance against op awp on high lvl.
2020-03-30 20:05
#294
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North America huffAndPuff 
I'm pretty good with it. I honestly find myself buying it over the AK every round now. I really don't think it's healthy for the balance of the game though. It's way too easy to hold angles with it. For example, retaking any site on inferno as CT with terrorists posted on angles with the SG is literally impossible. You can already counter AWPs with flashes, and CTs can't afford AWP every round with how bad the economy is for them imo. They also already nerfed the AWP recently with the crouch walk peeking. If a crouching AWP misses a shot, they are dead 90% now because their movement speed is so bad.
2020-03-30 20:24
#299
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Australia HighRate 
I get your point but It’s still easier to hold angles with AWP since it’s one shot kill almost entire body. It’s not like the Ts have started to win way too many rounds on pro lvl so it’s not too imba imo.
2020-03-30 20:48
you complain about AWP they should nerf the SG before they nerf anything else
2020-03-30 20:31
#298
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Finland pate1 
just flash him 4Head
2020-03-30 20:32
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