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Why Valve care more about DOTA2 than CSGO?
Sweden m4st4m4st3r4wp 
Why we dont get international like dota 2? Is it cuz csgo has random shit guns through the years like cz, tec9, aug and sg etc? So they dont want to give millions to ppl playing rng game. Or is it cuz valve know many to pros are cheating? Or why the fuck they dont care more about csgo?
2020-03-29 18:19
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Because Gaben is fat
2020-03-29 18:25
Fat? Thats how you say "he favours dota over cs" in israeli?
2020-03-29 22:31
No sorry,ment obese
2020-03-29 23:29
Lol okay))
2020-03-29 23:43
Hebrew*
2020-03-30 02:04
they dont want to promote a terror simulator game they are ashamed of the game they created
2020-03-29 18:25
Is that srsly a thing?
2020-03-29 18:26
yes it is the only thing hold them from promoting this game even better
2020-03-29 18:27
Nah, he's full of shit.
2020-03-29 20:44
that's why valorant > cs go
2020-03-29 18:42
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United Kingdom Theivze 
0/8
2020-03-29 19:07
Valorant is game for noobs
2020-03-29 20:06
#66
Toxic | 
Europe sam2gay 
low baits as usual
2020-03-29 20:46
valve is not the creator of CS :)
2020-03-29 19:30
who then??
2020-03-29 20:05
it was a HL mod i think that is what he implies
2020-03-29 20:06
he must be stupid then
2020-03-29 20:09
2 college kids : )
2020-03-29 20:26
Of course they do, everybody already knows it
2020-03-29 18:26
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Sweden NeverSexDog 
no shit. he is wondering why, not the fact that its occuring.
2020-03-29 18:44
Because Gaben doesn't like CS as much as Dota
2020-03-29 18:58
#20
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Sweden NeverSexDog 
#2
2020-03-29 18:59
0/8 opinion
2020-03-29 18:26
#7
bottle | 
Cambodia Aces_Y 
dota 2 generates higher revenue for valve
2020-03-29 18:29
how
2020-03-29 18:46
#29
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China SwooksarV2 
Probably the chinese scene? Idk, I don't follow dota.
2020-03-29 19:21
#25
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
proof?
2020-03-29 19:15
#28
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
source: trust me bro
2020-03-29 19:21
China
2020-03-29 19:30
Since TI2012, China had 23 players in teams. Says a lot. + most played game is a rival to dota, thus pumping money in dota gets alot of attention from competition + cheating scandals are nonexistant in lan mobas because of the way they develop the game + already big audience from dota 1 + starcraft(not implying they are the same) - cs probably had the biggest audience before all those mobas, since everyone from the 90s had played the game. The marketing time to make cs #1 esports is long gone(even before 2012 when csgo was released), thus leaving it as is may be the best choice, risk-wise.
2020-03-29 19:46
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
again thats evidence, not proof.
2020-03-29 20:26
The proof is TI's prize pool. Since Valve puts 1.6mil and 25% of battle pass, the revenue is pretty high, excluding the skins. However, that doesnt mean that they wouldn't make more $ if they put money in csgo... I only tried to reason their decision.
2020-03-29 21:05
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
the question was what brings higher revenue. if we're arguing the TI prize pool then if u used market buying in cs and took a cut from that for the prize pool it could be way over dota due to key buying etc. so that's kinda a non point. there reasoning is counter strike is hard to advertise i believe but again i have no proof. there is no obvious answer because its obviously a stupid decisions by valve
2020-03-29 22:59
I'm still under the impression that marketing CS has long gone... LOL and dota has the spotlight of esports, leaving cs a small portion due to the domination of its genre. If they made the decision to support cs back in 2003-2009, the outcome would be much bigger than lol and dota combined imo. However, the scene would be much different if they marketed csgo the same way they did with dota. Currently, cs is the second game in prizepools and this is due to other organizations putting money in it - if valve dominated cs, yes the prizepool would be much bigger but no attention would be given by other organizations(apparently dota gets some attention with the minors, but is it enough?)
2020-03-30 07:48
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Cambodia Aces_Y 
statista.com/statistics/808773/csgo-reve.. statista.com/statistics/807617/dota-2-re.. (since Dota 2 newest is 2017 we gonna use 2017 for csgo too) so it's $406 million for Dota 2 and $341 million for CSGO
2020-03-29 19:57
#61
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
But CSGO has completely eclipsed Dota 2 in player count in the last year so surely 2017 is a bit outdated considering how ever evolving the player counts are?
2020-03-29 20:25
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Europe LoookATme 
Cuz more money
2020-03-29 18:30
Dota2 has much more content+ gaben probably care much more about Asia region+ dota2 probably wanna be best moba game and they have strong opponent LOL. And in general dota2 is just better.
2020-03-29 18:30
you cant say dota is just better thats not how comparisons work
2020-03-29 18:46
League > Dota 2
2020-03-29 19:30
dota 2 is more marketable and can be played on toaster in a third world jungle which means it has a potential for a bigger player base
2020-03-29 18:33
It can? My computer handles csgo okay but i lag af on dota 2.
2020-03-29 18:33
I think that too they have bigger profits from dota
2020-03-29 19:15
Its funny cuz Valve is kinda trying to kill dota for the last year or so.
2020-03-29 18:33
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Junior | 
United States FiNa 
They didn't? They still gave significant updates in dota
2020-03-29 19:25
? Do u even play dota? They changed the game so muxh that the playerbase decreaset by almost 2 million and went back to 2014 in terms of active players. The worst part is they do nothing to improve beginners experience and huge part of the community is old people who cant spend so much time adapting to the fundumental changes they made. Also the summer mm update was a joke
2020-03-29 19:33
#73
Junior | 
United States FiNa 
Read my statement again jackass. The beginners experience has always been shite so i don't know what changes you expect to happen. January WAS the lowest point of Dota player count but it doesn't necessarily means valve tried to kill it. Fundamental changes? So you're saying outpost and neutral items affect the player base so much so that people just gave up and couldn't adapt to it. While ignoring the fact that the following patches are the results of community feedback regarding balance change to adapt to those same update. Summer mm update? Ranked roles? How's it a joke?
2020-03-29 22:35
CS dead game
2020-03-29 18:36
With 1 million players on right now at its peak? Tf is that weed men ?
2020-03-29 19:12
#13
2020-03-29 19:46
1 million player gane dead :)))
2020-03-29 22:28
Gabe is playing dota2 himself you can check his latest interview, not sure if thats anyway related to the development of the games, just making a point by connecting the dots, but imo you cant say they dont care, they are just okay with what they have at the moment since they as an organization are making lots of money from both
2020-03-29 18:41
Not to mention vr things hal life alyx .
2020-03-29 19:13
I think that's exactly the case. Gaben plays dota all the time.
2020-03-29 19:26
+1 true, valve pumping huge money into dota2 yet CS is more stable. They are just retarded and took the risk which cost and still costs them money and playerbase. Lack of iq imo.
2020-03-29 19:14
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Korea 2020_new_2010 
DOTA 2 is Valve's, while CSGO is by Hidden Path
2020-03-29 19:19
#30
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China SwooksarV2 
I think it's because of the more investments from the Asian scene, aka china. And that's where the big money is at. Or, Gaben just likes Dota 2 more personally
2020-03-29 19:22
I want some new weapons with new spray patterns. Like ak74, g36c, m16, sg550 commando, maybe some rocket launchers. But these should be active at scrimmage mod. This would be fun
2020-03-29 19:26
No please stop
2020-03-29 19:48
Because gaben Is silver 1 in cago
2020-03-29 19:28
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United Kingdom macrocephaly 
Because it probably has less Russians on it and everyone hates Russians
2020-03-29 19:28
because its a better game
2020-03-29 19:29
new operation: sg price increased to 16k awp removed major 50 mil dollars team patches mirage removed CIS gets their own server ggez
2020-03-29 19:29
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allu | 
India somecunt 
+1 except mirage😤 and don't care about CIS.
2020-03-29 19:37
Because CSGO is already the biggest game of its category, no need to promote it more for them. But in Dota2 Category there is big LoL, so if they wanna attract LoL players they have to make it looks good with lot of money and big events
2020-03-29 19:34
+1 smart
2020-03-29 19:49
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Libya OG_TOP_1 
because the international is the best esports event of the year of any online game. always a great time watching every single game there, no matter if you like dota or not.
2020-03-29 19:34
#45
pava | 
Europe Raco_br 
Because Dota 2 had lol as competitor and riot games always update their game and keep improving while csgo has no competitor and its the best by far in his category
2020-03-29 19:41
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2020-03-29 19:50
#52
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Korea Moms_touch 
This. Fun fact is csgo is gettimf bigger without any caring. But dota is dying with caring
2020-03-29 20:03
#78
pava | 
Europe Raco_br 
CSGO is getting bigger because its free now
2020-03-30 02:02
#85
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Brazil Mirekz 
how is CSGO gettin bigger? the game went free 2 play and the player base grew like 20% from when it was a paid game, if CSGO was gettin bigger then valve would never make the game go f2p, usually when companies make a paid game f2p its because the game is dying.
2020-03-30 02:12
#54
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Croatia gmchanger97 
dota players are fat, gaben is fat.. thats basically it
2020-03-29 20:05
thanks for sharing
2020-03-29 20:07
#59
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United States OKOptimistic 
The Dota ecosystem is broken compared to the CSGO ecosystem, so not really... Dota events barely gets any views, Dota just has 1 big event every year and that's it
2020-03-29 20:10
#84
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Brazil Mirekz 
"barely get any views" lmao it gets way more viewers than CSGO events, dota is like the number 1 e-sport in china and china has a pop of 1.3 bi
2020-03-30 02:08
#64
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North America 37h4n 
Dota 2 has big competition in league of legends csgo doesn't really
2020-03-29 20:43
#68
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United States oOMeowthOo 
We will get some sort in the future, it just takes time for the scene to slowly step up, they can't risk CS:GO going the Overwatch bubble route.
2020-03-29 21:08
Valve doesnt care about either. They dont care about esports. They care about VR. Gaben wanks his sosig to vr technology and animated ass.
2020-03-29 22:30
Icefrog is the smarter developer than the 2 csgo dudes. Since the 1 csgo maker is fired csgo changed a lot. I have no doubts that Icefrog works atm for csgo_dev team.
2020-03-29 22:33
#74
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
Valve fucked dota2 also. Valve invested in tournaments more thats it. Valve fucked CSGO and Dota2 in 2016 with new patches.
2020-03-29 22:37
#79
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Serbia nocturn1 
y
2020-03-30 02:02
#81
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Brazil Mirekz 
cus dota is clearly the superior game
2020-03-30 02:06
#82
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Slovakia tenzen 
Imagine the Valorant prize pool? :D RIP csgo :P for sure, because a riot is not full of dicks as valve :P
2020-03-30 02:06
#83
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Finland fromtheair 
CS GO stays alive without Valve caring about it, because cs is easily the best shooter there is. DOTA2 needs updates and care to not lose against LoL.
2020-03-30 02:07
#87
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
Maybe u r right. But u know their updates suck so much? In dota2 in this case.
2020-04-02 20:30
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