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FaZe not as bad as everyone thinks
Australia EvilAstral 
1. They never were good in online matches 2. They lost too close games (could beat mouz and G2 2-0 but unluko maluko), aslo could go to play-off at IEM Katowice. Im sure that on LAN FaZe can easily beat mouz and G2 2-0
2020-03-31 11:22
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Czech Republic mirtN 
They improved with coldzera but people expected more from them.
2020-03-31 11:23
Doesnt change the fact that theyll suck under niko's igleading. Also, rain is inconsistent af.
2020-03-31 11:23
rain is the worst online player (historical fact)
2020-03-31 11:24
#19
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Finland iBait 
Nah, Olofmeister is worse.
2020-03-31 11:41
nope
2020-03-31 13:02
#40
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Finland iBait 
Stats beg to differ
2020-03-31 13:14
How they play though agrees
2020-03-31 14:51
#61
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Finland iBait 
Rain plays a harder role
2020-03-31 14:59
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Poland Altimator 
XDD
2020-03-31 13:50
Rain is inconsisten, but when he is on his peek form he is easily top 5 player. Olof is probably not even top 100 at this point.
2020-03-31 11:48
olof plays shit roles always. He shouldnt be in top3 of the scoreboard. And rain should be a decent fragger but 6/10 times he sucks even more than olof. So whats the point of him? Take some more stable fragger than rain or take igl and build ur game around niko and cold. Alex would be amazing.
2020-03-31 12:59
+1 on ALEX With him FaZe could be a stable top 5 team
2020-03-31 13:03
#39
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Europe Bleedinggamer 
prob alex wont join it
2020-03-31 13:14
>1 unlucky online-tournament >6/10 times he sucks
2020-03-31 13:15
1 unlucky tournament? Unlucky? One tournament? U are either troll or simply dumb.
2020-03-31 13:30
2020-03-31 13:33
hltv.org/stats/players/events/8183/rain?.. U'r completely wrong about ONE UNLUCKY TOURNAMENT. I dont know how damaged ur brain is if u rly think that his inconsistensy is a fucking UNLUCK.
2020-03-31 13:38
Yeah they just have to be a bit lucky instead of unlucky every game and they can do big things, they are top 5 for sure. Along with g2, mouse, Astralis and Navi
2020-03-31 11:24
Lmao Fnatic >>>>>>> rage clan
2020-03-31 11:26
they are setting themselves up to be unlucky in every game
2020-03-31 11:39
Yeah and when they figure out how to not fuck that up they will be top 3 easily. They literally wins every single T side half. 9 - 6 or 10 - 5. Its crazy. But then they start to choke, and lose 14 - 16. When they figure out what they do wrong, they will be fire
2020-03-31 11:48
sorry for long rant post its not exactly rocket science. on mirage vs VP, i remember several rounds where olof goes running out for example to peek A ramp while there are a couple guys right behind him who are not peeking at the same time to get the trades. if olof just communicate "im going to run out in front of smoke pls flash me in and double peek" then they get a 2v1 on a player holding close to ramp. but that doesnt happen and he dies in 1v1 while peeking the corner alone. they also have a big lack of practiced smoke executes. basically their game plan is to feed a couple players in at random times and then hope Niko can get a 3 kill. arguably that is also up to Niko being IGL because historically when he is IGL in any team this is what happens, he calls strats where he can bait his teammates to boost his stats while they lose. game is also pretty T sided at this point, in MM if we can get 6 rounds on CT on mirage, cache, dust2, i believe we have already won the game because you will get 9 on T quite easily with this economy. you can literally buy every round, at least armor + scout or galil and some flashes and smokes. if you get the bomb down, you can buy ak or sg every round. if the CT side wins the pistol, you eco round 2 and you get SG's on round 3 when CTs have scouts, smgs and maybe 2-3 M4s. if you got the bomb down and lose pistol, you can force buy smgs scout galil on 5 players or 2 guys drop AK/SG for their teammate and play deagle. if you win the pistol, CT have to do one eco and have a weak buy on round 3 without helmets and full grenades, or they have to do a shitty force with $1900 on round 2 and can have a full buy in round 4. the ONLY way CT can actually get ahead in eco, before round 4, is by losing the pistol and then winning with the force buy on round 2. instead of worrying about CT side imo faze should just fix their teamwork on T side, have a solid setup. pretend they play darkest dungeon. there has to be a guy in front who is the best at tanking and evading damage. for faze this can be anyone except niko or cold. the second guy out has to be Niko, all he needs is a teammate in front of him to bait and he can tap for headshots on enemies who are engaging that other player. Cold has to be in the back every round, getting escorted into position where he can post up and press mouse 1 when enemies shift walk into his crosshair just like on SK. when they get this down, they can start to fix their smoke executes and anti ecos. focus on trading out kills together, not leaving any holes to exploit. also they need to stop fucking rushing B or playing slow mid on anti eco vs pistols on mirage, like they are gold nova mm players, its so fucking annoying to watch. just throw smokes A, molotov the hiding spots, flash out, and hold down W with 5 players until you have site control. even if enemies stack A every eco its still safer than taking risk of going mid or B and taking close range isolated 1v1 fights. this was common knowledge in 2016. ppl just got lazy.
2020-03-31 12:02
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Australia StarzOnFire 
too big for me to read but I already understand looking at the paragraphs xd
2020-03-31 14:00
np i didnt realize i wrote such a long ass post before clicking
2020-03-31 14:00
watching Faze get rekt really gets me emotionally, i love it and hate it at the same time
2020-03-31 14:08
#58
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Liechtenstein Over088 
You made some good points mate,YnK should read this
2020-03-31 14:22
i think he knows all this
2020-03-31 14:23
Lmao another useless thread from delusional fangirl
2020-03-31 11:26
Reported for delusioan fangirl of Aleksiweeb
2020-03-31 11:27
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India AI_monk 
alexiweeb....lol
2020-03-31 11:33
aleksib fangays are the worst
2020-03-31 13:45
no closed/
2020-03-31 11:27
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Turkey ok4N__ 
they have 5 gods. they didnt achive anything except blast. I think they are bad bcs they have huge potential.
2020-03-31 11:26
This is pretty much it, but it just proves that super star international teams never work or star studded line ups don't. The most dominate teams in history have been teams of the same country, you lose a special something once you go international. The only bonus you have going all star international line ups your skill level can hold you up in the top 10 with ease.
2020-03-31 11:47
FaZe at the end 2017 was one of the most dominant teams ever (ESL ONE NY) But then they choked the major and katowice so olof left for personal reasons ( was playing FN) FaZe did good with stand ins, but when olof came back it just didnt click
2020-03-31 13:48
+9999 if they won the major and katowice(they needed 1 more for grand slam since they had 3/4 already) then faze wouldve had an era. The major and katowice finals were the biggest chokes that made their form dip.
2020-03-31 13:51
They were so close ((
2020-03-31 14:11
Yes they were very good during the honey moon period, when I say dominant I mean over a period of time which no international team has achieved in all versions of CS. I do not deny their potential.
2020-03-31 13:56
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Czech Republic Rewask 
FaZe never was that bad, but with the roster they had and now have you expect more than just "not bad"
2020-03-31 11:29
#12
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Norway Nigotess 
>FaZe. >was never good in online matches.
2020-03-31 11:30
2020-03-31 11:32
#16
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Norway Nigotess 
hltv.org/stats/teams/matches/6667/FaZe?s.. Bunch of onliners as I remember them.
2020-03-31 11:38
against ARCY ENCE Tylul... are you kidding?
2020-03-31 11:51
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Norway Nigotess 
Their lvl tho, be ready for it, there will be a lot of online matches.
2020-03-31 11:53
#13
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Brazil eumesmo 
They good, but they may need more changes.
2020-03-31 11:30
#17
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Russia OKboi 
ok
2020-03-31 11:38
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Faroe Islands clackdamighty 
I saw the matches against G2 and mouz, they played pretty good actually just need to fix some mistakes and they can close these games, but if doesnt work in the future they need to get rid of rain & olof
2020-03-31 11:41
rain is bad because of YNk & NiKo strats. it's tough to be entry in FaZe
2020-03-31 11:53
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India Smauxx 
If rain pops off like 2017 early 2018. Then Faze will be back at top easily. He was ranked top 4 during that time.
2020-03-31 11:56
+1 but the last sentence you wrote I disagree. It will be close matches
2020-03-31 11:49
I was thinking about CeRq replacing either olof or rain and returning broky back to rifle. I know the flag checks out but CeRq is really good awper which FaZe obviously miss right now, EG are pulling him down and broky is better with the rifle than the awp.
2020-03-31 11:56
#30
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India Smauxx 
Hmm maybe they can +ALEX who left Vitality which will get Niko back on his main role which is Go kill ez katka.
2020-03-31 11:57
#32
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Russia xtkjdtr001 
brilliant but who the fuck asked?
2020-03-31 12:06
don't be lazy once and look at threads on HLTV
2020-03-31 12:13
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Turkmenistan Homo_Deus 
True, Faze had close matches with G2 & mouz. Even with Na'Vi twice they had close head to head matches in Catowice. Nowadays we have 5 very close teams; Na'Vi, Astralis, Mouz, G2, Faze.
2020-03-31 12:30
#36
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
Fnatic>faze
2020-03-31 13:02
#45
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Libya s1v9mple 
More like FaZe not nearly as good as everyone thinks. Choko is a shit IGL.
2020-03-31 13:42
+1 -olof can fix them
2020-03-31 13:45
0/8 nt
2020-03-31 13:56
Inconsistency is somehow inherited part of the game of FaZe. They were (and probably will) never the best team starts-wise, but they have great individualities and it is a joy to watch some of those plays. However, they will always play individually, hunt those frags even if it is not needed etc. They can easily win eco vs full buy and then lose 4vs1, because they die one by one hunting. In this team, you will always have someone stepping up and someone not having the game, because it is impossible to have 4-5 players with 20+ frags each map. But there is probably no other team, where in almost every match someone else is on the top of the scoreboard.
2020-03-31 14:14
Evil Geniuses
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Gen.G
2.18
Endpoint
1.33
HONORIS
3.22
NiP
1.65
ENCE
2.28
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