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ZyWho = 0 Major, 0 grand slam Dev1ce 4 majors = everything
2020-03-31 12:56
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dev1ce wishes to be as good as zywoo. dev1ce isnt even good at cs.
2020-03-31 12:58
#24
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United Arab Emirates knowledgeAAA 
wtf? Device is good in cs for so long. What are you talking about?. Consistency is the key to win and he is the most consistent player in history of counterstrike
2020-03-31 13:43
consistently bad at cs. getting his ass carried by glaive, magisk and zonic.
2020-03-31 13:50
Reported, Swedish 0 iq
2020-03-31 14:28
True af
2020-03-31 14:29
+1
2020-03-31 17:36
he was in hltv top 20 even before glaive and magisk joined ,nt
2020-04-01 01:18
#61
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Denmark Kon10R 
I guess most of us are striving for being or becoming the best we can be. Not "as good as". Most MVP's won at big events should give a clue about his career though.
2020-03-31 18:59
> everything > 0 best player in year
2020-03-31 12:59
top 5 player for 5 years now? best player in the year who gives a fuck? he wins all the tournements a gets paid. thats what matters.
2020-03-31 14:30
Lmao another device pp sucker crying because dev3ce won't ever reach the peek of Zyw0o hahaha
2020-03-31 12:59
peak*
2020-03-31 13:10
3covic3 peak = any cs player worst year 3CoViCe iS cOnSiStEnT tHo
2020-03-31 14:30
Well he is consistent
2020-03-31 16:11
Yeah but 3covic3 peak = any cs t1 player worst year :)
2020-03-31 17:20
Zywoo already bad after 1 year
2020-03-31 13:42
NT aleksib Lmao
2020-03-31 14:28
AleskiB fanboy KEKW
2020-03-31 17:35
0/8
2020-03-31 13:00
#5
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
Cold=s1mple>device>zywoo
2020-03-31 13:00
#6
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France MrWowo 
cold=s1mple xd
2020-03-31 13:02
#7
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
2 major mvp, 2 #1 high rating 8 overall mvps
2020-03-31 13:02
#16
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
and ? Device 4 majors, 15 mvps etc
2020-03-31 13:17
#19
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
But cold is better individually
2020-03-31 13:23
#8
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Norway Real_Brunstad 
rain>cold=s1mple>device>zywoo
2020-03-31 13:03
#10
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
0 majors, 2mvps, 1.05 rating not even close to s1mple and cold
2020-03-31 13:05
#11
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Norway Real_Brunstad 
rain > cold Cold is not even close
2020-03-31 13:08
#20
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
And what do you have to back it up?
2020-03-31 13:24
#26
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Norway Real_Brunstad 
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/8183/rain.. Higher rating, Higher impact, higher opening kills per round All around a better player
2020-03-31 13:46
#29
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
"based on 17 maps"
2020-03-31 13:57
#66
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Norway Real_Brunstad 
Still better than cold...
2020-04-01 01:17
lol. s1mple>zywoo>device>>>>>>coldzera
2020-03-31 14:31
#38
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
Nt cold is def better than zywoo and device. Device cant play other guns than awp and its his second year and he's already not playing that well
2020-03-31 14:33
wtf do you mean? device's rifles are probably even better than his AWP. he definitely has a higher ability with them. and top 3 isnt that good? what are you smoking? top 2 player of all time for sure, right after s1mple.
2020-03-31 14:34
#63
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
Nt device. Cold 2 #1 device 0#1
2020-03-31 19:08
Baitzera not even top 20
2020-03-31 17:38
#9
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Romania Summerparty23 
facts
2020-03-31 13:04
+1
2020-03-31 13:10
#13
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Yugoslavia RIP_MY_NIP 
you can be the best player in the world and still lose cause your team doesn't play as a great team. astralis has a very high standard of coordination and teamwork, something which other teams simply don't have. device fits perfectly into the astralis machine, as he is much more of a support player than a star player, as everyone on astralis has the goal of supporting each other, rather than just device running around and killing people. the reason for why device is most commonly the highest rated player is because he naturally more skilled than his teammates, but because he doesn't abuse this skill as his main advantage over his enemies and instead uses it to support his team, he becomes much more of well-rounded player that allows him to win more and actually boosts his lesser skilled teammates as well. zywoo as a player is more skilled, but because his team focuses around him as the star player they lose their own ability to play well and it actually becomes a detriment to the team when zywoo has to put up insane numbers because three other members are just decoys which are setting him up. your point makes sense that device is superior to zywoo when you look at achievements, but you also have to look at the context of their teams and their ability to play with their teammates. could device potentially be even better if he took up a role like s1mple did in 2018-navi or zywoo does now in vitality right now? idk. what is clear is that they have two individual playstyles which somewhat adhere to their teams structure, but because astralis and device are more well-rounded it suits them a lot more. i believe that comparing s1mple and zywoo is a much fairer comparison because of the roles which they fill out in their teams, though its debatable when this should be, because right now navi looks like anyone could pop-off, rather than just s1mple hard carrying.
2020-03-31 13:10
i agree but device is BETTER ZywOo is more MECHANICALLY SKILLED oh and in Na Vi the only player who won't pop off is perfecto
2020-03-31 13:15
#17
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Yugoslavia RIP_MY_NIP 
i should've clarified this bit, so my bad. i believe that device in comparison to other star players plays a much more supportive role for his team, especially in comparison to zywoo. device sets his teammates up for success as much they set him up, but because of his higher skill he is able to convert these situations quite well, hence he is in theory the star player of the team. this is what i meant when i said: the reason for why device is most commonly the highest rated player is because he naturally more skilled than his teammates, but because he doesn't abuse this skill as his main advantage over his enemies and instead uses it to support his team he becomes much more of well-rounded player that allows him to win more and actually boosts his lesser skilled teammates as well. you are quite right; device is the star player and xyp9x is the support, but device plays a much smaller role as a star player in comparison to others in the scene, which is why i think this sets him apart from someone like zywoo.
2020-03-31 13:18
I agree, he isn't a flashy star player.
2020-03-31 13:21
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Yugoslavia RIP_MY_NIP 
bro, why did you edit your original point? just leave it up because i think that it made sense as you pointed out a mistake in my writing. now my entire second part makes little sense in terms of what it is replying to.
2020-03-31 13:25
#21
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Other i_eat_bbq 
s1mple > dev2ce > zywh0
2020-03-31 13:24
#32
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Russia SEN3X 
s1mple=dev1ce>zywho
2020-03-31 14:29
dev1ce goat trophies and legacy > individual performance anyway
2020-03-31 13:44
>legacy >no top1 Lmao
2020-03-31 14:32
who cars if you got #1 or #2 when you won 4 majors :coolsunglasses:
2020-03-31 14:33
who cars if you got carried to 3 majors by 4 top20 teammates when you never got #1 3covic3 peak = any cs go t1 player worst year That’s his fucking legacy. That’s your fucking goat with non-existent and boring personality and huge holes in his resume. He might as well win 20 majors in a row. Still won’t make him a GOAT. But you are allowed to live in denial :)
2020-03-31 14:36
only the first sentence is right s1mple can carry as much as he can still won't be goat until he actually wins majors and lots of t1 tournaments
2020-03-31 14:40
Every sentence is right bc it is backeup by stats and facts. 3covic3 can get carried to 99392910399292 consecutive major wins and 1991382892848291992 t1 trophies by his teammates. But he won’t be the GOAT until he actually gets a top1 and prove himself to be a GOAT. Not a winner of fluke major tournaments where he had to beat fucking AVANGAR and FLUKENCE :)
2020-03-31 14:43
what do you actually mean by carried in the 4 majors eleague 2017 - robbed by the snake had 0.08 rating more london 2018 - MVP most rating kato 2019 - again MVP most rating berlin 2019 - yet again MVP most rating sure numbers aren't everything and he wasn't Astralis's best player in these tournaments but he surely wasn't carried also wdym that majors were fluke? they played vs shit teams because they knocked out the other good team contenders for the title
2020-03-31 14:48
Simple is by far the best player individually but you cant say device got carried to majors lmao. He was top 5 even before any of his teammates were in top 20. But knowing you and your obsession towards device there is no point to even talk. So nt znajder, still mad cuz sluthult chose device instead of u?
2020-03-31 14:45
I are agree with you nuhoo
2020-03-31 14:59
Thats a first. +100 for u my little friend
2020-03-31 17:26
NT flag flagging because you know your Country doesn’t have a scene
2020-03-31 14:35
Cool. Zero arguments. Get back to jerking off to 3covic3 in your basement of an irrelevant country. North Korea on global scene is more relevant than your country.
2020-03-31 14:38
his major wins and mvps will be remembered more than gtr's, olof's etc. #1s
2020-03-31 14:36
GTR and olof will be remembered more since they played in a more competitive era and their play style wasn’t a boring angle holding for a whole round :)
2020-03-31 14:37
more competitive :D omegalul.
2020-03-31 17:20
Yeah Ik NaVi with Zeus and Edward and TL with TACO as well as facing AVANGAR and ENCE in Major Grand-Finals of a Major has been much more competitive. 3covic3 peak = any t1 cs player worst year :)
2020-03-31 18:08
kek. yeah, ence that beat #3 and #2 maybe? Even though Zeus is a much better IGL than boomich and Edward is no worse than Perfecto, the other players just didn't peak at the same time. And it was just the dominance of Astralis that made the opponents look weak, not their actual weakness. Like cmon, Liquid of 2018 would probably beat fnatic of 2015 in most series. And the last part is just ridiculous and shows how dumb you are. So stats that would beat the majority of #1 stats, insanely good highlight plays, smart AWPing, very very good rifling... Yeah, those are just ordinary things you get on your plate from Xyp9x in his worst year...
2020-03-31 19:26
Ok you are good Dane. I’m not gonna argue with you bc we will stand by our opinions and neither you nor me gonna change our opinions about competitiveness of different eras. Stay safe and have a good day.
2020-03-31 23:13
#28
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Sweden Shirone 
lol
2020-03-31 13:50
#59
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Brazil Elakk 
Remove device from astralis and you still have a solid tier 1 team Remove zywoo from vitality and you have a dead team
2020-03-31 18:50
-1 gets carried by drupeeh & clutch master.
2020-03-31 18:54
Definitely not
2020-03-31 19:00
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