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Romania decis1ve 
So they will probably not qualify to the epl finals. Sad for them that g2 and mouz can beat them but they lose against og. The only chance they qualify is if g2 or mouz choke against the remaining teams, is that right?
2020-03-31 16:22
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2020-03-31 16:22
#33
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Argentina dou1337 
+1
2020-03-31 16:46
#2
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
they lost to g2 cuz the lack a good awper,g2 cant do shit versus teams with awpers that can match kennyS as mantuu for example or Na;Vi.
2020-03-31 16:24
#5
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
mantuu being a "good awper" is laughable
2020-03-31 16:29
#7
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
U don't know shit if u think hes not good awper
2020-03-31 16:30
#8
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
KEKW keep dreaming Yugo
2020-03-31 16:31
#9
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
KEKW? i guess you are 12 yo too.
2020-03-31 16:31
#10
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
insulting me bc you have no facts to back up your argument. this is sad
2020-03-31 16:31
#12
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
1,2+ rating against kennyS,woxic and cerq.I agree hes not good,hes very good awper.
2020-03-31 16:33
#34
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
i wont waste my time arguing with retards. let me know when mantuu ever gets into the top 20 bub:)
2020-03-31 16:47
#53
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
The fact that you are American is enough for me.U guys arent made for anything
2020-03-31 19:02
#63
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
we're made for being 1st world while Yugoslavia is made for being 3rd world so
2020-03-31 19:54
#27
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Serbia TheSerb 
Where are your facts to show that he isnt? Og is legit around the top10 mark
2020-03-31 16:41
#35
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
#34
2020-03-31 16:47
#52
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Serbia TheSerb 
M8 hes like 20 y.o and its his 1st year on the pro scene if og makes it to the top 10 this yr he might crack into the top 20 he has like 1.20 rating
2020-03-31 18:10
He has none. Judging by his use of kekw he is most likely a young teenager so I wouldn't expect much. Mantuu is definitely a good player and has the potential to be a really good player.
2020-03-31 17:26
#16
flusha | 
Cambodia PigFace 
hes literally been OGs best player so far.
2020-03-31 16:35
Not good because he is new or what? Just look at the facts, he is good awper.
2020-03-31 16:39
#13
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Poland kvvach 
Rain lost them nuke
2020-03-31 16:33
#15
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
Rain is super inconsistent player.But they need a better awper for sure.
2020-03-31 16:34
#19
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Poland kvvach 
sure. they need 2 roster changes
2020-03-31 16:36
The 14:10 round where Rain was top hut and he pulled his knife was so frustrating.
2020-03-31 23:28
It was just rain being bad on ct side nuke on A ..being a free kill everyround for no reason
2020-03-31 19:06
They need to OG lose to VP,and mouz need to lose to VP and TYLOO,but it's almost impossible as VP and tylul are worst teams this tournament
2020-03-31 16:28
#42
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Indonesia iqbaltaufiq17 
well, it is impossible and it should be impossible. But, after seeing navi lost to north, fnatic lost to big, and nip lost to ence, I think there's a slight possibility
2020-03-31 17:06
I saw both VP and Tyloo games,Tyloo gamesense is pure trash,only team they can beat here is VP.Then VP,adren decisions as IGL is terrible,every top10 team will read them easily.Also North and BIG play half of their CS careers in online,so it's their playground,NaVi and fnatic just wasn't ready for this.
2020-03-31 17:11
They dont have igl so its hard to perfom.Look at OG and compare them to faze individually: As players Faze are a lot better but they are not organised as OG.They should pick up Aleksib instead of firepower...
2020-03-31 16:28
#6
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
it's already been said that they didnt want aleksib. they need to get alex
2020-03-31 16:30
Niko won't accept that either.... +idk if Alex want to
2020-03-31 16:34
#20
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Romania decis1ve 
man its not niko who won't accept man, u got the wrong impression. They have good chemistry and are good friends and it would be a blow to kick someone for bad results. They look better then ever and its not even a year since this roster was put togheter
2020-03-31 16:38
They look good once every 3 months for a few days...
2020-03-31 16:44
#46
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Romania decis1ve 
nah i am talking rn. They look good since 2020 started and they changed their roles
2020-03-31 17:22
+1 They won't get past groups at esl ....
2020-03-31 18:03
When aleksib was available they didn't add him because his way of playing cs was different. As long as NiKo is at the helm, i don't see faze winning anything significant.
2020-03-31 19:43
They've chosen this path, they have no interest getting new IGL.
2020-03-31 16:40
mouz and g2 underperformed A LOT against OG, if they played like that against faze, they would've been run-over.
2020-03-31 16:32
#17
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Romania decis1ve 
thats what i m thinking and its kinda sad that faze isnt going to the epl finals. They deserved it
2020-03-31 16:35
i posted this in reply to someone yesterday.. I've been tempted a few times to make a thread on the faze issues but I'm willing to respect the information given from people and don't want to name them. in small summary : many top players have said no to faze recently due to issues with niko who wants full control of the team and wants them to play around him, is this right? hes a top player so who knows! 2 players in the top10 both turned faze down to replace karri/guard and have won trophies since. others see him as someone with a god complex and they chose to return to former teams. there will 100% be changes to faze once tournaments are stable again, nothing will happen whilst its online only.
2020-03-31 16:35
source? i only know flusha turned them down because he doesn't like their planning but he is not a top 10 player
2020-03-31 16:41
i wont be naming the players that turned them down. some very top players and even previous ex team mates of olof have said no to faze recently. it's well known in the scene why faze are struggling and pros wont risk it. karrigan was forced out not because of his fragging ability but because niko wanted to run the team his way, hence why his friend cold has joined when everybody knows its a bad pick up they needed a different type of player. the truth will come out soon my friend and some big faze shocks will happen
2020-03-31 20:11
To be quite frankly honest with you, I think you're being dishonest. The reason why Karrigan left was completely valid, his departure was not heavily dependent on his fragging ability and if you follow the timeline of 2018 FaZe downhill struggle, you might see why. I am unable to comprehend why you're unable to provide us with names. We know that Flusha refused, Pronax was rejected etc. I mean your identity is completely obscure behind your alias, I can't see a reason as to why you're unable to provide a source. Also , the only big shock I can see happening at FaZe is YnK getting kicked. NiKo is basically a FaZe franchise player now and won't bail out of the project anytime soon. Cold is not leaving this early. Olof, if he were to leave, would have no better place to go to. Rain, like NiKo is a "FaZe franchise" player and most likely doesn't have anywhere better to go. And Broky isn't leaving anytime soon.
2020-03-31 20:26
why should i say 'this player turned down faze because he isnt a fan of how niko runs the team' its unfair and disloyal to the players who told me this. you seem to think no changes will happen? this is a team ranked 10th currently, on huge wages. time will tell bro, but we will revisit this :) as for olof having nowhere better to go pls be serious haha
2020-03-31 23:10
Are you aware of how scuffed the HLTV rankings are due to the COVID-19 and some other factors? FaZe realistically are 6th in the world, and, yes, there are facts to back that up. In time they will be top 3, but they just need more time to fix their mistakes. Also where else would Olof go? Na'Vi? , no. Astralis, g2, fnatic, mouz, liquid, eg, 100t, vitality, nip? no... I feel like you're just baiting.
2020-03-31 23:25
time will tell bro. 6th for a superteam on incredible wages. ouch seems like your a superfan who doesnt see whats going to happen... oh you have love niko in your name. silly me! i have no chance trying to explain this to you.
2020-03-31 23:47
You're the one unable to understand how the HLTV ranking functions and Valve rules. Also you are aware that FaZe gets paid the same amount as EG, LIQUID AND 100T who they are all better than. Seems like you're new to the CSGO scene and all I can say is welcome.
2020-04-01 00:04
Sounds exaggerated.There's a bit of truth in it though.
2020-03-31 19:45
#66
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Germany ohmeingutness 
hahahahahahahahahahahaha god complex lmfao
2020-03-31 20:42
#22
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Greece Graecos 
If G2 wins one of the two matches left, FaZe can't be first. If OG wins another game, FaZe can't be first as well. If Mousesport wins 2 games, FaZe can't be first. Anyhow, if FaZe loses his last matches, they have no chance of being first.
2020-03-31 16:39
Its not about being first, the chances of that happening are close to 0%. Its about if they manage to be top 3 even. If they lose to OG they're out.
2020-03-31 16:45
#59
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Romania decis1ve 
if they win against og they still have a chance to not qualify.
2020-03-31 19:46
Indeed, but if they lose they are guaranteed out.
2020-03-31 20:54
#23
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Poland xBG1 
lul, g2 vp mouse/faze will qualify
2020-03-31 16:39
#24
NiKo | 
Australia nikofan 
There's still chance for faze to make it to the finals .. mouse sports lose to G2 or G2 lose to mousesports and faze MUST WIN OG 2-1 or 2-0 in order to make it to the next stage. That's because Faze actually have really close games against G2 and mousesports and have actually taken a map off them too so Faze must win OG ABSOLUTELY which is not a good spot to be in because there's so much on the line on a match it will definitely give them huge chunks of pressure
2020-03-31 16:40
#28
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Czech Republic Scalpelexis 
"mouse sports lose to G2 or G2 lose to mousesports" Ehm, so, what kind of conditions this line sets up..? How is one of these NOT happening?
2020-03-31 16:43
#31
NiKo | 
Australia nikofan 
yeah it will happen ... That was unnecessary tbh hahah mb Faze MUST win G2 :d
2020-03-31 16:45
#32
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Czech Republic Scalpelexis 
Faze already lost to G2
2020-03-31 16:45
he ment OG
2020-03-31 16:50
#39
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Czech Republic Scalpelexis 
I guess :-D He is hella of a confused guy :-D I believe too, that if Faze beats OG 2:0, they are 100% TOP 3 cause they took map off G2 and Mouz. If 2:1, it becomes debatable. Though that would probably single out G2, since they lost 0:2 to OG.
2020-03-31 16:51
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if 2 teams are even on points, the tiebreaker is head-to-head, not round differential. So Faze need OG to lose to VP, and then Faze need to beat OG so they both sit at 3-2 -> where Faze has the head-to-head victory, hence they go through in 3rd place. Or they need one of Mouz or G2 to lose out which is highly unlikely.
2020-03-31 23:34
FaZe has almost zero chances.Mouz,G2 and OG need to lose to VP to remain FaZe chances on go through,but VP pure shit,who will be on last place with tyloo,so this is impossible
2020-03-31 16:53
There is no separate finals event, stage 2 will have a 6-team round robin and then there's ONE semifinal and grand final after stage 2
2020-03-31 16:48
#38
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United States DEB 
if they beat og they are through to second satge decider games
2020-03-31 16:50
No,they not,even if they would beat OG,they need mouz,OG and G2 lose to VP and tyloo(only mouz here) which is almost impossible,because VP and tyloo are probably worst teams at that tournament
2020-03-31 16:59
#45
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Lithuania KingOfPing 
this is small chances but its online games and anything can happen, i think biggest hope is today mouse vs vp game if vp win faze still should have pretty good chances.
2020-03-31 17:20
#44
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Lithuania KingOfPing 
Biggest faze chances if mouse lose to G2 and one of VP or tyloo games and then faze are in 3rd (ofc if they win against OG).
2020-03-31 17:18
Faze always start fucking around losing stupid situations, 1-2 is their favourite score. They could compete within top 3, but they always somehow lose matches
2020-03-31 17:24
Their T side is just not good enough which is due the fact that they don't have a Good IGL
2020-03-31 19:05
Most likely
2020-03-31 17:26
I think you are wrong. I am pretty sure that if OG finish 1st in group and FaZe beat them ( so OG is 4-1 1st place and FaZe is 3-2 2nd place) they will qualify even if they lost to G2 and mousesports and even if G2 and mouse have 3 wins each (if G2 has 4 wins and mouse has 3 I think FaZe finishes 4th). correct me if I am wrong but by what the analysts have said on the stream after OG beat G2 it sounded like FaZe is in a nice position to qualify, Anyway we don't have to make so many calculations because mouse will finish 1-4 so it doesn't matter in the end))
2020-03-31 17:31
Yes Faze will not qualify most probably coz I don't see them beating OG and Mouz and G2 choking that hard
2020-03-31 19:04
#60
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Turkey surudboi 
FaZe Clan is same with PSG Football club because they have world's best players in their roster and still they can not win anything
2020-03-31 19:47
#61
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Sweden Lagge15 
Yeah. If OG lose their remaining games they have a huge shot, but that isn't likely
2020-03-31 19:48
#62
woxic | 
Turkey ClaSX 
Faze trash
2020-03-31 19:50
Since og and g2 have to play vp and mouz tyloo its over for faze
2020-03-31 21:16
#71
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Brazil PaPum 
FALLEN IN FAZE
2020-03-31 23:27
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