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TACO: don't defend him
coldzera | 
Brazil fer_is_overrated 
Please, stop defend him, he's the worst pro player in the whole scene. Every team has supports, every team has players that are put in the worst positions... Only TACO is THAT bad. He's rating is low, he isn't good at clucthing or entering It's 2020, roles are no longer excuses for bad players, everyone in the team has to frag if they wanna win. kick taco ffs
2020-03-31 23:13
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hes a decent player and if you put him in a good system he can be one of the best supports problem is mibr isn't tactically good anymore, so its more fallen's fault
2020-03-31 23:15
TACO was never good, not even in SK/Luminosity/Liquid
2020-03-31 23:16
individually no, but he was a good team player
2020-03-31 23:16
But that's my point, the scene today has no room for 'good team players'... you have to be a good team player and also a decent fragger
2020-03-31 23:17
unfortunately usually ppl who are better at fragging are worse at being team player and the other way around. they are all humans. if they were all perfect then the game wouldnt be interesting. and btw taco isnt that bad at aim, when he played in liquid he actually showed some games where he can shoot enemies, he just usually gets job of being decoy and awp dropper on T side and on CT he plays B on most maps. on B on dust2 or mirage you either get 3-4 kills and look amazing or you get 0 and die. it is the same for everyone who plays these positions, for example styko in mouse got a lot of shit for it but what do you expect him to do? get 3k every time he is pushed in 1v5 by pistols? often it is harder to hit players rushing with pistols than when they have guns and stop to shoot back.
2020-04-01 16:50
#63
shroud | 
Russia FriZZeh 
smart
2020-04-01 17:10
#64
JaCkz | 
Turkey SkySea 
Styko was decent in mouz
2020-04-01 17:20
yeah i dont think they should have removed him but the current team is also doing pretty good now, and at least styko is on another team now and playing, so its relatively good outcome for all.
2020-04-01 17:31
#78
JaCkz | 
Turkey SkySea 
Just -maikelele +smooya
2020-04-01 17:41
idk i think he should start looking for a better team but at least he is playing styko i mean
2020-04-01 17:43
#92
JaCkz | 
Turkey SkySea 
Any suggestion ?
2020-04-01 17:54
godsent have been climbing up in rank, i think they can keep that up for a bit and then maybe they can either look at replacing krystal and maikelele or the other 3 players can get picked up by good teams for a decent payout and krystal and maikel can find a couple more young guys to teach them a bit about the game, they can take kind of a hunden role in the scene if they want
2020-04-01 18:16
#105
JaCkz | 
Turkey SkySea 
Maybe - krystal + HUNDEN - maikrlele + smooya
2020-04-01 18:25
#91
ropz | 
Belgium mainak90 
Styko is mechanically a way better fragger than Taco, i beleive Chrisj does the same level of sacrifice for the team, yet manages to clutch crucial rounds, entry frag, secondary awp and also igling on a partial level. I think even rpk does kind of support role for Vitality, he is mechanically quite underrated and one of the least vocal members of the team. A support player is supposed to be useful, not a liability to the team. Even if he outnumbered 1v2 on a clutch situation but have a favourable angle he should deliver, it looks like he still doesn't. The guy just has a good rapport with the mibr team and management, i dont see any t1 org apart from mibr considering him.
2020-04-01 17:50
yeah ppl say rpk is bad because he does sometimes miss some easy shots but overall he has really solid performance with rifles and the amount of work he does for a team that is not immediately visible is really big. he throws good grenades. in engagements with multiple players of both teams he creates massive amounts of space for his teammates to play with. that makes it much easier for the other guys to get kills. so even if he gets a bad KD in a game i usually feel like he was very important to winning it. and when he does get kills on top of doing all that work its even better. >i dont see any t1 org apart from mibr considering him. well idk if you can call liquid a tier 1 org, they are/were top tier in NA at least and they picked taco up.
2020-04-01 18:07
#111
ropz | 
Belgium mainak90 
And they left him after to switch with stewie, and started looking better from there placing top 2 against astralis shortly after. No offense both taco and stewie whine a lot in twitter, but atleast stewie can back it up with team victories, taco is kind of overrated even after all that flame against him. Like even support players have breakout plays once in a while, one instance where he steps up and carries the full team. With taco thats not gonna happen.
2020-04-01 18:31
#69
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Brazil FerW 
+10000
2020-04-01 17:29
Tell me when those teams were good without him.
2020-04-02 22:03
#6
MUTiRiS | 
Brazil 1930 
csgo meta with supports died in 2018 now everyone needs to have gamesense, use grenades, follow a certain strat and shoot well taco has the gamesense of a 7 years old and can't fight a t1 player' deagle while using a rifle.
2020-03-31 23:18
exactly +1
2020-03-31 23:20
at tier 1 deagle is stronger than rifle in a lot of situations, higher accuracy, 1 shot headshot, high dps even with body shots, 2 hits to kill to body at close range, dont need to do spray control. i sometimes wonder why dont they buy deagles on ct for long range fights when they have m4 and a lot of money in bank, in older cs games ppl often got deagle for secondary if they could afford it, even if it was just so you can spam 7 more big bullets after you run out of ammo on rifle. in source deagle was literally better than every rifle.
2020-04-01 16:54
#46
flusha | 
World loopoos 
+1
2020-04-01 16:58
Because deagle is not consistent at long ranges. It has high damage drop off making it only reliable for head shots and it’s accuracy falls off drastically.
2020-04-01 17:08
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11tDzUNBq.. Accurate Range Stand / Crouch / Cost / Damage per bullet Desert Eagle 24.58m / 36.46m / $700 / 63 AK-47 22m / 28m / $2700 / 36 M4A4 28m / 32m / $3100 / 33 it is not just reliable for headshots. a tag even at long range anywhere on the body does 25% of hp damage, 33% at mid range, 50% at short range. you only need a few fast peeks and tags to get a player low. when you combo 1 guy with $700 deagle and 1 guy with $1700 scout, together they can oneshot enemies to the body at long range, while the other players individually have spent more on their short range fully automatic rifle than these 2 low eco players together spent on their wombo combo long range killing machine. and its the rifle players who have to commit to spraydowns with their automatic weapons, deagle and scout can go for fast peeks and minimize their exposure obviously if youre going to 1v1 people then yeah you need headshots at long range. but they arent required to win rounds with deags. even in pro games you see a lot of eco rounds won with deags just because a whole team runs out on 1 site together and they all tag the enemies together and spam deagle, if you have 5*7 bullets you will probably be able to get a kill on 2 CTs defending. they do aim for the head but if they dont hit it they can still win
2020-04-01 17:27
twitch.tv/videos/580539672?t=0h47m4s case in point this wasnt exceptional deagle rng, when you spam at exactly this speed while crouched its actually relatively accurate and the bullets do so much damage
2020-04-01 17:36
#59
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Brazil fazecrack 
2020-04-01 17:09
also hes only getting kills cuz of SG, every1 knows what happens when they nerf this weapon, taco doesnt have confidence on his aim, how many times have u seen taco doing dumb things or playing like a bot? how many times you were watching taco playing and when he was supposed to peek and get a free kill he doesnt?...he stands there doing nothing while his whole team were dying... wait until SG's nerf and ppl gonna hate him alot more..
2020-04-01 18:30
I agree. In 2020 the main issue in MIBR is the lack of T rounds, mostly beacuse the tactics are bad or non existent at all. Fallen needs to improve his IGL or find a new one for the team. Thtat is the main problem. TACO is not that good obviously, but he does his role very well.
2020-04-01 16:56
do you think even gla1ve would make this team do good? Not igl fault when your team cant hit shots, do dumb things or cant clutch shit. xaxaxaxa
2020-04-01 17:09
#2
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Europe jigglepeek 
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo 18-18 0 90.2 75.0% 1.20^ bye
2020-03-31 23:15
+1 ChrisJ, RPK did really well as a support player Support is not an excuse anymore
2020-03-31 23:16
also karrigan and fallen arent the same person..they are 2 different team with 2 different playstyle. you cant compare two different team's support's playstyle... chrisj does drop guns but it doesnt make him real support... he is the 2nd awper of the team, also an entry fragger in few maps... on the other hand taco is used like a travel bag. he is more like sanji but better. so just focus on blaming fallen for not getting his shit together instead of blaming taco.
2020-04-01 17:06
strats are not the problem. when you have kng and taco to clutch a round you know its 90% lost dont matter the tactic. Do you think karrigan or gla1ve would do better? lul At least FalleN can clutch.
2020-04-01 17:22
Fallen is a legendary igl...u know that i know that everybody knows that. but he is slacking a lot recently right ? he picking players left and right making roster out of toaster... right now .. if u ask if karrgian and glave could do better with the brazilian talents. i would say 120% they could do better.
2020-04-01 19:05
TACO was second awper for MIBR at one point. What do you mean by travel bag? SANJI always play rifle without kevlar/ or deagle just to drop awp to Jame, and he is expected to lose the aim duel but he won some of them which is remarkable. TACO was a good support years ago because he was baiting for Cold years ago, but stop living in the past, time has changed, you won't win any champions when only 4 players in the team performing and others just lost lots of aim duel when they are expected to win.
2020-04-01 17:45
Taco is really good, but he is being inconsistent in the past year. This is bad for a pro player. So I agree, he should retire.
2020-03-31 23:17
literally impossible to be consistent in this RNG game
2020-04-01 16:54
well, that's just not true Also, TACO is consistent bad, always bottom fragger
2020-04-01 17:32
#9
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Brazil I_Miss_SK 
you understand of CS the same as i understand of Formula 1... nothing, fucking hater
2020-03-31 23:17
nice argument
2020-03-31 23:18
#13
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Brazil I_Miss_SK 
mama aqui ó glub glub
2020-03-31 23:22
criança
2020-03-31 23:25
quando acabar de mamar ele, os 2 podem mamar o meu tb, por gentileza
2020-04-02 21:39
"roles are no longer excuses for bad players, everyone in the team has to frag." Could have said that about the -aleksib +sunNy move. And yes, depending on the role the player has, it is an excuse. Plus the fact that taco has always been the bait player for mibr, there's a reason they've kept him around.
2020-03-31 23:19
he is support
2020-03-31 23:23
#15
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Finland Miroyev 
He plays his role well and his ratings aren't that awful, just below 1
2020-03-31 23:25
His lan rating in the past 12 months is 0.94, worst in top30 along with AZR
2020-03-31 23:27
#21
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Finland Miroyev 
Well mibr as whole has been pretty bad at all lans they've played last year
2020-03-31 23:31
Yeah, he is the worst player of a awful team.
2020-03-31 23:33
well tbf, he's not the one who dropped off the most tho
2020-04-01 11:09
#16
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Czech Republic Rewask 
True that. Supports like Xyp, ChrisJ, Krimz, Ethan perform incredibly well, "he is a support his stats don't have to be good" is not valid anymore
2020-03-31 23:25
krimz best support player in the world
2020-04-01 10:54
#96
ropz | 
Belgium mainak90 
+10000, krimz, xyp, chrisj, even fucking rpk are leagues above taco in mechnical skills and clutching. Even on 1v1 clutches the guy is a fucking handicap for a team.
2020-04-01 17:58
Have to agree even though taco seems like a cool person irl. Player with similar role as taco's; > krimz & flusha > rpk > bntet > twistzz > rain > jackzz & amanek > karrigan The list goes on
2020-03-31 23:26
It's not Rain it's olof
2020-04-01 17:57
+1 he was always bad
2020-03-31 23:26
#23
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Brazil aexy 
TACO IS NOT JUST SUPPORT, HE IS ENTRY KILL SO HAS AN EXPLANATION YES, AND HE IS ONE OF THE BEST IN HIS POSITION
2020-03-31 23:54
you seem angry. why?
2020-04-01 10:52
Ok, he's entry killer... Dupreeh, Elige, rain, hunter and so many others are entry killers too. But they are all amazing players, meanwhile TACO doesn't do shit
2020-04-01 17:30
#122
allu | 
India somecunt 
Not hunter,jackz
2020-04-01 18:54
#24
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Brazil JgzMcz 
Only mibr in top 30 use the type of support that taco does. If u want to change the system is ok to kick him, if not. U will not find any better.
2020-03-31 23:56
mibr system is working perfect. why would they change
2020-04-01 10:53
#37
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Brazil JgzMcz 
OMEGALUL
2020-04-01 16:42
ahhaahahahaahha :DDDDDD
2020-04-01 17:03
#116
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Brazil oldStar 
Kappa
2020-04-01 18:45
HHAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-04-01 19:04
#25
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Europe ipufosenia 
Not only taco but perfecto too
2020-03-31 23:56
#26
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
Finally this community is getting smarter. The first thing I'll ask anyone to see if they understand anything about CS is: "do you think Taco is good?". If the answer is yes, they are surely retarded.
2020-04-01 10:03
good compared to what? compared to avg home player who plays pugs only? yes very good. compared to top tier pros maybe not. but i would bet that a lot of ppl here cant beat him 1v1
2020-04-01 16:56
#84
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
Dude. Honestly, are you trolling? Why would I be comparing a pro player to average people at home?
2020-04-01 17:47
idk why are you calling pro players bad?
2020-04-01 17:48
i mean everyone does dumb shit sometimes in cs but thats what cs is about, anyone who doesnt make 5 mistakes every second is already really good
2020-04-01 17:49
the problem is, how many times have u seen taco doing really dumb things? hes only getting kills nowadays cuz of SG, every1 knows what happens when they nerf this weapon, taco doesnt have confidence on his aim...
2020-04-01 18:21
All saying overrated and his teams - he is underrated :)
2020-04-01 10:45
#28
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Brunei cyLoL 
Taco 2 major s0mple 0 major Taco > s0mple
2020-04-01 10:51
:D
2020-04-01 17:07
#29
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Finland Juseboy 
He made coldzera
2020-04-01 10:52
Coldzera stills playing well, and TACO somehow is even worse
2020-04-01 17:00
Or maybe it was coldzera who made TACO look less shit
2020-04-01 18:34
"me BR fan not happy because MIBR shit taco WORST player in the scene grunt"
2020-04-01 10:54
#34
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United States AlphaMaleHere 
Yes taco is bad but the whole team is washed up. -kng fer taco get 3 new players
2020-04-01 10:56
no TACO no major
2020-04-01 16:46
yea, since TACO is the reason they won 2 majors, right? lmao
2020-04-01 16:59
yes
2020-04-01 17:00
epitácio GOAT 😎👌
2020-04-01 17:01
Yes
2020-04-01 17:45
#39
cam | 
United States girls 
dead is the problem for not +peacemaker
2020-04-01 16:47
#119
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Brazil oldStar 
Peacemaker will help them to disband ! \o/ +1
2020-04-01 18:47
+1 biggest bot he does not understand how lucky he is to even make it this far by being a complete bot
2020-04-01 16:48
+1
2020-04-01 17:22
Only reason he's a pro player is his friendship with coldzera, he was a bot even when they won the major... and somehow the majority of brazilians like him, i will never understand
2020-04-01 18:12
+1
2020-04-01 16:59
#51
ZywOo | 
Portugal showeu 
-1
2020-04-01 17:01
meuzovo portuga ele é ruim dms
2020-04-01 17:01
#55
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Brazil fazecrack 
2 major imgur.com/a/5hgPZ3p /closed
2020-04-01 17:07
Yes, carried by coldzera, doesn't change that fact that he's shit
2020-04-01 17:48
#132
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Brazil fazecrack 
you're wrong and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded
2020-04-01 20:46
nice argument
2020-04-01 22:06
He is very weak and inconsistent, there is no excuses for being a "support" or "entry" for his rating cus they are roles that EVERYONE on the team needs to knows. That roles changes in game due to some stituations, granades that u have, life, map position, respawn and etc... They are a fkn excuse for bad players, and taco is totally horrible.
2020-04-01 17:09
#62
COCAINE | 
Portugal MR_CAL 
dumb af oiq. taco is an amazing player, as a mibr fan i hope he never leaves
2020-04-01 17:10
name checks out. must be a retard
2020-04-01 17:27
#72
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Brazil FerW 
2020-04-01 17:32
#74
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Brazil FerW 
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9217/TACO.. less impact than zeus, less KPR, this guy is insane
2020-04-01 17:33
"Oh, but he's a entry killer" Opening kills per round 0.09 HAHAHAHAHA
2020-04-01 17:34
What people don't seem to understand is: go to a bombsite jumping like a retarded trying to gather information IS NOT THE ROLE OF A ENTRYFRAGGER. literally every other pro player in the world can do that... just put some more skilled guy to do the same shit that TACO does and he will do better
2020-04-01 17:46
Best
2020-04-01 17:35
Very true, being a support player still means you have to frag
2020-04-01 17:44
+1, TACO one of the worst and most toxic players (I don't remember vs who but it happened few months ago, maybe on major? He had like ~30 frags or more on inferno vs good team and he was shouting like a monkey every kill, just like tarik. Both are noobs and shouting to enemy when theyre having a good game (once a year) btw, he lost that game and was very quiet after lose
2020-04-01 17:48
#103
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Brazil FerW 
Tarik mvp of major
2020-04-01 18:24
NEO is THE BEST player of the past DECADE ranked by HLTV. Pasza is major MVP. Adren is major MVP. NBK 2x major winner.That means they're good? No, they are dogshit now.
2020-04-02 12:17
#89
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
when TACO was on Liquid he was playing pretty good, its just that FalleN doesn't understand how to effectively utilize TACO
2020-04-01 17:49
#104
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Brazil FerW 
But liquid just win when taco leave Coincidence?
2020-04-01 18:25
#139
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
arent we talking about taco as an individual
2020-04-02 21:30
Just accept it already. Fallen is the problem, he is outdated
2020-04-01 17:50
mibr was dogshit before taco rejoined he is not the problem
2020-04-01 17:55
Mibr with Stewie and Tarik were way better than mibr right now
2020-04-01 18:50
#94
arT | 
Brazil Maujubudo 
He isn't good at clutches, I agree. But, even so, he managed to clutch our two majors. Go find about the "shaney factor" to see what fallen really think of TACO.
2020-04-01 17:56
TACO is a pet, all these years playing with and against the best players without any improvment? lOl
2020-04-01 18:22
#102
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Brazil Bucho123 
fucking sua opiniao
2020-04-01 18:23
expected lack of argument from Taco fans
2020-04-01 18:26
fucking sua opiniao
2020-04-01 19:30
#131
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Brazil Bucho123 
vai se fude porra ingles é o caralho quero hltv brasileira kkkk
2020-04-01 19:43
so here the MIBR story repeats again...kicking Zews and then TACO..... obviously kicking TACO is not the solution
2020-04-01 18:26
MIBR 2018 (without taco) >>>> MIBR 2019/2020 (with taco) number are there to see.
2020-04-01 18:29
Also, i agree that bring Stewie and tarik wans't the best option, but the team still did better than it does now
2020-04-01 18:30
but 2face toledo prefers to kick the players instead of training them and practising with them to improve their teamplay
2020-04-01 18:35
I really don't think that mibr problem are only their teamplay, the whole team have a great lack of skill, ESPECIALLY TACO. I don't see a way out without changing players.
2020-04-01 18:38
i think that if they do that, MIBR will be the only team in CS history to re-hire and fire a player 3 times (Felps, Zews, TACO)
2020-04-01 18:45
Well, they shouldn't had pick TACO in the first place
2020-04-01 18:47
I mean, obviously its not only teamplay, but fallen used to kick players before them get used to their team and their tactics, but with taco is different no idea why, he wasnt supposed to join back mibr after liquid and also they shouldnt bring a second main sniper to their team, they lose a lot of firepower.
2020-04-01 18:47
Yes, exactly that. 100% agree
2020-04-01 18:48
who cares? cs is gonna be dead in 2 weeks anyways
2020-04-01 18:55
#124
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Europe Niko0 
Taco 2x Major winner > S0mple 0x Major winner Taco better than S1mple you absolute baboon.
2020-04-01 18:57
+1
2020-04-01 22:08
NO
2020-04-01 18:59
MiBR should disband tbh
2020-04-01 19:30
+1 TRASH AIM TRASH MOVEMENT CANT CLUTCH CANT PLAY CT SIDE CANT PLAY T SIDE AWFUL SCREEN
2020-04-01 19:31
wdym hes better than kng and meyern
2020-04-01 22:07
Fallen is the problem and if you do not understand that it is in fact a tactical problem in MiBR you are most likely special...
2020-04-01 22:09
It's 2020 taco cannot be the excuse for mind I fans anymore, you have to realize the whole team is trash
2020-04-01 22:36
Lmao imagine thinking Taco is the problem. The whole team is trash now.
2020-04-02 21:33
TACO is playing better than all of MIBR right now, and he is supposed to be the support just goes to show you how shit MIBR are right now
2020-04-02 21:33
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