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Valorant might actually be the next big thing
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
I know riot bad, magic sux wtf wallhack etc.. but don't be of bad faith and don't get insecure. Afaik this game has the same mechanics as CS, more noob friendly (less recoil more scoped guns but no run and gun) and the abilities that you'll use most of the rounds are like utility, broken ultimates get used like once a half. Anyway, I'm not that hyped, but I'm intrigued and I do think it's gonna hurt CS and be a real challenge, riot games might be a bunch of cunts, but they work hard and communicate well.
2020-04-01 05:17
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who cares big or not, fun game = I'm in
2020-04-01 05:18
#36
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Brazil Br4tZ 
+1
2020-04-01 06:13
I like your attitude.
2020-04-01 06:17
+1
2020-04-01 08:47
+1
2020-04-01 09:51
Same with me, I'm not too interested in class-based shooters, but it looks fun, so I'll give it a go.
2020-04-01 10:57
this
2020-04-01 11:28
#152
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Portugal xxxruixxx 
+1. Can´t wait to try Valorant. I love csgo but I am not a fanboi to the point of rejecting playing other games just because they may be competitors of csgo.
2020-04-01 16:41
Those people need to realize that competition for CS is GOOD! The reason Valve has ignored CS for so long is because the game has no competition.
2020-04-01 20:56
it would be horrible if it sucks for csgo...
2020-04-02 13:30
+1
2020-04-01 20:55
#2
s1mple | 
Europe el1teman 
I have seen the leaked gameplay and im not super hyped but for sure im excited to try it out
2020-04-01 05:18
me too, i hope the movement mechanics are similar to CS. except boosting stuff which is actually dumb
2020-04-01 05:36
I´m very hyped for the game but the movement looks so much worse than cs. Everything else is lit
2020-04-01 15:38
CS movement looks very robotic if it was not for bunny hops and strafing. it is not that hard to have a more fluid movement than CS
2020-04-01 16:37
#171
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
hope i can bhop in valorant
2020-04-01 17:37
bhop and boosting are mechanics that really makes no sense with reality. it would be better if valorant has a better more natural and fluid movement instead
2020-04-01 18:11
#181
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
yeah u are right but abilities like poison smoke walls flying shooting knieves and wallhack arrows have sense with reality
2020-04-01 20:11
#187
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Pakistan HunteR3411 
nailed it xd
2020-04-02 00:55
in a parallel universe with magical heroes it has. you will never see bhopping and manboosting in any parallel universe
2020-04-02 16:24
#189
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
valorant needs tf2 movement or its going to be boring
2020-04-02 01:09
well see
2020-04-01 05:24
Valorant will replace CS. Mark my words. Until Valve doesnt solve cheating problems, Valorant will rise. There are lots of players in semi-pro leagues who blatantly cheats nowadays and i dont doubt a part of current pros have already cheated or are still cheating nowadays.
2020-04-01 05:24
#6
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Don't say ridiculous stuff, CS will never die that's like the first rule of gaming, no matter how shit valve treats the game, people will still play CS.
2020-04-01 05:27
"people will still play CS" --> only retarded, nostalgic and Flusha-like players will keep playing this game if cheating problems are not solved. Valorant will become objectively better than CS
2020-04-01 05:29
Lol cheaters will find their way if Valorant is popular. You gotta be retard if you think that it's somehow cheat-proof.
2020-04-01 05:42
or at least makes it more difficult to cheat. CS has become a fucking joke in regard to cheating
2020-04-01 05:51
#41
flusha | 
World loopoos 
the only joke here is yourself, kid cs has 20 years, probably more than you, and cheating has been way more intense in the past. yes, cs has a cheating preoblem, but it's not affecting professional gameplay integrity or the fun A LOT of people have seen and continue to do in the game throughout those 20 years I play every day and I barely see cheaters. You most probably have a very low rep, or maybe is one of those guys that think everybody cheats so he gotta cheat himself get real and take your bullshit elsewhere valorant ain't even gonna make a scratch at cs:go sovereignty
2020-04-01 07:43
#78
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Norway MIBRpls 
+1
2020-04-01 08:46
#91
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Ok boomer
2020-04-01 09:12
+1
2020-04-01 11:29
"valorant ain't even gonna make a scratch at cs:go sovereignty"----> can you predict the future? Valorant seems very promising, specially with their staff which is open to hear public opinion. That's why they even invited some famous FPS streamers around the world to give them a feedback. Unlike CS games, where they are very closed minded and have never done something like that. Plus CS 1.6 was fucking joke, everybody was cheating. Nowdays is still a joke but not that blatant as 1.6. Even Shroud admitted that everybody cheated on those days
2020-04-01 14:50
you are just a child go play cod and leave please delusional kid
2020-04-01 15:26
#138
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Portugal hpn- 
"Unlike CS games, where they are very closed minded and have never done something like that." You clearly have no clue.
2020-04-01 15:37
did they invite players and other specialists to give them feedback directly to their staff/dev team?
2020-04-01 16:38
#207
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Portugal hpn- 
You should be aware that the devs of csgo take alot in consideration the feedback of many professionals of the game.
2020-04-02 22:30
Maybe but atleast you could get ban from demo in past. Now you can`t. In past flusha would be banned for this youtube.com/watch?v=upI8NYFzhkw
2020-04-01 17:46
no he wouldn't go back to your silver rank and analysis
2020-04-01 19:47
go back to fucking goat you silver trash he cheated and even pro players said that but somehow some fucking loopoos know better haha
2020-04-01 20:53
they retracted, every player who said that or they are hypocrytes to continue playing on a pro environment which is not right obviously only trash players said it flusha is the goat of cs, and you silver trash won't ever understand how he really thinks and plays the game stupid witch hunters
2020-04-01 21:12
i dont play cs anymore but i dont remember seeing a single cheater for at least since 2018
2020-04-01 08:31
"i dont see it so its not a issue" what a dumb argument haha
2020-04-01 09:53
ahhaha i agree. if i dont see it, then it doesnt exist, so i will just cover my eyes to fishy professional plays
2020-04-01 14:47
murilo rt is that you? lmao
2020-04-01 15:26
lol i see he does some good job to put an light in regards to CS cheating but i am not him. i would like to know him and any other youtuber who exposes cheating on CS
2020-04-01 16:40
not wasting my time anymore with low iq teenager go hang out with with muriloRT and leave hltv please
2020-04-01 16:53
#168
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Romania Iosif 
Bitch, why are you so toxic? You either are somewhere around 25+ and think that you are better than him just because he is a teen (you have no proof of that btw) or you are 30+ and in this case you are just plain retarded for acting like that on a fucking gaming forum. Either way, your age doesn't matter, you are the real kid here.
2020-04-01 17:27
do you know who muriloRT is? he's against counter-strike a conspiracy theorist also this kids is spilling a lot of bullshit here, including calling people "gay" because they like some other game I could bet money his age is lower than 15 and his IQ is lower than 30, sorry if you think I'm toxic.
2020-04-01 19:48
You wouldn`t spot cheater even if he spinbot on your body.You would say he have big sens and lucky hs :)
2020-04-01 17:48
all i can assume is youre a fucking mge bot
2020-04-01 14:49
just because i brought up about cheating problems in CS? look at Flusha and Subroza clips in the past...
2020-04-01 15:00
no, just because you're delusional and you think anime game like valorant can kill csgo. cheating is a problem only if 1) youre a noob and think better players are cheating 2) you play shitty valve matchmaking with low trust factor 3) once in a while you actually encounter a real cheater i only encountered obvious cheater once in 3 years of premium faceit, and he was banned midgame
2020-04-01 15:45
lol "2) you play shitty valve matchmaking with low trust factor "----> the fact that you need in another system at another servers Faceit,etc it only proves how bad the game is in itself "3) once in a while you actually encounter a real cheater" ---> you probably dont know how are the semi-pros CS tournaments. you see an entire team using hacks again think better before posting shit...
2020-04-01 16:35
#169
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Romania Iosif 
"I have never met a player doping in UCL, so of course there is no doping in danish 1st division." That's exactly your logic right there. Also, as #148 said, needing a completely unrelated 3rd party paid service to actually enjoy a game you have paid for just proves how bad Valve is as a company.
2020-04-01 17:31
yeah but "watch subroza and flusha clips from the past" is a good argument ? i don't think so lol. valve gives little fuck about csgo, yet it's still the best competetive fps of all time, let that sink in. csgo's whole matchmaking system is made for noobs, so when you reach a plateau (global), i don't mind paying 3 euros a month to progress as a player, although i agree it should be implemented in the game anyway and my argument is bad. maybe i just don't see all this cheating problem because im past your average skillgroup where such topics are relevant and im being very subjective, but i believe there are more bad players calling better players cheaters, instead of actual cheaters (excluding obvious spinbotters etc.)
2020-04-01 17:42
#173
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Romania Iosif 
Of course that is true, but this game is alive only because we don't have anything similar and actually good to play. I will try Valorant and if i find out that it's actually better than this shitshow that is cs go atm I will just sell all my skins and will never touch it again.
2020-04-01 17:46
" but this game is alive only because we don't have anything similar and actually good to play" exactly, because counter strike is one of a kind game for 20+ years, and i don't think anime ability shooter is gonna change that anytime soon, but im curious to try Valorant aswell. peace and balance
2020-04-01 17:49
+1
2020-04-01 15:27
#17
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Finland austrophian 
no kiddo :)
2020-04-01 05:43
ok
2020-04-01 14:51
the game anti cheat is literally like that since the game released, actually much better than years ago, but look, people still play the game, only cry babies like you cry over cheaters, get good
2020-04-01 08:49
well... "crying over cheats" is much more sensible than crying to SG nerf or AWP nerf. really if you want the game to become more fair, one of the first priorities of any game should be prevent or minimizing the amount of cheating either for fun in MM or in professional scene
2020-04-01 14:52
it is minimal
2020-04-01 15:27
like i said, they already improved it alot, idk for how many years you play this game already, but now its much better, 2nd if you cry over cheats, why not just play faceit? and if you actually think any pro would cheat in such a big game, man you're wrong x) we're talking about millions in prize pools, if someone got caught cheating, i dont even want to imagine what would happen to him, no one would risk that
2020-04-02 13:29
"and if you actually think any pro would cheat in such a big game, man you're wrong x) we're talking about millions in prize pools," ----> that's a good reason for one to cheat. why not get easy money?
2020-04-02 16:25
dude, the contracts nowadays are filled with clauses, that would probably ruin your life, also imagine what the org would do if you got caught cheating, probably would sue the shit out of you for the rest of your life. As i said, too many risks, dont see any reason for someone to risk their whole life for that
2020-04-02 18:23
#94
tHm | 
Denmark tHm 
People have literally played CS without any support from any dev since 1999, will you shut the fuck up lol
2020-04-01 09:16
that's why CS is only surviving because of the community and not because of the game itself
2020-04-01 14:53
the community is only about the game dude how delusional are you? your IQ sounds wayyyy low lmao ouro 4 at most
2020-04-01 15:28
hey brazilian hater let me explain to you... the community itself that makes CS great. example: at 1.6 when was released the shield for CT, it was so so OP that the players and the community made a deal to not use it in tournaments. if we depended on Valve's staff shit decisions, the game would suck even more. that's why Valve should be grateful that the community helps them earn money and not because of their merit
2020-04-01 16:47
#155
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Portugal xxxruixxx 
No... it´s sad but csgo only survived because of the skin economy. Look at the amount of players before and after Valve created the skin economy on csgo. It if wasn´t for the skins, csgo would probably be only a niche game now...
2020-04-01 16:44
#156
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Europe porrasm 
They said that when Source 2 Dota, Overwatch, Pubg, Fortnite and Apex came out.
2020-04-01 16:47
difference is that Dota has nothing to do with CSGO, PUBG is battle royale, overwatch fortnite and apex legends are for gays. valorant proposes to be similar to CS. so let's see what will happen
2020-04-01 16:49
I think with source 2 coming in like 2 months(if real) the cheats will all not work anymore and most players that switched will come back to cs to try it out on the new engine
2020-04-01 07:53
i think CS games has a flaw, it's so easy to cheat, because of the nature of the game itself. Games like LoL doesnt have so many cheaters because of the nature of the game itself, it was designed in such a way that doesnt give so many advantage to cheaters or they are easily spotted
2020-04-01 14:54
it is not easy to cheat and not get caught.
2020-04-01 15:29
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk says so a fan of flusha
2020-04-01 16:41
Thats the same flaw with valorant then
2020-04-01 16:48
the game is not even released lol
2020-04-01 16:50
"because of the nature of the game itself"
2020-04-01 16:53
lmao if u think ppl hate cheaters then why u think they enjoy game with build in wallhack abilities
2020-04-01 08:09
lol that's exactly one of the reasons valorant can become good in regarding to wallhack cheating since that feature is already available in the game. Please think before posting non-sense garbage, HLTV people....
2020-04-01 14:55
games gonna be fun when u cant pick the wallhack dude because some noob took it )) enjoy never seeing enemy topfragger
2020-04-01 15:00
hahahaha expected from a non-brainer albanian... use your brain before writing shit stuff
2020-04-01 15:01
valorant can become good in regarding to wallhack cheating since that feature is already available in the game.valorant can become good in regarding to wallhack cheating since that feature is already available in the game.valorant can become good in regarding to wallhack cheating since that feature is already available in the game.valorant can become good in regarding to wallhack cheating since that feature is already available in the game. meybe it's time for u to use brain, after all u did write this sentence.
2020-04-01 15:04
I apologize for Brazil. This Mysterious guy is not a mistery at all. He's a dumb child from brazil with a very low IQ. Don't take him seriously please.
2020-04-01 15:31
#5
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New Zealand rOtten_97 
It'll be like a mini fortnite. Blow up and die after a year or two
2020-04-01 05:26
#7
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Thing is riot knows how to maintain a game for years, like LoL for example
2020-04-01 05:28
#11
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New Zealand rOtten_97 
Thing is, they only have LoL and no other game, and its not even a fps game. I have a feeling Valorant won't last long
2020-04-01 05:32
valorant actually looks very promising
2020-04-01 05:33
The gameplay released looks like shot tbh. But maybe the finished game will be better. LoL also looked and played like shit in the beginning.
2020-04-01 15:44
#23
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Germany Krygaz 
True. Their card game is dead already. It failed on Hearthstone like this will fail on cs
2020-04-01 05:53
Yup. Obviously this game will have lots of initial hype like streamers going for 24h and forcing people to watch their streams to get beta keys which means people are gonna use multiple accounts to boost the viewing numbers. Also most of this hype like 90% is because of counter strike :D 6 months and Valorant is dead.
2020-04-01 06:09
#42
flusha | 
World loopoos 
yes, the funny thing is 90% is because of csgo lmao just like pubg
2020-04-01 07:44
fortnite is for gays, dont compare with valorant plz
2020-04-01 05:28
#43
flusha | 
World loopoos 
you are really 14 lmao
2020-04-01 07:45
+1
2020-04-01 09:57
valorant have chicken?
2020-04-01 05:32
Valorant will kill cs even hltv will switch to writing about valorant
2020-04-01 05:38
#15
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
0/8
2020-04-01 05:41
I’m not baiting, do you think this game will last forever?
2020-04-01 05:45
agreed with you. if HLTV is smart, they switch to Valorant when they realize that 50% of previous CSGO population moved to Valorant
2020-04-01 05:53
Glad we are on the same page.
2020-04-01 06:11
#45
flusha | 
World loopoos 
you tried hard 2/8
2020-04-01 07:45
I tried hard? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-04-01 07:47
#18
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Estonia encer 
This game will be bigger than CSGO, bigger than any fps in the world, and i'll be playing it in the highest level. With all i've learn making mistakes, making good friends, and having good people around me. I will give my best in VALORANT
2020-04-01 05:43
#30
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
8/8 nt n9ted
2020-04-01 06:03
#46
flusha | 
World loopoos 
valorant is a game for ex csgo cheaters
2020-04-01 07:46
never cheated in my life and playing since the beginning of cs, can't wait to switch to valorant, cs is rotten.
2020-04-01 07:48
#51
flusha | 
World loopoos 
you are rotten. and good riddance, we will be here to welcome you when you come back, which will happen for sure lmao
2020-04-01 07:49
or we will welcome u in valorant after half a year
2020-04-01 07:54
#61
flusha | 
World loopoos 
dude valorant ain't coming to get cs it's way less tactical it's way more anime-like it has magic powers and bullshit alike skill cieling way lower than cs why you think it could win against cs? it's something completely different if you look at it besides other anime shooters, it makes much more sense: ow, paladins, fortnite, maybe even some pubg and other battle royale it would be a really huge risk to try to take cs:go, being one of the most popular videogames ever in history. this is not the case for these other class B or C or D or E games, which makes them good targets - way less loyalty from playerbases aswell.
2020-04-01 07:59
it's not about that, i know it's not like csgo, but similar enough for cs players to try it. and fun is what matters, if you will jump in valorant and have way more fun why stick to cs?
2020-04-01 08:03
#65
flusha | 
World loopoos 
have you witnessed pubg, fortnite, ow, etc? a lot of people move, love the game, think they will never return to cs but after 6 months they don't even play the game anymore, and come back to cs this is an old story which keeps repeating it is possible a lot of players love it, but because it's not competing with cs, the fun/value cs provides won't change at all, because valorant ain't even tryint to make a substitute for cs (#62) some will stay, and there will be a small scene from subsidies, but at the end of the day it will be just like other games mentioned. I may be somewhat wrong only if one thing happens: they introduce actual original new gameplay concepts or mechanics that people have never seen before and LOVE IT - which doesn't seem to be the case at all, it's just a mashup of other games mechanics from what they showed us to this moment. I think it can be a very strong product and hurt anime shooters badly, but cs has nothing to do with this, because it provides unique flavor, and people are in love with this flavor, and have been for 20y
2020-04-01 08:08
we shall see, as a cs player i've only played ow for mb 5 hours, 0 pubg and maybe 100 hours of fortnite. valorant legit looks interesting and promising to me. too early to tell, you'd have to touch the game before judging.
2020-04-01 08:12
#71
flusha | 
World loopoos 
maybe you don't understand the market dynamics at place, but it's all good. I hope you play valorant and have a very good time But if you are legit cs:go lover you won't ever leave for good - we don't care if you take a trip though, maybe if it's 1, 2 years lmao Maybe you ain't a csgo lover though, which would be also fine - but there are a lot of us, and we will make sure cs stays supreme - unless someone does a valid substitute (which seems almost impossible today considering #62). There's a reason riot decided not to copy cs. I'm not judging nothing. I think it will succeed. Not against cs, though.
2020-04-01 08:15
#170
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Romania Iosif 
Why the fuck are you getting everything so personal? Is Gaben fucking you or your mother? Wtf is wrong with your shit brain?
2020-04-01 17:35
CS isn't gonna die lol, look at how many boomers fondly remember 1.6s various bugs as a good thing, and not a detraction from what Counter-Strike really is. It's just a simple gamemode, where a believably realistic show of force goes down between 2 sides armed with guns. That's all it needs to be, and reality is rarely more (except grenades are lethal, and so on)
2020-04-01 05:46
#31
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Obviously CS will never die, but it might not be the best game in it's field anymore
2020-04-01 06:03
Watching the devs play it, it looks too much like an Overwatch clone. I don't think it's exactly evergreen territory they're wading into, but few other companies have the resources Riot do
2020-04-01 07:28
#47
flusha | 
World loopoos 
lmao what game is better than cs in it's "field" ? you are delusional valorant ain't even gonna compete directly against cs, they are coming for paladins+fortnite+ow and other anime shooters audience
2020-04-01 07:47
#49
flusha | 
World loopoos 
it's so naive if you think that's all there is for counter-strike lmao many have tried to do it better, because it is "so simple", but never did it cs:go reigns supreme after 20y and will continue to ar may change the game some day, but that's about it
2020-04-01 07:48
You may have misunderstood me. The rules for Counter strike are intuitively simple, there's guns and a 2-minute shootout under time pressure. Whereas if I watched Overwatch or LoL and, having never played either I have no idea what's going on with this hero or this timing. What CS does really well is a really polished execution, which is anything but simple. Others have tried and failed
2020-04-01 08:27
#75
flusha | 
World loopoos 
yeah but now your speaking about spectator audience, which is different from playerbase. csgo is unique as a Game to be played, very intuitive and with A LOT of very good and well balanced depth. think about it: how would yourself create a better copy of cs? cs is almost perfect in a lot of ways because it fully fulfills our need for extreme hardcore tactical and skill-based fps gameplay. can you tell me a single mechanic you would completely change and have game design arguments consistent enough to support it? I doubt it very hardly. ok it could have a better anti-cheat, and maybe 128tick, and lower sg price a bit - but what else can you complain? cs is a fucking awesome game with a fucking awesome ecossystem provided to support it. Also cs was not created at once. It was a very long process with community deeply involved. Valorant didn't present a SINGLE original gamedesign mechanic or concept. Maybe it will be fun, maybe more fun than other anime shooters, but that's about it. Cs playerbase is not only very loyal, but it's fucking addicted to the game lmao. A lot of people play ow or paladins, or pubg on the side, 2 times a week, but what they are really playing most of the time is cs.
2020-04-01 08:33
Here, have an up vote! I remember the feeling from 2001 when i got my first taste of CS. There isnt anything to replace it. Even i dont play it anymore myself, maybe on lan 2-3times per year, i do watch it. Allmost every big tournament, and my boi AleksiOG!
2020-04-01 09:05
#89
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Okay boomer Nt fake global elite 😎 Maybe get gud instead of blaming Valorant and misunderstanding every comment in this thread
2020-04-01 09:09
I can't even reply to that. It's just a rambling wall of text that adds nothing to the conversation
2020-04-01 09:20
well I'm sorry Waveform I thought I was replying to someone else when I wrote #75. I believe we are in agreement here, more or less, as you seem reasonable. but you clearly have some confusion between the playing aspect of cs, and cs as a spectator esports.
2020-04-01 15:46
No worries, thanks for clearing that up
2020-04-01 17:14
CS mechanics + Anticheat + 128 tick + ranked ladder + paying money for top ranked players Huge
2020-04-01 05:49
the question is about CS mechanics. How similar it will be. if it becomes convincingly similar, than probably many legit CSGO players will move to Valorant
2020-04-01 05:55
+shit graphics + p2w + shit abilities shit
2020-04-01 05:58
Most abilities are just like utilities Graphics omegalul, 1.6 >source P2w no
2020-04-01 05:59
bro it has fucking wallhack arrow just like in ow. this game wont achieve anything
2020-04-01 06:04
Drones in comp lmao
2020-04-01 07:45
drones in comp?
2020-04-01 08:50
Yeah you can use drones in competitive 5v5 in valorant
2020-04-01 10:41
oh, i thought it was about cs, mb
2020-04-01 10:45
L M A O
2020-04-01 15:46
#53
flusha | 
World loopoos 
this is not even true, but people keep saying this it has nothing to do with utility there's wallhack ability, new wall ability, and other bullshit. not even similar to utility in cs game design.
2020-04-01 07:51
#76
flusha | 
World loopoos 
they have 0 experience on fps anti-cheat and there's 0 companies better than ValvE at fps anti-cheat tech. how in hell do you think this project a anti-cheat will be better than cs:go vacnet? get real dude
2020-04-01 08:36
LMAO, fucking delusional Valve fanboy. Even trash, small 3rd party companies like Esportal and Gamersclub are able to have an anticheat 10 times better than VAC. Even BattlEye and OW's AC are 10x better than VAC.
2020-04-01 08:44
#79
flusha | 
World loopoos 
esportal and gamersclub probably use manual review lmao you are comparing companies that provide for 50k players against valve? get real dude why is battle eye or ow ac 10x better than valve? valve has patents on anti-cheat tech with ai and anti-cheat in cs is awesome what the fuck are you talking about? what do you think is wrong with valve ac?
2020-04-01 08:46
Lol, how can someone be this delusional and in denial? Valve themselves created Trust Factor because their pathetic AC couldn't handle the amount of cheaters. Ow plays every big and major qualify in their own server, with their own ACs, they don't have to rely on ESEA/FACEIT for their open qualis. Im done talking with a delusional Valve fanboy, this is hilarious, defending VAC as a good Anticheat in 2020 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 delusionaaaaaal
2020-04-01 09:15
only reason ow has a pro scene is subsidies the main difference between esea/faceit anticheat and valve's is intrusiveness you must be one of those muriloRT fans who dream of cheating conspiracies. fuck off
2020-04-01 15:44
valve needs to listen to the players before its too late. If they keep the bullshit with not nerfing sg, keeping the same fucking maps in rotation and generally just showing to care players will leave.
2020-04-01 05:59
#54
flusha | 
World loopoos 
the game is doing alright and keeps setting new records are you delusional? you haters are fucking cs lovers in a bad moment, that's all say all the bullshit you want, at the end of the day you will play cs, or at least come to hltv
2020-04-01 07:52
The he is setting records because it is now free to play lol. I like playing the game but it will die or it'll just become irrelevant like tf2.
2020-04-01 09:47
It's been free to play since december 2018 lol.
2020-04-01 09:51
nah, the game won't die. i still doubt valorant will be that big. the supposed "cs" killers in a long term, lost their player base, why valorant should be any different?
2020-04-01 08:52
I'm sorry how is making magic walls, and having special magic powers the same mechanics as CS? Day of Defeat literary ran in Half-Life mechanics - did that make it as popular a game as CS? CS at the end of the day is about tactical terror vs counter-terror units. It's a whole different genre. Stop posting about this trashy game on this forum. It's better served on forums like overwatch or apex legends. Battlefield is a closer game to CS than whatever the fuck this is
2020-04-01 06:00
#40
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Movement and shooting mechanics are literally stolen feom CS, they just added spells to make it look different and appeal to the weebs
2020-04-01 07:37
#57
flusha | 
World loopoos 
this is just what they want you to believe, because they wanna tease csgo audience I can bet you real money there won't be nothing like bhoping or good air mechanics like in cs also shooting will be easier skill cieling will be wayyyy lower than csgo just like ow,paladins,fortnite, etc
2020-04-01 07:54
movement looks nothing like it. talking about gunplay all weeb game guns are zoomable.
2020-04-01 15:04
If Valve keeps ignoring the problems that CS currently have, CS will drop off. I'm not saying CS will die, but it won't be as popular as it is now. I'm excited to try out Valorant, but I doubt it will kill CS, because CS is such a big name in the FPS scene so for it to die would be extremely difficult unless Valve fucks up really bad.
2020-04-01 06:09
#58
flusha | 
World loopoos 
what problem? while you say these, cs just beat a few all time records lmao delusional people on this thread all over
2020-04-01 07:55
Are you trying to imply that CSGO has no flaws with your "what problem?“ comment? If so, you can't be serious. Just because something is popular it doesn't mean it is flawless. I only said that CS will die if Valve continues to ignore the problems because Riot is seriously trying to compete with CS. That means Riot will fix problems that are needed. So, because of that, people will probably move over to Valorant. CS as a game is enjoyable and competitive, but these problems ruin the fun. The flaws include cheaters, RNG, broken hitboxes and so on... if you want more examples, take a look at what the CS community is complaining about. It's not just us "delusional people" that are complaining. Heck, even some pros are. I'm not one of those who claim that CS is going to die after the release of Valorant. I'm just willing to give it a chance and so should others. If Valorant fails, then good for CS. But if it becomes successful it will also in a way benefit CS. It will create a new rivalry for FPS just like in MOBA, like Dota 2 vs LOL. Also one last thing. If CS doesn't die (which I believe is the most likely thing to happen and is something I assume you would be happy about) but still has these problems, it still isn't a good thing. It will only give CS a bad reputation. An example would be Fortnite.
2020-04-01 11:26
1. riot is not trying to compete with cs, you don't have a clue you are just repeating what you read on internet without any brains 2. cs has problems, but it doesn't "ruin the fun". Otherwise it would be one of the most popular and fast growing games on planet 3. I wish cs problems get addressed, but they are not putting the game at serious risk in any manner atm 4. please continue complaining, it is good.
2020-04-01 15:38
1. Okay I admit, I might be wrong on Riot trying to kill off CSGO. But, you can't deny that Valorant and CS will have many similarities in gameplay, except for the OP abilities which me myself am not to keen on. The fact that Valorant is 5v5, the abilities are used like utility, the fact that it has the defuse/plant the bomb objective and the aiming is similar to CS. The reason why I say CS is at risk is because IF Valorant manages to keep their promise of having a good anti-cheat, high tick rate servers and so on, people will move over because right now, CS isn't addressing said issues. 2. At first, I can ignore the problems. But imagine if the problems come up time and time again. Eventually, the fun will fade away. I love CS and will defend it when I can, but the more these problems keep popping up, the more I start to dislike CS for not properly addressing these problems. Others have felt the same way as I am. You're probably just lucky not to encounter these problems as much, hence why you say it doesn't ruin the fun. 3. That's exactly my point. Right now CS is doing great and I am glad, but in the long term it will have an effect. That's why the problems need to be adressed as soon as possible, before the player count starts to decrease. 4. Yes I will continue complaining about the problems of CS until they're gone. I care about CS and I want it to thrive. I'm not asking for new guns or anything, I'm just asking for Valve to fix the problems that CS currently have. All in all, I still think CS won't die at the end of the day, and I think Valorant and CSGO can both exist peacefully. I just want to explain why the CS community shouldn't just look down on Valorant, because the game has potential. Thanks for taking the time to reply to me, I enjoyed our conversation. Thank you and I hope you stay safe during these uncertain times. :)
2020-04-01 16:27
hey mate you are reasonable and have a good spirit :) but I believe there are a few things you are not grasping: 1: in market dynamics we study value proposition. because an offer has similarities with other offers, it doesn't mean it's going for the same value proposition. Although valorant may be similar to cs, it's not aiming to deliver the same value proposition. Cs has an unique value proposition that have been tested and strengthened throughout the years. Only way such a beloved unique value can be undermined is by substitute offers, which is not the case at all, even though there are similarities. 2: maybe you haven't been around for so long, I have played cs since the beginning 2 decades ago. We had A LOT of problems throughout those years, and it never died - to the contrary, it's still growing wildly after 20 years. Do you know of any other multiplayer game that has achieved something like that? Most game products die very fast in comparison. So the problems are already "coming up time and time again". Only reason you feel so much 'hate' or 'panic' for this problems and fear of bad effects is because you too madly love cs. Which is the primary reason it's not at risk :) 3. people won't move away from cs unless there's a better substitute. It's not about anticheat and 128 tick, you are only scratching surface here. There's MUCH MORE to csgo both ingame and on ecossystem supporting it. In order to directly compete with cs, a new entrant would have to offer AT LEAST the all the same attributes, or better versions of them, and the likelihood for that from Riot with Valorant is ZERO. 4. these said problems within csgo are not as big as you make them sound, in reality. just check data 5. the reason I do not encounter cheaters is not luck. it has been a SERIOUS problem in the past, but it's much better now. I don't encounter them because I'm a good player, always respectful, never cheated, 16yo steam account, thousands of games, few reports, never lobbied with cheaters/griefers. If you have a good behavior in no time you will be playing awesome games like I do. You have no clue how it was to play 1.6 on IRC scrims. That was really cheat paradise, no matchmaking, etc etc etc and nevertheless it didn't kill cs even though it was 100x worst than today :) have a great time and keep safe too
2020-04-01 16:41
Ah I get it now. I did not know much about the 1.6 days because I'm still young and didn't have the chance to experience the glory days. Thanks for the details, it's obvious you too care deeply for CS and have a lot of memories with it. I used to play cracked versions of 1.6 and CSS, just playing against bots when I was 11. (I'm 17 now) I never really loved the game back then. But in 2017, I suddenly got the urge to play CS again and that's when I downloaded a cracked version of CSGO. I think my love started when I found out about the pro scene, when I watched highlights of kennyS. It was the first time I ever truly loved a game, so I did something I never thought I would. The reason I downloaded cracked games was because my dad never allowed me to buy games because he thought it was a waste of money. But I really liked CS so I begged him to buy it for me. It took a while but he finally bought it. And I was really, really happy. I played it a lot to this day. I'm still not good though, haha. :D I hope CS will never die, because it brought me so many memories. In 1.6, playing in cs_assault and cs_italy. In CSS, downloading tons of mods and in CSGO, always play until 15:0 but switch teams to try to comeback. :')
2020-04-01 17:15
cs is indeed a very special game :D have heaps of fun my friend :)
2020-04-01 19:53
I doubt it will kill the pro CS scene, but it will definitely make the CS player base smaller, that's just common sense. Hell if it's fun, I will play it.
2020-04-01 06:24
#59
flusha | 
World loopoos 
common sense? get real son you don't know what you talking about and I can see logic is something far away from you perspective
2020-04-01 07:55
Judging by your reply I can see that I may have struck a nerve. CS will have an active player base for many years to come, but the amount of players will inevitable become smaller. If you genuinely believe that to not be true, then you are incredibly naive.
2020-04-02 00:40
why will it inevitably get smaller? this has not been the case for last 20y, even though naive boys were saying the same shit from week one. maybe what you don't understand is a player can play a new game without ever abandonning another one. If you see 500.000 players for X games, and 300.000 players for Y games, you are not talking about a total of 800.000 players because most players play more than 1 game. therefore your logic is no good
2020-04-02 01:04
#86
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Canada ProvexPyker 
+1
2020-04-01 09:00
It will be like LoL is to Dota, LoL didnt kill Dota but is more popular
2020-04-01 07:50
#60
flusha | 
World loopoos 
lol and dota appeared almost at the same time, each being a split from previous warcraft game. valorant is 20y late if it wants to compete with cs also it has no chance and that's not even riot's plan
2020-04-01 07:56
Dota is from early 00's and LoL is from 2009... CS is a huge brand, I think Valorant will have with time a bigger player base because Is more noob friendly, colorful ( girls and kids like It ), fresh, can run in any poor PC ( Brazilians, Viets, Chinese, Russians, etc have bad PC ). Is targeting China and South Korea (CSGO is pretty dead in east asia) scene will explode with new pros, streamers, content creators, etc PS: If it become popular in eastasia we will really see If europeans are the kings of FPS...
2020-04-01 08:07
#67
flusha | 
World loopoos 
yes I'm sure it can do all these things you have said and become a huge success but it won't hurt csgo at all it will hurt other anime style shooters valorant is coming for other audience, not cs, in reality.
2020-04-01 08:11
#69
flusha | 
World loopoos 
if you want to compare dota vs lol with cs, you will have crossfire
2020-04-01 08:12
Crossfire sucks, It's like a poor copy of 1.6
2020-04-01 08:14
#72
flusha | 
World loopoos 
which is exactly what dota players say about lol which is true because it can run in potato machines, just like crossfire, and unlike csgo or dota nevertheless crossfire has had a huge audience over the years crossfire is a straight cs go poor clone, which is not exactly the case between dota and lol though
2020-04-01 08:17
#62
flusha | 
World loopoos 
if ANY COMPANY would want to take csgo it would need: -to make a better game -to provide a better ecosystem (including anti-cheat, community, market, support, quality matchmaking, new maps development, good skins, an awesome platform like Steam, sustainable professional circuit, etc etc) there's no chance nobody is taking such a huge risk, first because they don't have a fucking clue on how to make a better game than cs. no company does, not even valve, for this genre. cs was created and maintained by community since day 1.
2020-04-01 08:04
the only thing that will kill this game, is the hype around it, mark my words. The game looks fun to me, but the hype people are making, its always like that, when games have a lot of hype, people always seem to get upset when they actually play it
2020-04-01 08:53
#85
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Canada ProvexPyker 
The game caters more to tf2 players than it does to csgo players, at best it will take the casual players from cs, whoever that is
2020-04-01 08:57
Valorant will be fun game, lots of people will play it and it effect little bit to CS scene but not much, just like OW did. What people doesnt seem to get, is that CS is truly "sports like" with all the competition aspects behind it, it is not "just a game" like many other FPS games are like. CS aint going no where, and thats bit sad, because Valve really should make some kind efforts to make it better.
2020-04-01 09:01
#93
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Csgo 2 after they finish half life 3 and TF3
2020-04-01 09:15
First of all both CS and this game will coexist, all this game provides is a different take on a 5v5 competitive FPS, I don't know why you kids are so obessed with "who will win CS or Valorant " it will most likely be both. What I am disappointed as per usual with every fucking new FPS is the movement that Valorant have, if you want an exciting eSport have good movement. A
2020-04-01 09:11
As long as skin market dies and dumbass kids leave cs then im happy
2020-04-01 09:57
CS Mechanics with Overwatch/Fortnite style. Yes this might be the next big thing but it will fall off instantly. Plus CSGO never dies.
2020-04-01 10:02
you cant kill cs. you cant compete with cs. either you make a different game like overwatch or a cheap copy of cs. cs is the perfect foundation of a 5vs5 competitive shooter.
2020-04-01 10:52
Problem is : 95% of playerbase not playing it competitive ;)
2020-04-01 11:08
#136
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Russia RogueDecay 
yes thats why we have 700k+ viewers at every big tournament, must be because playerbase are casuals and play only dm
2020-04-01 15:33
delusional
2020-04-01 15:40
If they will bring proper anticheat : i can see a lot of players there (not pro players, but regular ppl that jsut having fun daily on FSP games) move to valorant; then, which org will want to have a t2/3 team with small player base game (csgo)? Mid tier competition will die, high tier will significantly drop. AFter all - orgs interested in selling merch, and if there are no player base to follow = there are no ppl to buy merch.
2020-04-01 11:06
that is not necessarily bad, csgo dying could motivate valve to put some effort into new shooter game to make money instead of just releasing new operations and skins
2020-04-01 15:16
even ONSCREEN said that this game is awesome so I'm in, this game is gonna be a big thing
2020-04-01 14:53
#166
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Onscreen is a c*unt btw just sayin
2020-04-01 17:18
why is that ?
2020-04-01 17:23
not interested in any shooter game with special abilities in competitive games. too much bullshit.
2020-04-01 15:03
#127
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Sweden Dippe 
I'm super fucking hyped for this game, and I look forward to playing it and hope it will maintain its popularity like LoL and CS, and while I think some of the CS players will switch over, I don't belive it will kill CS off, not even close. Will play both tho
2020-04-01 15:06
#137
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Russia RogueDecay 
the more you overhype the game the more shit it gonna be it applies to everything in life and LOLGO will be perfect example
2020-04-01 15:36
#159
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Portugal xxxruixxx 
Wow... so many opinions about a game that almost no one in HLTV has played yet..
2020-04-01 16:49
#190
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
when the game releases ? and will it run on my potato GPU that can barely run CSGO ?
2020-04-02 01:12
no it won't, I mean it could easily as your potato GPU could run crysis 3, but you know, game devs are getting paid by nvidia so they can sell their new superduper 50000 GTX series
2020-04-02 13:32
#195
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
My potato GPU can't run Crysis 3 but last I heard , they were deliberately making the graphics shit for this game in order to make it less hardware intensive for peeps like me.
2020-04-02 13:45
yeah maybe thats correct and actually good move, more people = more money and it wont be photorealistic game anyway
2020-04-02 13:47
#197
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
yea it is a good move but honestly , i wouldnt ever give the game a try because i hate these ability like games (overwatch etc) but i am running out of stuff to play on this shitty gpu and this might be something new .
2020-04-02 14:21
maybe play some good singleplayer games
2020-04-02 15:16
#199
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
i have ran out of options here mate , can you suggest some low spec demanding ones ?
2020-04-02 16:09
idk maybe civ 5?
2020-04-02 16:23
#205
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
not a fan of these turn based games but thanks for the recommendation mate.
2020-04-02 16:33
wtf since when magisk sucks? he uses wallhack?
2020-04-02 13:30
this game will never overtake CS because its run by beta company (riot) who gets triggered if you say mean things to people.
2020-04-02 16:11
#203
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Poland perun2033 
LOL, are you drunk?
2020-04-02 16:24
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