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Most overrated AWPer
Yugoslavia s1zar 
Who is the most overrated AWPer? kennyS? Guardian? Or fallen?
2020-04-01 09:03
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Dev1ce
2020-04-01 09:03
+1
2020-04-01 09:04
Ecovice.
2020-04-02 17:52
-1
2020-04-03 14:53
#372
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Germany iBUYPOLAND 
+0
2020-04-03 21:45
#14
cajunb | 
Turkey kakoka 
+1
2020-04-01 09:10
#129
NBK- | 
Croatia Ronyash 
cajunb lmao
2020-04-02 03:16
NBK- lmao
2020-04-02 05:34
#160
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Finland iBait 
Strong Legs lmao
2020-04-02 05:39
#173
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Brazil zzzzzzznt 
OG gigakekw
2020-04-02 06:40
#198
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United States Jack1CS 
DIGNITAS OMEGAGIGAKEKLULW
2020-04-02 07:38
og lol
2020-04-02 08:01
Zero KEKW
2020-04-02 09:46
#252
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Brazil hrp__ 
!!!dont RENAME ME loool
2020-04-02 16:35
#260
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United States RAK47 
The most overated is jw
2020-04-02 16:44
#329
frozen | 
Czech Republic Cuki_ 
autist OMEGALUL
2020-04-03 11:08
FROZO LOL
2020-04-03 21:35
never been primary awper except in source
2020-04-02 20:26
ikr
2020-04-02 20:37
#211
cajunb | 
Turkey kakoka 
If cajunb has million numbers of fan i am one of them . if cajunb has ten fans i am one of them. if cajunb has no fans, that means i am no more on the earth . if world is against cajunb, i am against the world.
2020-04-02 09:11
simp
2020-04-02 09:52
#248
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United States flex_ 
+1 lmao
2020-04-02 16:26
#375
cajunb | 
Turkey kakoka 
hey, it's cajunb here and I'm here to fuck your ass
2020-04-04 02:20
#384
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United States flex_ 
my asshole strictly off limits
2020-04-04 11:33
+1
2020-04-01 09:17
+1
2020-04-01 09:30
+1
2020-04-01 09:31
#37
ropz | 
Canada Bucket0 
-1
2020-04-01 09:55
+1
2020-04-01 09:56
+1 for name
2020-04-03 10:44
+1
2020-04-03 21:38
#39
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Finland ToxicDUD 
+1
2020-04-01 09:56
-111111111111111 Say that when s0mple wins one, just one, major
2020-04-01 10:09
#67
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United States fatburger 
everything checks out
2020-04-01 10:13
#63
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United States fatburger 
+1
2020-04-01 10:11
+1
2020-04-01 10:20
How can he be overrated if he's literally the #1 awper?
2020-04-01 10:25
#93
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Europe tokyo999 
Dev1ce is a good player, one of the best, maybe the best, buuuut i dont think he is even in top5 awpers bro.
2020-04-01 10:34
i cant name 5 awpers better in terms of overall value, device is the "star" of astralis and his positioning is unmatched by any other awper, if i could try to name 5 awpers right now that are better i would only say s1mple, kennys, and maybe zywoo, fallen is washed, guardian is washed, no one else can compare
2020-04-02 03:37
Cerq, s1mple, and zywoo all have better aim and can have higher impact than device. Kenny isn't even the best on g2 anymore and he really isn't in contention for top 5 awpers.
2020-04-02 05:40
just because the shot was flick doesnt make it any more impactful.
2020-04-02 06:20
+1
2020-04-02 06:45
+1
2020-04-03 08:48
Wow +1
2020-04-03 22:04
cerq LMAO his rifling is not good. it’s passable at best, meanwhile device was still a top 5 player with rifles. cerq was barely top 20 in a year where device was 3rd LMAO
2020-04-02 16:37
jamppi bestest
2020-04-02 16:40
That's why this is about awpers
2020-04-02 17:25
awp "aim" lmao. he mostly goes for flashy flicks which is a byproduct of poor crosshair placement, although his movement is very good so it does make up for that device actually has great impact, last year he ended with a 1.29 impact rating which is higher than most entry fraggers. his passive style is impactful because he will never be giving up free kills to the enemy team and his aim with rifles is also not bad, it is definitely better than cerq's aim. and obviously s1mple and zywoo are mechanically better than device. but navi and vitality play very differently to astralis. also, by your logic scream is the best because "he has better aim" so judging a player off aim is absolutely retarded. hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/11219/CeRq?startD.. cerq totally has higher impact than device lol and 2020 isnt much different
2020-04-02 17:40
cerq has less impact than device, device would be a top 3 awper at worst behind s1mple and zywoo
2020-04-02 18:15
Device top 5 rifling??? Are you retarded?
2020-04-03 10:16
#385
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Europe tokyo999 
hallzerk and zywoo are much better than device in awping. As i said, device is the best astralis player, he is good af, but hes not a top awper
2020-04-04 18:02
explain how, device plays in t1, gives him the edge over hallzerk, he has the best positioning of any awper and doesnt rely on fast flicks and reaction, just calm calculated shots, device plays off utility, astralis plays around him, btw top 5 for the last 5 years
2020-04-04 18:05
#388
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Europe tokyo999 
Everything you mentioned are overall player qualities, not awp qualities. Thats what i been saying. He is amazing player. But not best awper
2020-04-04 18:29
not saying he is best awper, top 3 for sure, but device uses the awp significantly more than his rifles, something zywoo doesnt do
2020-04-04 19:06
#390
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Europe tokyo999 
As for PURE awp skills, device is not top3 man. Pure awp skills are like reaction time, flicks, no zooms etc. Zywoo, s1mple and hallzerk are better in those aspects than device. But the thing is device is smart, he knows hes not good at it, so like u said, he focuses more on positioning and utility. But those are common qualities. Once again, im not denying hes a good player, imo hes the best ever, when he was in his prime. But not top3-5 awper. He is insanely smart which makes him look like a good awper
2020-04-04 20:28
He's playing the awper role perfectly imo. Going for safe peeks to create openings for his team if the enemy team slacks on their utility, basically forcing them to make sure they properly flash/smoke every possible awp angle.
2020-04-02 15:40
#235
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Australia CLEGGY 
Fanboy detected
2020-04-02 12:14
#98
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Finland Juseboy 
+1
2020-04-01 10:41
0/8
2020-04-01 10:42
#101
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Denmark Howlite 
+1
2020-04-01 10:42
#130
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United States Frotha 
Unexpected
2020-04-02 03:17
#108
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Germany BIGBESTEST 
-999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
2020-04-01 11:00
fuck no dude he is on my opinion THE best awper rn
2020-04-01 11:06
not even top5 awpers
2020-04-02 12:11
#234
INS | 
Australia CLEGGY 
Fanboy detected
2020-04-02 12:14
+1
2020-04-02 03:09
He is a good AWP'er - But not bestest, since a lot of people think that... He is overrated +1
2020-04-02 03:18
+1
2020-04-02 06:48
#132
ScreaM | 
Poland granv 
+1
2020-04-02 03:25
#139
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2020-04-02 05:03
+1
2020-04-02 05:17
#153
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Portugal hybridz 
+1
2020-04-02 05:30
#155
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Croatia gmchanger97 
+1
2020-04-02 05:33
Underrated. Not overrated
2020-04-02 06:41
stfu botv1ce fanboi
2020-04-02 16:45
+1
2020-04-02 06:47
+1
2020-04-02 07:22
#214
OKAYYY | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh 
-1, device plays smart and doesn't offer the enemies entries. he's not a star awper by any means, but he plays safe and smart and as such is rated perfectly fine
2020-04-02 09:48
#233
INS | 
Australia CLEGGY 
fanboy detected
2020-04-02 12:13
#217
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Russia Slavaa 
-1
2020-04-02 11:58
+100
2020-04-02 12:09
#232
INS | 
Australia CLEGGY 
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000
2020-04-02 12:13
+1
2020-04-02 15:27
#249
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Czech Republic Peetis 
+1
2020-04-02 16:27
everything checks out device is better than every swedish awper xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa but then again even auti is a better awper than jw. imagine needing to import a norwegian awper to carry your team of grandpas
2020-04-02 16:32
Device good but not best Jw Bestest
2020-04-03 10:16
+1
2020-04-02 16:44
#264
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Brazil IGlor9861 
I wanted to see some of these hit the front with fallen in 2016/2017.
2020-04-02 16:51
#273
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Europe rafaumarcisz 
Pathetic, Dev1ce maybe not so entertaining to watch, he doesn't need to do flicks like S1mple, he plays for the team, not for highlights. He is the most stable awper, and he never do stupid stuff like unnecessary peeking which other 'amazing' awpers do quite often
2020-04-02 17:43
#279
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Finland 0lter 
+1 ofc
2020-04-02 18:12
#313
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United States me_0_major 
dev2ce still more majors than NIP core
2020-04-03 05:39
+1
2020-04-03 08:44
+1
2020-04-03 14:59
+1
2020-04-03 15:01
-1 device best AWPer he just isnt flashy he doesnt flick but hes good af, it says it all that hes been an hltv top 5 player for 5 years now and he's on track to being in the top 5 in 2020. That is an average level of player higher than any other AWPer. Some have had higher peaks but device's consistency as a top player is unmatched SO FAR. How is that overrated?
2020-04-04 06:55
#3
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Finland SininenMF 
s1mple
2020-04-01 09:04
#15
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Other i_eat_bbq 
-1
2020-04-01 09:10
#20
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China xlands 
-2
2020-04-01 09:16
-3
2020-04-01 09:17
-4
2020-04-01 09:31
-5
2020-04-01 09:39
-6
2020-04-01 09:52
#35
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China G2_MEMESPORTS 
-6
2020-04-01 09:52
#36
ropz | 
Canada Bucket0 
-7
2020-04-01 09:55
#48
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Turkey Tempexx 
-8
2020-04-01 10:04
#305
ropz | 
Croatia KrenZZie 
-9
2020-04-02 21:30
+1
2020-04-01 10:07
#61
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Finland SininenMF 
Finally someone with actually high IQ, I have always trusted Danes
2020-04-01 10:11
#82
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Denmark LaqeuZ 
<3
2020-04-01 10:23
#88
Potti | 
Greece Ghaspar 
+1<3 =?
2020-04-01 10:26
#89
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Denmark LaqeuZ 
look again
2020-04-01 10:28
#90
Potti | 
Greece Ghaspar 
mr einstein, i got your stupid interaction. I was just asking for a joke ending but that flew over your head. cheers
2020-04-01 10:30
POG
2020-04-02 03:09
+1
2020-04-01 10:13
#68
Jame | 
Italy Laxity 
reported
2020-04-01 10:13
-9
2020-04-01 10:20
+1
2020-04-01 10:22
+111111
2020-04-01 10:43
+1 people don't understand that you can be good and overrated at the same time
2020-04-01 11:02
+9999999999999999999999999999
2020-04-01 11:04
#140
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
-100
2020-04-02 05:04
#154
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Portugal hybridz 
-100
2020-04-02 05:30
+801102023946493292629
2020-04-02 07:23
+999999999999999999999
2020-04-02 08:05
+1
2020-04-02 12:02
-10
2020-04-03 08:44
If this was a few months ago everyone would be +1ing. Similarly, in a few months or weeks everyone will be +1ing.
2020-04-03 21:39
Dev1ce and kennys
2020-04-01 09:05
not kennyS
2020-04-02 03:10
He's definitely overrated. Not even best on g2 anymore
2020-04-02 05:41
highest rated but not best
2020-04-02 12:03
He isn’t highest rated
2020-04-04 05:41
nt
2020-04-03 19:03
Hunter >>>> KennyS Any day of the week. Kenny is am the awper. He’s meant to be the high fragger and the okay maker. Hunter takes that role on g2 though. Kenny is no longer the star of his team. Flair checks out though
2020-04-04 05:42
nt
2020-04-04 06:52
+1+1
2020-04-02 07:23
+1
2020-04-02 12:03
#345
kennyS | 
France Niiju 
kennyS is the best player with the AWP of all time. Maybe not now (maybe) but his peak has never been exceeded
2020-04-03 15:27
s1mple's peak exceeded kenny's 2014 peak. s1mple's ratings speaks for itself
2020-04-04 07:02
#350
forsaken | 
France Efon 
KennyS OVERRATED +9999
2020-04-03 15:31
#5
face | 
World NukestrikE 
how is guardian overrated...? nifty was probably the most overrated awper in csgo also fallen is still overhyped for no reason at all
2020-04-01 09:05
#24
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Czech Republic Rewask 
+1, only sane answer here, Nifty was outrageously overrated
2020-04-01 09:26
+1, Jugi was also overhyped for a while
2020-04-01 11:07
#245
EliGE | 
United Kingdom Savjy 
Jugi was very good but then became very shit
2020-04-02 15:31
True Nifty ruins every team that he went
2020-04-02 06:49
#270
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Brazil beastG0D 
fallen isn't overhyped nowadays, but back in 2016/2017 he was one of the best, if not the best
2020-04-02 17:21
in 2016/2017...im talking about nowadays...
2020-04-02 19:56
#294
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Brazil beastG0D 
I know, he is not "overhyped" as you said nowadays
2020-04-02 20:30
he is...
2020-04-03 05:27
He's really not tho idk why you think he is? Don't even hear about him when talking about mibr lmao
2020-04-03 15:09
he is in like 90% of "mibr fix" lineups and in like every single "faze fix" topics...also he is rarely blamed in mibr hate topics. people usually blame taco, kng and meyern
2020-04-03 15:10
So you think that people saying he should stay on a team is overrated? Overrated is putting him in threads saying he's a top IGL/AWPer or some shit. Just saying he should stay on a team that hasn't done anything in forever doesn't mean shit.
2020-04-03 15:14
"and in like every single "faze fix" topics...also he is rarely blamed in mibr" not only bcs of he should "stay" but also bcs of this...people are actually even excisuing him a lot bcs according to them he "has to play with bots" and should go internatinal meanwhile he is probably the biggest problem in mibr for like year already
2020-04-03 15:32
IDK I get your point and that can be used to say rated higher than deserved but when people aren't praising him I don't really think that's what most people mean.
2020-04-03 15:41
Fair enough :)
2020-04-03 15:47
missclick
2020-04-03 15:30
how? i mean there are those daily 'top 5 awpers rn' threads and none of those include him
2020-04-03 15:10
#340
2020-04-03 15:30
Cerq maybe, he is good, but overrated in my opinion. He often misses easy shots and is not the best rifler.
2020-04-01 09:05
Cerq > Guardian all the time
2020-04-01 09:07
I agree on this. But this thread is about the most overrated awper not the worst awper. And guardian I feel like is not overrated anymore because everyone knows how inconsistant he is.
2020-04-01 09:10
"all the time" LMAO thats 0/8
2020-04-01 09:11
#72
Jame | 
Italy Laxity 
all the time Finals Major Cerq 0 Quardian 3
2020-04-01 10:14
who cares guardian is like 90 years old now, cerq would fuck him up any day of the week
2020-04-02 07:19
"all the time"
2020-04-02 08:12
YES, ANY DAY OF THE WEEK IS ALL THE TIME
2020-04-02 08:13
#144
2020-04-02 08:14
guardian at his peak is infinitely better than cerq at his peak
2020-04-02 05:06
No way. Botdian outdated
2020-04-02 13:28
at his peak learn to read noob
2020-04-03 08:53
#146
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
0/8
2020-04-02 05:10
+1
2020-04-02 06:46
#347
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Iceland caverat 
cerq isnt overrated tho
2020-04-03 15:29
#7
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Brazil MonkeyLover 
Kennys
2020-04-01 09:06
nt
2020-04-02 03:10
-1
2020-04-02 07:24
+9999999999999999999
2020-04-03 14:57
+1
2020-04-03 21:31
Botdian a.k.a Guardian
2020-04-01 09:06
none of the three is overrated at their peek
2020-04-01 09:07
+1
2020-04-01 10:09
+1
2020-04-02 06:50
CeRq, w0xic
2020-04-01 09:08
Both good , there are snipers more overrated than them two, just watch dev1ce or zywho
2020-04-01 10:21
woxic ? seriously ?
2020-04-03 08:51
flag checks out mens))) but for real, i really like him myself, but he's so inconsistent, that i feel like ppl tend to overrate him a lot
2020-04-03 09:37
#13
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
device
2020-04-01 09:10
kNg, autimatic
2020-04-01 09:12
#18
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Other i_eat_bbq 
Most overrated AWPer: zywh0 dev0ce CeRq kennys Botdian
2020-04-01 09:12
#49
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
s1mple
2020-04-01 10:06
#141
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
-1
2020-04-02 05:04
+1
2020-04-02 07:25
s1mple
2020-04-02 03:11
#142
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
-1
2020-04-02 05:04
++1
2020-04-02 12:04
device_4_major_wins_s0mple_0_major_wins
2020-04-02 03:30
#137
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Other i_eat_bbq 
s1mple_1_top1_dev0ce_0_top1
2020-04-02 04:53
#218
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Russia Slavaa 
Who cares about top 1 lol, 4 majors and many trophies > pathetic top 1
2020-04-02 11:59
#378
NiKo | 
Netherlands duudiGOD 
No?
2020-04-04 05:46
#387
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Russia Slavaa 
yes ofc
2020-04-04 18:06
#229
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Norway Olemannen 
dev1ce_5_top_5_in_a_row_p0mple_2_top_5_in_a_row
2020-04-02 12:10
dev1ce_1_device_s0mple_1_p1mple
2020-04-03 21:41
#19
Black | 
Hungary bet!god! 
SYRSON SMOOYA
2020-04-01 09:14
Syrson is underrated.
2020-04-01 10:10
#219
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Russia Slavaa 
+1
2020-04-02 12:00
kng
2020-04-01 09:18
yea but ur name is stupid since its dh open with tier 2-3 teams
2020-04-01 09:38
stfu
2020-04-01 09:45
#47
hacker | 
Brazil sAA_ 
small turk brain detected
2020-04-01 10:04
hahaha +1
2020-04-01 10:35
he is probably saying stfu because #30 just tried to explain an obvious joke
2020-04-03 21:43
let him enjoy
2020-04-01 10:02
Its just wrong though they lost to flipside in the grand finals of leipzig either at the very beginning on 2017 or at the end of 2016 cant remember when it took place It was their very first tournament
2020-04-02 05:51
i think he's talking abt the new one??
2020-04-02 09:39
He would need to be more specific
2020-04-02 17:12
nah, since big actually won recently
2020-04-02 17:18
He said bug/big Not big 2019
2020-04-02 18:07
jesus stfu
2020-04-02 20:04
I was right from the beginning you shouldn't have bothered
2020-04-02 21:24
you truly have autism dont you? its pretty obvious he meant the recent one since they won that.
2020-04-03 08:34
It doesnt matter what he meant if he failed to properly differentiate between the 2 of them Then his name is completely wrong Another thing he called them bug a name they havent deserved to have for years
2020-04-03 14:53
#25
taxx | 
Australia JEWFRO 
Jame
2020-04-01 09:29
Jame_is_my_flair
2020-04-02 20:32
#391
taxx | 
Australia JEWFRO 
no one cares
2020-04-22 17:32
device
2020-04-01 09:31
#32
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Russia Evil_DaviD1 
Most of the people will say dev1ce, but i will say that Jame is the most overrated AWPer. Jame is a real example of a real baiter. Dev1ce is very consistent player. Yeah, maybe he's not good like s1mple, ZywOo, maybe he's not even close to their level, but he didn't need to carry every game, because he has strong and good teammates. Each Astralis player has its own role and responsibilities in the game that they perform. And dev1ce is no exception. He does not need to play for 2,3,4 players, because his teammates are self-sufficient and can drag themselves if something happens. Dev1ce has his own role, he fulfills it and thereby makes an impact.
2020-04-01 09:49
#85
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Denmark LaqeuZ 
8/8
2020-04-01 10:24
+1 Totally agree
2020-04-02 05:19
5 years in row top5 hltv top20 players and not even close to s1mple and zywoo. mastermind here.
2020-04-02 06:30
#184
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Russia Evil_DaviD1 
ZywOo, s1mple > dev1ce atm, it's a fact. But dev1ce much more consistent player than ZywOo and s1mple.
2020-04-02 06:55
zywoo has been mediocre 2020 compared to late 19, device much better. also s1mple getting 54 kills and losing map, much impact.
2020-04-02 07:11
#40
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Australia angrychinaman 
draken?
2020-04-01 09:58
#134
draken | 
Romania Obuz8 
It said overrated not underrated
2020-04-02 03:35
#157
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Croatia gmchanger97 
If anything he is underrated
2020-04-02 05:34
#210
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Russia Evil_DaviD1 
How is he underrated? Draken since 2018 is a fucking bot.
2020-04-02 08:23
#221
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Russia Slavaa 
He isn’t
2020-04-02 12:00
#231
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Russia Evil_DaviD1 
Remember, how he played in Fnatic? Dude, he was like GuardiaN now, maybe even worse.
2020-04-02 12:13
#239
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Russia Slavaa 
i remember, he was not that bad, he could play much better but xizt was a problem
2020-04-02 15:25
he was overrated in Nip, as anyone who ever plays in Nip
2020-04-03 08:53
#281
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Croatia gmchanger97 
He is better since 2018 than before so he is way underrated now
2020-04-02 18:35
how tf can u say fallen is overrated? if u knew what he did for the brazilian scene u wouldn´t say he is overrated.
2020-04-01 09:59
nowadays he is overrated no matter what he did in the past(4 years ago)
2020-04-01 10:01
i agree with your point, but there are retards out there saying fallen was overrated in his prime. When some players say that it was harder playing against fallen in his prime than s1mple or zywoo
2020-04-01 10:04
fallen was probably the best awper and igl at the same time for almost 2 years. people who think that he was overrated in his prime are twats most likely...
2020-04-01 10:07
+1
2020-04-01 10:08
Literally 1 player but ok
2020-04-01 10:08
an Astralis player i think, but astralis are next level men
2020-04-01 10:08
If it is someone like glaive I would've agreed but dupreeh is a bot
2020-04-01 10:11
ok s1mple fan
2020-04-01 10:14
Nice flag and name
2020-04-01 10:55
thx s1mple_op
2020-04-01 10:55
ok #104
2020-04-01 10:56
s1mple best
2020-04-01 11:01
#58
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Sweden Velocityyy 
huh? My man is an IGL and still putting up great numbers and hitting sick shots with the awp
2020-04-01 10:09
first of all he is horrible and completely burned out igl nowadays and hitting shots? yea online but he is average at very best(and im pretty kind here) on lan for like 1.5 years already and im not talking only about online clown fiesta this year but also about last year
2020-04-01 10:12
#70
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Sweden Velocityyy 
he got top 4 in the last 5 majors without the last one, so 1,5 years is very harsch lmao. He has had great reads and really improved lately and you would know that if you watch them. He is one of the most important players for the team when he gets the AWP. You should watch him play before talking bs
2020-04-01 10:14
im watching him play and ruining other players since they changed lineup and picked stewie and tarik. he improved? improved what? he has the exactly same calls since 2016 and even t3 teams can read them and defeat them on lan. "He is one of the most important players for the team when he gets the AWP" online...thanks for proving my point how overrated he is nowadays
2020-04-01 10:15
#74
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Sweden Velocityyy 
"he has the exactly same calls since 2016 and even t3 teams can read them and defeat them on lan.". Had great calls on inferno yesterday, had great calls on flashpoint, anti strated furia on inferno very good. Theres a reason why MIBR is playing at their best when FalleN has an AWP on both LAn and online, your just delusional. Top 4 at the last 4 majors before the last one, and being overrated with trash calls and trash mechanical skill. Lmao
2020-04-01 10:19
"Theres a reason why MIBR is playing at their best when FalleN has an AWP on both LAn and online, your just delusional." when is the last time when they(and fallen) played their best? in 2017? we are in 2020 and mibr sucks...and fallen is the main reason behind it. antistrated furia for loss? yea please tell me more completely burned out igl, washed up awper....can perform only online
2020-04-01 10:23
#83
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Sweden Velocityyy 
"he has the exactly same calls since 2016 and even t3 teams can read them and defeat them on lan." You completly missed my point. MIBR is playing their best cs they are capable playing when fallen has his AWP. Atleast TRY to read my arguments correctly. Its not like mibr is gonna transform to 2017 SK gaming when fallen has his awp lmfao. I'll say that fallens IGL:ing isn't perfect, which is isn't, but its the best they can get. If fallen was to give over his IGL role, who would take it? Even as an IGL he is fucking great with the awp. Not a lot of people can do that
2020-04-01 10:24
literally anyone who could at least try to inovate their strat book and catch current meta would be better but fallen who is stucked in the past. ynk said that and was booted, cold rather left bcs he was sick of it and now zews was booted as well bcs they(fallen) doesnt want to make changes. and they will be stucked in t3 bcs of it. great as awper? in 2016/17...stop living in the past jesus
2020-04-01 10:26
#91
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Sweden Velocityyy 
FalleN has some great strats that he has made up recentöy. Just check out their last match against 100 theives. Winning 2-0 and a having really good reads and calls. While being at the top of the board. Mibr is leading flashpoint comfortably, so no, they aren't stuck. Cold didn't leave because he though fallen wasn't good enough. gettinng top 4 in 4 majors in a row proves that. Being top 2 in 2016 and top 6 in 2017 also proves that. If you actually watch fallen you should know that he still is a great awper, and if you say otherwise you are actually soooo biased. Just watch them play jesus
2020-04-01 10:32
stop repeating majors like a parrot over and over again. even avangar reached final in major. also 3 tournaments cant outweigh their bad performance overall last 2 years. "Being top 2 in 2016 and top 6 in 2017 also proves that." dude its 3 freaking years ago. what this has to do with anything? he suck and mibrs results and his individual performance(stats) on lan speak for itself.
2020-04-01 10:42
#118
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Bro you aren't listening holt shit. You are saying that he is trash on lan blablabla while im bringin up top 4 at 4 majors in a row. You aren't even reading dude. WATCH THEM PLAY. He is soo important for them, which he has showed soo many times. holy shit you cant even read my arguments dude
2020-04-01 22:49
you brought 4 events like 20x while i can bring like 5x+ more events where he was trash. yes, he is bad and he is dragging them down. i would bet my bank account that you are one of those who think that lg/sk had an era in 2016 bcs of 2 tournaments i rather dont even know it bcs i dont want to listen your biased nonsenses even more. this is pointless. you arguments are 4 events and in his top20 placements in 2016 and 2017 so you basicly proved my point how overrated he is nowadays. dont even bother with reply, wont read another 4x majors+to20 2016/2017 post anyway. bye
2020-04-02 03:18
#208
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Sweden Velocityyy 
"this is pointless. you arguments are 4 events and in his top20 placements in 2016 and 2017" This proves that you don't even try to read my arguments, which is pointless to argue with someone doing exactly that. No, they had an era in 2017, who tf says they had an era in already in 2016? If you watched the game yesterday, you saw that he was an important player and had some really good calls, which the casters pointed out as well. Just you leaving makes it look like i won, which i probalt did. You don't even watch them play and then talk shit about them saying nonsense. Atleast watch them play dude holy shit
2020-04-02 08:14
#42
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Ireland KarLybop 
Dev1ce is definitely the most overrated awper followed by Cerq. Top 3 AWPERS 1) S1mple 2) Zywoo 3) JW
2020-04-01 10:00
#65
tabseN | 
Germany BadBro 
+1 at the overrated ones I don't think that Zywoo is number 2 but with S1mple and JW i am fine
2020-04-01 10:12
Putting JW over Device should be a bannable offense honestly
2020-04-02 06:46
#238
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Ireland KarLybop 
Not as a player, just as awper.
2020-04-02 14:01
#220
kennyS | 
Croatia buzeG2 
zywoo in 2020 😂😂😂 JW 😂😂😂😂😂😂 s0mple 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2020-04-02 12:00
JW???
2020-04-02 20:33
#312
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United States me_0_major 
jw? 0/8
2020-04-03 05:37
Nifty
2020-04-01 10:03
who tf rates nifty in 2020
2020-04-01 10:44
not me :)
2020-04-03 21:44
#55
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Sweden Velocityyy 
dev1ce
2020-04-01 10:09
#60
tabseN | 
Germany BadBro 
Cerq
2020-04-01 10:11
#69
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Europe MaHoTei 
how tf is kennyS overrated
2020-04-01 10:13
#75
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Sweden Velocityyy 
how tf is fallen overrated
2020-04-01 10:19
#79
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Czech Republic Tr3jx_S 
Nowadays Woxic/Cerq/Jame
2020-04-01 10:21
Jame definitely, not sure about woxic. Turks definitely overrate him, but other people not really.
2020-04-03 21:44
Snatchie a year ago
2020-04-01 10:24
#92
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Brunei cyLoL 
KennyS he showed how bad he actually is against OG
2020-04-01 10:33
kennyS for sure
2020-04-01 10:35
all of them are equally bad at this game imagine abusing telescope one shot gun in one of the easiest fps games
2020-04-01 10:37
proizon
2020-04-01 10:39
JW for sure btw people who say dev1ce,s1mple,zywoo are full faceit lv 6 /mm players
2020-04-01 10:59
#110
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Germany BIGBESTEST 
+1
2020-04-01 11:00
JW and Smooya
2020-04-02 05:26
#109
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Germany BIGBESTEST 
Fallen
2020-04-01 11:00
Allu
2020-04-01 11:05
KennyScrub Shit with any other weapon, his HS aim is one of the worst in the whole scene
2020-04-01 11:10
None of those
2020-04-02 03:16
#136
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Argentina Kesus 
Draken
2020-04-02 03:39
draken is hated and underrated af
2020-04-02 05:26
Kennys
2020-04-02 05:00
#143
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
dev3ce and zywh0
2020-04-02 05:05
zywoo, dev1ce and kenny
2020-04-02 05:08
#256
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2020-04-02 16:39
wdym. kenny back in form. device one of the best awpers ever since he picked it up. zywoo amazing player.
2020-04-02 20:10
Obviusly in the csgo history is Smooya and JW
2020-04-02 05:27
#152
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Ukraine Dert38 
jdm n0ting, ladislav
2020-04-02 05:29
Gratata
2020-04-02 05:34
No one thinks he is good
2020-04-02 05:53
still overrated LUL
2020-04-02 06:02
#159
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Dev1ce, guardian, grata, cerq and depends on how you look at it but JW is pretty overrated when it comes to awping.. he will have one flashy play no scope or whatever and then it will be followed by 10 missplays and stupid easy shots which he finds the way how to screw up
2020-04-02 05:37
I think JW was overrated before when everyone remembered the insane old JW and still rated him based on that. But nowadays people don't remember that JW as much and he has definitely gotten better recently helping Fnatic reach top 5. He still has a tendency to overpeek and be too aggressive though.
2020-04-02 05:56
old jw = either luckiest player of all time or cheating. suddenly stops hitting no scopes and is garbage at the game for years.
2020-04-02 06:34
2018, 2019 0.99 and 1.01 rating as main awper ))
2020-04-02 07:14
Explain how 1.06 rating with 1.17 impact and 1.07 with 1.15 impact at LAN is garbage. Not saying he's amazing but he's a decent player that can have massive amounts of impact and he fits well in Fnatic. Also he wasn't the awper in the previous lineup in 2018/2019, he was a rifler that would sometimes be the secondary awper behind twist.
2020-04-02 08:08
can u read, i said he was garbage for years and he was for 2 years. yes he is playing decent now.
2020-04-02 16:23
ZywOo he is way better without AWP, he play main AWP role only cuz he was forced to in aAa and now same with vita,man can do magic with every weapon but is just ok with awp
2020-04-02 06:21
#192
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Other sparklight 
+1
2020-04-02 07:23
rain
2020-04-02 06:39
Overrated != washed up
2020-04-02 06:40
#175
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Brazil zzzzzzznt 
JW
2020-04-02 06:43
S1mple How people react to S1mple in a nutshell: >playing online >teammate says n word >someone else starts a vote to kick him >S1mple presses f1 >OH NO S1MPLE YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT!!!!!!! >the next day >headline reads: Exceptional Human Being and Role Model S1mple Ends Racism >Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela statues torn down and replaced with statues of S1mple >Thorin posts 2-hour youtube video arguing S1mple is the greatest human being ever >he still has no majors >the end
2020-04-02 06:57
#188
fer | 
Brazil serjolaum 
kng guardian
2020-04-02 07:19
#190
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United States Leapoz 
jame
2020-04-02 07:20
Best awper ATM s1mple ZywOo dev1ce cerq kennyS Best up and coming woxic Hallzerk naawk poizon jampii Most overrated Fallen kNg Jame GuardiaN Gratisfaction Most underrated JW Draken Broky
2020-04-02 07:28
Add syrsoN in best awper atm.
2020-04-02 07:56
cerq lol. he hasnt been any good ever since november. easily replaceable with woxic. and imagine putting guardian in overrated, then jw in underrated... guardian was a beast throughout all of csgo, hes just bad now.
2020-04-02 20:14
Definetly Woxic was better than cerq and kennys in 2019. 0/8
2020-04-02 20:34
i feel like woxic is maybe little overhyped
2020-04-02 08:02
Skadoodle was overrated af
2020-04-02 08:13
Draken
2020-04-02 08:20
#215
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Russia MeowZer 
Cerq
2020-04-02 09:50
#223
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Russia Slavaa 
woxic
2020-04-02 12:03
s1mple ofc he is excellent but not even close to his fanboys' standards.
2020-04-02 12:08
#255
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8
2020-04-02 16:38
#259
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United States RAK47 
8/8 closed
2020-04-02 16:43
true. like yeah, hes the best, but everyones acting like noone is even close to the fragging level he has.
2020-04-02 20:15
#237
woxic | 
Norway sexic 
jame lol
2020-04-02 13:35
zywho
2020-04-02 15:29
#254
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2020-04-02 16:38
jamey
2020-04-02 15:29
#244
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China KoreanFan 
draken
2020-04-02 15:30
nifty by far and he’s a snake too ska (every na fan loves him but after 2015 he dropped off a cliff until boston) jdm
2020-04-02 16:33
Device Hen1
2020-04-02 16:42
lol. no one even mentions hen1 in any debate and device is probably one of the most hated and underrated players amongst the community.
2020-04-02 20:16
flag checks out, i'm talking all time, hen1 was rimmed for years for being able to hit 1 good shot for every 30 sitters missed but yeah device fairly average, exit frags and baiting expert, only reason he gets in top players of the year is Danish site bias
2020-04-02 20:26
lol of course... exit frags and baiting. classic hltv description of a good player.
2020-04-02 20:26
0 impact player
2020-04-02 20:48
lol yeah. one of the best fraggers. gets a ton of openings with the awp. also a lot of clutches. amazing pistols. zero impact i guess... and smooya is probably fit for a top tier team, right?
2020-04-02 21:14
no I have smooya because everyone seems to cry when they see his name, at least he doesn't bait like exit fragging extraordinaire device
2020-04-03 09:04
lol. 10 iq. typical british member of cs community. actually go and watch a game. he gets opening kills with the awp. when he picks up a rifle, he goes in first or second and gets some good entries. this is not coldzera were talking about.
2020-04-03 17:56
Bias opinions boring
2020-04-03 21:27
pointless discussion.. im amazed by the fact that you can use hltv with your intelligence.
2020-04-03 21:30
kennyS? are you drunk?
2020-04-02 16:50
natosaphix
2020-04-02 16:52
kenny deffinetly not, guardian was best AWPer in 2016-2016 and fallen is still good(but not as he was) So my answer: Noone is overrated
2020-04-02 17:14
2015-2016*
2020-04-02 17:14
#274
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Europe rafaumarcisz 
Woxic 100%. One game he will make 25 kills but one day later he finishes a game with 8 kills...
2020-04-02 17:48
+1 too inconsistent
2020-04-02 18:06
damn his sens too high
2020-04-03 15:12
#276
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Romania decis1ve 
jame
2020-04-02 17:58
#282
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
tbh, someone like zywoo comes to my mind. I watch a lot of his highlights and not many of them are memorable. Prob the only one coming to mind was that 4k vs ence in banana. Whereas thinking of these awpers and s1mple, i can remember quite a list of highlights instantly. Since alex went away, it started to seem even more true as zywoo lost his gameplay that the whole team set him up, and now fell out of even top 5 this year so far...
2020-04-02 18:39
mentioning highlights... second part is legit, but making highlight plays? how is that important? theres a ton of players that have a lot of highlight plays but arent even close fraggingwise to other players that dont have as many.
2020-04-02 20:18
#303
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
highlights dont mean everything, but stats can overrated a player quite heavily tbh... highlights are the plays that saperates an individual that can play good thanks to their team from a player that can perform when backed against the wall
2020-04-02 21:27
not really. he can still frag without his team, it just doesnt look as good.
2020-04-02 21:28
#306
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
he mostly can't do it as good as other stars like s1mple or even cold imo... maybe it's his slight inexperience but he also seems to be getting countered all the time unlike s1mple. This applies to almost all awpers tho... just s1mple found unexpected things is the only one that people can't counter tbh
2020-04-02 21:39
#307
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
fixed
2020-04-02 21:39
what?
2020-04-02 21:35
#309
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
for the comment I made above that comment lol...I edited it now btw so read that
2020-04-02 21:39
Nowadays no one is talking about GuardiaN as a good player. Everyone is shitting on him. So he is not overrated atm. And if anyone says that GuardiaN, kennyS or Fallen are overrated awpers even though what they achieved throughout their careers -as every one of them had a period when they were considered as absolute world best awper- then he is stupid.
2020-04-02 20:28
#346
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Australia HighRate 
long time ago guardian had any impact.
2020-04-03 15:28
I didn't say otherwise...
2020-04-03 16:53
#298
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United States OKOptimistic 
Cerq and Fallen, Cerq ain't even the second best awper on his team
2020-04-02 20:37
Overrted by who? and where this raiting?
2020-04-03 05:34
#321
xartE | 
Finland STINDE 
kennys
2020-04-03 08:54
allu
2020-04-03 14:59
#343
xartE | 
Finland STINDE 
GOD ALLU
2020-04-03 15:20
Bot allu
2020-04-03 15:34
MSL
2020-04-03 10:38
JAMPEE
2020-04-03 10:45
#336
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Dominican Republic Numb_ 
simple
2020-04-03 15:07
Fallen
2020-04-03 15:07
#344
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Australia HighRate 
1. Zywoo 2. Device 3. Hallzerk 4. Simple 5. Kennys
2020-04-03 15:26
#354
Zeus | 
Ukraine Gigska 
Dev2-3ce
2020-04-03 15:43
JW is overrated but still a really good player. He just needs to find a bit more consistency Dev1ce is overrated but an insane player S1mple is rated just fine, skill wise with the AWP he is the best GuardiaN underrated, hes pretty much just an average awper now not garbage KennyS underrated, had a massive comeback recently ZywOo overrated, recently had a very bad period
2020-04-03 15:45
dev1ce & Jame
2020-04-03 17:54
#361
AmaNEk | 
France NTd0G 
cerq
2020-04-03 19:05
all awpers
2020-04-03 22:10
+1 real skill is about using unscoped rifles, Niko god
2020-04-04 07:06
Active: Device, CeRq, JW, kNgV and s1mple(his fanboys and some other people talk like there is no player that could catch him) Retired: Ska
2020-04-04 07:09
Sector One
3.04
FWRD
1.36
GODSENT
2.48
Spirit
1.56
FWRD
1.36
Sector One
3.04
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