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Which orgs would you say look like they were cursed? Tell us.
2020-04-01 20:03
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vp
2020-04-01 20:03
First thing that comes to my mind when I thing of a cursed org.
2020-04-01 20:04
110% agree, literally the first one
2020-04-02 03:49
#97
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
Nip?
2020-04-02 15:10
mmm nah, maybe cursed but not even close to vp
2020-04-02 18:41
Legends maybe? I don't see them as cursed
2020-04-01 20:09
They won a major, but then picked up Avangar who seemed promising and now look at them
2020-04-01 20:10
The Avangar roster isn't the real VP roster, just like Dignitas is the real NIP...
2020-04-01 20:46
#99
ANDROID | 
United Kingdom Proqy0 
theyre saying the organisation virtus pro is cursed, not the polish players you consider legends. they are not the same thing, virtus pro is not pasha taz neo byali etc, it is the organisation.
2020-04-02 15:11
#65
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Sweden Madrigals1 
They won a major in March 2014, but then they suddenly picked up Avangar in December 2019 and now they suck. Should've kept 2014 team, right?
2020-04-01 21:13
Should've just not advanced time smh.
2020-04-01 21:16
No it's the fact that after Taz left they were a shit team, which is the reason vp is cursed now
2020-04-01 21:21
#79
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Poland kruky 
+1, I fucking hate snax. Destroyed something taz and neo built for years
2020-04-01 23:53
#72
PAGO | 
Poland Kazk 
The Avangar team was shit after Blast pro Moscow It having to do with a curse on VP
2020-04-01 21:41
100T
2020-04-01 20:03
#56
jks | 
Mongolia Kkura 
They 100t org is doing great btw
2020-04-01 20:54
#3
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United Kingdom aight_dontbet 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY'S HE DONE THAT?
2020-04-01 20:04
Shit explain it............its just ringing in my head now but i cant remember
2020-04-01 20:09
#80
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Poland kruky 
henry OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO G
2020-04-01 23:53
#64
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Finland coolermannen 
WHAT A BLUNDER
2020-04-01 21:09
#6
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Czech Republic MisterPixel 
North
2020-04-01 20:05
faze choke curse 😎😎
2020-04-01 20:05
Actually sad.
2020-04-01 20:06
If Astralis managed to shake the curse, then FaZe can too.
2020-04-01 20:35
Astralis doesnt put all of their trust in individual skill like faze ))))
2020-04-01 20:55
#9
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Portugal Silvah4i20 
MIBR ofc
2020-04-01 20:07
Straight facts.
2020-04-01 20:08
#27
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Portugal Silvah4i20 
they dont won any good tornmunt since change SK for MIBR
2020-04-01 20:19
#51
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Denmark VanDeCorput 
Yeah, they were the best team in the world and now tier 3. Also if you think that Immortals is the owner of MIBR it gets even more cursed when you remember that kNG episode after they were in the major finals.
2020-04-01 20:44
And Faze too , they chokes everytime doesn't matter even if they change the roster , they will choke till they disband
2020-04-01 20:23
VP and MIBR
2020-04-01 20:08
g2 in finals any esport
2020-04-01 20:09
#30
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Canada Pipboyreaver 
Haha true
2020-04-01 20:22
ocelote is the CEO of 0-3
2020-04-01 20:47
0c3l0t3
2020-04-02 15:11
vp
2020-04-01 20:09
#16
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Brazil sakaaa 
MIBR for sure. Filled with major winners and CSGO legends, able to do great matches against top teams and on the next minute basically forgets how to play the game.
2020-04-01 20:09
Nah, they are just absolute trash now and keep making changes every 12 hours. Using the same strats every round of every map of every event. And then the delusional Brazilians appear out of nowhere to say that fallen is the best awper in the world.
2020-04-01 20:15
#33
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United Kingdom consiglieri 
i've seen fallen being an igl on his stream. He's pretty good actually. I don't know what they need rn. Probably a 3 months bootcamp?
2020-04-01 20:25
#38
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Brazil sakaaa 
Fallen is a good IGL but not as good as he is a player. The problem of being on top is that opponents tend to learn and create plays against it, thus the winners starts to lose. That's my opinion on Astralis latest form. To me the solution is to remove Fallen from IGL, and replace the gamestayle as whole, making the team unpredictable again. My opinion FalleN Fer meyern -kNg +ART igl (FURIA) -TACO +balerostyle (yes, unknown, filled with energy and probably the best aimer of the amateur BR scene)
2020-04-01 20:34
#55
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Brazil Map_Predictor 
WTF KnG is the Top fragger for mibr since he arrived And Balerostyle is not a Pro player he's a streamer who tried to play in the Brazil Championship and got kicked by a Tierless team cause he don't have discipline and is not a team player
2020-04-01 20:53
+1, you dont just take the best aimer in the world with no team skills
2020-04-01 20:57
#73
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Brazil sakaaa 
Him being the top fagger of the team (which he isn't) is not enough. If it were, Na'Vi would be the greates team of 2018, 2019 and 2020 and that's not the case. His kills means little to the rounds won, whilst even TACO's frags as low as they are means more to context. balerostyle doesn't have experience with PRO teams but on amateur championship's he's quite a winner and that requires consistent teamplay, some teams included felps to that matter. Recently they've created a team for a gamersclub cup and won while being the only amateur team on the entire championship, against pro's only. In my opinion any good player can be modeled to play within a team, given the right styles involved. If the style is the right one for that strat is a whole new topic. Also by that matter, Stewie2k, s0m and many other good players came from this exact beginning.
2020-04-01 22:10
#76
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Brazil Map_Predictor 
About KnG: hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9215/MIBR?s.. Balero can play but in pro lvl is more than just click... I Think mibr can replace TACO with other player just not balero.
2020-04-01 22:17
#77
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Brazil sakaaa 
I was considering another ranking for kNg, your's more accurate indeed, but I sustain that his kills have less impact than others like fer's. As for balero by that logic pros will be pros and amateurs will never be pros and I don't like that.. I think about him not as a ready solution but a player to be tutored throug time almost like they're doing with meyern He is only a great potential by now but 'clicking' plays a heavy role nonetheless so adjusting that with teamplay and strats might work. The solution of replacing TACO with someone can be done without balero for sure, I just think that MIBRs differential torwards other teams was always the 'crazy and unpredictable' playstyle that they're lacking right now and on my mind balero is the type of player that could change that, of course, improving other equally important aspects also. Crazy as it sounds, it would be the same result as adding XANTARES for example, not considering the language barrier of course.
2020-04-01 23:14
#78
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United Kingdom consiglieri 
well, you either become stronger under pressure or you crack. And it really depends on mental condition of MIBR rn. Another change of roster might be good idea, but since Furia playing better than MIBR they might be reluctant to lease their players. Like Forze and AVG did to Na'Vi.
2020-04-01 23:50
#81
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Brazil sakaaa 
I do agree on that. Eat or be eaten. arT going to MIBR is very unlikely just like they've (supposedly) tried KSCERATO (aka new coldzera) and got shut down with no say at all.
2020-04-01 23:55
#84
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United Kingdom consiglieri 
i am just wondering, who's sponsoring MIBR, like how long can they last without winning trophies (big events)? On the other hand there is 0 MIBR players in HLTV top20, so they have less responsibility. Because Na'Vi have two top5 players in the world and if they're not performing (in terms of winning trophies) hell crushes upon them.
2020-04-02 03:31
#95
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Brazil sakaaa 
MIBR has the biggest fan base of every team around the world and they buy MIBR brand all day long. With a strong brand you can pretty much survive by your own. That's de reason for the comeback of old orgs like OG, EG, Dignitas, FPX instead of coming out with new brands. Plus, the owner is the same of c9. MIBR has successfull teams in other games like R6. Not a single team (except for Astralis and Orgless maybe for different reasons) relies on prizepools in order to keep breathing. Think about it as a football team - their revenue comes mostly from the fans (jerseys, memberships, sponsors and others). Money is not an issue.
2020-04-02 15:09
#103
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Brazil sakaaa 
Dude, I GOT IT! +FNX should solve the problem. How could I forgot about him? Plus, there's the old saying: NO FNX, NO MAJOR! haha came back just to say this. Have a nice day
2020-04-02 19:59
The Best solution for MIBR 4 sure... IF he wanted to get back in top tiers NO FNX NO MAJOR Não tem como Estourado Esquece!
2020-04-03 13:42
Titan was one sadly
2020-04-01 20:09
didnt they have money issues
2020-04-01 20:10
#23
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Estonia qoznyyy 
yes because they lost sponsors after kqly shit
2020-04-01 20:14
fkn hell
2020-04-02 03:42
#19
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United States Jaksin 
iBUYPOWER
2020-04-01 20:10
#57
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Brazil Map_Predictor 
cursed by VALVe Let's create a team called iSELLPOWER and put the same logo with a different color?
2020-04-01 20:54
Cursed by matchfixing*
2020-04-01 20:57
#68
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Yugoslavia plsnopermaban 
nah they deserved the bad luck for not giving any salaries. thats why ibp threw, they didnt make any money.
2020-04-01 21:16
vp nip m16r
2020-04-01 20:10
#22
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North America toxicthegod 
Ence , VP and IBP
2020-04-01 20:11
#24
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
g2 losing to shit teams all the time XD
2020-04-01 20:15
xD Xd
2020-04-01 20:16
#28
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
not just cs, in literally all of their teams, they play t1 against good opponents and get rekt by t3 4 teams all the time
2020-04-01 20:19
Actually cursed.
2020-04-01 20:20
they best at throwing matches
2020-04-02 03:43
#32
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North America SLGam1ng 
fpx
2020-04-01 20:23
#34
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
I can only really think of VP and maybe TSM or GODSENT back in the day. VP because whenever a team starts playing for them they lose and whenever a player leaves the team they have decent success, or at least better than VP. GODSENT back in the day because they seemed to lose all the important matches, were called Homesent for a reason but nowadays with Maikelele's team they are performing pretty decent. TSM because they have had good players and teams but it doesn't seem to work out for some reason and they cut them and after that suddenly the teams start performing quite well. (Ofc. Astralis' success and also Misfits pretty good performance even reaching the major, also having Autimatic who went on to join C9 and win a major with them)
2020-04-01 20:26
Vp, Mibr, c9 (after major win), IBuyPower
2020-04-01 20:26
#36
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Ukraine KEBAB_REM0VER 
NaVi major shit ( 2015-2018 ) being solid , but losing at the final moments
2020-04-01 20:27
Funplus phoenix
2020-04-01 20:27
HR from 2015 to 2016
2020-04-01 20:35
#41
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Finland 0lter 
Dignitas
2020-04-01 20:36
Envy
2020-04-01 20:39
+1
2020-04-02 03:39
LDLC
2020-04-01 20:39
liquid 1.never beat astralis since june 2019 2.won igs but not katowice 3.somehow they beat tier 1 team and lose to teams like ence
2020-04-01 20:40
also ence (cursed by aleksi after major)
2020-04-01 20:40
#47
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United States IdolaMochi 
PSG LGD in Dota 2, Always unlucky
2020-04-01 20:41
titan and vp
2020-04-01 20:41
Titan Dignitas FlipSid3
2020-04-01 20:42
Ence and Vitality
2020-04-01 20:42
Old dignitas
2020-04-01 20:45
TSM, still relevant only cause fortnite
2020-04-01 21:01
#62
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Brazil Map_Predictor 
mibr (since they changed the org they only loose) ENCE (cursed by Aleksib) VP (Bury every roster they touch) TSM (They are the only team in the world who made Astralis roster looks shitty for so much time!!) iBUYPOWER (Cursed by VALVe oaskoaskaosok)
2020-04-01 21:01
+1
2020-04-01 21:19
#63
jdm64 | 
Europe Pandrlak 
x
2020-04-01 21:07
#66
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United States vikingswine 
EG
2020-04-01 21:15
liquid
2020-04-01 21:23
navi
2020-04-01 22:16
mibr coL FaZe Virtus.pro
2020-04-01 23:55
Cloud9
2020-04-02 00:08
Titan VP iBP North (?) mibr Clown9
2020-04-02 03:38
envyus
2020-04-02 03:39
Faze and Navi Both insane teams but not getting major I feel sad for niko, rain, s1mple and electronic...
2020-04-02 03:44
#93
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United States OKOptimistic 
everyone except Astralis because according to the CS law of relativity nothing makes sense everything is relative and whoever wins a map does it for not reason as there are no calculable factors in game to see if you can win
2020-04-02 03:55
#94
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Argentina Kesus 
c9 after major win
2020-04-02 04:02
#96
ropz | 
Croatia KrenZZie 
Faze
2020-04-02 15:10
#100
flusha | 
Sweden moxxy 
I only care about active orgs, and it's North and MIBR, Results/money they spend. Enough said.
2020-04-02 15:13
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