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JaCkz | 
United Kingdom SherlockOfHLTV 
I just saw a thread that was the worst list I've ever seen but it was possibly a bait. 1.) kennyS - had the 2nd best peak in Global Offensive and was a pure awper. This was around 6 months in the latter half of 2014 going into early 2015. This is the only time in all of Global Offensive that a pure AWPer and not a hybrid like s1mple was the best player in the game. The best players have always been hybrids. For example s1mple, device, and olofmeister. What he could do with the AWP was absolutely unreal and we haven't seen anything close to how good he was with the weapon due to the nerf from Valve. Valve literally nerfed the weapon because of him. That should explain itself, but his aggressive, in your face style stumped at that point, the greatest team of all time, fnatic. Even after the nerf, Kenny has made a major finale, won a major, and has 10 MVP's and is only surpassed by device and coldzera in # of MVP's. In HLTV's top 20 Kenny placed #12, #6 twice, #13, and #7. While he does't place as high in HLTV's rankings GuardiaN was never quite the best player in the world like how Kenny was. 2.) device - This is a VERY controversial pick but you can't argue with his stats and achievements. Dev1ce is the definition of consistency. He's placed top 5 in HLTV's top 20 players 5 times. That's unheard of. While only 4 of those years he was primary awping that's still unreal. He's won 4 majors (most ever), 2 major MVPs (tied for most ever), 15 total MVPs (most ever), and 20 LAN trophies. Device is a very different AWPer than Kenny because device plays smart. Smart plays win trophies. 3.) GuardiaN - GuardiaN is probably the second most consistent player after device. He's never missed an HLTV top 20 until last year and was even #2 in 2015, the highest a pure AWPer has ever gotten. GuardiaN has won 17 LAN trophies and been to 4 different Major finals. GuardiaN could be alot higher on this list. But the fact that GuardiaN never had a peak as high as Kenny's and doesn't have achievements to back him up like device, he falls to third. Honarable mentions: s1mple - best csgo player of all time fallen - 2 majors alot of trophies
2020-04-05 02:25
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2020-04-05 02:25
here's top10 imo 1.) kennyS 2.) device 3.) GuardiaN 4.) s1mple 5.) fallen 6.) JW 7.) allu 8.) skadoodle (ppl are asking about this one but people don't realize Ska averaged a 0.99 rating at big events and is VERY overrated in my opinion.) 9) oskar 10.) pasha
2020-04-05 06:51
XigN | 
Lithuania nmslC2H 
1. Destroyer 2. mitsuha 3. Skadoodle 4. autimatic 5. lan 6. WANGJ 7. poizon 8. s0mple 9. Viva 10. xccurate
2020-04-05 10:54
Even cerq is better than skadoodle.
2020-04-05 12:42
Netherlands Armipotent 
Allu? you wot
2020-04-05 12:42
United States 10YearBansRUs 
ye i agree lets completely miss cerq, woxic over fucking skadoodle oskar pasha and allu.
2020-04-05 12:56
Other g3ks1 
s1mple 4th srsly Lul and where ZyWho ? my top 1 s1mple - top1 in 2018 with awp top2 in 2019 with awp and top8 in 2017 with awp 2 dev1ce - evry year he was in top20 except one year 3 zywho - top1 in 2019 with awp and he can care his team solo 4 guardian - he was in top20 every year before 2019 and he was really good 5 fallen - best sniper in 2016 and one of the best in 2017 6 kennys - no comm 7 jw - nocomm too 8 allu 9\10 someone from new school like cerq or acor
2020-04-05 13:37
Sweden wtf_men 
newfag spotted
2020-04-14 08:44
Other g3ks1 
if i was newfag i didnt put guardian fallen and jw/
2020-04-14 08:47
Allu :D?
2020-04-05 14:29
Idk I just randomly thought of a top10 ther tbh
2020-04-13 10:18
-pasha +nijo
2020-04-13 10:13
Ignore this top10 I just randomly thought of it
2020-04-13 10:18
S1mple is perfect rifler,sniper,baiter,jermans hater
2020-04-05 02:27
2020-04-05 06:46
s1mple greatest CS:GO player ever
2020-04-05 06:51
thats what thorin would say
2020-04-05 12:52
tabseN | 
Germany BadBro 
smart man this Thorin
2020-04-05 14:29
he gained my respect when he said that hates jermens))
2020-04-05 14:31
United Arab Emirates BRAZlL 
+1 me too. I love s1mple cuz:
2020-04-05 19:17
+1 chya in khell jermons
2020-04-14 08:39
Denmark _GG_ 
+1 bump
2020-04-05 02:28
starix | 
Brazil morf_ 
2020-04-05 02:28
He's #6 on my list
2020-04-05 06:47
cool one but the other thread was about pure skill so I wouldnt put dev1ce so high...
2020-04-05 02:29
with awp not, as a hybrid hes probably the second best of all time. his rifles are the shit.
2020-04-05 02:31
yes ofc as a hybrid he's one of the best, he deserves everything but he's not a pure awper like kennys or guardian I mean he's not hitting that many flicks or interesting awp kills. Top 3 imo : 1. KennyS (Valve had to nerf awp bc of him) 2. S1mple (Cmon hes god with awp) 3. Guardian (Hes a legend, sad hes no more)
2020-04-05 02:35
i agree mens)). not such an amazing flick ability. but his shots are also kinda sexy. look at a few kills and it almost looks like he doesnt move his hand at any time.
2020-04-05 02:37
not only his shots are sexy...
2020-04-05 02:39
2020-04-05 03:54
S1mple is also a hybrid, not a pure awper, when you watch him you can tell that he hasn't been the main awper for too long He is still great with it tho, just saying that he is probably behind GuardiaN in terms of all-time AWPing
2020-04-05 06:21
device has 4 majors, tied for most major MVPs, won 20 LAN tournaments, and has the most MVPs ever.
2020-04-05 06:52
Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh 
+1 agreed, anyone who put p1mple on #1 is delusional or newfag
2020-04-05 02:31
Europe ipufosenia 
-device +smooya
2020-04-05 02:31
yes. so many people overlook the true GOAT. not s1mple, smooya. +1
2020-04-05 02:33
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2020-04-05 02:34
Smooya is true garbage.
2020-04-05 12:41
Europe ipufosenia 
whaaaaaaaaaat???? Noooooo...thats crazy
2020-04-05 13:32
The only real options
2020-04-05 02:32
+1 if u put s1mple top 1 alltime you are definitely newfag
2020-04-05 02:34
Fan of 3covic3
2020-04-13 10:31
“fan of mOE” your opinion is already invalidated
2020-04-13 16:46
Sweden Zeepter 
CSGO: 1. CarryS 2. GuardiaN 3. device ALL time: 1. Walle 2. Delp4N 3. Markeloff
2020-04-05 02:35
I would put markeloff #1 then 1.markeloff 2.walle 3.sunde
2020-04-05 02:37
markeloff top1
2020-04-05 06:46
Sweden Zeepter 
Walle is the godfather of awping agressive and moving around w the awp, so no he´s numba 1 Then if you compare Delp4N vs Markeloff in 1.6 = Delp4n was the best awper in 1.6
2020-04-05 14:14
I didn't see cs at those times, but why no one said about coqu?
2020-04-05 14:34
+1 for go - 1 for 1.6 1. Marik 2. Walle 3. Delpan
2020-04-05 17:43
Dominican Republic Numb_ 
kennys jw guardian
2020-04-05 02:36
Europe NiKoGOD4ever 
I would swap GuardiaN and device because Guardian was a beast during his peek and device is the most consistent awper
2020-04-05 02:37
Brazil Douplesxx 
FalleN instead of Device
2020-04-05 02:37
Well, "Best AWPer" is quite subjective tbh (Talking about each one's prime). - Best player as main awp - S1mple (Knows how to play with any weapon + amazing with AWP) - Best player when using the awp - KennyS (Highest peak with AWP, overwhelming even top1 teams in 2015, but too inconsistent every year) - Best AWPer to effectively improve a team - Fallen (Best awper and IGL in 2016) - Most reliable AWPers in a team- Device or Guardian (Both with great consistency and positioning, not depending too much on pure skill)
2020-04-05 02:56
Best awper to join a team is overwhelmingly s1mple. s1mple is the best csgo player ever of course you want simple over everyone
2020-04-05 04:36
Maybe you're right, we can't know for sure. Here are some points that put some doubt in that. - S1mple joining NaVi didn't improve the team. In fact they got into a slump for more than a year after that. - If you watch his games paying close attention, you'll see that he actually lower his teammates rating. He gets drops even on the pistol round (kevlar + p250 on almost every T pistol round) sacrificing one teammate. This teammate also have to buy grenades to assist S1mple. - S1mple gets way more drops than any other player in any team. The buy is basically focused on him, sacrificing teammates. - S1mple always trades the kill by baiting a teammate. Of course, it would be stupid to let the best player in the team be the entry, but Zywoo also got a very high rating last year and he is the entry as T when he is not using the awp. In short, yes, he is a good player, but as he plays today he sacrifices his teammates performance and also improves his rating by anti-eco rushing, just like Fer. I don't know how much of a team player he really is.
2020-04-05 05:54
The reason NaVi had a large slump for a year was due to the coaching rule and lack of a leader in that NaVi. When NaVi first added s1mple they removed Zeus. Zeus wasn't calling for NaVi it was actually starix calling as the coach. NaVi removed Zeus because he's a really bad fragger and they had an in-game leader in starix. So they removed Zeus. The first tier 1 tournament NaVi played, ESL One New York 2016, they won the tournament. That was when starix could call. After that, Valve created a rule that coaches could only talk during timeouts and halftime. After Zeus left, seized became the captain and after the coaching rule, the IGL role fell on him. Seized was a TERRIBLE in game leader from 2016 - late 2017. After NaVi got back Zeus, they won their first tournament Dreamhack Open Winter 2017, then they won Cologne, star series, and CAC and has broke all the kill records, rating records, and clutch records. There's nothing to stat wise to back up your second and third points, Don't call s1mple a baiter, he has the highest opening kill success rate and is only .1 away from the highest opening kill rating at big events all time at 61.6%. Any stats to back up that he's an "eco fragger." s1mple is the best player to touch CS:GO, you're in denial.
2020-04-05 06:42
No hate man. Just watch his games. You don’t need stats to see the first round and see if Simple is getting a p250 and kevlar. Well, Fallen was also one with best pr second best opening kills in 2016. It’s normal when you’re an awper. “Don’t call him a baiter”. When I have the time I’ll show you how he is always waiting for a teammate so he can trade kill. You need a good aimer with good game sense so you guarantee the trade kill, but when a player is always the one that takes the trade it makes him a baiter. About eco fragging is also the same thing. Watch the games.
2020-04-05 08:29
If it's so easy to play like s1mple, why doesn't everyone just copy him? It's because no one else can. No one else can get 80 frags in 2 maps, no one else can average a 1.33 rating on lan against the best teams in the world consistently. s1mple also has the highest rating on LAN of all time at 1.24. That's .07 higher than the next on the list, device at 1.17. If s1mple is not the best ever, than who is?
2020-04-05 09:02
I never said it's easy and a repeatedly said he is a good player. "why doesn't everyone just copy him?" Because his team is the only one who dedicates everything to a single player. It used to be like this with KennyS in his prime, but after that there wasn't a team doing the same thing. "It's because no one else can." We just saw KennyS getting almost 3.0 rating this year. Last year we saw Zywoo also doing the same. KennyS in 2015 repeatedly got over 2.0 rating against the top 5 teams at the time. Coldzera in 2016 and 17 also got over 2.0 rating repeatedly against top 5 teams. Among these players, only KennyS had a moment with the team focusing every buy. Is he the best player of all time skill-wise? Probably yes, I never said he isn't. Does it exempt him from being an eco-fragger, getting the team buy everything focused on him, and baiting his teammates? Nope, he does all that.
2020-04-05 17:15
I think i can agree with that, good thread :)
2020-04-05 02:57
honorable mentions add skadoodle and jw
2020-04-05 05:58
Ska's average rating at big events is .99. Sorry mate but I can't justify him being up here.
2020-04-05 06:44
Skadoodle XDD omegalul
2020-04-05 12:40
Virus | 
India CometZ 
-guardian +fallen He is still consistent.
2020-04-05 06:04
Australia opzy 
fallen's peak was pretty amazing too, but that's considering the fact that he was also IGLing and #2 in 2016. Pure awper, yeah he probably isn't top 3
2020-04-05 06:16
Fallen wasn't as good as these 3, he's 5 for me with s1mple at 4
2020-04-05 06:44
To not have Skadoodle even at least in the mentions is a crime. He had a flick like no other AWPer not even Simple. Yeah his numbers weren't always the greatest but his ceiling was arguably the best if not the second best in the world.
2020-04-05 06:17
Sorry that's a joke. Skadoodle averaged a 0.99 negative rating at big events throughout his career and rarely performed outside of NA.
2020-04-05 06:45
"Yeah his numbers weren't always the greatest but his ceiling was arguably the best if not the second best in the world."
2020-04-05 10:43
Europe MaHoTei 
xd whats good to have a fucking ceiling if you cant even reach the top, its like saying im better than you with nothing to show
2020-04-05 11:25
He is nowhere near a honorable mention,especially of all time,he was good in 2014 and 2015 but otherwise he was dragging his team down.
2020-04-05 11:25
Skadoodle XD wtf. Not even thebest NA AWPer.
2020-04-05 12:40
Potti | 
Greece Ghaspar 
the fact that you love thorin and not any actual player shows how much you know about the game and how much about the organization. you have invested your own nostalgia onto Thorin's words. Nothing authentic here...
2020-04-05 06:18
haha my favorite player is jackz if you really want to know
2020-04-05 06:45
Potti | 
Greece Ghaspar 
noone "really wants to know", but you just have an option there just like everyone else. The rest speaks for itself. I like Potti if you want to know. :)
2020-04-05 06:48
ayee a 1.6er im a very big walle fan
2020-04-05 06:53
Potti | 
Greece Ghaspar 
walle and zet were monsters. Can you compare the level of adrenaline in watching skilled players back then with the one now? For me it's incomparable. I don't know how to express it but since big orgs have gotten in the game , cs has been greater in tournaments and organising , but has also distanced itself with the "cosmos" of the game. Meaning that, the eras now have been unromantisized due to external factors (irrelevant companies).
2020-04-05 07:06
1.kennyS 2. Guardian 3. Fallen 999. Device
2020-04-05 06:21
Good list. I like the thought you put into this.
2020-04-05 06:25
Brazil zzzzzzznt 
2020-04-05 06:27
Japan esy 
ChrisJ OnlineJ ChrisJ
2020-04-05 06:49
fer | 
Brazil GodSnow 
KennyS Fallen Guardian
2020-04-05 08:32
United States hoobit 
2020-04-05 09:04
1. KennyS??? Hyped up kid He hasn't done 1/10 of what device has done
2020-04-05 09:06
Started watching csgo in 2019 LUL
2020-04-05 10:47
*Made this hltv account in 2019 But expected iq from paki
2020-04-05 11:13
Expected from a dane People have multiple account on this site kiddo.
2020-04-05 11:15
Device is nothingcompared to Kenny. Device just has 4 baiting teammates so he can up his stats.
2020-04-05 12:39
Nice list
2020-04-05 10:48
It wasnt about peak really , when kennyS played for Envyus and GuardiaN played for Na'Vi in 2015 both played different styles of AWPing .
2020-04-05 10:59
juliano | 
Estonia Eluee 
the one and only "sexpower"
2020-04-05 11:19
There is no way device is higher than Guardian
2020-04-05 11:21
4 majors mens)) 2 mvps and 15 total mvps
2020-04-05 20:18
1. kennyS; 2. GuardiaN; 3. FalleN that would be my order
2020-04-05 11:21
guardian xaxaxa nice b8
2020-04-05 12:38
1. KennyS 2. JW 3. Fifflaren
2020-04-05 12:38
Nast1a | 
World bayborg 
Where is Allu, deadfox, nifty and msl
2020-04-05 14:19
Czech Republic Carlosss 
1. Guccilele 1.5 Zeolik 2. Carlosss 3. Aidden rest is irelevant, HLTV kings esports to be at both 2021 majors
2020-04-05 14:27
2020-04-05 14:22
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Should have told them that we will win them both? I didnt want to spoil too much.
2020-04-05 14:23
2020-04-05 14:23
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Name checks out, retart
2020-04-05 14:24
You can't even spell your real fake name correctly
2020-04-05 14:26
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Atleast Im not calling 30 minutes as "Hours ago"
2020-04-05 14:29
No, but you do all sorts of misusages of common terms
2020-04-05 14:30
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Im Carlosss, I can do whatever I want and I wont get banned.
2020-04-05 14:31
Says the guy with multiple 10 yeared accounts 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
2020-04-05 14:34
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Prove it 8-)
2020-04-05 14:35
I ain't no snitch
2020-04-05 14:37
Czech Republic Carlosss 
I know, youre my brother <3
2020-04-05 14:38
Brunei BruneiMen 
Excuse me?
2020-04-05 14:24
Carlos is on the list, so I did 0/8
2020-04-05 14:25
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Hahaha, jealous IGL
2020-04-05 14:27
jealous of what? I frag higher than you while having to micro manage you
2020-04-05 14:27
Czech Republic Carlosss 
Kek, more points maybe :Weirdchamp:
2020-04-05 14:28
And you are bragging about getting the most kills while abusing the best gun in the game lmao
2020-04-05 14:29
Reunion 1iquser 
1. my friend FRKI 2, me i got an ace with an awp once 3. my friend S4LE
2020-04-05 14:25
" the highest a pure AWPer has ever gotten." incorrect, Zywoo #1 - 2019
2020-04-05 14:29
zywoo hacker
2020-04-05 14:31
your point?
2020-04-05 17:38
ZywOo is a hybrid player he just awps due to a lack of awper im vitality.
2020-04-05 20:19
ZywOo wasn’t a main awper before vitality. He only Picked up the role bc vitality had none.
2020-04-13 10:20
So? He was a main awper in 2019 when he got ranked number 1, that's all I'm saying
2020-04-13 10:35
ZywOo is a hybrid player is what I’m saying, not a pure awper.
2020-04-14 00:17
Has nothing to do with my comment then, he was pure awp in 2019 when he was ranked #1
2020-04-14 08:36
Brazil Urie 
1. KennyS was so good they had to change the AWP. 2. Prime Fallen was the closest to KennyS skill-wise imho. 3. Guardian most probably, though I could make a point for s1mple if he performs well this year. Honorable mention to Dev1ce, the most successful AWPer of all time, but I don't really think he could compare to those beasts when it comes to pure raw skill.
2020-04-05 14:34
shox | 
India iejesus 
+1 device is the one of the greatest to play but not top 3 imo. Collectively he has won everything. Peak wise no
2020-04-05 17:40
Venezuela Jorge_ 
Who had the 1st best peak in CS, Coldzera right?
2020-04-05 15:03
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Venezuela Jorge_ 
2020-04-05 15:17
shox | 
India iejesus 
2020-04-05 17:39
Brazil millerjmatos 
big 3: GuardiaN, FalleN, kennyS
2020-04-05 19:15
fifflaren only true #1
2020-04-05 19:23
1. Mixwell 2. Eastor 3. Sunpayus 4.KennyS 5.S1mple :))))
2020-04-05 19:47
frick I think I got the wrong list my bad
2020-04-05 20:19
Where ares manttuu??
2020-04-13 10:15
France s2ptik 
kennys is the best at awp ....
2020-04-13 10:22
Georgia Megobari 
1. KennyS/GuardiaN 2. Others
2020-04-14 08:45
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