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Why does everything in CS take skill apart from pistol rounds???
United Kingdom p0mpouS 
This is 90% of pistol rounds. 1 CT hold and angle while 5 T's come flying out, jumping, ADAD'ing and spamming as many shots as they can without really aiming just hoping for the RNG headshot. T side just plays to not get hit like in the second pistol rounds between Fnatic and Astralis, Glaive jumps around the corner so hes too hard to hit then the other 4 just spam Brollan down while moving, this isnt skilled play, this meant to be a skill based game and pistol rounds are just pure RNG.
2020-04-06 15:18
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stfu valorant(ex fortnite) player nub . csgo is team play game only team can win nub stupid bish
2020-04-06 15:19
No, in pistols rounds only the team that ADAD faster and jump the most will win.
2020-04-06 15:19
nah ur aim will go to the moon if u ADAD fast and jump. nub learn the game . not to cry i fk ur mom every night
2020-04-06 15:22
Not with the Glock it wont, also you dont need to hit them, you just need to get close and overwhelm them with any shots you can, i see it all the time.
2020-04-06 15:23
well any shitty pistol is op when u get close. is this brexit brain -1iq?
2020-04-06 15:26
Its not about it being op, its about it being unskilled.
2020-04-06 15:26
ur just bad dont blame and say its unskilled nub
2020-04-06 15:28
Im not bad, i abuse the play styles required for pistols as much as you can but its not a skilled way to play so it should be changed since this meant to be a skill based game.
2020-04-06 15:31
it is skiled. ur just angry and mad that u can kill with pistols. just git gud
2020-04-06 15:32
How is it skilled???? As T you play to not get hit and hope you get those RNG HS while moving and spamming. On CT you try and hit shots on players moving in erratic patterns with a gun that really isnt that accurate.
2020-04-06 15:35
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2020-04-06 15:34
No, thats not an answer.
2020-04-06 15:35
Correct. it is a fact much better than an answer
2020-04-06 15:36
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Lithuania KingOfPing 
this is tactics usp is more powerfull in range than glock so 1v1 duel with glock u still lose in pistol rounds to usp.
2020-04-06 15:20
The issue is the USP still isnt accurate enough and the fact is no human can consistently hit shots on players move that erratically, even the best aimers in the world cant, you see them whiff entire mags all the time, even the likes of device, Niko, Zywoo and s1mple whiff with pistols all the time. The style of play the USP asks for requires skill but the USP isnt good enough to do it, its not accurate enough, the glock asks you to play in the most unskilled was possible and basically gamble, you run, you move as erratically as you can and you spam and hope you get the RNG headshots. Wheres the skill in this.
2020-04-06 15:23
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Lithuania KingOfPing 
usp is more accurte and powerfull than glock so CT can not spam but hitting 1 bullet hs from range while with glock u have to hit 2 in head to kill. Thats why 1st player always try to bait ct and others spaming. Just run with glock to 1v1 on ct holding angle with usp u die first from 1 bullet hs even if u hit first to his head and do about 80 damage.
2020-04-06 15:28
Yeah it is, but its not accurate enough, then you add the fact that even with the USP you can be fairly accurate while moving, why would you stand still??? If you stand still and dont hit the HS right away, something that even the best fail to do very often you are screwed, you will be rushed down and spammed by 5 people.
2020-04-06 15:33
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Lithuania KingOfPing 
i still dont understand what u want from this topic? U ask why teams do that in pistol rounds and now youreslf answering to your question why :D
2020-04-06 15:36
No, i know why, its the most effective way to play, its exploiting what the game gives you, the issue is that in a skill based games the pistol rounds are so out of place.
2020-04-06 15:51
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Greenland brutusfistus 
and the best pistol teams in the world only manage barely 60% pistol winrate. their pure coinflip
2020-04-06 15:21
Yeah the best teams in the world will lose the pistol round, the next 2 rounds then win the half like 10-5.
2020-04-06 15:24
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
how would u fix it then
2020-04-06 15:27
Easy, reduce running accuracy to rifle levels, increase standing accuracy, this means you run and spam you will hit nothing, you must stop and shoot, you must time your shots with your movement and use actually skilled movement and aim.
2020-04-06 15:28
+1
2020-04-06 18:59
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Poland friendlySeb 
Maybe it is, but this game wouldn't be the same without pistol rounds.
2020-04-06 15:28
Sure, it wouldnt be the same, it would be better, imagine, if the first round had actually untility use, rifles or smg's, more varied approached and wait for it, people aiming.
2020-04-06 15:30
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Poland friendlySeb 
No, it wouldn't be better. It would be breaking of classic CS. In every version of CS there were pistol rounds, and it was working. In every round there could be luck, even in full buy, you won't change that.
2020-04-06 15:32
But the amount of luck in the pistol round is insane.
2020-04-06 15:33
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Poland friendlySeb 
My proposition would be giving 900$ at the start of the game, so ppl could buy more utility. That's the only thing i would do. You can't get those rounds out of the game.
2020-04-06 15:36
No because the gun play is unskilled.
2020-04-06 15:51
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Poland friendlySeb 
So give the T-side USP or P2000. So they won't spam with the glocks.
2020-04-06 15:53
No, makes all guns have awful accuracy while running.
2020-04-06 16:59
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Poland friendlySeb 
I don't know what you want from this game then. Do you really think that removing pistol rounds would make this game better? Don't think much ppl will agree with you.
2020-04-06 17:10
It could do, for instance if you made the first round more consistent and less random you would get less BS runs in events so we wouldnt see so many finals ruined by teams makes lucky runs, wed also see interesting rounds, pistols rounds are by far the least interesting.
2020-04-06 18:59
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Poland friendlySeb 
Fluke - The word i love the most. You really think that seeing less upsets and less individual plays would make this game better and more enjoyable? I don't think so.
2020-04-06 19:06
No, we will see the same amount of plays but they will take real skill since skilled players would be able to demonstrate their skill without having 5 players spamming bullets while ADAD spamming and jumping. Upsets arent really upsets if they happen all the time, its just the game being poorly balanced or having shallow gameplay that anyone can exploit.
2020-04-06 19:10
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Poland friendlySeb 
Upsets don't happen everytime, wtf are you even talking about?And you are talking that CS:GO is poorly balanced? It's very well balanced, 90% of other games, are much worse balanced than CS.
2020-04-06 23:45
they already do, making them less accurate would only make it more random which wont solve your problem what would solve your problem is giving all weapons 100% running accuracy then we can see who is the best at playing cod4 (me)
2020-04-08 09:39
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Poland Feym 
Yea that's the beauty of single fire weapons. You can run around and hope the enemy misses. It's called movement not RNG
2020-04-06 15:54
No its RNG since the weapons are so inaccurate.
2020-04-06 16:39
they are about as accurate as the AK47. 22m accurate range vs 20.5 for usp please stop spreading bullshit. it has nothing to doe with the weapons being pistols. the actual problem is that almost every gun in cs is a random shitshow.
2020-04-08 09:38
You should ignore those BS stat cards and look at how they behave in game, the other issue is hardly anyone taps rifles as spraying and bursting are far better and more reliable.
2020-04-08 16:18
im not referring to stat cards, im referring to the values that are coded in the game. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11tDzUNBq..
2020-04-08 16:44
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
I always get braindead dry-peek run gun jumpshotted by Silvers with Glock but then i fuck them deep and hard rest of game.
2020-04-06 16:41
buy cz on pistol
2020-04-08 16:45
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Europe rust1c 
+1 bring back 1.6 pistols
2020-04-06 17:02
Pistols used to be skill based and then people cried that they were op so valve destroyed them. Thanks cry babies.
2020-04-06 17:26
Look at that shit, a bot like Aleksi just running all over the place and one of the best aimers in the world whiffs an entire mags trying to hit him then gets spammed down, then s1mple cant land anything, the best player in the world cant land a shot, BROKEN.
2020-04-06 18:57
or your "best aimer in the world" is actually just a bot in that 1 round. but thats not possible right for the guy you fangay over to do anything wrong idiota
2020-04-08 09:36
Same shit again, world class players missing sitters due to these guns and the fact you can run around and still hit RNG HS.
2020-04-06 19:35
rain #1 pistol player
2020-04-06 19:35
pistol round is meant to be random. its always be like that since 1.6
2020-04-06 20:13
No, they are poorly designed, they arent meant to be random, a skill based game is not meant to be a coin flip.
2020-04-06 20:30
some randomness is what makes this games more appealing
2020-04-06 20:41
No it isnt, what makes this game appealing is its skill ceiling, randomness only detracts from this game, the more skill based the game becomes the better this game will be. By adding randomness you lower the skill ceiling, making the game worse.
2020-04-06 20:45
Another pistol round, more ADAD and spewing bullets like there no tomorrow in the hope of a HS.
2020-04-06 20:46
AK47 accurate range stand 22m USP-S accurate range stand 20.59m pistol round is not significantly more random than any gun round with AKs /close.
2020-04-08 09:35
You are asuming that people fire one shot at a time only with the AK. As usual you show how moronic you are also you cant run and hit HS with the AK like you can with a pistol. You have to be the dumbest member of HLTV.
2020-04-08 16:19
so what else can you offer? Giving 16k for everyone in the start of the match?
2020-04-08 09:38
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