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Navi doesn't deserve to win
s1mple | 
Ukraine n1mutant 
with players like Flamie at least how he is performing 1 kill on CT side I don't think they should win and go ahead! and I am a Navi Fan ... its just horrible!!
2020-04-09 20:31
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s1mple and electronic is carrying so hard But s1mple is baiting tho.
2020-04-09 20:32
fuck with your baiting shit!!! WHAT BAIT? if your teamate has 0 kills in 14 rounds fuck bait kill him yourself!!! it will be better at least CT side won't get money for it (tilted after the lost but you are still a cunt)
2020-04-09 20:54
not just about this game he is always baiting but he is still good.
2020-04-09 20:56
idk if you are another troll... you can't say he is till good in the same sentence with baiting! s1mple is just great and if you can't get that through your head you are just another hater! sorry but shit tons of pros consider him to be the best ever there is ... not my opinion only
2020-04-09 21:09
he is good, but he is baiting sometimes?
2020-04-09 21:16
s1mple is very skilled yes, but he abuses his teammates and baits them alot.
2020-04-09 21:17
can you prove this with any stats or videos? or is it just your expert opinion based on being on HLTV? cause casters, analysts, other top tier pros consider him to be the best ever! so you are some how a better analyst and expert on CS scene than them? please enlighten us with your greatness my lord - or fuck off!!
2020-04-09 21:22
Casters and analysts are too afraid to address his baiting. The free people of HLTV dares to speak their mind. But for real, when soooo many people says that s1mple is baiting, why do u keep defending him loool. s1mple fanboys are the worst.
2020-04-09 21:24
dares to speak their mind? what the actual shit? do you think the CSGO scene is some under Nazi occupation! what about other pros? why do they consider him to be the best ever? you are a better analyst than the players who actually play against him? so you want me to listen to HLTV trolls over professionals? really you are for fucking real?
2020-04-09 21:28
Total EPL event statistics: 4 players of Na'vi average deaths -> 457 S1mple deaths: 420 He has nearly 40 deaths less than the team average, in just ONE event. He has the highest stat in the team for trade fragging (aka killing an enemy who killed your teammate). He has the lowest stat in the team for (saved by teammate) aka nobody has the chance to save him, because he's never the bombsite entry. Stats for ya ass.
2020-04-09 21:31
first no links .. you have just typed that... second entry frag is elecs job on Navi and played by boom on CT side as well! is it bad to trade? or be the last player to be alive as an awpER? or you just consider these to be specific to only s1mple stats? have you checked others like James, kenny or device that are currently playing the same role?
2020-04-09 21:36
go look for yourself on the event page cool, so u admit s1mple is a baiter now, nice.
2020-04-09 21:36
you have trouble reading buddy! lets take sometime to go back to school
2020-04-09 21:38
' is it bad to trade? or be the last player to be alive as an awpER?' u said yourself, s1mples role is to be last alive, ye he baits his teammates glad u agree with me
2020-04-09 21:38
fuck dude :P hahaha where in that sentence/statement there written anything to do with bait? and you still didn't share the link where you came up with those numbers you just simply wrote them there
2020-04-09 21:41
#43
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Albania turboleifern2 
Ah yes, the free people of hltv with 0 game knowledge, max lem rank in MM and level 3-4 on faceit. Seems legit
2020-04-09 21:30
+1
2020-04-09 21:32
#74
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Australia HighRate 
Everyone can see that he baits. He waits until his opponents are busy firing at his teammates all games long. You really dont see how he baits all the time?
2020-04-09 22:05
now you moved from betting part to baiting!!! :P you are just a troll and no rational or logical response is worth typing
2020-04-09 22:06
#2
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
check flair
2020-04-09 20:33
what fucking flair!!! did you like that 2-0 with fucking bots on the team?? Flamie sucks!! Boom is so arrogant and doesn't play his role as an IGL instead wants flash on the banana!!! perfecto is a tier 2 player!!! Navi is not fucking broke they could have paid for "FL1T" but they choose this whoever the fuck but still Perfecto is playing bad positions and so on doesn't deserves to be on Navi team!! they could have promoted juniors (m0NESY or Aunkere) from Navi would still be better and cheap ... but you are dumb so I don't know if this even makes sense to you
2020-04-09 20:52
#12
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
flamie avg player, in this match he played bad, yes, unluck boomich is good igl(top 5 for sure) and he can kill perfecto best clutcher and very good support player Navi couldn`t but FL1T cuz 1.5kk $
2020-04-09 20:55
#17
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India _Jazz_ 
glaive karrigan nexa golden aleksib No, he's not top 5 IGLs imo Edit: I forgot Alex
2020-04-09 21:01
#79
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
lol, aliksiB, golden, karrigan and alex are bad igl
2020-04-10 00:08
Calling golden and karrigan bad igls is just nonsense
2020-04-10 00:23
#89
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
lol look at their kd
2020-04-10 00:27
#91
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India _Jazz_ 
Wow... U really think kd determines how an igl is? That way NiKo is the best IGL, isn't he? boombl4 has a good peak, but he is very inconsistent. Once he get multi kills, he becomes over aggressive and over confident. That costs NaVi rounds which is the biggest reason he is not a good leader imo. His strats are very decent. Good on CT sides, horrible on T. Look at any other IGLs I mentioned, they have good T sides too.
2020-04-10 10:06
#93
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
good igl = good stats, strategy and character of leader aliksiB, golden, karrigan dont have good aim skill Alex isn't good cap boomich is avg player and avg cap
2020-04-10 16:17
#94
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India _Jazz_ 
Yes, those r the traits. aleksib, karrigan, golden and aleksib: all of these took there teams to top 2 at some point. So it means they r good leaders nd have good strats. Look at their team. fnatic has all decent players. No top 10 players in their team. Still look at them. aleksib took his meme team to major finals. aerial, xseven, etc. Look at them now. karrigan, bad fragger but has good impact on some maps, still his team is strong. Imo, NaVi will never be a top 2 team until they have atleast 3-4 players performing consistently. All other teams I meantioned have those.
2020-04-11 07:30
#95
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
That was Ence fluke Navi top 1 rn If karrigan bad fragger and good impact why perfecto isn't good support?
2020-04-11 12:49
#96
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India _Jazz_ 
Loses easy duels, inconsistent
2020-04-11 14:09
#92
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
I lol'd here
2020-04-10 10:11
#90
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India _Jazz_ 
Alex is under rated. His strats are really good. Aleksib took his team to major final. His strats are good too. Golden and karrigan are good too. golden is a decent fragger while leading well too. karrigan is a great igl, not that good when it comes to fragging, but many times he gets impactful frags and is good at certain maps.
2020-04-10 10:04
it was 1 million $ for a top tier player in the role Navi needed.. they have s1mple for clutch already! Faze paid Coldzera 1 mil$ a washed up player Navi should have done the same! they will lose Top 1 in no time with such a fucked up performances! Flamie is inconsistent and therefore unreliable, he didn't show up for such an important game! fucking 1 kill in 15 rounds... and that was the last round jeez!!
2020-04-09 21:01
boomich is good igl(top 5 for sure) LUL 0/8 gla1ve karrigan golden aleksib n1tro even niko>boomich
2020-04-09 21:19
yeah boom is good but jeez he wants to frag!! I mean common just play the IGL role its sooo god damn important
2020-04-09 21:39
#80
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
karrigan golden aleksib n1tro niko ahaha
2020-04-10 00:08
#24
JW | 
Russia Trueteller 
Check Frankie without make-up
2020-04-09 21:11
flamie was washed up in 2014
2020-04-09 20:33
s1mple deserves
2020-04-09 20:33
Agreed
2020-04-09 20:34
#7
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France StickyRice 
They should have lost in first round robin phase but forZe threw so badly :(
2020-04-09 20:34
s1mple deserves tho, and electronic, fuck these bots flamie and perfecto, idiot ruiners
2020-04-09 20:36
I am sad for that poor bastards!!! amazing players stuck with this crap day and day out!
2020-04-09 20:58
+1 Simple and electronic cant carry them everytime
2020-04-09 21:01
+1
2020-04-09 21:15
To quote Sadokist: "Oh Na'Vi bye bye!"
2020-04-09 20:38
wasnt it oh guardian bye bye
2020-04-09 21:28
If I put GuardiaN there it wouldnt make sense so I changed it to Na'Vi
2020-04-09 21:30
haha nice
2020-04-09 21:31
Agree , today im not even uspet they deserved 100^
2020-04-09 20:57
#16
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Finland Emvi 
mouz doenst desereve to go through either after going 4-32, at least that astralis fnatic final should be really good
2020-04-09 20:58
yeah Karegan or whatever is shit but those two kids Ropz and Frozen play out of their minds!! you have to admit when Astralis beat you in CSGO you have to just go back and fix your shit ... no complains and I hate mouz but I understand its Astralis
2020-04-09 21:04
I can't believe OG choked to this.
2020-04-09 21:01
#21
FalleN | 
Brazil dor1a 
yeah SO inconsistent players being carried hard by s1mple and electronic also, it's very unfair that MOUZ is advancing after losing by 32-4.. f*ck NaVi
2020-04-09 21:02
to be honest elec also had 1 kill on ct Nuke. something just went wrong with NaVi and Mouz today
2020-04-09 21:12
you are right... he got outplayed by Brollan but thats just a single map side! no excuses I am not a pro but I think he had to go aggressive to get any advantage and he couldn't and probably Brollan had his number (studied demos of how he played outside) shit happens you can't compare this to the entire tournament of s1mple and elec carrying 3 dead bots! to 2 stage too and probably semis (which they didn't deserve with such a showing)
2020-04-09 21:18
Actually there was a row of rounds with Fnatic staying at under 20 hp. can we count it as luck? i don't know. it feels like something went wrong with the team. maybe exhaustin schedule, a burnout or sth else. sad to watch either way(
2020-04-09 21:20
yeah that was the case in a few rounds! i think more like bad CT side weapons to win the duels! but they really tilted on t side of inferno also ... just got outplayed today and only elec showed up to somehow help s1mple per usual the rest after first site of inferno just slept through .... and at some point even s1mple just gave up he was spinning around with 2-5 and haven't even seen any enemy players on CT side it was painful to watch
2020-04-09 21:30
T-side on inferno was something out of this world.... why don't you change your tactic at least 1-2 times when your approach is clearly not working? mystery. ten rounds lost in the same manner... Looks like tilt really
2020-04-09 21:35
+1 honestly I am so sad for Navi they played sooo amazing on LAN and then this shit show of from all except s1mple and elec
2020-04-09 21:47
Still, they are showing a lot more consistency than last year so Clearly we're on the right track.
2020-04-09 21:52
I really hope they can solve this online trouble! like spunj pointed out there is no more Modems this can be the future of online gaming (not true but still) this was really bad from 3 players! anyways we sort of agree +1
2020-04-09 21:58
it feels like we totally agree. thanks for the chat. (you see, hltv, non-toxic NaVi fans exist :D)
2020-04-09 22:00
+1
2020-04-09 22:07
s1mple baiter flamie trying to entry frag
2020-04-09 21:17
you are stupid go finger yourself
2020-04-09 21:19
u find facts stupid?
2020-04-09 21:22
#84
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Europe AlL1n 
For real fact calling some opinion of yours fact doesn't make it one.
2020-04-10 00:21
ONLINE CS
2020-04-09 21:18
#38
KSCERATO | 
Brazil RMoLL 
This thread reveals that "baiter" is most offensive than any racist, xenophobic and sexist insinuations daily seen on HLTV.
2020-04-09 21:26
well its a website not about islam or race its about CS if that makes sense to you
2020-04-09 21:31
#64
KSCERATO | 
Brazil RMoLL 
yeah yeah but it's still ok to be a baiter, not racist or stuff tough. u're overreacting so much to evey single comment in here LoL.
2020-04-09 21:50
i am sad may be :p you are right! at the end of the day who cares! I think s1mple and elec deserve better than carrying 3 dead bodies a whole tournament year and year out! won't you agree? PS the reply is to your baiter comment so I was on point
2020-04-09 21:51
#71
KSCERATO | 
Brazil RMoLL 
It is possible you're not being fair with your comrades. Did you check Perfecto, Boombl4 and flamie's stats? Even though they have far worse ratings compared to elec and s1mple, they all have very reasonable round contribution rates. Flamie contributes more than electronic, while boobml4 have an impact close to electronic's. Still, their KAST rating are all very close. Don't look only to K/D ratings. They have their roles in each play.
2020-04-09 22:01
yes I did check! navi has least flash assits, lowest KAST and 3 players now in bottom of the event! and you can guess who! they just didn't play on the level of a top #1 thats all to it
2020-04-09 22:05
evresed ot eid
2020-04-09 21:28
Navi does not have a good tactics system to win at T side, they always try to get the first kill by s1mple or electronic , then they hold the positions and wait that the opponent ...
2020-04-09 21:28
so u r simple/navi fan from Ukraine or just moscovite fakeflagger? haven`t u seen this for example? twitch.tv/s1mple/clip/VainTacitSrirachaB..
2020-04-09 21:32
why does it matter I am in ukraine but i am neither russian or ukr .. I am fan of s1mple and Navi ... it was a shitshow today and this event by 3 players from Navi! is that hard for you to get?
2020-04-09 21:43
u say absolute non sence. U can`t pretend like simple and navi are not vatniks, u can`t close ur eyes and ears like "hey, I don`t wanna hear and see anything I just wanna play/watch cs". It`s absolute infantile, hypocritical, sneaky, absurd and just plain idiotic, schizoid position. If ur flair had same postition he would just said in that stream something like you said to me, like "hey, I`m off politics, don`t wanna say about it". But he didn`t! So grow up finally or move to moscovia cuz ur indifferent position (at least from ur words, u can be just liar, hypocrite) is exactly what moscovia need.
2020-04-10 00:23
#51
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Australia HighRate 
The toxicity in the discord on the navi side dont make it easy for their bad players to perform. Simple always baiting and the three bots only sacrifice themselves. It dont work vs good teams.
2020-04-09 21:33
you are dumb and you shouldn't have opinions on teams! if you have special insight into Navi org and their coms that others don't than please by all means shared with us!! if not than fuck off!
2020-04-09 21:44
#62
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Australia HighRate 
cry more kid. you cant handle that navi is this bad? your era of being toxic every day on the forum is over? lmao. next time dont bet your money on a shit team like navi.
2020-04-09 21:48
jeez you are dumb! and toxic! i posted this before they lost and there is nothing about betting! but you are a troll so who the f cares about your opinion and by the way do you even have any scene from your region or that guy with the mustache is best you can do?
2020-04-09 21:49
#67
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Australia HighRate 
A hating troll calling others troll. lmao. cry more kid.
2020-04-09 21:55
amazing comeback and such a logic! stonks!! all over
2020-04-09 21:57
#72
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Australia HighRate 
pimple fanboys are mostly toxic. Thats why you love someone so toxic like pimple. you identify with the rage, It all makes sense. You lost and I won 700 euro. You cry I laugh. bb kid.
2020-04-09 22:02
well good for you buddy! honestly 700 euros thats alot but bet responsibly! this thread has nothing to do with winning money or losing though! best of luck in the future
2020-04-09 22:03
#78
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Australia HighRate 
ty
2020-04-09 22:09
#81
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
losing is ok, so you can learn from mistakes n get better))
2020-04-10 00:11
#82
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Peru Elkauza 
they should kick flamie
2020-04-10 00:14
Sad!
2020-04-10 00:17
#85
fer | 
Denmark iLoVeReD 
Flamie is drunk, stfu.
2020-04-10 00:22
#88
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Europe AlL1n 
I realy don't get this upset and flame we had same amount of points as mouz and astralis could have won group. Lost one online match and you start flaming on players if you bet money its your problem only bookie wins. Give some time to this rooster it's not like afther this fluke tournament navi will lose nr1 spot
2020-04-10 00:24
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