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Device overrated
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Germany BEING_NAVI_FAN_IS_DEPRESSING 
Device is overrated. People are saying he is a TOP5 player but he's not Magisk will probably take over as the star of Astralis in a next year Device's prime is over, now from year to year he will slowly become worse But I'm not denying the fact that he is one of the greatest or even the greatest counter strike player ever But I'm sick of hearing people calling him one of the best just because of achievments team wise
2020-04-10 14:02
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TL;DR - Device is not anymore in his prime form
2020-04-10 14:03
Bump
2020-04-10 15:17
+1 about your name
2020-04-12 12:42
#2
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Other khorkalba 
Dev1ce is probably the best example of how AWPing safely (not being overly agressive or taking risks) on a highly skilled team can lead to statistical bias. He has BY FAR the easiest role on the greatest CS team we've ever seen. Yet that doesn't seem to click in peoples brains - including the HLTV staff. If his stats are only narrowly better than Magisk or Xyp9x, people give him the MVP award and say that he was the best, even though Magisk and Xyp9x play much harder roles. They'll defend the decision by saying that they're going on impact not just total kills - but being impactful with the AWP (such as opening up a bombsite) is much easier than winning a 1vs3 clutch with a rifle.
2020-04-10 14:09
Smart Digger fan from Africa spotted +1
2020-04-10 14:11
#18
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Denmark Kon10R 
"BY FAR the easiest role" ... Yeah, guess around 200 players could replace him or replicate his career any day ... We will of course not discuss the ability to stay with dupreeh and Xyp9x for 6 years by simply being a great team player and a good friend. There's nothing special or unique about him: No flashy moves, that makes the kids go wild ... just holding angles, stat padding against eco buys ... And all that. Originally a rifler ... just being lucky with the deagle ... for more than half a decade ... Sooooo easy, right?!
2020-04-10 14:49
#21
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Other khorkalba 
I'm not saying he isn't a good player. For the record, I was a big fan of Dev1ce before he even started AWPing. I said that he would one day be the best player in the world back in 2014 when he only just made it into the HLTV top 20. But I do think he has benefitted immensely from the AWPer role and has picked up far more MVP awards than he ever would've received without it. Even s1mple called the AWP the easiest weapon, and his performances dropped off noticeably when he went back to rifling for a while.
2020-04-10 14:58
#27
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Denmark Kon10R 
I think the key factor here is focusing on individual stats compared to results achieved by the team. I only see around 20 star players on the AWP and a similar number/few more of other players picking it up from time to time. But we all know what NaVi has achieved lately compared to S1mple's individual stats. It is simply NOT important! As mentioned elsewhere you as an upcoming player are SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY focused on your individual skills since you are competing against sooo much talent out there. When (if) you reach the pro level you have to TRANSFORM into becoming a TEAM player. It seems that S1mple actually made that transformation during 2019 and guess what happened? NaVi reached top #1 and even kicked Astralis' a ... eeeh .. thoroughly on their way. In other words: He grew up! Now S1mple FINALLY has some serious hard hitters around him! Yes, ups and downs in form and they missed the final in ESL Pro League, but that goes for all of us. In short: Focusing on individual skills is for kids. Playing for the TEAM is for professionals!
2020-04-10 15:11
"and his performances dropped off noticeably when he went back to rifling for a while". LMAO what a bullshit. S1mple wasnt an awper like a half of the year and still has second best stats in 2019 against awper Zywoo. Average LAN rating in 2019: S1mple 1.29 (Best 1+ rating streak 30) Zywoo 1.30 (Best 1+ rating streak 19) At this moment s1mple's best perfomance was back in 2018. Average LAN rating in 2018: S1mple 1.35 (Best 1+ rating streak 22) That 0.6 difference doesn't look like "noticeable dropoff". I think that his stats was a little worster because his teammates where even shittier than in 2018. Zeus was even more washed up, flamie had worst year in his carreer, elec had a real dropoff at first half of the 2019 and guardian was so bad that i cant even describe that.
2020-04-12 11:44
#70
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Sweden d4vv3 
Keeping your nerves in check and always delivering, being consisent and only utilizing your asigned role in your team makes a great player and is not to be underestimated. simple wants to be a one man show in a team game, sorry, wrong game for that, this is clearly reflected in his team achievements. He will fight, argue and bully his team mates into baiting for him, making them feel insecure and underperform so he can come and mop up a few exit frags before saving. His rating is extremely boosted due to this.
2020-04-12 11:06
at first s1mple has most flash assists in the team in 2019 and 2020. at second in 2018 electronic had most eco frags and edward had most exit frags in the team. meanwhile in 2018 s1mple had highest overall k/d and rating in whole cs history so his rating wasnt "extremely boosted due to this". at third s1mple has most entry kills in 2018 and and he was third entry fragger in 2019. And in 2020 s1mple already has most entry kills (and highest entry winrate). at fourth s1mple has clutch record and highest 1v2 and 1v3 clutch winrate in whole csgo history. So why he need to rush and die first? at fifth u are retarded hater.
2020-04-12 11:51
#101
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Netherlands Hugedonger 
Good comment.
2020-04-12 12:43
''this is clearly reflected in his team achievements'' this is not because of s1mple, stop lying ffs
2020-04-12 12:26
I would not say that his role is easy but i would 100% say that his role allows him to have good stats 95% of the time. And as we know good stats is all this community cares about. He is still valuable to his team he is just highly overrated when compared to players like s1mple or niko.
2020-04-12 12:38
dev1ce is top 3 case closed just had a few bad games but still high ratings but not to his standards
2020-04-10 14:11
Top5 by far is s1mple Ropz NiKo EliGE Hunter or Frozen or even Magisk Then people like device and ZywOo appear
2020-04-10 14:15
#9
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Frozen lmao???? Defo delusional
2020-04-10 14:17
Don't even hope that device is in top5
2020-04-10 14:21
#16
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Denmark Zaerdna 
I don't, I know he is. You just don't know how csgo works and think you know more than experts do and clearly a newfag.
2020-04-10 14:22
iF you think device is top 5, YOU don't know how csgo works. Holding a angle and running away to save your stats isn't skillful
2020-04-12 06:30
#34
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India Pallz 
Thank God, your opinion does not count.
2020-04-10 15:27
Thank God India is gone from the real E-Sports
2020-04-10 15:35
Well your shitty country doesnt have the biggest impact in E-Sports either... Delusional Germans, what's new??
2020-04-10 15:40
At least ESL hosts events in our country every year
2020-04-10 15:42
And yet you have no teams to win those events
2020-04-10 15:49
Stupid Danes like you would say it is rigged that a German team won an event in Germany (BIG won Leipzig)
2020-04-10 15:51
Nah, not rigged, just trash tier CS. Boring, who gives a fuck about that trash DH event
2020-04-10 15:54
#189
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Spain Medlar 
No Elec, no real top 5
2020-04-14 02:04
device good but not best)) idk who even rates him anymore
2020-04-10 14:11
He was the top fragger of Mouz vs Astralis wym? Ropz was not even close to his stats
2020-04-12 12:23
#7
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Denmark potatomato 
Device is best
2020-04-10 14:15
+1
2020-04-12 12:23
+2
2020-04-12 14:04
#8
Denmark hytex 
He is too inconsistent.
2020-04-10 14:16
#10
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Denmark Zaerdna 
DEVICE INCOSISTENT???? LOOOOOOOL DUUUUUUDE. He is literally the most consistent player in history????? 0/8
2020-04-10 14:17
No.
2020-04-10 14:18
#13
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Great argument, I surrender.
2020-04-10 14:18
Good.
2020-04-10 14:19
why french?
2020-04-12 17:43
why are u sucking his dick so much? jesus christ
2020-04-12 13:04
IN HISTORY !!!!
2020-04-13 15:01
LMFAO
2020-04-10 14:18
#19
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Denmark Kon10R 
Over the last few months he said so himself. Over the last 5 years there are no one even close.
2020-04-10 14:55
#17
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Sweden god_sdy 
Hes really bad, yet hes toying with basically everyone on FaZe, mouz and OG lol. Hes a top3 player in his role, deal with it. Playing on the #1 team in the world with 4 players equal to him just makes him seem alot less crazy than players on his level who are on teams with much wider skill gap. Being the top dog on a team like Astralis for years isn't easy when you've got 4 other players on the team who would grab a spot on ANY team in the world in their position. Comparing players in CS:GO 5on5 is pretty dumb as well. Everyone plays different roles and the objective is for the TEAM to succeed. Dev1ce, in his role and what he does for his team and the achievements hes made throughout the years definitely puts him above 99% of the players in the top scene, no doubt
2020-04-10 14:28
#22
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Denmark Kon10R 
+1 Clever observation! People in here are SOOOO focused on individual skills. "This guy is better than that guy" ... Which any upcoming talent would do: To achieve a spot in the pro scene you have to compete on an individual level. They just don't get it ... when you finally GET there you need to become a TEAM player. That seems to be an unfathomable concept for the youngsters in here.
2020-04-10 15:00
Why didn't you make this argument your self? Oh, what's that, your probably 12 y/o who doesn't know anything and relies to other people to help you out
2020-04-10 15:11
#28
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Denmark Kon10R 
He he ... You have no idea ... ;O)
2020-04-10 15:14
We judge him on HIS INDIVIDUAL SKILL because we ARE TALKING ABOUT DEVICE NOT ASTRALIS
2020-04-12 06:32
#64
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Denmark Kon10R 
And there you have it ...
2020-04-12 10:53
There you are, someone saying hes the best in the world because he has the most TROPHYS and most MAJORS. HOW CAN HE BE THE BEST IN THE WORLD WHEN HE ISN'T SKILLED AT ALL
2020-04-12 11:18
#79
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Denmark Kon10R 
I find it hard to think of a decent conversation with you with observation skills like that: "Isn't skilled at all" about a player who's been in the player-of-the-year-discussion for 5 years straight, most MVP's of all time, 4 Majors, a Grand Slam as well as being together with dupreeh and Xyp9x for 6 years. Defensive AWP'ing style like no other, originally a rifler, deadly with a deagle, even clutching abilities ... Ups and downs, yes ... like we all have and he even said so recently in an interview, but it seems that you try to make "lesser of him" instead of just observing facts, results and stats. You simply can't be a "bad" player with his achievements and career. Some may be better individually, but he may not give a dime: He is a part of a TEAM! Zywoo? In a bit of a slump ... because he's growing up, right?! S1mple is shining like never before! Because he has a TEAM now! Did that help?
2020-04-12 11:32
Did this "We judge him on HIS INDIVIDUAL SKILL because we ARE TALKING ABOUT DEVICE NOT ASTRALIS" Not tell you we're talking about Device, and DEVICE only? not Astralis. HIS TEAM has the most achieved trophys, HIS TEAM has the most majors, HIS TEAM is the most Successful, AND HIS TEAM has a grand slam. Device couldn't get ONE without anyone in his team, DEVICE wouldn't be with a team if it wasn't for astralis. Because if hes so good why didn't any team buy him out before. For Example, Na'Vi wanted kennyS over Guardian. Team Liquid wanted S1mple, so they got him, then Na'Vi wanted him so they got him. But why is it. NO ONE wanted device? The Fact you don't know the difference between a team and a player shows that you're retarded. The fact you think he is good because hes been on the top 5 since he started is retarded. He is a ECO FRAGGER, a STAT HUNTER, and a FRAG HUNTER. I wouldn't hate device so much if delusional fans LIKE YOU wouldn't be so delusional and SEE that device isn't the GOAT. And Don't say you don't think that EVERYONE thats a fan of device thinks hes a goat. So don't even say he is. I hope one day you get your facts right, know what the definition of a team and play. Definition of Team: a group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport. Definition of player: a person taking part in a sport or game. See the difference???? See how we are talking about the player?
2020-04-12 12:08
Are you REALLY that stupid, that you think you can judge device's performance OUT of his team!? He is performing ON the team - the best the world have ever seen. He is NOT a one man show. Holy moly, how you are cringe!
2020-04-12 12:12
omfg, another delusional fan boy that wants to suck devices cock. his skill on streams are shit aswell. He IS a SHIT player JUST ACCEPT THE FACTS.
2020-04-12 12:11
lol i think that u are the one who is delusional
2020-04-12 14:12
Oh really? So do I think device is the goat? No. Do I bring in the team when everyone is clearly talking a out device? No. You're the one delusional.
2020-04-13 00:25
HAHAHAAAHA
2020-04-13 11:26
#86
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Denmark Kon10R 
Okay. It didn't help. My point was that it is pointless to discuss individual player skills. Goat or not ... He doesn't care and I for sure don't. And I guess that no team has the money to buy him. He simply doesn't want to leave his TEAM. "Buddies through thick and thin" seems to be the strongest concept we've seen in CS GO history. Other teams go for roster changes all the time. He saw long ago where his best chances were to WIN the big prizes. Now ... DAT's a clever player! Delusional? Hmmm ... I just look at the numbers. GOAT? Team: Yes. Dev1ce? Irrelevant.
2020-04-12 12:19
omg, can you fucking read? stop. BRING. the. TEAM. into. THIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVICE
2020-04-12 12:21
#92
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Denmark Kon10R 
Find it hard to fuck and read at the same time ... And I'm saying: The "greatest individual player of all time" is a discussion for youngsters. It SIMPLY DOESN'T MATTER AT THE PRO LEVEL! As an upcoming young star it means EVERYTHING. At the toplevel it means NOTHING. Karrigan? Oh dear ... have we heard numerous discussions about his lack of individual skills ... but wait ... he must bring SOMETHING to his TEAM, right?! Thanx anyway for a decent discussion.
2020-04-12 12:26
Next time someone talks about device, do everyone a favor, don't comment on it at all. Because its about device not astralis. But thanks for being carm and collected and no as delusional as most device fans are, you're rare.
2020-04-12 12:29
#97
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Denmark Kon10R 
He ... I like to participate in these discussions! My "opponents" fall in - mainly - two categories: Those who can bring arguments to the table and those going for "primary school names" ... or "personal attacks" if you like. (I was once called a "shit cunt" ... ;O) entertaining, but hopeless.) You probably figured out which ones I like! Worthy opponents, good "fights" ... or discussions and exchange og viewpoints ... and then we shake hands afterwards! Enjoy the day, my friend!
2020-04-12 12:39
okay, but what im saying is don't bring in the team when we're talking about the player, theres no point. "shit cunt" <---- Joke btw
2020-04-12 12:42
#103
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Denmark Kon10R 
That's my entire point: Dev1ce is playing for his team. That's why I brought it up. I see your flair: KennyS. He doesn't thrive if he can't do "KennyS" things (which are absolutely wonderful to watch!) ... but it is simply not enough. None of Astralis' players top any individual list, but apparently that's not important. I guess we don't get any further here, but that's fine. Gottago!
2020-04-12 12:49
Okay then, that might be your point. But its got nothing to do with astralis when we are talking about the player. and not the team.
2020-04-12 13:06
#142
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Denmark Kon10R 
You might have touched the fringes of this idea ... And I might have mentioned in passing that it is pointless to discuss individual skills, especially regarding Astralis. Star players, superheroes and Fast Guns In The West look cool on tv ... but DON'T win the big money. Is there ANYTHING you need to add here? ;O)
2020-04-12 17:38
Yea, again, adding the team aspect when we are talking about the player. Is pointless
2020-04-13 00:26
#170
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Denmark Kon10R 
And we of course include in the discussion that individual skills is for upcoming stars, but that team play is more important at the pro level ... Just to look at all aspects ...
2020-04-13 11:26
If we were talking about teams, Yes I will look at all aspects, but since we are talking about DEVICE I will only look at the aspects of device and device only
2020-04-13 13:34
#176
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Denmark Kon10R 
I slowly, gradually but vaguely begin to understand your viewpoint ... that Dev1ce's individual skills is the topic here ... where I pointed out that it's irrelevant in his case ... compared to Zywoo, S1mple, KennyS and others ... Which - as well - might have occured to you 50 posts ago ... Let's move on, shall we? ;O)
2020-04-13 14:44
Yes, thank you for understanding.
2020-04-14 01:47
#190
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Denmark Kon10R 
I was convinced the irony was clear, considering the beginning of our chat, but yes: Thank you too!
2020-04-14 03:03
#72
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Sweden d4vv3 
couldn't have said it better myself.
2020-04-12 11:08
#24
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Turkey GOATVICE 
+1 That being said once again proven GOAT DEVICE #1 Its much harder to shine in a team like Astralis than Navi robbed of #1 2018 and 2019 and Player of the Decade , so sad
2020-04-10 15:07
#75
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Denmark Kon10R 
He may not be too worried though: Most MVP's is "individual recognition enough" for him - so to speak. He's got FOUR stars on his shirt, and Zywoo, S1mple and/or any other player of the year would trade any day! ;O)
2020-04-12 11:19
+1 wisely comment signed up dated check out
2020-04-12 12:35
why change flair haha
2020-04-10 15:02
I'm fan of both since 2018
2020-04-10 15:10
+1 most overrated player ever
2020-04-10 15:17
nt
2020-04-12 04:49
are you stalking me now ?
2020-04-12 10:48
Nt
2020-04-12 14:02
nt weeb
2020-04-12 13:04
-1
2020-04-12 14:05
everything checks out
2020-04-12 14:08
nt summit
2020-04-12 14:09
#31
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Romania Summerparty23 
0/8
2020-04-10 15:17
+1
2020-04-12 14:05
+1
2020-04-12 14:11
I have suspicions that all of you guys aren't watching Astralis games when you say bs like this
2020-04-10 15:19
+1
2020-04-12 12:24
+2
2020-04-12 14:05
only complete idiots use such terminology as "overrated" and "underrated" when they talk about cs
2020-04-10 15:21
If ur saying that, then ur dissing whole HLTV community
2020-04-10 15:49
that's a huge generalization
2020-04-10 15:49
The irony here is amazing
2020-04-12 05:02
I know, I feel stupid now, but tbh I'm just sick of envious people who want to devalue pro players' achievements and success by calling them overrated while they probably haven't achieved shit in anything. It hurts my feelings, that's why I said that thing
2020-04-12 06:10
People can be overrated, yet not be bad. For example, to say KennyS is currently the best awper would be overrating his skill. Now to say he’s a bad awper though. And the same goes for underrated. Underrated players aren’t necessarily good, they may just not be bad. For example Olof fits that category imo.
2020-04-12 06:10
Baiter just like Baitzera
2020-04-10 15:27
+1
2020-04-10 15:30
#37
Europe Dov 
no he's not a top5 player but a top 3
2020-04-10 15:30
#39
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Nepal sasukeee 
If device was in an other team than astralis, he would be a no-namer. Not even top 20
2020-04-10 15:37
Around Top 10
2020-04-10 15:38
lul top 20 if lucky
2020-04-12 10:51
Why you bump this thread?
2020-04-12 11:02
somoneone else did
2020-04-12 11:03
Why did he do that?
2020-04-12 11:12
I agree, why Emilia would date that skinny ass tiny dick dude
2020-04-10 15:42
Wtf
2020-04-10 15:48
yeah, he's way hotter than her.
2020-04-12 04:50
but your dick is smaller mens
2020-04-12 13:02
21cm ;)
2020-04-12 14:43
Why would you ever reply to the repress of the most feminine nation ever existed
2020-04-13 00:32
u sound like an idiot...u said he is overrated but then go on to say he is one of the greatest players ever...
2020-04-12 05:09
and the sky blue
2020-04-12 10:50
If anybody is ovverrated in Astralis its Magisk. Just another braindead star aimer, cs has plenty of them, easiest to be replaced. That being said i have to admit hes great aimer but still plenty of that in the pro scene.
2020-04-12 10:51
haha pls be a bait otherwise you're probably the dumbest human being.
2020-04-12 10:56
Well when you got to know cs better you will see that aim stars and awpers are easiest roles in there. Doesnt mean that this players are bad, just overrated.
2020-04-12 16:17
ok youre dumb. have a nide day, dumbfuck.
2020-04-12 16:17
I did report you kid, alltho im not angry at you. Only thing you did is just proving my point.
2020-04-12 16:18
Hes not brainless. However i feel like hes probably the easiest one to replace in astralis, or maybe dupreeh
2020-04-12 14:04
Dupreeh hardes actually. Guy can play every gun in game very versatile aswell as t as ct can awp can entry can lurk can multikill can clutch can deagle, everything.
2020-04-12 16:15
I forgot hes actually second caller in team also.
2020-04-12 16:16
#66
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh 
>I'm not denying the fact that he is one of the greatest or even the greatest counter strike player ever >Device is overrated. pick 1
2020-04-12 10:58
device in another team will be tier 3 player. But in Astralis his passive baiting role is matching perfectly
2020-04-12 11:03
swiss cs kekw
2020-04-12 14:06
erdogan cs kekw
2020-04-12 16:57
#71
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Israel nawledge 
name 5 better players then
2020-04-12 11:06
*Underrated Deserved top1 in 2018, top2 in 2019, top2 in 2016 etc. People just hate on him because they can't stand how perfect he is. Looks, skills, achievements, humbleness, everything.
2020-04-12 11:22
+1
2020-04-12 14:06
Well, it is his fault he couldn't get those top2's and top1
2020-04-12 14:07
#77
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Poland XERGI 
He has got the best team in history but he isn't so good. In all maps he Has the best position hes baiting teammates too Magisk never baits and have worst position than him and not playing with awp and still same statistic. In my opinion the best denmark player is definilitly Magiskboy
2020-04-12 11:22
yeah, without magisk astralis would be fucked.
2020-04-12 16:16
#78
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Italy CHEBBOxxx 
check how many entry kills he has. and you say he plays in the easiest role? he plays for the most studied and countered team of the scene. and still he is able to put up +20 kills almost every match.
2020-04-12 11:23
+1
2020-04-12 14:06
He was better in 2018/2019 than in 2020 for sure.. But he still has a 1.20 rating for 2020 and is still one of the best AWP players around. Not overrated yet.
2020-04-12 11:36
Lulquid fan is talking LOL
2020-04-12 12:24
your dad
2020-04-12 12:54
delusional
2020-04-12 12:45
your mom
2020-04-12 12:54
expected from a liquid fan
2020-04-12 12:55
Your mom
2020-04-12 12:56
0/8
2020-04-12 12:59
Your mom
2020-04-12 12:59
bro dev1ce is goat and best player in best team in cs go history. if you say he is individually not good then go and watch astralis match again and again on t-side he always do entry fragging when he have rifle in his hand, on other side if we look at simple he always baits his teammates get info then fight. So Stop crying about dev1ce. He is one of the best player counter strike have seen.
2020-04-12 13:19
+1
2020-04-12 14:05
“again on t-side he always do entry fragging” Just as to say look at Brolan he doesn’t abuse krieg, you see him getting entry with glock versus rifles. Flair checks out, ignorance at its finest level
2020-04-13 00:34
I remember dev1ce crying like a bitch because he lost so many semi-finals. What he should really be crying about is that he the most boring player to ever touch the game.
2020-04-12 14:06
+1
2020-04-13 00:32
LEL overrated being five straight years in top 5 cry more
2020-04-12 16:19
overrated with 4 majors and 2 majors mvp xaxaxa Cry is free in the corner
2020-04-12 16:20
+1
2020-04-12 17:39
#140
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Sweden Akoulad 
flair or luckQuid aka FlukeQuid hahah
2020-04-12 16:27
#144
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Mongolia k0ng0 
Device rated.
2020-04-12 17:42
#146
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Italy Wakkaa 
I always thought device was overrated .. but gotta be honest man .. apart from the fact that he moves like a robot, he's extremely good in this game .. just not as flashy as s1mple or zywoo for example.
2020-04-12 17:48
dev1ce has been the most overrated player for years. hes not even a top 10 player skill wise.
2020-04-13 00:31
yeah, hes top 5 :)
2020-04-13 00:33
nah probably 11th/12th best player. hes never been in the top 10
2020-04-13 01:13
lel.
2020-04-13 01:13
checked your profile, authored threads and recent posts convinced me youre a retard :D
2020-04-13 01:24
Mad dane can’t ha dale the truth that device is overrated and astralis era is over. Yikes
2020-04-13 01:27
didnt say anything about their era :D. but device is not overrated.
2020-04-13 01:30
Simply not true. Device is the most overrated player in counter strike history. Underwhelming individual player. He plays for stats and his cuck teammates feed him kills
2020-04-13 01:35
LOL. He's the most important fragger in the team. He's easily a top 5 individual in CSGO. He can easily be the best player on the server even when he loses. Just stfu. And he's literally the opposite of playing for stats.
2020-04-13 01:36
yikes. this astralis fanboy ^ is too far gone. theres no help left for you LOL
2020-04-13 01:37
jesus youre such an ignorant.
2020-04-13 01:37
jesus youre such an ignorant.
2020-04-13 01:38
you people are saying astralis fans are retarded, but most of you are crying and saying shit like ecovice, statpadder, baiter etc. thats just not true.
2020-04-13 01:39
how mad are you that your team is finished and will never win another tournament? VERY MAD. GET HELP!
2020-04-13 01:44
youre so dumb. i didnt say anything about astralis. you just dont have anything left to say so you have to go completely off topic.
2020-04-13 01:45
#177
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Finland TuureBoelius 
device > krieglige
2020-04-13 14:45
You say he's overrated. Then in the same post say he's one of the best ever. Fucking God bless you.
2020-04-13 00:33
He's overrated rn dude. His individual has sucked so far and people still say he's top5/top3 But if we're talking about all time, then he's top5 and he's the G.O.A.T for a lot of people
2020-04-13 14:50
#157
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Denmark JEBO 
Spoken like a true LULquid fan :)
2020-04-13 01:15
+1
2020-04-13 01:45
Usual answer from Astralis fan. I bet you would defend him even if he had like 1.03 rating just like people did with GuardiaN
2020-04-13 14:50
#191
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Denmark JEBO 
nah i can take the hate and accept and admit that astralis is currently playing like shit. Btw "USuaL anSwEr fRoM a lUlQuiD fAn, i bET yOu wOulD deFenD THeM eVen if ThEy wERe pLayIng lIkE ShIT"
2020-04-14 17:00
Usual chokestralis fan answer when Astralis wins a match "aStraLis eRa neVEr enDED *dAniSH AutISm nOIsEs*
2020-04-14 17:09
#197
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Denmark JEBO 
Well that would apply to me if i denied that their era never ended, though i don't. Ntnt buddy. Btw good job on the autism noises, you got them just right, like u have tried it before
2020-04-15 01:12
dev1ce is a top 50 player on a good day.
2020-04-13 11:27
lul
2020-04-14 17:10
*individually playing in astralis makes you look better
2020-04-14 17:14
lul.
2020-04-14 17:15
agree
2020-04-13 11:33
Well if he is so bad why haven't astralis just replaced him with someone else? Also 1.29 impact rating, baiting checks out... He is in fact one of the most underrated players of all time
2020-04-13 11:50
Name 1 better danish awper than device.
2020-04-13 14:51
I can't because he's the best
2020-04-13 17:21
Then stfu
2020-04-13 17:45
Device Overrated KennyS outdated Long Have we awaited Bad FalleN activated
2020-04-13 14:51
Brazil monkaS
2020-04-13 14:52
Jerman Omegalul
2020-04-13 14:57
Wait till the year ends ,its been 4 months ffs ,ofc this isnt the best device and this isnt december ,so please everyone shut up about s1mple,device,zywoo,etc till atleast november major ends
2020-04-13 15:01
read my name thank u
2020-04-14 17:10
MAD Lions
1.89
ENCE
1.95
Gen.G
1.99
Evil Geniuses
1.85
9z
1.55
Neverest
2.40
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