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best tier 2 cs team?
Iceland IM_FAN_OF_YOU 
mibr/north/furia? tell me mens, what's your thoughts))
2020-04-20 10:15
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mad lions
2020-04-20 10:15
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god hunden
2020-04-20 10:16
1 reply
i love ur username +1
2020-04-20 10:16
+1 Next astralis
2020-04-20 10:57
2 replies
+1000000000000000000000
2020-04-20 11:39
i hope
2020-04-20 12:30
u mad?
2020-04-20 12:19
3 replies
didnt u know "mad" its not cause their are mad? Mad from Mad Liones comes from Madrid Liones
2020-04-20 12:33
2 replies
u mad?
2020-04-20 12:33
1 reply
what i expressed my opinon something wrong?
2020-04-20 13:12
#44
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India _Jazz_
+1
2020-04-20 13:18
#105
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Spain 1996
+1
2020-04-20 18:30
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Australia opzy
flag checks out but i think renegades are up there for sure. Just dont get opportunities to play against international teams that much
2020-04-20 10:16
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Hmm who is renegades top 1 player?
2020-04-20 10:18
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Australia opzy
dexter, who's also igl. Without him they are low t2, he is such a beast
2020-04-20 10:20
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dexter, ins and Sico are all very good players. Hatz is insane too, just not in the best role atm + in a new team. malta is a good support player who has the odd series where he goes ham.
2020-04-20 10:40
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#27
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Australia opzy
malta is either bottom, 2nd bottom or top fragging. There is no middle malta.
2020-04-20 10:46
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Nah malta definitely has series where he goes very well, on all recent iterations of Renegades and Grayhound. hltv.org/matches/2336324/liquid-vs-grayh.. hltv.org/matches/2334950/grayhound-vs-ty.. hltv.org/matches/2340139/renegades-vs-av.. He is obviously the worst on the team but he does have his moments and isn't dead weight as I said.
2020-04-20 10:54
i really liked renegades the last time i saw them play i hope they get better and have good results
2020-04-20 12:33
ENCE
2020-04-20 10:20
5 replies
not even tier 2
2020-04-20 10:22
4 replies
true
2020-04-20 10:23
#19
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Japan LorisDF
yeah, they're tier 1
2020-04-20 10:26
2 replies
+111
2020-04-20 10:31
1 reply
Name doesn't check out
2020-04-20 15:48
Ence, NIP,
2020-04-20 10:21
2 replies
nip, yeah why not
2020-04-20 10:23
Ence, RIP***
2020-04-20 13:20
forZe But tier-1 soon
2020-04-20 10:23
4 replies
nah, forze will never be a T1 team, just a solid T2 team
2020-04-20 10:33
plastic fan strikes again forze tier1 for like 6 months already
2020-04-20 13:24
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men I'm just being realistic, right after DH Masters victory forZe tier-1 confirmed
2020-04-20 14:03
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dh master victory xDDDD hahahahahha
2020-04-20 14:44
#11
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Poland tutatek
Astralis
2020-04-20 10:23
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maybe in few months))
2020-04-20 10:25
100T
2020-04-20 10:26
1 reply
yeah maybe i'm sleeping on them xd
2020-04-20 10:30
Heretics
2020-04-20 10:25
3 replies
nice nickname :DDD natus flukus
2020-04-20 10:25
2 replies
Ty
2020-04-20 10:26
1 reply
GAYS
2020-04-20 12:32
i would say top 13 are all tier 1. I'd say either complexity, Renegades or GODSENT would be the best tier 2 teams
2020-04-20 10:34
gen.g
2020-04-20 10:40
Big
2020-04-20 10:43
3 replies
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Brunei Not_StriK
Big tier 1
2020-04-20 16:00
2 replies
Tier 0 maybe
2020-04-20 16:48
1 reply
xd
2020-04-20 18:31
COL, forZe, MAD Lions, OG, HAVU pick 1 that u like the most
2020-04-20 10:56
3 replies
col are good af men))
2020-04-20 11:06
COL and OG t1 atm
2020-04-20 16:25
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Finland viikeri
og t1 team that cant play against t2 teams
2020-04-20 17:43
#34
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Poland $o$
Faze
2020-04-20 12:23
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He didn't say tier 1 or top 1 team
2020-04-20 18:27
Right now: NiP, MAD Lions, coL In future: BIG, ENCE, OG
2020-04-20 12:25
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how if HAVU >>> ENCE
2020-04-20 16:26
1 reply
Not
2020-04-20 17:41
MAD LIONS, HAVU and Spirit
2020-04-20 12:27
North t2 lol.. try t4 or something like that
2020-04-20 12:30
Gen.G ?
2020-04-20 13:23
>mibr >tier 2 tier 4 at best
2020-04-20 13:26
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xddd
2020-04-20 15:23
Astralis
2020-04-20 13:28
#50
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Ukraine IAFNN
Furia
2020-04-20 13:29
Among those 3 id pick furia.
2020-04-20 13:30
#52
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Europe H1P_STER
NAVI btw nice nickname
2020-04-20 13:32
5 replies
0/8
2020-04-20 13:55
3 replies
#55
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Europe H1P_STER
Flair and nickname checks out, s2mple's sucker
2020-04-20 13:57
I agre with H1PSTER
2020-04-20 15:58
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wtf traitor
2020-04-21 14:30
ty men, dosia knows))
2020-04-20 15:23
Furia, OG, 100T
2020-04-20 13:33
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United States clockworkk
gen.g
2020-04-20 15:24
mad lions. i think they will enter top 10 soon
2020-04-20 15:41
1 reply
Delusional OG fan not representing his own org???
2020-04-20 15:51
#62
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Russia Jet1k
forZe
2020-04-20 15:45
Mad Lions obviously
2020-04-20 15:47
og
2020-04-20 15:49
FAZE FIX!! rain - support Niko - rifle/IGL FALLEN - awp/IGL Coldzera - anchor Fer - lurker I believe this would be a new era of wins :)
2020-04-20 15:50
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Fallen - shit IGL Fer - deaf player whos unmotivated
2020-04-20 17:48
#67
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Brazil Fauchard
mad lions off course dude
2020-04-20 15:50
Mad Lions are the new kids on the block. They have the potential to be Tier 1 for sure. Then again, so does MiBR. FalleN and Fer are looking SHARP
2020-04-20 15:53
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vs tier 2 and 3 teams they look sharp. Vs experienced players that they have no leverage against they look mediocre. Thats why they got outplaced by Furia at EPL
2020-04-20 15:54
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That's why I said they're the best in tier 2. This thread is about the best players in tier 2 and has nothing to do with how they compete against tier 1 players. They're able to outclass everyone at this level, so they're at the top of that tier and have the potential to become tier 1 if they continue along this path. Also, why are you assuming that tier 2 players don't have experience?
2020-04-20 16:06
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Mad Lions, Furia, OG all better teams in tier 2. So no they arent outclassing everyone at this level. Theyre major winners and cant even beat tier 2 Denmark They dont have nearly the experience a team like MiBR has, a 2x major winning core vs teams like Havu, Orgless, Envy. Theres clearly a gap in experience. Theres different levels of experience bud. Theyve been playing the game at a competitive level for much longer than these teams and have simply been in situations more and know how to react. Both in game and emotionally. They have an advantage in Flashpoint that they dont have in EPL vs MORE experienced teams. You really gonna argue that Havu is as experienced as Liquid and EG?
2020-04-20 16:11
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Of course not, you fucking retard. I didn't say half of the things you're claiming I did. You worded it like tier 2 doesn't have the experience, not me. MiBR didn't win flashpoint, but they got to the grand finals and took a game off of them. Their first half of CT train was also phenomenal from MiBR. It was a contentious set. When I said "They're," I was talking about both Mad Lions and MiBR. In my original post, I mentioned two teams, not one. Your argument is scatterbrained. I would also argue that Furia is at the bottom of tier 1. Understand that even though they won majors they haven't fallen as far as you think they have. The fact that they did so well in flashpoint proves they're still an extremely capable squad, even if Meyern is holding them back. Overall, everyone in MiBR is well above average in the tier 2 scene.
2020-04-20 16:23
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No i worded it clearly like MiBR has an advantage vs Flashpoint teams that they dont have in EPL. Okay even if Furia is at the bottom of tier 1 OG, BiG, Forze all better teams. And yeah they fell INSANELY far this is the first time theyve looked decent since dropping Cold. The 16th of March was literally the lowest the team ever reached since becoming relevant. Youre going against blatant logic here my friend. Another idiot who thinks the 5th is the problem and not fallens outdated leadership
2020-04-20 16:26
You fucking retard, mad dweebs will be mad. Gotta take these frustrations out on HLTV because your scrawny ass would get popped irl.
2020-04-20 16:39
I think Navi is the best tier-2 team
2020-04-20 15:57
1 reply
+99
2020-04-20 16:51
big, geng, col and og are all pretty solid tier 2 teams, although og has too many igl's
2020-04-20 15:57
#75
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Latvia PeaceDATA
ForZe, Spirit
2020-04-20 16:00
mad lions, navi, ence
2020-04-20 16:29
1 reply
+99 for navi
2020-04-20 16:49
depends if ur talking about performing in tier 2 or being able to perform vs tier 1 the former category would be mibr, big, geng, c9, all tier 2 cis teams, and mad lions the latter category would be col, furia, nip (only online), and og
2020-04-20 16:45
Navi
2020-04-20 16:49
1 reply
Good choice 😁😁🤜
2020-04-20 21:50
faze
2020-04-20 16:49
1 reply
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Sweden quacke
name checks out
2020-04-20 17:00
#90
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Europe eyttz
North Academy 2017, AGO 2017/2018, PENTA 2017
2020-04-20 16:53
Dignitas
2020-04-20 16:56
#93
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Sweden quacke
Imo: Tier 1: Top 14 of the ranking Tier 2: BIG, Gen.G, MIBR, forZe, VP, GODSENT, Complexity, North, ENCE, Heroic Tier 3: Rest of top 30. In current form I think MIBR are probably the strongest of tier 2, because they are good online. But overall I think Gen.G or Complexity are strongest.
2020-04-20 17:00
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#98
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Russia MeowZer
that looks weird yours tier 1 wider than tier2 no sence
2020-04-20 17:46
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Sweden quacke
yeah I thought OG, MAD Lions, FURIA and NiP should be included. FURIA have shown they can hold their own in the top tier (last year's ECS for example), OG looked very good in EPL and I just think NiP still are a bit too good to be in tier 2, they did almost make it to EPL Stage 2 after all. Flashpoint may have been a tier 2-3 tournament, sure, but MAD Lions won that deservedly, beating a very stronk MIBR and several other teams in the process, and they've been strong for quite a few months now. Then again I guess they should be in tier 2 because they haven't really proven themselves in tier 1 yet.
2020-04-20 18:29
#97
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Russia MeowZer
ForZe
2020-04-20 17:44
north, heroic, mad lions, forze
2020-04-20 17:47
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#106
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Sweden quacke
i like your name, k-mag for the win
2020-04-20 18:30
dignitas
2020-04-20 18:26
heroic or mad lions
2020-04-20 18:28
#108
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France CeperAnt
Team Heretics or G2
2020-04-20 18:31
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