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Let's fix every weapon
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Sweden quacke 
Good weapons: -AK47 -M4A4 -AUG -AWP -SSG 08 -Galil -FAMAS -Desert Eagle -USP-S -P250 -MP9 -XM1014 Meh weapons: -UMP-45 -Five-SeveN -CZ -Tec-9 -SG 553 -Both Autos -M4A1-S -MAG-7 -MP7/MP5 -Glock-18 -P2000 Bad weapons: -Dual Berettas -R8 Revolver -Nova -Sawed-Off -Negev -M249 -PP-Bizon -P90 Imo these are the bad and good weapons in the game, based on their actual usefulness in the game, and how much use they see in pro games. When thinking about price and stats as well as how often they can be used, how do we fix these guns?
2020-04-21 18:56
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how are krieg, m4a1s and cz in 2 category? xm1014 should be in 2nd not 1st
2020-04-21 18:59
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#19
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Sweden quacke
XM is actually used quite often in pro games, and it almost always yields a multikill in my experience. M4A1-S is based on community feedback on here, as everyone seems to think it's shit as fuck while some think it's balanced thanks to the price. CZ I hardly ever see used in pro games. Krieg because it's up for debate after the nerf.
2020-04-21 19:17
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if there is a b rush on mirage, there is about 70% chance to have one cz on t side
2020-04-21 19:26
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#40
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Sweden quacke
Not in pro games from what I've seen. My point is it's not a commonly used weapon in the meta, and Valve's goal is to get it in there through balancing. Personally I think the recoil is too big, and it could use a buff in kill reward from 100$ to 200$. Like WarOwl once said, you need to get an ace to pay back this gun. Compared to the MAC-10 (if you can afford one) or the P250 or Deagle, that makes it not as useful in eco rounds. I think it would be OP with the full 300$ kill reward, but 200$ would probably be suitable.
2020-04-21 19:36
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yea, maybe it is like that. but i do not talk about the cost here I mean that it is good for dealing damage
2020-04-21 19:46
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#50
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Sweden quacke
Yeah but arguably there are better pistols for that as well. Deagle for example. I think it's always worth it to splash out 200$ extra for a weapon that can do much more damage, and on top of that has a full kill reward. When talking about weapon balance price definitely has to be taken into account.
2020-04-21 19:49
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i agree personally me, i use p250 after a lost pistol round, deagle after a won one
2020-04-21 19:51
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#57
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Sweden quacke
Yeah I only ever use the P250 if I REALLY need to save money, like if I have 2300 after a lost round, I know I'll need 2000 but the Glock will do nothing against armor. If I can buy Deagle without going under 1800, I usually will because I know it will hopefully, most likely, give me a much better chance of getting a kill or winning the round.
2020-04-21 19:53
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ur right man now, u convinced me bout the cz
2020-04-21 19:54
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#63
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Sweden quacke
:) Good talk
2020-04-21 20:15
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galil tier 1?
2020-04-21 22:19
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#103
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Sweden quacke
It's cheap, and while it doesn't go toe to toe with the AK and M4, it does put up a good fight against SMGs, which is exactly the role it's supposed to fill.
2020-04-21 22:26
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Valid points, but the bulletspread on that thing is so chaotic though. I'd rather just wait for an AK. Compared to it's counter-part (Famas), it's also inferior, I think it should be tier 2.
2020-04-21 22:29
Krieg in tier 2 is correct now
2020-04-21 19:20
#2
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United Kingdom SkeptiiC
Nova is OP. Have you ever played CSGO before? You almost earn it's price for a single kill. It's got extremely low spread. It's literally OP in CQC situations... Fix your list please.
2020-04-21 18:59
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Yes, that's the thing. IN close quarters situation, if they don't come to your bombsite have fun retaking with nova.
2020-04-21 19:01
4 replies
ROFL
2020-04-21 21:51
Your point basically applies to all shotguns
2020-04-22 09:20
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#128
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Sweden quacke
Lmao +1
2020-04-22 10:33
#10
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Germany MackyGee
this
2020-04-21 19:03
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#16
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United Kingdom SkeptiiC
But that's the thing, if you're not playing in close quarters.. don't buy it?
2020-04-21 19:12
#21
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Sweden quacke
Yeah, thing is that's very situational. In most cases, for the same price it's usually worth buying an MP9 instead because even though the kill reward is smaller, you're almost guaranteed a kill if you play it right. It's also better than the Nova at medium distances so it's a lot more flexible. In most rounds, where you don't know what's gonna happen and you might need to rotate to longer range positions, it's much better to have the flexible guns. But I agree the Nova's stats are good, it's just there are other weapons that do the job better.
2020-04-21 19:19
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#37
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United Kingdom SkeptiiC
I just feel that people don't use it properly. You'd think at a medium range it's not that good but it's really not as bad as you would expect. However, since it's bullet spread over distance isn't as wild as you'd expect, it can do some really good damage at medium ranges too.. and if you're lucky you could even one tap someone to the body at medium range.
2020-04-21 19:32
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#41
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Sweden quacke
Could be true. I think a possibility could be increasing its firerate a bit. It feels painfully slow when you miss a shot, and you're usually doomed. Another solution might be to decrease its spread slightly, in exchange for removing a pellet. It would make it slightly more flexible, but would still be a close range focused weapon. The removed pellet would decrease its damage slightly, but not enough to make it useless.
2020-04-21 19:40
#66
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United States Bioax
i agree. the nova is a mag 7 but less efficient reload. however, it can be better than the mag in some situations where i want to reload one pellet rather than the whole clip.
2020-04-21 20:19
>famas >good weapon pick one bloomer
2020-04-21 19:00
6 replies
+1
2020-04-21 19:02
Famas is a good weapon for the price
2020-04-21 19:02
#24
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Sweden quacke
I think it's pretty fair. 2050$ for a rifle with decent performance. It's good for anti-forcebuys, and when you just can't afford an M4 and utility it's often bought instead. Same goes for Galil. If you think it's bad, please motivate why, this thread is made to fix the weapons.
2020-04-21 19:21
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i like the new famas, i hit the headshots more often than i used to
2020-04-21 21:57
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#94
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Sweden quacke
Same for me. It's a good gun now.
2020-04-21 22:05
Same here, Im hitting more hs with famas than m4 lol
2020-04-22 09:21
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Poland Kazk
You forgot mac 10
2020-04-21 19:01
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#25
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Sweden quacke
I did! It should be in good weapons imo. It's become very popular lately.
2020-04-21 19:22
Meh weapons: -Glock-18 -P2000 -M4A1-S -UMP-45 -Five-SeveN -CZ -Tec-9 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
2020-04-21 19:02
5 replies
He's drunk... half of those weapons are good
2020-04-21 19:02
4 replies
All the weapons in my list are good (prove me wrong)
2020-04-21 19:05
#26
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Sweden quacke
Thing is they are good on paper. They rarely see use. The 500$ pistols are not really worth it if you can do the same job with a P250, which is entirely possible, it's just down to learning a different gun and using it more smartly. The Glock is often complained about as weak compared to the USP, which I think makes sense. Not sure I would change anything about it, but it's weak and a lot of players really hate it. P2000 is entirely inferior to the USP even if it's a decent gun. I think for most of these weapons, them being Meh is not that they are bad guns, it's that there are other guns that do the job better. Why buy A1-S when the A4 is better, why buy UMP if the MP9 is better and only 50$ more, etc.
2020-04-21 19:24
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i dont understand the arg where p2k is worse than usp-s, even tho i dont use p2k, p2k on paper seems nice: same stats as usp-s, a bit worse accuracy, no silencer=tracers through smoke but a shorter gun barrel can hide yourself in some cubbies where you couldnt with the usp-s, 1 more bullet per mag, 2 more reserve mags
2020-04-21 21:58
UMP is arguably better due to the high damage input and armor penetration
2020-04-21 23:20
put a scope , suppressor and bipod on the M249
2020-04-21 19:03
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#27
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Sweden quacke
8/8
2020-04-21 19:25
Good old days with modern warfare
2020-04-21 19:31
1 reply
Felt the same
2020-04-21 21:53
#13
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United Kingdom p0mpouS
Very simple, give all guns 100% first shot accuracy and balance them out with damage fall off to remove some rng, make all weapons less accurate when moving and jumping but more accurate while standing.
2020-04-21 19:06
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#29
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Sweden quacke
You have a point, but if we're talking about making the guns balanced, then this change should make them all just as unbalanced as they are now, and it might have the unforseen consequence of making one more OP by mistake. I do think jumpshotting and such is ridiculous though.
2020-04-21 19:27
nt silver
2020-04-21 19:06
p90 is a meh weapon
2020-04-21 19:07
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#31
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Sweden quacke
It's hardly ever used anymore. If we're talking from a balance standpoint, in theory it should be used more, but something is obviously making people go for a different gun, whether it's the price or the bad kill reward.
2020-04-21 19:27
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#67
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United States Bioax
if p90 was lowered to something like $2050, then i think people would use it a lot more. may even surpass the famas.
2020-04-21 20:20
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#70
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Sweden quacke
#46 for more detail. Dropping it's price would probably be good, a more close range alternative to the FAMAS.
2020-04-21 20:28
P90> famas
2020-04-21 21:54
>famas >good weapon >glock >meh wtf silver
2020-04-21 19:14
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#42
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Sweden quacke
#24 and #26
2020-04-21 19:40
+1
2020-04-21 21:54
#18
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Poland Szcz
>bad weapon >negev
2020-04-21 19:17
2 replies
#32
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Sweden quacke
It's very situational. It's great for shutting down a rush down banana, but once you've done that it's basically useless. It's not a good offensive weapon imo, and that makes it less useful for retakes etc.
2020-04-21 19:28
+1 i did a ace in a forcebuy last week
2020-04-21 21:55
The majority of those "meh" weapons are fine
2020-04-21 19:19
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#33
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Sweden quacke
Thing is there are better alternatives. They have good stats and they are not necessarily underpowered, but for example with the A1-S it's almost always better to get the A4. What's the point of the A1 then? Valve aims for every gun in the game to have it's place and when there's a meta where only half or less of the guns are used, then I think they've failed.
2020-04-21 19:30
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Yeah but a lot of these do have their places in the meta. The CZ/57/Tec-9 are used virtually every game. There is no alternative to the glock so I have no idea why it's on there. The p2k is also fine, it's a viable alternative to the USP.
2020-04-21 19:32
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#69
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Sweden quacke
Check top comment for my opinion on the CZ. Thing is according to the current meta the USP is far superior, and the Glock is only useful on the pistol round. The alternative is buying a P250 for 300$. I think a possibility could be to give the Glock a higher armor pen. It's virtually useless in the mid-game while the USP is not nearly as weak. If the P2000 got a clear advantage over the USP, say higher mag-capacity at the expense of damage or something else would make it a viable alternative for the USP. In fact, for a lot of these different weapons where you need to trade one for the other I think an issue is there needs to be a clear choice to make to fit different playstyles, otherwise even having an alternative is useless and the one with better stats will always be chosen.
2020-04-21 20:27
the A4 needs to be a close range 1 shot hs, and the A1s price needs to be dropped even further imo
2020-04-21 19:20
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#35
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Sweden quacke
+1, maybe 2700 would be good. It would allow CTs to buy vest and M4 when they lose with full loss bonus, which I think is suitable. I think a problem is that you need to choose. Obviously the A4 is superior in almost every way, but some situations an A1 would be better. I think the real solution here is to give the A1 it's own slot.
2020-04-21 19:32
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yeah, maybe. I think 2700 is also a good price for the A1, but if the A1 was that low priced then you would need to do something to the A4 to make it worthwhile, thats why I suggest 1 shot hs at close range. what about an A1 slot, and then you have to choose between the A4 and AUG?
2020-04-21 19:34
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#44
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Sweden quacke
Yeah I agree with the A4 buff. Having to choose between A4 and AUG is probably a bad idea because they fill two very different slots. AUG is much more long range oriented while A4 is supposed to be the primary rifle of the CTs. If we're replacing any rifles in the buy wheel, I'd probably make the A1/FAMAS switch places. They could probably be played in a similar way. FAMAS is cheaper but weaker, but the A1 is closer to the main rifles. If nothing else, the buy-wheel has 6 slots, and we only have 5 rifles. It's not impossible.
2020-04-21 19:43
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the problem with that is that the famas is significantly cheaper than the A1, so it wouldnt make a ton of sense to switch them out
2020-04-21 19:44
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#49
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Sweden quacke
True, I think the 6th slot would be the best option. The A1 would bridge the gap between the FAMAS and A4. The way the economy is right now, if the CTs win a round and lose a lot of players in the process, they probably can't buy an A4, kevlar and utility. On the other hand, with a 3400 loss bonus and plant money, Ts can buy helmet AK and still have 500$ left for utility. Usually that means some CTs will have to compromise and buy a FAMAS, which puts them in a disadvantage, despite winning the previous round. The A1 would bridge that gap pretty beautifully.
2020-04-21 19:48
#30
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Serbia TheSerb
Deagle- make it 3 shots from close range too. Too many retards spraying and praying with the deag and hit a doubble body shot for a 700$ pistol that is op.
2020-04-21 19:27
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#38
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Sweden quacke
Interesting, I'm probably biased because I always seem to do 97 in 2 with the deagle so I can't really say lmao, but you have a point, it's a bit too useful for its price.
2020-04-21 19:33
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#53
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Serbia TheSerb
I allways die to body shots, i kinda forgot how a 1 deag feels to recive ppl just body shot it frustrates me so much man and im not a gold nova im global & lvl 7 faceit(i mean im not pro but okay skill) just nerf the shit it requires no actual skill from close range.
2020-04-21 19:51
hey p90 is good
2020-04-21 19:41
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#46
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Sweden quacke
On paper it's good. No one, at least in pro games, uses it. It's easily beaten by basically any rifle, and as for SMGs most people would rather buy an MP9 for half the price and double the kill reward. Despite its price I don't think the P90 is worth to buy instead of a rifle. It's also too expensive to buy on half-buys, if you want utility as well. It's kind of in a middle area that no one really uses.
2020-04-21 19:45
#47
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India FBI_raid
Mp9 good P90 bad Why?
2020-04-21 19:46
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#51
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Sweden quacke
#46 EDIT: MP9 is cheap, does a lot of damage per second, and has double the kill reward compared to the P90. P90 is expensive, does not give a lot of money, and it's usually better to buy Galil or FAMAS, they are cheaper.
2020-04-21 19:50
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#52
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India FBI_raid
Have you ever seen flusha using p90??
2020-04-21 19:50
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#54
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Sweden quacke
flusha and JW are an exception imo because they use weird weapons like R8 and Sawed-Off :) have you ever seen silvers?
2020-04-21 19:51
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#56
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India FBI_raid
Yea i ve seen silver rekting mg s using p90
2020-04-21 19:53
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#58
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Sweden quacke
I've seen ZF Cyanide knife NBK, that doesn't make him better than NBK
2020-04-21 19:53
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#62
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India FBI_raid
He is actually. #SovietWomble army
2020-04-21 19:55
#59
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India FBI_raid
Also self made pros cryimg why you use p90 🤣 come next i teach you n getting whooped again
2020-04-21 19:54
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#64
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Sweden quacke
Translate to english please??
2020-04-21 20:16
Negev God Tier u shitter
2020-04-21 19:55
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#65
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Sweden quacke
Too situational. #32
2020-04-21 20:17
3 replies
play it in situations then.
2020-04-21 21:35
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#72
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Sweden quacke
Being situational means it has a disasvantage in other situations. Weapons like the AK works well in every situation. Negev only works in very specific cases and is useless in many others. Same goes for other guns. Why buy Negev if I will maybe get one kill and then be useless for the rest of the round? While I can buy FAMAS or Galil and be much more flexible.
2020-04-21 21:44
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you can get one kill and switch weapon. Except you are bad and dont get kill.
2020-04-21 21:48
#68
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Kazakhstan Massaget
I think they need to remove both machine guns. No utility at all. If I had 2000$ (For primary weapon in particular) i would rather buy shotguns
2020-04-21 20:22
Wdym glock is meh. On pistol its literally 4237493479275327525928952 times better than usp
2020-04-21 21:45
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#79
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Sweden quacke
Debatable. And while USP is semi-useful outside of the pistol round, Glock is entirely useless.
2020-04-21 21:51
2 replies
how is usp better on pistol round then?
2020-04-21 21:52
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#93
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Sweden quacke
Again, debatable. I think they are pretty equal on pistol. Glock has lower damage, but more ammo. My point is the USP is better overall because it's more flexible in the late game.
2020-04-21 22:04
#74
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Denmark DeusDenK
negev is love negev is life mens))
2020-04-21 21:48
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#83
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Cyprus shmoe
you are right. he is wrong.
2020-04-21 21:53
#76
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Sweden Lagge15
A weapon can only be evaluated if you take price into account. For instance: if the AWP cost 2000 or had a 500 dollar kill award you'd be seeing it in more than 1 t-players hand If you take the "OP Krieg" pre-nerf and make it cost 4100 nearly nobody would use it.
2020-04-21 21:49
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#90
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Sweden quacke
+1 This is the real answer. I think 4100 might be a bit too hefty (it would mean most Ts would hardly be able to afford kevlar and utility). Somewhere between 3500 and 4000 would be ample imo. Kevlar and full utility costs 2200$, and adding 3500 on that adds up to 5700$, which is a lot for a terrorist unless they are on a roll.
2020-04-21 22:00
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#96
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah, my suggestion would've been something about 3600 to 3750 and maybe slightly change the unscopes accuracy as well as slower scoping. Then it would just be used as a specialised weapon, kinda like a mixture of AWP and rifle.
2020-04-21 22:14
Dual Berettas BESTEST WEAPON
2020-04-21 21:59
negev isnt bad lol
2020-04-21 22:01
bizon is actually in the meh-category
2020-04-21 22:02
I think dualllies are exactlyy how they should be right now. Maybe even lower bullet count a little bit.
2020-04-21 22:07
Fixed tier list Bestest (none of these need adjustments one way or another imo): P2K/USP Glock Five-SeveN Tec-9 CZ-75 Deagle MAC-10 MP9 UMP M4A4/A1-S AK-47 AWP MAG-7 Slightly Niche But Fine As Is: P250 MP7/5 FAMAS Galil AUG SSG 08 Nova XM1014 Slightly Niche and Needs Buff: SG 553 Very Niche But Fine As Is: P90 SCAR-20 G3SG1 Negev Very Niche And Needs Buff/Price Drop: Dual Berettas PP-Bizon Never Viable: R8 M249 And then the Sawed-Off gets its own tier because you might think it's never viable, but hostage maps exist and improving it to be viable as a T-side weapon on any defusal map would just break it for that so
2020-04-21 22:14
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#99
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United States krawfish23
sawed-off on office > anything else
2020-04-21 22:16
#101
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Sweden quacke
Good list, I think you've rated them fairly well. I think the issue with having a "very niche" weapon is that it's too niche. Flexibility is a stat people rarely take into account when talking about weapon balance. It's quite simple, why should I spend 300$ more on a Krieg if I can get 90% of the same kills with an AK? Same goes for P90, why spend 2350 on a rush weapon when I can either spend 1050 on a slightly worse rush weapon (MAC-10), or spend 1800 on a weapon better for holding angles (Galil)? Niche weapons do have a place in the game, of course, much like the SSG 08. Unless you're hitting some insane headshots you're not gonna be using it the same way as an AWP, and that's why it's so much cheaper. It is, however, incredibly useful for tagging down opponents quickly. On a half buy or force, getting one or two players down to 30 HP can be crucial for getting SMG kills. It's a great support weapon, even if it is very niche. Weapons like the Nova may be niche in the way of "only useful for close range", but there are other weapons that do that and more for a similar price tag. Example: You're playing the apartments balcony on Inferno. Your responsibility is to hold the aps-push, and maybe short. The gun is great for that. But say they take B? Whether you're engaging from Banana or CT Spawn, you're at a disadvantage against SMGs and rifles. If you instead bought an MP9, you might not be able to dish out the same one hit headshots in aps, but you can still get the frags. And on the retake you can take the gun on the offensive and it's still a viable gun. What I'm saying is that some guns need to have their own "gimmick" if you will, to actually make them useful. I don't think this was kept in mind when classic CS was designed 20 years ago, and they just threw ideas at the wall and saw what stuck. Since then it's been roughly like this, and it hasn't changed.
2020-04-21 22:24
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The Nova is fine simply on the merit of being as cheap as possible and giving that big cash reward, I personally think it's underused, not underpowered for what it is. And the P90 is fine because if it got buffed or price dropped, it would be cancer
2020-04-21 22:30
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#106
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Sweden quacke
The P90 is interesting because it's in a little category of its own. It's an SMG priced as a cheap rifle with the rifle kill reward, but too expensive to be bought instead of an MP9/MAC-10/literally any other SMG. Hell you could even buy a Scout or Galil/FAMAS and probably get more value out of it. I honestly don't know how to fix it and as much as I don't want it to be removed I think there's no real way to fix it.
2020-04-21 22:32
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The P90 is there for if you have plenty of money but still want an SMG It fires as fast as an MP9 and is much easier to control, and I think it would ruin CS if they made it more viable
2020-04-21 22:36
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#108
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Sweden quacke
The thing is, why is it outside the meta then? It's been unchanged for ages yet in high level play it's completely unused. Something is making it inferior to other guns (and it isn't stats), and I'm having a hard time coming up with what it is.
2020-04-21 22:38
6 replies
Price and kill reward It's a niche gun and it should stay niche
2020-04-21 22:39
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#110
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Sweden quacke
Well it's obviously too niche for anyone to use it. Which I think is to say it's not necessarily underpowered, but out of balance.
2020-04-21 22:43
4 replies
I've seen it used a couple times
2020-04-21 22:45
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#112
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Sweden quacke
I'd say for a weapon that's supposed to "fill a hole in the meta" then "a couple times" is too little.
2020-04-21 22:46
2 replies
You don't understand I want it to be there, as is. I think it's fine. I don't want it to be commonly used, and I think even slight tweaks would break it and ruin the strategy of CSGO worse than the krieg or aug
2020-04-21 22:49
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#114
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Sweden quacke
Could be. I think there could be tweaks here and there.
2020-04-21 23:10
#131
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United States Bioax
I agree with this list, but the r8 can be viable on eco rounds (but you don't get the deagle). The R8 is a pistol scout for $600, and can even one shot to the body without kevlar. It can cause lots of damage if used correctly, but if you are good with the deagle, then don't switch.
2020-04-22 14:04
Kliksphilip made a video about the update and talks about/with someone that mada a document and mod or something with all changes he think should be made to balance all weapons
2020-04-21 23:12
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#118
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Sweden quacke
SlothSquadron. He's made an in-depth video (maybe even a few videos) about the mod. You should really check it out, it's a good mod.
2020-04-21 23:51
Remove the fucking head dink animation so the M4 can 2 tap properly
2020-04-21 23:26
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#119
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Sweden quacke
+11111¹111¹1111111¹
2020-04-21 23:52
buff ideas sawed off - huge movement speed buff pls no reason to move like a dying turtle while holding it mp7 - increase accuracy or damage mp5 - same as mp7 but to a lesser degree m249 - make it oneshot head any range and more accurate / easier spray (could be like a last round buy similar to autosnipers) UMP - decrease dmg falloff R8 - more ammo, more accuracy while moving maybe? Nova - increase that armor penetration HARD, maybe damage too, maybe also make u move slower holding it than a sawed off? P90 - add a difficult spray to it so it stops being a dumb crutch for silvers and increase kill reward sg553 - revert the accuracy back to what it was, keeping the firerate at 545 famas burst - faster firerate while firing (no cooldown decrease)/ less recoil a1s without silencer - a tiny bit more overall accuracy than with it glock burst - a bit less recoil/inaccuracy usp without silencer - boosted accuracy while spamming/decrease accuracy on first shot (makeshift p2000 with less ammo) nerf ideas deagle - decrease damage to remove 2 shot dickshot mac10/mp9 - a bit less accurate while running and gunning maybe? i am bored :(
2020-04-22 05:27
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#121
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Sweden quacke
+1 for a lot of these, I think MP9/MAC-10 are fine as is, also I think the solution for the Glock is more armor penetration.
2020-04-22 09:06
Make ump easier to spray and it will be as good as mp9. P90: Increase the spread, same for negev Krieg: Just go back to the previous version but make it 3500 so that T cant fucking buy it at the 2nd round
2020-04-22 09:24
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#130
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Sweden quacke
+1 except for P90 and Negev, they don't exactly need a nerf, they are almost unused at this point.
2020-04-22 10:58
negev bestest weapon
2020-04-22 09:24
#126
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Australia HighRate
SG is not a meh weapon its a bad weapon. No pro will use until its buffed
2020-04-22 09:27
TEC-9 is a good weapon
2020-04-22 10:36
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