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this guy is so stupid and ignorant i dont have words
people who voted for him should be ashamed
erdogan cuz radical muslim
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you are not muslim?
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i am atheist mens))
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smart turk mens))
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Belonging to any religion is not idiotic thing, so you are not smart when you are an atheist. I'm not just talking about Islam.
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peoples are need to believe something even Allah even Jesus even Brahma
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nah religion is poison.
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Imagine saying religion is poison and living in a time with technology so advanced as it is today.
If religion was poison wouldn't we be still living in mud huts ? (depends in the religion also xp)
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you can ingest poison and still live, yes?
progress and innovation has always come despite religion putting down the brakes hard, but it has always come. i can only imagine the frustration of people like galileo galilei who were victims of great injustice while being right, but the opposition basically retorted everything he said by just doing this "nuh-uh, i have this book that i really like and it disagrees with you so you must be wrong."
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What ? Read a fucking book before talking trash.
Galileo wasn't punished because he went against the Church.
Galileo was punished because at the time there were SCIENTIFIC PROOF that the sun rotated the Earth. (If you use the tecnology that they had at that time you would also have that "proof".)
Galileo started to go against the Bible without having any proof of what he was saying. Therefore the Pope (who had talked to Galileo many times before) had to call it heresy because he had the Holy Book AND the scientific proof that Galileo was wrong.
Go and search for Parallax Effect, you uncultured swine
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calling me an uncultured swine when most of the statements you've just made a manifestly wrong and have no historical support.
i can just call them lies, because that's what they are. they may not be your lies, but someone obviously came up with them. maybe some school teacher who was/is obviously motivated with an overly religious agenda-- wanting to protect the faith or some shit.
how do i know? i read some fucking books and i see you're just talking trash when the first statement you made in #801 is a lie --> he was absolutely punished because he went against the church and it turns out he was RIGHT.
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Not only you don't know what you are talking about, you also don't know how to read.
There were SCIENTIFIC PROOF that supported the geocentric model.
Galileo refuted that idea without any support.
He didn't came up to the scientific community with definitive proof.
Again, read a fucking book before talking shit.
Go and learn about the Parallax Effect and how scientists of the time "knew" that the Heliocentric model was wrong.
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it's amusing that you're telling me "to look up this thing or do that" all the while you can't actually refute me. why should i go look it up when you can just refute me by actually proving it to me? (and you probably can't anyway you just claim i don't know any better)
i did catch you in a lie, though and that makes everything you say suspect.
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Yeah, you just don't want to read and acknowledge that you're wrong about Galileo.
This is my last reply.
He wasn't absolutely punished because he went against the church.
He was punished because he went against the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OF THE GEOCENTRIC THEORY.
He went against the science world at the time.
There were a stablished theory, Geocentrism, with SOLID SCIENTIFIC PROOF that also supported the scriptures.
He didn't just went against the scriptures, he went against the scientific proven theory which supported the scriptures WITHOUT disproving the proofs of Geocentrism.
He was punished NOT just because he went against the church. He was punished because he had no proof of what he was saying and couldn't proove that the Geocentric theory was wrong, therefore it was considered heresy (as well has scientific wrong)
You call flat earthers stupid because we have prove that the earth is round and they can't prove that the earth isn't round.
BUT you call Galileo a martyr when back that the scientific world had PROOF that the Geocentric theory was correct and Galileo could NOT prove that the Geocentric Theory was not correct...
Again, this is my last reply since you refuse the idea that you might be wrong, therefore you don't even read what I say and you don't even do your own research on the matter.
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You recall incorrectly.
The Heliocentism Theory was forbidden until 1758.
What you may be recalling is Pope Jonh Paul II declaring that the Church made a mistake by punishing Galileo.
Again, there were proof that Geocentrism was correct and Galileo said it was not, even with scientific PROOF that Geocentrism was correct.
The Pope at the time allowed him to publish his theory with the condition that he declared that it was only a theory and not the Truth.
Galileo went behind the Pope and published it saying that Heliocentrism was correct and geocentrism wrong.
And that's why Galileo was punished.
Not because "nuh-uh, i have this book that i really like and it disagrees with you so you must be wrong."
There were SCIENTIFIC PROOF that Geocentrism (and the scriptures) was correct. Look up the parallax effect.
Only with the discoveries of new and better telescopes, scientists could confirm Galileo findings, because with the technology of the time one could only "assume" not visually prove, unlike the geocentrism model which at the time was visually proven (due to the lack of better telescopes - See Parallax Effect)
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opinion - "evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement."
so they didnt have any proof, just hypothesis xd
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"evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement." - This is not the definition of an opinion, what the actual fuck XD
They had the same kind of hypothesis as todays proven "theories"
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proof*
"They had the same kind of hypothesis as todays proven "theories" you dont understand scientific method lol
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They had scientific proof that the Sun went around Earth with the scientific tools of the time.
SCIENTIFIC PROOF.
And todays "proven" theories can be false tomorrow. Because they are "true" with todays scientific tools.
And you come here saying that I don't understand the scientific method XD wtf
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not only in regards of technology but also in regard to human rights, society etc
Not all Muslim countries. Some are more advanced than a lot of western countries too.
What
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We wouldn't be so scientific advanced without religion
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XD nice oxymoron
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Yeah, it would be a good opinion if you had any argument to support it
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oxymoron is not even an opinion lol
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In your opinion that was an oxymoron.
And it would be a good opinion if you had any argument to support it.
i mean, your point makes sense, it makes me think of asimov's robots book where it discuses a robot's odd belief in a higher being, yet it still gets its job all the same for the sake of this great being. we are similar in a sense, but at this point in our civilization should it really be as paraded as it is? I say we let it be, but at the same time in a lot of cases it is a bad thing.
most of people saying so are teenager fresh atheists
I don't believe in god (lost belief) and I wish i didn't lose it , probably I would have fought a lot of depression/ shit situations throughout my life better
anyway, messi for instance has a tattoo of jesus lol imagine saying that messi isn't smart :v
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thing with islam is that compared to say, christianity or judaism is that what is considered moderate christian in christianity is a bad muslim in islam. it's a problem. you've probably seen many of the polls of muslims who were asked would they advocate for sharia and the numbers don't make a good case for the mild-moderate muslim.
now with that said there are reformers, but they have their work cut out for them. the liberal elite in the west hates them and the conservative muslims in western countries and in islamic countries hate then even more. it's a problem.
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even if he is muslim so what? there are levels for believing in your religion, he said that the president was radical and thats the point in the statement , not that he is just muslim but radical muslim.... My president is a radical Jew and Im jewish too and I have a problem with my president, what? now you are shocked ?
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yes mens, even adnan menderes is better than erdogan))))
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name checks out
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OK GROOMER
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turks in turkey love him too. and many muslims around the world too.
go lick the dicks of christians which they will never accept you in the european union haha
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you need to learn that muslims are not only arabs. you as a turk are muslim too you asshat
Obvious choice +1
Also because of him supporting that football club
Jozef Tiso
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maybe, but he still held the title. horthy was in the austro-hungarian navy, as a real admiral
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no president
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Don't know worst but best is Jan P. Syse
smart brazilian
btw for france idk bro
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François Mitterrand
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Mitterrand is a sneaky bastard, elected under the socialist party flag but with a right heart. He did shady stuff and took bad decision but he did it with class and guts.
Francois hollande destroyed the state, fucked his leftist voter base, implemented extreme right crowd control tools and applied the economical program of the right. This guy ended being hated by 96% of the country (it's an actual poll) and worst of all, he introduced Rothschild bank into the highest sphere of the republic (Macron). Now Macron is just selling everything public to his friends/clients and remove all the taxes for his billionaire supports.
Unemployment is skyrocketing, investment is really low but profits and dividends are the sweetest in the world. In less than 8 years France became a banana republic in the hands of a few bankers and industrials who make cash out of public money. State level robbery organized by a little cartel
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tl;dr
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socialist presidents are bad
Francois Holland ?
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vincent schopenhauer
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Xi Jinping
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yeah, the guy before Xi Jinping seemed alright even though he was still an authoritarian leader (forgot his name btw)
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deep
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When he said "Ching Chong Woo Dong Koo" i felt that
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same fam 🙏
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youtube.com/watch?v=oWCCnOkODok&t=13s
felt his so hard when he said "he tjing hon tjing"
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he hit that shao wi shoung ju wang yu hard
Are you sure? There's Chinese president worse than him? No president who's responsible for millions of deaths? No president who caused a massacre in a specific square?
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lets just admit every Chinese president is bad
Mao is bae wtf u on about kid
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Never said Mao and Deng were the same people. I just pointed out some things that they did.
Not Mao?
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but if i had to choose one it's gotta be iliescu,or ceausescu ofc.
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wtf
Viktor Yanukovych
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fakeflagger go in russia where is better if you think so.
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wtf is 0/8 then?
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1 dollar was 8 hryvnia even before him.
Read wikipedia about his past being a president in Ukraine.
Stole country money, fucked up army and gone in Russia with money he stole. Great president nt.
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imagine president going in other country because he is "scared that someone wants to kill him".
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K. mb not, but gone in Russia for sure.
You are retarded. What exactly changed because hrivna fell? Prices rose and so did salaries. It’s absolutely the fucking same lmao
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What a retard lmao. I live in Ukraine and I can confirm that you’re one of the idiots that blame everything on the government. Just move to russia with these numbers you’re pulling out of your damn ass. You’d be a decent putinist propagandist.
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Are you from this planet? even dumb asshole knows that in 2014 at least old people could pay for their flats, and now they can't because Poroshenko is stupid dog who ruined this country
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ru.slovoidilo.ua
That explains a lot about you, mr brainwashed trash. I will discontinue talking to you
This guy was hilarious
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obama barack
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I’m not saying anyone you listed is good, but all of them are wayyyy better than the true worst. Buchanan is hands down the worst president in US history. The man sat and watched as the country became divided, ended up doing nothing. I mean how on earth could he think it’s a good idea to use the constitution as an argument when the north was arguing the constitution needed to be amended? He is heavily responsible for the civil war too, so I don’t see any way he isn’t the absolute worst president in history.
Trump?
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Yeah move to there and after they been racists with you
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We don't think about you guys at all.
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This thread is older than your mom why reply? Trump is a massive retard tho. If president actually had all the power usa (or even the world) would be a mess right now.
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it was trending i didnt look at date. he's done a lot America wise. he has also helped with peace between us and russia. north korea and between middle eastern countries. He has somewhat hurt relations with EU countries because of him forcing more money to come from those nations
sure he might be a massive retard but that massive retard is doing a lot of great things.
bronisław "shogun" komorowski
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Duda better?
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Well ofc, i bet random hltv user would be better than komorowski.
That dude had problems with polish orthography (ofc it can be hard for someone, but shouldn't be for our president) or while visiting Japan, he literally screamed "come here shogun" to japanese prime minister, ofc in polish, cause that's the only one language he knows.
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duda is best
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Lars Løkke
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Helle Thorning?
Mette F?
Stauning was goat
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It could be Anders Fogh imo. Forced Denmark to war in Iraq and Afghanistan on false bases. Plus he killed the Danish welfare system
All danish politicians are smart
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Both Fogh and Thorning were worse
Too many to list.
Top 8 are (not in order)
Warden G Harding
Woodrow Wilson
Andrew Johnson
George W Bush
Ronald Reagan
Donald Trump
Jimmy Carter
Barack Obama
All 8 are garbage.
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Obama is gonna fade into obscurity as a mediocre, status quo president over time. In the grand scheme of things he wasn't good or bad, just extremely mediocre with no real legacy.
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thats what happens when you use executive orders instead of legislation to enact your agenda. The next president can just use an EO to undo it all.
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I can't blame him for that, it's not like Republicans wanted to pass anything.
He just had such a huge opportunity in '08 to restructure the financial system, instead he bailed them out and here we are...
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Same with democrats now.
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The deficit spiked during his first few years, then he managed to bring it down year after year. If Obama was still president we could easily be looking a deficit of 0.
Dodd Frank was a mixed bag, it was bad especially for smaller banks which didn't have a lot of regulatory compliance staff. It's no Glass-Steagal, but it did help mitigate some of issues that caused the '08 crisis.
Most, if not all, of his wars were inherited, he didn't enter many if any wars.
I can't really take your last paragraph seriously. Even Fox News wouldn't dare paint Trump as some champion of black people against police brutality. At best he's provided them jobs, but he's done that for everyone, not just black people.
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Ty mr.based germany. A lot of Americans never see the positive things trump does because the media blocks it all out. Its straight up propaganda over here with fox, cnn, msnbc and all that garbage. All the millionaires/corporations/ceos here are paying off lobbyists, congress and producers to push their agendas and screw over the American people. Trump's at least trying to combat them.
Yeah no big wars, no terrorism, just peace and employment. Lol
90% of his drone strike victims were innocent, google "Obama 90%"
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A few years after Glass-Steagall was repealed, the dot com bubble burst, then '08 crisis a few years after that.
Glass-Steagall provided over half a century of financial stability. Definitely one of the worst decisions ever by a president to repeal it.
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I agree that repealing Glass-Steagal wasn't a good decision. But, was Bill Clinton the worst President, nah.
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Well when you take people like wilson who globally didnt do that much damage, only thing i can think of that really is his fault is that he let french humiliate the germans in Versailles basically put Hitler to pover but he isnt even directly responsible for the Versailles treaty, so why is one of the worst? Also i mentioned clinton because he deserves to be on that list.
-Obama
+Buchanan
see #33 for why -obama
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Isn’t he the drone strike president
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every president since ww2 has been a drone strike president
Obama particularly is mocked for it because for some reason he was given a nobel peace prize
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I forgot about him.
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Why would affiliate myself with Libtards. Back to the jungle braindead rat. And what I said are facts. All 8 are shit.
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how can you have people like RR, trump, carter, and even obama on this list when you are missing people like NIXON, buchanan, franklin pierce
even presidents like benjamin harrison, herbert hoover, zachary taylor, william mckinley, and clinton were worse than these
trump, carter, and obama havent been nearly as bad
Then again have to give you a plus for writing woodrow wilson. Somehow he is normally only on top 10 worst lists from people who have actually read a bit more in depth
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I put him on the list due to him indirectly being the cause of the rise of Hitler and the USSR along with other shit.
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You should read more into it. He also supported eugenics, segregated his federal work force and segregated black people + make them lose their jobs. He screened the birth of a nation movie in the white house which basically legitimized the movie and revived the ku klux klan since wilson was a believer of the "lost cause" which is like being a flat earther.
And he created the federal reserve system to replace the central bank that gave it a lot more power and made it more independent from the government...
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There really arent any good American presidents, they have all been terrible.
Best one probably Willam Henry Harrison, who served only 32 days and thus had the least time to be awful. As a person he was a total piece of shit and a monster so no doubt he would've made a terrible one if he was given the time.
I agree, but Trump isn't as bad because he has no ideas he's trying to implement, and the stakes aren't particularly high right now. Thank God for that. People say he mishandled Coronavirus, and that's true to an extent, but dumbass Americans are mainly to blame. He'll still go down as one of the worst presidents of all time due to inaction, division, and poor critical thinking.
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Still better than the previous president.
Lets see what did obama do... His response to wall street bs was massive bailouts and the dodd-frank act that failed to stop the banks from becoming even bigger.
He then signed the Obama care bill which launched with no public option on a website that didnt work.
Expanded the drone program rather than shutting it down by adding signature strikes (killing people when we dont know who they are), and double taps (which literally just kills first responders)
He even failed to support blacks even tho he was the first black president. Police brutality against blacks were the highest when he was in the office and he turned a blind eye. Trump has done a lot more for black people in America than Obama and the average president.
Also obama went into multiple useless wars, took too long to withdraw, and he passed on TPP which trump at least blocked
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Yes, his bailouts and drone policy are the main points of criticism. The lack of public option was because a congressman literally said he would filibuster if it was present, and it wouldn't have passed otherwise. Obamacare was still a pretty big net-positive.
Everything you said was fair until : Trump has done a lot more for black people in America than Obama and the average president.' Seriously, what are you talking about?
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I wont write everything he has done but heres a bit:
answered the pleas of HBCU presidents and approved Pell Grants year-round, a simple request obama ignored for his whole presidency.
Provided HBCUs a permanent-funding stream, worked with private companies to offer apprenticeships to their students and directed NASA to recruit HBCU enrollees seeking space-related careers.
Five weeks into his presidency, Trump opened a White House office to assist Historically Black Colleges and Universities.
Reauthorized and funded Washington, D.C.’s school-voucher program (75 percent of whose beneficiaries are low-income black kids) which obama fought to kill.
Signed first step act in december 2018.
Also the black below the poverty line, black american unemployment / jobless rate was at a historical low during trumps presidency before coronavirus
This is too affected by recency bias. In the grand scheme of things, Obama, Reagan and Jimmy Carter were pretty average, with the latter arguably being the least competent.
James Buchanan needs to be there.
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so forgotten that I didn’t even bother putting his name.
I didn't expect Reagan, Carter, and Obama to be on the same list.
Lol people that think Trump was worse than Obama are so low IQ and ignorant it's hilarious.
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technically he is. Trump's nothing more than an incompetent zionist fraud.
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Well no technically he isn't Obama took Americas wars from two, that were started by bush, to seven, Obama started five wars and caused Libya to become a failed state where there now exists massive amounts of black slavery, how ironic is that first black US president creates the most black slavery since the act was abolished in the country. Also tried to pass the TPP, which would have lost Americans a load of jobs to China, bailed out the large backs, cracked down on whistle blowers harder than any president before or since he was in power, tried to manipulate foreign votes like Brexit by basically lying and saying if Britain left the EU we would be in the back of the queue when it comes to trade, Britain being one of America's closest allies. Like sorry but you're mentally deficient if you think Trump, who is just a dick, which is the only reason people don't like him is worse than Obama who put on a nice suit for the cameras but in the background was straight up dropping ten times more bombs on the middle east than George Bush did, also tried to escalate tensions between Russia and America so he could attack Syria in order to get that oil pipe line from the middle east to the EU
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guess I forgot to clarify, in domestic decision making.
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Well no Trump's better there too, improved the economy, where Obama stagnated it and bailed out the big banks with tax payer money, Obama made a ship healthcare bill which was basically a blow job to the health insurance companies but didn't stop them from denying services to people for preexisting conditions. Obama did nothing for the black community where as Trump dropped black unemployment to it's lowest levels in over 50 years. Obama failed to close Guantanamo Bay which was one of his main campaign promises, that's a facility that is literally torturing people off the coast of America. Obama increased the powers of the patriot act that was passed by George Bush and increased funding to the NSA which is an anti-constitutional agency that spies on American citizens. Obama tried to passed unconstitutional laws that made it legal for universities to make it easier for black people to get into university and harder for Asians. You're simply wrong again
See when your only argument is orange man bad and you fail to do any research on the topic you look kind of stupid when you try to say he's worse than Obama, I can think of a few issues where Trump was terrible because I actually research these things and take in information before I talk about them unlike you who seems to just click on their favourite progressive or corporate news outlet and just repeat what they say because you can't think for yourself. also the TPP and nafta were awful decisions that Obama did pass in the case of Nafta and tried to pass in the case of the TPP
I wouldn't even say that Obama is even close to the worst either but saying trump is is just so retarded. Like so unbelievably brain dead orange man bad thinking. Here's an easy one for you, George Bush, fucking awful president.
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And you just discredited your entire comment with making assumptions about me. I despise corporate media and progressive media, they're all garbage. I actually want them to get shutdown and eradicated for their damage to America. Guess I should've clarified more. And I fucking know that cause I FUCKING wanted Bush fucking dead for him crashing the economy and for the pointless forever wars. If you've spent enough time here on threads relating to bullshit like this, you would've seen how often I criticized and trashed both sides to oblivion. And I do way more fucking research than you'd think.
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No I didn't everything I stated was fact and then I insulted you because I don't like stupid people and you're clearly a stupid person because you think Trump is "worse" than Obama and couldn't provide an argument as to why and now you're trying to worm your way out of it because you know I'm right, you know you're wrong and it's obvious to anyone that this is the case and this isn't About George Bush this is about you saying Trump is worse than Obama, which proves you clearly don;t do much research at all plus even a four year old could grasp that George Bush is a terrible president so you figuring it out doesn't really matter.
So basically no good presidents in 21st century?
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Palme and Erlander are the best ones we've had. I'm thinking that Åkesson can be one of the best as well if he gets elected and takes the post over Kristersson.
Reinfeldt has been our worst by far, he let loads of migrants in and lowered the taxes at the cost of our social safety and state owned enterprises (which is what we should kept and sold before or during economic crises).
Olof palme one of the bset lol
trump
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Well you definitely are delusional, maybe even deranged, you got that TDS
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You really wanna compare Lulão da massa with bozossauro??????? Are you fuck you?
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Bro, stop sucking politicians. Lula was sentenced to prison, all of them are shit as fuck. Sarney destroyed our economy. Collor stole our savings. Lula was responsible for the worst corruption scandal in human history. Dilma is the most retarded woman in our country. Bolsonaro is a fucking facist. All shit, if you think some of them are good, you are gado.
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sentenced without evidence and only for political reasons (you may belive he's corrupt, but there is just no evidence. On the other hand there's a lot of evidence that what Moro did was political)
Dilma's goverment was terrible, that's for sure
Lula had the best results in history, and of course there was a lot of shit and "aparelhamento" going on in his goverment, but still were the best results
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i'm just saying how much the economy has grown in his goverment, and how many people came out of extreme poverty
And being you can't sentence someone because you're "sure" his guilty, you need the evidence
on the other hand, we have a LOT of evidence of Sergio Moro's corruption
i'm not saying that lula is a good guy, just talking about the economy numbers and
how his process had political goals
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Omg, I think you're being cheated by someone. There were prescription drugs for Lula on the farm, T-shirts and tables with his name on them, toys for his grandchildren, etc ... Not to mention the apartment, the Lula Institute, the 2005 mensalão and dozens of witnesses. With regard to economic growth, this is questionable, of course Brazil has grown, but have many people really come out of poverty or was it all data manipulation and political propaganda as we all know?
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i know about those T- shirts, but his things being there does not prove it belong to him (and i belive the farm DOES belong to him) especialy when he says that a "friend lend to him"
about the mensalão, if you want to know the history, here a video with some source in it: youtube.com/watch?v=slfbZA7-qv4
abou the apartment, moro shown a document that was in lula's home, but it had no signature
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Lula innocence proof kkkkkk
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The Swiss pib will always be smaller than the Brazilian one, so I don't really care about that. Any economist knows that Brazil could be much better without the obstacles of the PT government, we have more labor laws in Brazil than in the rest of the world combined, and then, is Brazil the best country to work in? i don't think so.
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GDP is a fucking terrible measure of how well a country is doing. Taking care of your people through i.e. healthcare and education will have zero impact on the GDP. But cutting down and burning Amazon will make it sky rocket even though what you are essentially doing is destroying your country (and dooming humanity to climate change destruction)
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Moro is a corrupt piece of shit. Silva was innocent at least compared to the right wing bozos that got him locked up.
Only reason that Bolsonaro won was jailing Silva
+1 LOL
Silva was amazing compared Shittenaro
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But he looks funny
Only one trash president(((
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Lukashenko xD
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loolll
Soon no more :D
#FreeBelarus
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+1 can confirm this guy is retarded, worse than zapatero
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Expected from Movistar Riders dumb hater kkkkkkkkkkkkk
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worst roster move i have seen in a long time, fuck the org
In the UK it's The Queen or Prime Minister. We never had Presidency, as far as I'm aware... just royalty.
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Probably should just choose one you dislike in this or the past century.
Personally I dislike Neville Chamberlain due to his inactivity in what led to the second world war.
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I choose not to be involved with politics, so I cannot really not comment.
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Understandable. It usually goes bad
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Wtf this is bullshit, Churchill was much worse and Thatcher too
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Churchill was a racist megalomanical and genocidal murderer
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Yes it does my comrade, yes it does.
It's Thatcher
also most overrated (but not worst) is Churchill
All idiots
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Was he the one who sold out Norway to the Nazis?
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Ah okay, that's what I thought. Quisling Is a slang/synonym for one who commits treason here.
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Not a real prime minister
But by far the worst, yes
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Valéry Giscard d'Estaing*
Berzins
Monrad was a leading danish politician around 1850, and prime minister in 1864, when Denmark got into a war with Prussia and Austria over the provinces Slesvig & Holstein. The nationalists, and Monrad in particular, had misread the situation, that led to war, defeat and the loss of 1/3 of danish territory.
It might have happened anyway, as Bismarck was in the proces of uniting the german speaking dukedoms into one country, Germany, but Denmark could have avoided war and kept more land, if Monrad had been a bit smarter.
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Videla:
poverty in 1974 (peron): between 3% and 6%
poverty in 1982 (libertarian dictators, neoliberals): 40%
external debt in 1974 (peron): 5000 million dolars
external debt 1982 (libertarian dictators, neoliberals): 44000 million dolars
1982 (libertarian dictators, neoliberals): Lost War for saving margaret thatcher
sources:
telam.com.ar/notas/201509/118779-argenti..
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Buchanan ez
people will say Obama or Trump but neither have done anything that will be remembered 100 years from now, good or bad
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Andrew Johnson worst if you’re a liberal
Abe Lincoln worst if you’re a racist
I personal go with Abe Lincoln :)
Kaczynski
bolsonaro
HAAHAAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHAH OMG YOU'RE SAYING THAT BOLSONARO IS WORST THAN LULA? OMG I DONT BELIEVE IM READING IT. You can think that bolsonaro is not good but worst than the biggest political thief that Brazil have ever had, a fucking thief that formed a gang and stole billions, he was arrested and if the justice here was not so weak he would still be in prison.
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Putin
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Stalin better than Putin? LOL
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"president"
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lol ok, putin is a dictator just like Stalin though
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yeah
Boris Yelstin?
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Yeltsin was better, cuz he cared a bit about people, of course he was bad but not as bad as putin
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You surely don't know shit that used to happen under Yelstin, bro :).
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this is conan o'briens cousin?
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I remember the episode when he went to Finland
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best Tv host from NA
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We don't have a president in my country so this thread is dumb
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That's extremely racist and completely unacceptable in 2020. I identify as a citizen of the strong and free nation of Canada. We should make a thread where we only talk about Canadian stuff and see how they feel about it
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Can I be your president ?
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Well you're bilingual so that's something. Can you start next Tuesday?
Obama.
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Nice meme post
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+400IQ
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i dont know anything more useless than the queen and the whole royal family
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bruv shes alright bruv?
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imagine calling people who watch the project communists, nice comparison
care to elaborate on your second sentence?
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you gonna replay or ignore? kkkkk
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TBH if he would call me "traitor", without looking at age or gender I'd beat him to hell. I hate that word being used easily nowadays.
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i am on your side :)
Woodrow Wilson
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Eltsin was a lot worse imho
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I'm only 16 xd, I just learned a lot about him from my history course at school and from the other sources
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I don't think that it makes Putin worse than Eltsin.
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That's true idk why the fuck Putin is still the president. The worst thing about him now is just lack of progress or changes that we have.
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Putin,Medvedev,Yeltilsin...more like the whole Russian Federation government
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Who's your best president? Imo it's Gorbachev.
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I Think its Breznev maybe,he wasn't dumb like Chrushev and wasn't cruel like Stalin
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Khruschev and Stalin weren't presidents actually..
Gorbachev was shit, best obviously Lenin
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Get the fuck out, retard.
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Lenin is a fucking hero, shut the fuck up kid
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I hope people like you will get erased from Earth, if you're not baiting.
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Im not baiting you fucking little dumb kid, what has Lenin ever done except good? He is a freaking hero and a genius. Made Russia into one of the greatest countries on earth. Dumb bitch learn your history... Improved the life of millions and inspired revolution all around the world.
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Dumb bitch, don't teach me history of my country and nation. He started a thing which caused millions of deaths, genocides and miseries around the world. Go move to Vietnam and live your happy life there reading Pol Pot's manifestos, hope you will get the same fate as the people of 20th century Cambodia.
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Nope, he lead a revolution that got rid of the bourgeoisie scum that was raping the nation and its people. He started a global movement towards communism and improved the lives of millions and millions of people.
You are some kid, if you ask people who actually lived under communism in Russia they can tell you how much better it was than today. Capitalism is a cancer, Lenin did more than anyone to get rid of it and bring us closer to the utopia.
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You sure know better, keep going.
Medvedev WTF? Best since Davydenko
did he recover from corona ?
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Celal Bayar and Democrat Party government as a whole. (1950-60)
What i read about their era Turkey's foreign policy disgusts me.
"We are going to make Turkey a little America"
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i actually like celal bayar as politician he's definitely not in the worsts category cuz no one can blame him when soviets are in your door being allied with america was a must back then
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Yeah, I am not blaming them for choosing USA's side. I would also do the same.
But they did much more than they had to.
Letting USA use NATO bases for their own benefit and interest, not NATO's, building the economy depending on foreign economic aids coming from USA and so on.
This is one of the main reasons Muslim world didnt like us. They considered us as USA's puppet and they were right about it.
Foreign policy of Turkey in '50-'60 is a disgrace.
Amerikan zırhlısı geliyor diye kerhaneleri boyatmak nedir amk.
trump
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Putin
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RiP bro
- Bolsonaro
- Dilma
- Sarney
- Color
- Michel Temer
- Fernando Henrique Cardoso
- Lula
- Itamar Franco
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What
Bolsonaro aka FILHO DA PUTA DO CARALHO
pretty safe to say Hitler i guess
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Thread is about the WORST not the BEST president. l2r
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no men hes good he makes cars and fantas mens))
Ukraine:
Kravchuk and Zelensky. Yuschenko too.
I only like kuchma and poroshenko.
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Lol your worst president is Yanukovich.
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nope
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No? He f*cked Ukraine so hard and asked Putin to use his army against Ukraine. You lost many people on Maidan because of him and thousands of Ukrainians died on Donbass and partly in Crimea because of Yanukovich was a puppet of Putin.
you're fake flagger or 20 iq, not sure
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I just don't care about him, he is irrelevant today. He did many bad things, though.
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The question was:
"Worst president in your country's history?"
so the fact he is irrelevant doesn't matter at all. He was by fact the worst one for you.
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+1 he was one of those who started the bullshit in ukraine basically
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Probably because he promised a lot of things, but ukraine’s resources just dont let all of his promises happen.Though im pretty sure he will be re-elected even if nothing changes after his first term
nt porohobot
Yanukovych the worst. All the rest are just bad.
Macron because he wants to make rich people even more rich and poor people more poor.
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#Analyse
Prime Minister Justin Tru- jk he is the hottest mens 😎👍
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Gun grabbing socialist.
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Not a fucking socialist you dumb fuck,
Fucking wish he'd be but he is a right wing shithead
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Communists killed 120 million people. They aren't the brightest as is evident.
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Thats literally complete bullshit. Everything you know about the USSR is more or less propaganda. But even if we suppose its true, capitalism kills hundreds of millions a YEAR globally when you look at the effects of extreme poverty, food insecurity, lack of housing, untreated medical conditions etc.
All of which could be easily avoided and WOULD be avoided in a socialist world, even in the USSR such things were barely existent if at all.
Imperialism is also inherent to capitalism, look at how many millions died in Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Haiti, El Salvador, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Cuba (American terrorism), Guatemala, Argentina, Palestine... Literally my hand is hurting writing this list and it just goes OON AND OON AND OON.
So to summarize, communism was by far the more favorable system world the world. American imperialism / capitalism is absolutely destroying not only human lives but our entire planet with it. Its absolutely maddening.
Even if it was 240 million, it was inherently more fair and just system where at least the intention was to HELP one another and to build a equal and sustainable society. Now everything exists to create more wealth, to create even more wealth to make more we-...
This is the truth.
Monarchy :)
Tony Blair
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Chancellor, president, prime minister. It's essentially the same thing. Besides, Hitler was elected before Germany became a dictatorship.
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noooo
the good people of germany were sleeping and when they woke up, evil austrians had taken over the country.
we dont know this hitler guy and noone was nazi!!
thats basically what AFD understands under "new culture of remembering"
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literally no1 thinks like that
Yeah but this is about the WORST not the BEST president.
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too ez for hitler
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hes not president, lol
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This fucking goat fucker idiotic erdogan shit
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cya in silivri
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Babamın sağlam arkası var kimse bir şey yapamaz bana
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did you mean fetö ?
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no i meant goverment, my dad is supporting them for benefits. Kids dont need to have same thoughts as their dads right?
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my dad is radical muslim but i am atheist so ez
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thats basically %80 of new generation :D
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xaxa +1
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obama good
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+1 Ppl were afraid though that he was a gun grabber, so people bought a lot of guns. At least one good thing he did.
Obama worst
Donald Trump
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Why?
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Putin for sure.
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Risto Ryti was not fine wtf
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Nah man. Who do you dislike the most and who do you like the most.
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Kekkonen was a dictator
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Yanukovich and Zelenskiy i think
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nt porohobot
anders fogh or lars løkke
wait guys, you have different presidents?
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+1 ahahahaha fucking true. we are slaves of this shitty tzar Putin and it is very sad
Yeltsin?
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Yeah but he wasn't really "President", more like Putins puppet.
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I don't remember posting this
the worst? Putin ofc. he is mraz' and tvar' ebanaya
Tarja Halonen
Zeman.. the guy is literally drunk every time fr
The one and only MISTER NAZARBAYEREEVV
Anders fogh probably
VORSULTAN POZORBAEV AND SECOND PRESIDENT WHICH HIS DOLL KASYM KOTAKBASS TOKAEV
Mette frederiksen.
Wang Jingwei
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+1 what a traitor he was
All the Liberal ones lmao
Fuck Menzies, Fuck Howard, Fuck Abbott, Fuck Turnbull and last of all delete Scumo.
Bob Hawke was a god though. Can't wait till we aren't under the bull shit Liberal Party again.
Klement Gottwald, communist pig
Lula, he showed how corruption can destroy a country.
Yeltsin.
My God only he knows, how this alcoholic and traitor of Russia got here...
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and LULADRAO #3. in the last 20 years the only good pres was TEMER, no meme
I dont know man, Bolsonaro is pretty bad but hes not the worst president, since we had Fernando Henrique Cardoso and Floriano Peixoto
But people indeed should feel ashamed for electing him
Tony Blair wasn't president but he was basically the UK equivalent of and he got us into the Iraq war, a war responsible for the deaths of over a million innocent people just for oil and also fucked over the countries health care sector and left the country in a state where the conservatives had no choice but to make funding cuts because the country was haemorrhaging money, to this day labour have been pretty much just a cancerous socialist party that care more about none British people than they do about the country itself.
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What about the wicked bitch herself thatcher
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Thatcher ain't no saint. But I can think of at least 5 Prime Ministers that were worse, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, John Major, Edward Heath, Theresa May are all notable ones.
If we're looking further back there are even more, like our first Prime Minister was part of the biggest economic catastrophe of the era but scapegoated everyone else to get the position.
I would say Churchill had some pretty bad moments but he wasn't Prime Minister for most of them.
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But thatcher killed the north spend all its budget on London, segregated communities and broke up the north’s main source of income, and stole the milk. But yeah economically speaking Blair was worse
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As I said, Thatcher is no saint. That being said at least she had a coherent idea behind what she was doing. Before the Union busting up north, random strikes could cripple the countries infrastructure drastically. Most people's parents will remember how common an issue it was. Also, the idea that remove dying industries and investing in an upcoming service industry was one that she subscribed to.
Personally, I think she was in a situation where if she didn't do something the next prime minister would have to otherwise it would have eventually lead to an economic crash as we simply got outcompeted in Fossil Fuel, Automobiles & Steel. That being said, I think she handled it terribly by not providing a replacement in the North which is just careless and caused a huge unemployment issue. Thatcher single handedly created the "Red Wall" that only recently broke down, just because she invested in London and not investing countrywide after breaking down the dying industries.
My issue with Blair is more that he bankrupted us, declared an illegal war and joined International Human Rights treaties just to appease his Wife when we already had our own equivalent which we had complete control over. He just sold us out at every turn to his Pan Global agenda. A prime ministers priority should be his own country.
i want to stay at home not in jail
worst one is deodoro da fonseca
#monarchist
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you'd be better if you didn't say that mens(
Worst President: Dilma
1: Bolsonaro
2: Jânio
3: Dilma
4: Getúlio Vargas
FHC and Temer were the best.
Merkel
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You have a small brain.
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Merkel worse than Hitler
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Merkel isnt even President but ok little nazi.
Imagine saying a person who gassed who were according to him lower people is better than a Person who kept Germany relevant for years in the world, built Bridges between countries etc.
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1. Jaruzelski
Made the 'communism' last longer in Eastern Europe by some years, up to 10 with his coup. On the other had, he was fit and efficient for his job. Less people died during the early 1980s coup and martial time then during the Piłsudski coup.
2 Wałęsa
Basically a retard, quite likely the lowest IQ man ever to become the head of state in modern times Europe. Likely a secret police agent during the 'communist' rule. With some interesting biography on top of that, widely recognised abroad.
3. Kwaśniewski
Not a moron, the guy definitely can talk. Fit for his job, but likely quite corrupted.
4. Kaczyński
Tin foil freak, who at the end basically killed himself in a plane crash on Russian soil. This is quite controversial, but I think he was even worse than his brother. Had less of a personality.
5. Komorowski
Becoming the head of lower house of the parliament was likely the heights of his mental abilities. Should have never become a president. Pretty harmless otherwise though.
6. Duda
Basically, no one. The guy has nothing to say, has never had an opinion of his own, no nothing. Which imho makes him the worst. Talks like a creep too.
I'm pretty sure Brazil have had worse presidents than Bolsonaro.
IMO the former prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt.
Current prime minister Stefan Löfvén takes 2nd place.
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Why Reinfeldt?
the destroyer of you're mum
Nixon
Agree
Bolsonaro and a piece of shit are the same thing
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Not true, shit can still be used as a fertilizer
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Dammit, you're right!
Merkel
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Markel is the best
lol I agree but shouldn't you say hitler lol
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Too long ago and isnt a real president he did good things till the war
vucic and milosevic
Best: Antanas Smetona
Worst: Bronisław Komorowski
Best: Andrzej Duda
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What are you fucking about my friend
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Duda is so fucking based
päts like this guy fucking joined estonia to ussr bruh
All of them
Lech Wałęsa
noone
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i can't decide whos worst erdogan or kilicdaroglu
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All of them honestly.
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Hang in there, I'm so exhausted.
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zia was 10x worse
each of them lol
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Agree. Ze is just a marionetka. He said he will be a verdict for Poroh but he is just a pussy with no position.
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soeharto, lookup "May 1998 riots of Indonesia"
bolsonaro is great imo
in ours it was probably Woodrow Wilson
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Not Clinton or bush or even regan ?
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bush, clinton and regan were all better than woodrow wilson IMO, maybe with the exception of bush in some parts (but it was actually dick cheyney). You can talk alot of shit about a lot of U.S presidents but woodrow wilson the more you learn about him the worse your perception will become, trust me.
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something disgusting and probably logistically a nightmare to understand like that
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jews did the holocaust
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wtf putin is good
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Zeman and Klaus both shit
Putin (since he clearly owns Trump)
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Really??? Macri was worse than all 5 previous dictatorships????
Yall Peronianos are a fucking joke.
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Only a Peronist could be retarded enough to truly believe Macri was worse than literally EVERY-SINGLE-PRESIDENT before him including the 5 dictatorships that took place since 1930.
But maybe you're a different kind of retarded, i wouldn't know, never took you for a commie.
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Objectively speaking, not even this term will be worse than both of Cristina's terms and Peron's first term.
I really can't think of a serious way in which anyone reasonable could ever argue that CFK wasn't a worse president than Macri.
But then again, you're not reasonable.
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Nah, i remember you Ivan, you're a known retard.
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We haven't had that many bad prime ministers here.
One lied about a policy of not allowing nuclear weapons on Danish territory which was false and revealed when the Americans lost a nuclear bomb in Greenland after a b52 bomber crashlanded there (Jens Otto Krag)
One lied about having his administration purposefully burying applications for refugees from Sri Lanka of family reunification (Poul Schlüter. Our General Attorney served a four month prison sentence for that and it cost the administration re-election).
Another one entered the Iraq war alongside the Americans due to dubious american intelligence that even the Danish intelligence agency wasn't convinced of (Anders Fogh Rasmussen).
Our current PM who appointed a guy to Minister of foreign affairs wellknowing his reputation is tarnished for having sex with a girl only just turned 15 (the age of consent here) when he was 34 and attending an event for members of the youth organisation of the party he is a part of (Mette Frederiksen).
That's the most egrigous examples I can think of in modern history.
Mário Soares
1. Bolsonaro/Dilma
2. Dilma/Bolsonaro
3. Lula
4. rest
The last 4 leaders of the Liberal Party;
Morrison, Turnbull, Abbott and Howard.
every single president since fdr
Lyndon Johnson
Signed the Immigration act of 1965. Basically turned the USA into the diverse hell hole it is today.
Suharto
np
Our president doesn’t do shit so doesn’t mayter
Putin
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Not park Geun-Hye?
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typical rightist Corean.
Pretty hard they're all bad but if i have to choose one it will be Iliescu just because he literally sold our country to westerns
Jacob (Gupta) Zuma
Worst:
1) Juan Domingo Peron
2) Cristina Kirchner
3) Nestor Kirchner
4) Jose Felix Uriburu
Best:
1) Carlos Pellegrini
2) Marcelo Alvear
3) Julio Roca
4) Bartolome Mitre
Yeltsin.
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I mean, you only have 2 to choose
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I feel German so I have to say either Kohl or Merkel
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Smart guy!!!
1 - Lula a criminal
2 - Color Stupid
3 - Dilma Dumb peace of shit, a stone is more inteligent than Dilma
4 - Bolsonaro there is no bad administration, just stupid talker.
Chiang Kai Shek
short memory litle brazilian.... did you forget Dilma?? the worst and more stupid no brain president ever.
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Eisenhower was one of the best presidents, wtf?
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So what he was near? He didnt do it and he literaly ended the korean war? He was a war hero from WW2? Guy warned us about dangers of military industrial complex decades before we would see the consequences.
"Soon after taking office, Eisenhower signed an armistice ending the Korean War. Aside from sending combat troops into Lebanon in 1958, he would send no other armed forces into active duty throughout his presidency, though he did not hesitate to authorize defense spending. He also authorized the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to undertake covert operations against communism around the world, two of which toppled the governments of Iran in 1953 and Guatemala in 1954. In 1954, Eisenhower decided against authorizing an air strike to rescue French troops from defeat at Dien Bien Phu, avoiding a war in Indochina, though his support for the anti-communist government in South Vietnam would sow the seeds of future U.S. participation in the Vietnam War."
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there wasn't really a terrible president, some blame the first SK president for fucking up some things in the korean war, but that's the only time i've personally heard people point out somebody as the worst president.
Noticed everyone only mentions presidents that they've experienced.
Big ol' egos. Time only started when they started living apparently.
Dilma Roussef.
Brazilian former president.
idk but the best one is kanye for sure
obama
Erdogan is writing that history right now.
andrew dooda