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ANTI LOCKDOWN Protesters
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United States flex_ 
I honestly dont understand the hate they are getting. They are just trying to live their lives while the goverment is taking it away. WE NEED OUR FREEDOM BACK!!!
2020-05-15 17:43
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2020-05-15 17:44
#2
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United States flex_ 
Why??
2020-05-15 17:44
#134
kaamos | 
Finland Nedi21 
Those are the people why we need the lockdowns in the first place. Rights come with responsiblilties, if you cant handle responsibilities then you dont deserve rights either. Its just those conspiracy believing half ape 30 iq piece of shit jesus fighters why freedom isn't always the best option.
2020-05-17 00:23
#135
kaamos | 
Finland Nedi21 
And its not just US, its everywhere. Most people are idiots.
2020-05-17 00:24
some ppl are meant to be sheeps, there is no reality where eveyone is a leader individual, unless we start doing genetic enginerring, change entire education system, and society hierarchy pyramid scheme that's at least next 1000 years if not more, until that time AI proably will sleave us if it become somehow conscious
2020-05-22 12:37
But its not about wanting "FREEDOM" for most. In some places in the US, Local government is forcing everyone to stay home without giving people proper support when they are unable to work. Are people just expected to lose everything they have?
2020-05-17 00:29
#139
kaamos | 
Finland Nedi21 
Supporting people isn't really what people vote in US is it? :) Its called socialism. And yes it sucks balls that you have socialism for the rich as the companies will be bailed out, but the people will get fucked. But in reality the point is that in general if people would have taken the matter seriously back in february, the whole world wouldn't need to be locked down, but everybody is ready to complain about other people as long as they dont have to change anything on their own life.
2020-05-17 00:38
Booga Booga Capitalism bed Socialism Good
2020-05-22 10:59
Agagaggahahahaha Reddit browser spotted
2020-05-23 01:14
+1 well said
2020-05-22 12:17
Your freedom ends when mine starts Think about it
2020-05-15 17:45
#5
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United States flex_ 
My freedom already ended with Israel existing...
2020-05-15 17:45
#7
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
imagine hating on Israel and not the rootless international clique 👌🙁
2020-05-15 17:46
#10
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United States EmeraldCSGO 
hahahahha israel number one stoopid
2020-05-15 17:47
your gov supporting them since day 1
2020-05-15 18:01
#51
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United States flex_ 
but my religion hating them since day 1
2020-05-15 18:04
Muslim IQ
2020-05-16 00:27
More like Christian cuz Christianity started with problems between them and Jews
2020-05-22 12:01
Christians and Jew are best friends what u talking about
2020-05-22 16:32
Yeah man who tried to kill Jesus probably not a Jew or something Or the Christian states didn't like expel the Jews for a hundred billion times
2020-05-22 22:31
#173
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United States rifles 
The Christian states as well as just about every other state!
2020-05-23 01:14
Not every other state mf, for example a non-Christian state, Ottomans, accepted the Jews and Moors escaping from Spain at 16th century. Perhaps not just Christians but mostly Christians had problems with Jews in past.
2020-05-23 02:54
Who cares about the past, today Christians and Jews never have problems, but Muslim and Jew hat each other. Especially Palestinians hate Israelis
2020-05-23 20:53
That's why I said 'started' mate. Anyways, have a nice day!
2020-05-23 22:16
americas IQ...
2020-05-15 19:08
#128
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Malaysia Amerka! 
+1
2020-05-16 08:27
Take your freedom,then get the 'rona
2020-05-15 17:45
#6
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United States flex_ 
Hahah nt corona which is made in chinese lab btw cant infect people that well its just the LEFTISTS scaremongering
2020-05-15 17:46
+1 on the chinese lab part
2020-05-15 17:55
#34
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United States flex_ 
YES 💪💪💪
2020-05-15 17:56
#65
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Denmark Nikolaim88 
People that still thinks it is lab made, is the same people that thinks vacines cause autism.
2020-05-15 19:03
just let them die because of it, survival of the fittest.
2020-05-16 00:22
#123
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Denmark Notallama 
I'd agree if it wasn't because of the fact that they help spread it even further, endangering other people than themselves.
2020-05-16 07:27
#136
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China Rynaki 
Antivaxxers have been doing that since several decades ago :)
2020-05-17 00:27
#182
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Denmark Jeffersond 
You are so dumb xD wtf is this troll? :p
2020-05-23 10:27
#183
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United States flex_ 
what troll?
2020-05-23 10:30
#8
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Finland Tertzi 
ANTI lockdown PROTESTERS so by virtue of two negatives make a positive --> PRO lockdowners?
2020-05-15 17:47
#11
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United States flex_ 
DISGUSTING pro lockdowners ....
2020-05-15 17:47
Protesters in and of itself is not a negative. You will find both "anti-lockdown protesters" and "lockdown protesters" used for the same meaning, and both are correct. The former can be expanded into "protesters [protesting] for anti-lockdown [measures]," and the latter, "protesters [protesting] against the lockdown." It's one example where English hates you.
2020-05-15 18:01
#47
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United States flex_ 
Are you american?? You dare to lecture me on my own language... racista.....
2020-05-15 18:03
Are you reading? I'm quite literally saying that you were referring to the correct party. While I don't agree with you, in this comment I'm on your side.
2020-05-15 18:05
#54
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United States flex_ 
Oh. I forgive you
2020-05-15 18:05
#66
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Finland Tertzi 
i know, just felt like being a little cnt :D
2020-05-15 19:06
#17
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Poland Qzn25107 
srsly u must be retarded if you find staying at home hard...
2020-05-15 17:50
#21
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United States flex_ 
I dont i just want my freedom back as given to me in the constitution
2020-05-15 17:50
#60
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France SpooceCooke 
He wants to go guzzle his freedom fries and burgers down so he can reach his daily objective of +4kg
2020-05-15 18:58
+1 americano lifestyl
2020-05-15 19:52
#129
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Malaysia Amerka! 
+1
2020-05-16 08:29
+1 hahahahaha
2020-05-22 10:49
lmao
2020-05-23 02:58
What about the economy, you do know what a massive economic crash causes right??? It will cause death rates to go up as many people wont be able to afford to live, trust me, when the economy crashes as it will, in the next 5 years the deaths from that will far outweigh Covid 19. The problem with the lock down idiots is they dont understand long term repercussions, this will have an enormous knock on effect, we should have carried on as usual, practised social distancing and just allowed it pass through our society it was the only option, you cant just stop everything, things need to made, economies need to be ran.
2020-05-23 22:23
#18
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Canada sexiestuser 
looking at death rate panic around the virus seems horribly unjustified, especially considering how many deaths lockdown is leading to but sheep are sheep i guess, they will vote for staying home until noone ever dies again smh😒😒😒😒
2020-05-15 17:54
#23
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United States flex_ 
So true!!!
2020-05-15 17:51
#84
nEGRo | 
Spain Vorja83 
how is the lockdown leading to deaths?
2020-05-15 22:14
Depression, economic hardships, increase in lack of exercise leading to health risks. The real issue is the authoritarian measures, you can't deprive people of their most basic human right, which is going outside on the planet they were born on.
2020-05-15 22:20
#86
nEGRo | 
Spain Vorja83 
wtf, that makes no fcking sense
2020-05-15 22:21
Are you dyslexic by any chance? My comment was very clear and concise, I suggest visiting your family doctor.
2020-05-15 22:22
the average american usually struggles to have any intelligent thoughts
2020-05-15 22:23
#90
nEGRo | 
Spain Vorja83 
i see
2020-05-15 22:25
That's why there's so many gypsy scholars and scientists out there. XD
2020-05-16 01:24
point proven ty
2020-05-16 07:58
None of those develop as fast to death as covid-19. Depression need, at least, months, lack of exercises take years or decades. Will not even talk about economic hardship.
2020-05-16 00:36
Ok and? I had covid, to me personally it was a cakewalk compared to a flu. And I have hereditary lung issues which made me worried as hell. Secondly people are already out of shape and have health issues, then you confine them to a space where they don't move around. Fastracking issues they already have. You can't dismiss the people dying (which many already are) of those issues because there are people dying from something else. Economic strain has led to millions of children starving around the world. My mother might lose her business because it's deemed non essential. Should she take on lifelong debt because someone somewhere is scared for their grandpa? This lifelong damage may not immediately show up 8n numbers, but will surely lead to great harm eventually. Things aren't black and white. Lastly, you very clearly do not know anything about depression based on how quickly you dismissed it. There are levels to being depressed, and people already suffering from depression are now confined to a space where their social activities are limited to staring at the ceiling and being stuck with their thoughts. Something they are actively trying to avoid. Another case of people dying because somebody has a phobia. People at high risk should stay in and isolate themselves if they are worried for their health, but the world needs to keep moving.
2020-05-16 01:22
In the US, nobody is saying you can't go outside?? That's just not what stay-at-home orders include. Going outside to run is perfectly fine as long as you stay 6 feet away from others.
2020-05-16 01:29
But we're not discussing purely stay at home orders. What about businesses deemed non essential that are forced to stay closed? Even if we were to solely talk about stay at home orders, which I'm assuming you brought up due to the depression comments I made. They very clearly discourage socializing, which lack of is the leading cause of depression. Roughly 1 million people die annually from suicide, that's without such inhumane restrictions. Also if we're speaking about the use, parks are off limits, and it is almost entirely impossible to confine yourself within 6 feet of each other indoors. If people actively accept the risks of doing so, it should be left up entirely up to them of they want to do as much. Nobody has the right to tell anyone where they can be, whom they can talk to, and how it should be done. These are basic freedom rights many countries were founded on by THE PEOPLE. I'm also telling you this as someone whom was extremely outraged people didnt take this threat seriously long before the crisis was labeled a pandemic. The fact this virus is out there now, we will eventually all get it at one point or another. The goal is to not get sick all at once to overload the medical facilities causing unnecessary deaths. It's a goal that was wholeheartedly accepted by everybody, but now that people have issues against it, it is their human right to dismiss them.
2020-05-16 01:39
You discuss just show how selfish you are. You complain about the reality of your grandpa at the same time that ignore all ther other grandfathers around the world. And yes, if you grandpa has to lose his business to help other people live than he must lose it, don't know how could you think otherwise. Also, I don't know where you are trying to reach when saying that you had Covid and it was mild, i mean, whats the suprise on it? Most of the people don't develop any symptoms, but a lot of grandfathers and grandmothers around the world get really bad. Do you know how much time of live anyone of those who die and is +60 years old lose in average? 10 YEARS; 10 years of living with all the people they love just gone in a glimpse, and you still expecting people to have compassion with your grandfather' business. For the least, you misinterpreted what I said about depression. I know that depression is a very bad thing, but what I said is that no drepression will develop faster and spread like covid. It's simple math, while lives saved by the lockdown are above the sum of the deaths caused by deseases developed from lockdown, then lockdown should stay.
2020-05-16 06:40
I never mentioned my grandparents, reading comprehension is key when debating. Secondly, no my mother isn't financially responsible to be in debt because your scared for your grandparents life. You're simply speaking like a child that never had to make a living before. Your life is not my responsibility. If you're scared for it, stay at home and do not leave your house. If others aren't, they can attempt to live their lives under exposure. It's basic common sense .
2020-05-17 00:16
You are right, if we were still living in cave age. Human have crowded and organized around a state so we can guarante each other rights. You are not responsible for other people lives, thats true, but the state is, and he will do what is necessary for that. Also, nobody is responsible for your moms debts other than her, it's the same logic you used when saying that you aren't responsible for other people lives. For the least, I really hope that you mother can save her business, but nothing is more important than life.
2020-05-17 00:40
Exactly, nobody is responsible for her debt other than her. So she shouldn't be forced to close her business because somebody is scared for their grandparents. Keep them at home. This has nothing to do with cave age, before this pandemic you weren't responsible for paying other people's medical bills. So I don't see why we would be responsible for other people's health now. You can't take away people's freedoms because it inconveniences someone. That's not how it works.
2020-05-17 01:28
Ok, what about the next 5-10 years after a huge economic collapse, you do know what that causes right, health care standards drop, people slip into poverty, people become homeless and cant afford to eat. You mention old people, they are really expensive, they require more healthcare, they dont work, they dont put into system anymore and require more out of it, where does that money come from? it cant just come out of thin air, people in the last year of their life often cost medically about what they cost in the entire rest of their life, so 50% of your medical cost in often in the last year of your life, how can we afford that when the economy crashes, we cant. Rather than losing lets says ma few million now we will lose many more over a longer time period, the UK might have 100k deaths then is over but the economic crash will cause more, i have mental health issues, if the quality of the care i receive falls or becomes less available because of its cost i might end up with no help at all and that could lead me to suicide, you dont think any this through, it all costs money and that money needs to come from somewhere.... The world cant just stop or it all collapses. Also what happens when lock down stops, the virus is still there and it will just spread again, and then lock down happens again, more economic damage, then we open again and cycle repeats, till in about 12 months we have the same amount of deaths and no one can afford to live, good call. What about student, a lot of them can hardly afford to live, so that means global education is going to fall massively, do you see how this effects everything, its actually in the long term for everyone to take more deaths not so everything else can keep running and survive, stop feeling, start thinking.
2020-05-23 22:40
All I see in you words is a big aversion towards old people at the same time you are questioning how you are going to get medical health, you should start to think less about yourself and start caring about the society as a whole. Yeah, elderly cost a lot to the state, but remember that the publics thing you use, the money the government have, the roads, the buildings and all the structure of your country have been built by those peopl, and thats why their deceive all the help they need, including the right to live. They have worked a lot and deserve all the medical care they need. About the lockdown, you are forgetting two things that are very important. First of all, all the people that have got and survived will not likelly get it again, thus the next wave will not be as close as the first and will not require as drastic measures. Secondly, vaccine trials are going very fast, human test with positives results are alreading being published around the world, so it's very possible that a vaccine will be out in a couple of months, ending all this. For the least, it's impossible to know how many people will die because of the economic, maybe not so many, maybe a lot. On the other hand, it's more easy to know the amount of people that will die because of coronavirus, and it's a lot. For example, if we follow tha path of natural immunity, as Boris Jonson propose at first, 2/3 of the population would need to get coronavirus in other to it to work. If you consider the death rate of 1% almost, then 700 thousand people would die just in UK. Is that a good price to pay? Of cource I know that lockdown is something that we need to be very carefull about, no lockdown should stay for a big period of time, but isolation measures and continuous work by the government and the population needs to happen in other to defeat this virus.
2020-05-23 23:19
Aversion to old people? No i dont want them to die, we should do our best to protect them but we cant let the economy crash. The economy crashing will harm the society, what are you on about, i care about the society and i dont want to see it fall apart, i never said old people didnt have a right to live or be cared for i just said they cost alot and damaged economy will harm them and poor people the most, thats a fact. Ok the people who have it may not get not get it again, so let people work, let healthy people get it and you will build up and immunity, its how nature works. we dont know the death rate at all, many people show no symptoms or showed such mild symptoms that they thought nothing of it, we know the economic damage very well. The plague killed 60% of europe, this isnt as bad as people think.
2020-05-23 23:24
1- "You mention old people, they are really expensive, they require more healthcare, they dont work, they dont put into system anymore and require more out of it" In this sentence you try to justify why lockdown shouldn't happen. You are almost saying that is not worth to do these measures because old people are "expensive, don't work and don't put in the system anymore." 2- After showing no respect to elderly you come and say "i have mental health issues, if the quality of the care i receive falls or becomes less available because of its cost i might end up with no help". Clearly very worried about yourself at the same time that ignores other people because, again, they are "expensive, don't work and don't put in the system anymore." ===== Yeah, I agree, let people that have got it to start work again. And thats what happening with the most countries, they are slowly easing the lockdown. I am not against that. I don't know the death rate, but a lot of research suggest it's something close to 1%, and they consider the 80% of people that get it and don't show symptons or mild one. But a fact is, we can predict the death roll of coronavirus way more easy than the possible deaths caused by an economic crash. I think we should worry more about now than about 5 to 10 years ahead.
2020-05-23 23:30
You cant read, i stated a basic fact, they are expensive, im expensive, i require a lot care and medication, im in an at risk group, so is my cousin, he has a child and his wife cant work, she unfit for work and hes not in a high income position, he could end up homeless, i was merely using myself as an example. I never said we should drop old people and let them die, its a question of balance between protection now and making sure we dont crash economically. There are many people who this will effect, old people and poor people will feel it the worst thats the fact, i never said fuck them, i merely stated a fact. I actually said, how do we afford to keep them, if the money isnt there its not there, what dont you get, its clear we should protect vulnerable people its what society is for, so protect the weak allow the rest to keep running society, or in 12-15 months the weak will feel the full impact of the carsh. Stop putting words in my mouth and drawing conclusion i never even suggested, im not saying let people die, what im saying is think more about long term strategies so in 12 months we arent on our ass and fucked.
2020-05-23 23:34
Heres an example, my dad was off work for 2 months, he was getting 80% pay, luckily he has a job that pays well so we could afford that, some people cant, they dont have that disposable income, what do they do?
2020-05-23 23:33
I don't know exactly how UK is dealing with those people. In Brasil the government is giving a monthly paycheck for those who need. So I suggest something similar. For the people that still can't get it, like refugges, I would suggest to try contact with NGOs, maybe the government could help with that building a line for the contact between them. In Brazil a lot of famous people are doing beneficent streams on Youtube, so far some millions have been raised, along with a lot of tons of food. I know it's not ideal, but we are in middle of a pandemic, and we can't expect our lives to be the same as It would be without it. It's just a period of time, and I am sure it will pass.
2020-05-23 23:39
Im on UC, universal credit because of my mental health issue i cant work full time, i cant withstand the stress of it, and a lot of people are on it, for instance, i get £342 a months, if i move out that would go up a lot. But that will have to go down when the economy crashes. Im not saying it has to be the same, but the economy is fine, a crash is different, thing actually then start to fall apart, people will have to make sacrifices but the damage thats being done now will result in a huge crash and hardly any of the general population will have any money.
2020-05-23 23:45
But economic hardship from a depression can last years the great depression lasted a decade, about 600k people a year die in the UK on average, lets say Covid 19 kills 100k people, lets say the depression last 4 years, it only needs to ad 25k extra deaths each year and it easily can and the UK is pretty rich country what about places where poverty is everywhere??? A crash as big as the one that might be about to hit will destroy business, destroy jobs, make people homeless, they wont be able to pay tax and other such things so other services suffer, massive cuts will be made that means things like healthcare will decline and more people will die, money makes the world go round its a fact and when it run out society is fucked. Also did you know that people the year they die tend to cost as much to health care providers as they did the entire rest of their life, with a global economic crash how can we afford that? How can we afford to keep old people, we cant, you dont understand the knock on effect it has.
2020-05-23 22:30
Freedom to infect yourself, harm others and die?
2020-05-15 17:50
#22
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United States flex_ 
Yes as it is given to me in the constitution
2020-05-15 17:50
Hell yeah brother
2020-05-15 17:51
#25
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United States flex_ 
💪 YES BROTHER
2020-05-15 17:51
#45
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Latvia IzzoR 
well now you proved that its a bait 0/8 :/
2020-05-15 18:02
#27
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Canada sexiestuser 
name doesnt check out
2020-05-15 17:52
Okay Mr. Science
2020-05-15 18:26
#57
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Canada sexiestuser 
how can a local family run bakery harm and kill others?
2020-05-15 18:27
Do you even know what this thread is about, large gatherings , people protesting against corona, infecting lots of people. And yes, even your local family run bakery can infect the costumers. So also them need to be careful.
2020-05-15 19:22
#71
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Canada sexiestuser 
you seem to forget that protesters (minus gym retards) protest for an actual reason foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-water-power-b.. other states being opened and having even less cases per 1000 isnt helping either
2020-05-15 19:43
foxnews, im out, not gonna read that shit
2020-05-15 19:50
#82
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Canada sexiestuser 
who gives a shit if its foxnews, its a los angeles countys governor order
2020-05-15 20:02
wait, if you dont go out then who the f*ck can these sh*tters harm you?
2020-05-16 08:21
No freedom to earn a living and not live in poverty with a shit economy that will lead to many deaths for the next 10 years.
2020-05-23 22:36
#26
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Europe letqpena 
By that logic their life consists of loitering in public places and protesting lawfully elected government officials. Get a fucking job!
2020-05-15 17:52
#28
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United States flex_ 
I have job but cant go BECAUSE OF LOCKDOWN STOP the LOCKDOWN
2020-05-15 17:53
#29
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Europe letqpena 
Get a job you can do from home and stop freeloading you raging cumbucket.
2020-05-15 17:54
#30
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United States flex_ 
Who said i was freeloading???
2020-05-15 17:54
#33
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Europe letqpena 
I just did. Get another job.
2020-05-15 17:55
#36
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Canada sexiestuser 
this is not a very smart thing to say
2020-05-15 17:57
#38
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United States flex_ 
YES HE SO STUPID
2020-05-15 17:58
#62
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France SpooceCooke 
this is not a very smart thing to say
2020-05-15 18:59
#37
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United States flex_ 
How can i when there is lockdown??? You brazillian???
2020-05-15 17:57
#39
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Europe letqpena 
Sounds like a COMMIE excuse to me
2020-05-15 17:58
#40
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United States flex_ 
IM NOT A COMMIE WTF I SHOOT THOSE RETARDS
2020-05-15 17:59
#41
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Europe letqpena 
That's exactly what a filthy bolshevik would say after being caught
2020-05-15 17:59
#42
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United States flex_ 
u filthy bolshevik gtfo
2020-05-15 18:00
#130
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Malaysia Amerka! 
XD
2020-05-16 08:32
I dont understand why Americans accept this from their politicians, THIS IS THE FUCKING REASON YOU HAVE GUNS, NOW USE THEM TO TAKE BACK YOUR FREEDOM, and demand lesser taxes while your at it, you have been bitches for too long now.
2020-05-15 17:55
#35
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United States flex_ 
THANK YOU FOR THE ADVICE I WILL GO OUT AND SHOOT THESE FUCKING LEFTISTS
2020-05-15 17:56
Well.. yeah. something like that, or just, you know.. go to work with everyone else, but bring your guns and if the police/military comes, you gotta, you know, be persuasive.
2020-05-15 18:52
shoot yourself first
2020-05-22 10:50
tf sweden has right tards
2020-05-22 10:50
Well.. not really, perhaps 1000 men in Sweden are pure rightist, personally I am a socialist in American standards just like every other Swede, some more than others. It sucks but hard not to be when you are raised in Sweden.
2020-05-22 11:05
I got you confused with the person below you lol
2020-05-22 11:35
#159
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United States flex_ 
wtf???
2020-05-22 11:55
Americans SMH
2020-05-15 18:03
#48
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United States flex_ 
Americans>> ALL
2020-05-15 18:03
In some cases c:
2020-05-19 17:37
false
2020-05-23 23:21
Throw away your tv and phones that is what it will take because you will no longer subscribe to the narrative, it only has power if you give it power.
2020-05-15 18:54
If you want to exercise your freedom won't you please go do it in Uganda that still has cases of Ebola popping up every now and then? Please? For Freedom's sake ?!?! These are the same people who cheerish the freedoms of being poor, an addict, dying in the streets alone, hating on desperate people with no other choice than crime or starvation. Please... go to Africa and teach Ebola a thing or two about how freedom conquers social distancing and worries of not spreading a potential deadly virus.
2020-05-15 18:58
#63
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
Yes I should be free to do whatever I want including harming myself If im not harming others thank you very much
2020-05-15 19:02
The idea of "not harming others" is so vapid. We all harm others. We harm nature, we dictate and keep people poor so we can exploit them. If you think your life isn't harming others by default I think you're wrong. Do you think you did poor little Samuel a favor by buying the shoes he sowed for you for 2 cents an hour and it doesn't keep him in his subservient exploitative role? The second he demands more, you and I will buy shoes from another company who can ensure we get it cheap because they found a little girl named Lucy willing to sow our shoes for only 1 cent an hour.
2020-05-15 19:09
#83
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
Your definition is too subjective for any form of law or moral system. Harming = assaulting you, robbing you, raping you etc. Its no rocket science
2020-05-15 22:06
I don't care. I love you just for your username. I'm a massive Frank Herbert fan. Amazing name mate. Love it.
2020-05-16 00:18
#92
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
Nice hopefully the new movie will deliver
2020-05-16 00:19
Can't be any worse than Lynch's attempt (altho I liked it to a certain extent. The inner monologues were such a huge part of the books. It seemed weird to ppl unfamiliar with the source material but actually made a lot of sense to these who were fans of the books). I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hope it'll be good. Also: I don't agree with your definition of "harming" someone. I think it has more implications that goes beyond physically harming someone. We're keeping people in poverty and as a result underage girls is sold to old gross men in asia because we don't pay them enough to work in sweatshops etc. So, we're always harming someone, directly or indirectly.
2020-05-16 00:29
#101
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I mean if you are selling her without her consent you are harming her. How I divide is between mutually accepted interactions against coercion. But of course its not perfect.
2020-05-16 00:32
Where do you think the minerals mined for making micro chips comes from? It's people in Africa and Asia mining hazardous stuff for you and me to enjoy. Our welfare is built on exploiting cheap labor in terribly unsafe enviroments. We can't escape that fact. It's straight up exploitation. It matters little if your 6 year old kid is taught to mine minerals in a toxic enviroment or has to work 15 hours a day sowing shoes and making t-shirts. It's straight up exploitation and you and I better accept we live on the back of that being done. That WE exploit people. Directly or not. But we do.
2020-05-16 00:35
#109
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I don't deny that people are exploited. But you must think that assuming that those kids are not under forced labor, they have no real other option. Without the exploiters they would be even worse off, because if they had a better choice they would not be working there. Its a very complicated issue.
2020-05-16 01:11
It IS complicated as fuck. But that doesn't make you or me buying those cheap shoes or t-shirts less implicated. And can we tell if it's good or not? If our actions keep these people in poverty or not? IT IS COMPLICATED. But that doesn't excuse us or let us have this notion of helping someone by buying Adidas shoes for 100 bucks when the little 14 year old girl who made them got 20 cents. It is complicated and we don't like to think about it.
2020-05-16 01:15
#111
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I'm not saying that it excuses us. But if we protest and somehow the plant on those countries is closed and they have to go back to rice fields or some other worse option we haven't really helped them. They say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
2020-05-16 01:17
Indeed. And I get your intentions and why you say it's complicated. But really, the complication part comes from us wanting to still live like kings exploting others rather than being poor. It's on us, no matter how you spin it. It's like trying to tell me how a cow should be glad for being slaughtered because it makes our world go round and it probably wouldn't have been alive without our food industry. So somehow that cow I'm about to slaughter should be thanking me for having been alive in the first place.
2020-05-16 01:21
#115
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I don't know man. At the same time we are egotistical but we also can cooperate. We are capable of both extremes and everything in between. What I don't agree is that being poverty in itself is a virtue. Poverty can be a virtue if you are doing it for some other higher purpose like the monks or something, but in general terms human nature always strive to better themselves and avoid pain. Thats why we can ascend as a society.
2020-05-16 01:24
#64
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United States flex_ 
I will teach those about FREEDOM
2020-05-15 19:02
cmon go outside. honestly after seeing this thread I wish u get corona and die from it
2020-05-15 19:52
#77
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Malaysia Amerka! 
+1
2020-05-15 19:54
#76
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
Freedom needs to be taken sometimes because idiots cannot make decisions for themselves
2020-05-15 19:53
#95
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
If idiots without power cannot make decisions for themselves why do idiots with power can?
2020-05-16 00:22
he believes CoMmUnIsM where a big brother will care about his future and decide his life.
2020-05-16 08:23
good morning communist boy
2020-05-16 08:22
#132
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
If millions of people are around a fire people need to be told specifically to not jump in the fire of else some idiots will
2020-05-16 17:30
I don't mind anti lockdown, the fittest survives8)
2020-05-15 19:54
#79
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Malaysia Amerka! 
I hope people realize hes joking lol
2020-05-15 19:54
No, he is not.
2020-05-16 00:40
#158
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United States flex_ 
baited...
2020-05-22 11:53
Rule of baiting #1: don't reveal your bait So this is no longer a bait
2020-05-22 12:07
#167
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United States flex_ 
sorry
2020-05-22 22:12
Np but don't do the same mistake again Have a nice day :)
2020-05-22 22:31
USA Freedom Pick one ,cant even own a dildo in some states ????
2020-05-15 19:55
We just want to go for vacation in the south now, no im not anti-lockdowner
2020-05-16 00:27
Same as anti-vaccines
2020-05-16 00:26
#98
allu | 
Canada lunchies 
In "living their lives", they're actively endangering the lives of others. If you think that gathering in groups to protest doesn't warrant hate, and is acceptable, then you're a fucking imbecile. I'm sick of entitled assholes not taking a global pandemic seriously. I doubt you'd be so happy to protest if your mother were the one dying in a hospital. You have no self awareness or any capacity to look beyond your own perspective of things. That's why people hate Americans. You're so fucking self absorbed and think that going against the grain is a good thing. Sometimes, statutes and laws are placed for a reason. Sometimes, being different than others isn't necessarily a good thing.
2020-05-16 00:27
#100
Liazz | 
North America pwooksu 
0/8 useless thread
2020-05-16 00:28
Flag checks out.
2020-05-16 00:40
what a useless thread
2020-05-16 00:41
#108
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Poland Hanse 
Reported for having negative number of braincells
2020-05-16 00:46
idrc
2020-05-16 06:48
#120
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United States WumboCumbo 
People can self-isolate if they choose to, but why do people that aren't afraid of a virus that has such a low mortality rate forced into these conditions ? Businesses should open back up and everyone who isn't a fan doesn't have to leave their quarantine setup and does not have to open their business up Please enlighten me as to why this shouldn't be the case
2020-05-16 06:54
Hospitals/healtcare system could be quickly overwhelmed. Not everyone dies but still a lot of people need medical care. We have all seen what happened in Italy.
2020-05-17 01:31
healthcare should not even exist in the first place. who dont care about their own life should die because of that, that is justice. you are making lots of mistakes to cover up one mistake.
2020-05-22 11:02
Arent they violating their 1st amendment right by shutting down debate with intimidation? Im all for 2nd amendment but this is retarded
2020-05-16 06:57
#122
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China tralia 
when ur parents are infected the virus from u and lieing in the ICU. then u can get the legacy soon )
2020-05-16 06:58
If Americans would actually respect quarantine and health precaution like Chinese do it would already be over
2020-05-16 08:35
#138
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China Rynaki 
Nah, it's easier to blame everything on China than to respond appropriately to and prevent the spread of the virus.
2020-05-17 00:30
#144
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United States flex_ 
LIBERAL CUCKS UP HERE THAT WANT COMMUNISM....
2020-05-22 10:42
right tards always say liberalism is a disease but complain when "their" freedom gets taken away... mfw right tards are just selfish retards
2020-05-22 10:48
you need a brain back
2020-05-22 10:50
yes, they are heroes
2020-05-22 10:51
flag
2020-05-22 10:55
burgers thinking they actually ever had freedom.
2020-05-22 10:57
most of these protesters are abandoned childs or cut off from familly , mostly don't have kids or elders acting selfish stoopid no brain
2020-05-22 12:12
#166
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Flag checks out
2020-05-22 16:32
#179
swag | 
Sweden Pepega 
+1
2020-05-23 03:07
I know the USA never heard of Kant. But he explains in one sentence why anti lockdown protesters are stupid. Maybe read one book in your life it could save you from stupidity.
2020-05-22 22:17
#171
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United States flex_ 
Ive read many including a fantastic one called Mein Kampf i think you should read..
2020-05-23 01:11
- Karl Marx - Engels - Trotski + Rothbard + Hoppe + Hayek
2020-05-23 01:15
#178
EliGE | 
Brazil r0bben 
You are on the right track buddy
2020-05-23 02:58
se tu fremes diante do mercado...
2020-05-23 17:08
#176
EliGE | 
Brazil r0bben 
Tax is theft, the government is ilegitim and lockdown is totalitarianism.
2020-05-23 02:56
I didn’t lose my business to the pandemic. I lost my dream of ten years, and the last four years of hard, around-the-clock work, due to the global bureaucratic mishandling of the entire situation. Enough is enough! This is my response to the lies and irresponsibility that have been handed down to us from around the world. I refuse to go along with this new status quo, and if you agree with my message, I would owe you a debt of gratitude if you shared this video on any or all of your social accounts. I have never produced a more important and heavily research video, and I thank you ahead of time for watching. Let’s get the message out that changes need to be made. youtu.be/y1Bx_xYjaLA Some disclaimers (please read before commenting on YouTube): Many people that have tried to watch the video believe the video has been taken down, even though it is still up. This is because you received a message that I’ll share a screenshot of in the top comment. By default, YouTube is set with restricted content NOT allowed on your account. It’s another attempt to censor us. But if you go into your settings you can turn that toggle off and watch the video in whatever country you’re in. The other reason I’m sharing the video here is that the first time I shared it, a couple of you shared my video as well (It’s better to share the direct video with your own messaging, rather than my post. So if you want to share, please just share this URL directly - youtu.be/y1Bx_xYjaLA ). Anyway, when just a few of you shared, the video got a big boost and the message went out to a larger audience, but obviously not nearly enough to make a difference. So I’m hoping with a few more shares we can change some more minds. You can also reference this page (which contains the video), as it has a full index of references - ocpdonline.com/dear-world-leaders-covid-.. This video is about ending the lockdowns by any means necessary. If you disagree with my opinions on the wearing of face masks, that’s fine. But it shouldn’t detract from the bigger message of the governments deception and the demand that the lockdowns end. It would be a shame if this message wasn’t spread further just because we don’t see eye to eye on a minor issue. My point with the masks is that we might have to make some temporary concessions in order to achieve autonomy faster. Bill Gates is mentioned at the beginning of the video due to a specific video in which he warns of a virus. I do not support Bill Gates. But out of all of the many warnings given to governments about this scenario, his is the most famous and the he is the one person that people that disagree with us would consider on their side. Also, not all of the numbers and scenarios are accurate at this time. But they were 100% accurate as of the recording of this video. Things change. I have no control over that. If you made it all the way to the end of the video or the end of this message, thank you. Again, my hope is that you share this in order to help the other side see why it’s so important to end the lockdowns and why it’s so important that the pressure is not taken off of the Chinese government. Oh, and I made it easier to share by adding English closed captions and subtitles in Spanish and Chinese.
2020-05-23 08:26
#181
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United States flex_ 
Thank you for sharing! :D
2020-05-23 10:23
This corona stuff is way overblown and exagerated and honestly is hard to not think this is done on purpose, they want to weaken the economy and then start with new policies which will hurt us even more with the pandemic excuse.. I mean they keep saying it is dangerous but it only kills old people who already had other diseases, so the best option would be quite simple, do not close anything, just advise everyone that this virus is around and you can get it very easily and is all at your own risk, hospital once they get full then just stay home and take care of your own stuff... I mean this would be the best choice, you still can live at the fullest and if your old and struggling you might get the diseas and die, not big deal really but at least the world wont stop beacuse of old people who were already about to die anyway
2020-05-23 10:35
People dont get what a massive economic crash will cause, medical care will fall, unemployment will go up, crime rates will go up, education will get worse, homelessness will go up, suicide rates will go up and general quality of life will go down, people wont be able to afford too feed themselves or their children. With the amount of borrowing some nations are doing this will be far worse than anything we have seen in anyone lifetime.
2020-05-23 22:43
just hunt some animals or fish some fish u lazy bum m8 . dont just rely on money but instead lets just do the old ways nub . we not gonna die without money but die without food and water . think
2020-05-23 23:27
No im good, i like modern medicine, electronics, housing, warmth, food and the modern quality of life, im not going back a thousand years.
2020-05-23 23:27
said that to ur tiktok daughters that like being naked like thousand years ago lmao
2020-05-23 23:29
The reality is the financial ruin these lockdowns are going to cause will be worse than the virus, the world has to keep moving it cant just stop. I mean im 21 i was about to move out to a place i actually wanted to move into thats fucked now, a lot of people who are just above the poverty line now wont be able to afford to live, heres the reality lock downs wont make it go away it will remain all you are doing is spreading the deaths out over a longer period and in the mean time destroying our economies, th UK had to borrow 62 billion in april, thats the highest ever for this country, people who right now have a decent amount of money will basically be broke.
2020-05-23 22:20
fucking americans fReEdOm
2020-05-23 23:20
nice murica killing themselves slowly . lmao
2020-05-23 23:28
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