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-nitr0 +????
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Philippines _SweZ_ 
I'd add autimatic or tarik if possible, tarik can take over igl over stew or auti can main awp for liquid.
2020-05-21 05:26
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Stop copying my topic, thanks
2020-05-21 05:31
#53
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Europe piotrgow12 
+MICHU
2020-05-21 11:02
+1
2020-05-21 15:16
+autimatic EZ TOP 1 ERA
2020-05-23 03:34
to be honest kicking nitr0 won't do much, bringing kassad as the coach is the most beneficial for the team imo since they need a coach that's energetic unlike FUCKING ADREN, FUCK YOU ADREN
2020-05-21 05:31
Adren is just a lazy person. Idk how someone can be such a loser. You have a team with potential with top 1 and you just sit back and take naps during matches. He has a very pathetic mentality. On top of that this is last chance to be actually involved in the pro scene outside commentating matches or being analyst or some shit.
2020-05-21 06:25
#29
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United States SWiFTzZzZz 
I don’t think he would be a bad analyst, he’s just not a coach. Has absolutely zero game management. Most series liquid doesn’t even take a single time out
2020-05-21 07:25
You don't have to take timeout if your coach is a useless piece of trash
2020-05-21 09:38
that was the point...
2020-05-22 13:05
#45
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Sweden Lagge15 
I agree. Don't get rid of him, create a role which suits him and then bring in an in-game coach that can complement him
2020-05-21 10:46
You're fucking right. When's the last time Liquid took a time out? Adren's worthless dude wtf. How can someone be so lazy, this is their last chance to be involved in a game they love, and this is the type of shit they pull? Pure insanity.
2020-05-21 12:46
#99
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United States porcupine2020 
i mean they took 7 timeouts in both vertigo and mirage combined
2020-05-22 17:00
Maybe more recently, but when LIquid was sliding downwards I didn't notice many time outs. And Adren is still useless man, Liquid's strats are really poor.
2020-05-22 17:01
i think adren as analyst should be fine, kassad brought in as the main ingame coach is better
2020-05-22 17:02
#119
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Europe Weslleyy5 
I agree, Adren analyst and Kassad coach would be an insane pick up. They don't need to change any players, just switch the roles around to have the game built around Twistzz, Elige and Naf, rather then Stewie. Stewie - Igl/awp Nitro - Support/awp Elige - entry Naf - Lurk/Awp Twistzz - Second entry
2020-05-22 21:04
nah fuck adren get kassad and imapet
2020-05-23 03:32
they need some one to tell them to stop being fucking pussies and pop heads
2020-05-22 20:53
Jks ofc
2020-05-21 05:34
#4
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United States Magma_44 
tarik only if they want the team to implode
2020-05-21 05:42
#5
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United States DiabIo 
-stewie go next
2020-05-21 05:44
#13
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Palestine howisthat888 
+1
2020-05-21 06:12
-1 he's igling and they need him. He's their best option for that role
2020-05-21 06:23
#47
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Sweden Lagge15 
I think he is just interim IGL until Nitr0 finds his individual form again.
2020-05-21 10:47
#108
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United States Festive_ 
when did he start igling for liquid?
2020-05-22 20:24
#111
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United States Festive_ 
wow thanks. the stuff he says about motivation is very interesting and makes a lot of sense. can't wait for a decent schedule and for LANs to come back. so much more enjoyable for everyone it seems
2020-05-22 20:27
i hope the change works. stew knows what he's doing with igling so im hoping he doesn't choke
2020-05-22 20:52
#54
Xyp9x | 
India Zyncc 
-stewie +auti -nitro + Cerq
2020-05-21 11:10
#6
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United States twistzz_top_1 
its just the pandemic, wait for lan results
2020-05-21 05:45
#127
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United States jaeger_steam 
please don't tell me you believe this. Even their lan results were lackluster since the player break before the major. even their strongest fans need to recognize there are serious problems in the team right now. hell, since you wrote this comment, they have lost to Furia again, and fucking Chaos. online or not, this is not acceptable
2020-05-23 03:54
although lackluster, they were still making lan playoffs at big events, let's be honest liquid wouldn't be losing to these shitter online teams like chaos on lan
2020-05-23 06:30
#7
STYKO | 
United States poL_aris 
-botislaw + love OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
2020-05-21 05:45
#8
EliGE | 
Estonia realmens 
+fnx he gets stewie and elige laid with his top quality bitch amigos they lose virginity, ez top 1
2020-05-21 05:47
WARDELL
2020-05-21 05:47
#141
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Shit player.
2020-05-23 07:09
#10
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Japan eternaL_ 
They won’t make roster moves while everything is online. If the issues still persist on LAN I still want to see them stick together and work to get back to where they once were. Unlike most cases where IGLs get a certain amount of time to work on their individual game before they inevitably get kicked, I feel Nitr0 is genuinely just going through a really rough patch that he can get out of in due time. A lot of burnout and I guess the IGL role has had a big toll, but he’s only 24 and I think it’s far too early to write him off as washed up. I think if they had to make a change it would have to be adreN. Yes, even zonic with Astralis needed time until the team got success but I feel Liquid’s coach should be one with a stronger character with more leadership.
2020-05-21 05:59
#55
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Australia CLEGGY 
no difference between offline and online cs stop making excuses for bad teams
2020-05-21 11:13
#79
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Japan eternaL_ 
If you think Liquid perform the same offline and online you’re clearly uninformed.
2020-05-22 01:55
#87
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Australia CLEGGY 
or maybe you're just a delusional fanboy? tell me what makes playing online so much harder for these "top teams" than playing on lan? if you want to be a top team you need to play good in both settings u idiot
2020-05-22 10:22
#92
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Japan eternaL_ 
No need to call me an idiot dude. What is the point you're trying to get across anyway? I'm not saying the only reason Liquid are losing is because the tournament is online, but this Liquid lineup has always been better on LAN than online, both in terms of the teams they win/lose against and what the players say, which is why I'm saying we should wait until LANs. That literally has no correlation to whether I'm a fanboy or not, and it doesn't change the fact that Liquid are currently terrible either so I don't see where I list any excuses. I'd say Liquid are especially a team that relies on a lot of momentum, which is why a lot of people believe stew has an important role of boosting morale during matches with his energy. Obviously that's much easier on LAN than through VC only. I agree with you in that a top team needs to play good in both settings and I never said otherwise either, so yes Liquid do need to improve in that sense but it doesn't change the fact that their showings on LAN are a lot more reliable, and since the majority of CS tournaments are held in an offline setting roster moves should be based on that. And if you really think offline CS and online CS are the same, how do you explain all these upsets both in NA and EU tournaments?
2020-05-22 13:04
#96
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Australia CLEGGY 
What point are you trying to make? Look at your first reply i can count atleast 5 excuses u throwout for liquid playing like garbage. all you're doing is writing 3 paragraphs of absolute bullsh!t and then claiming you're not a fanboy. grow up kid, you're team isnt losing cause its "online cs" they are losing cause they are bad K?
2020-05-22 16:57
#124
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Japan eternaL_ 
My point was literally there at the start? Wait until LAN to make roster moves? What’s so hard to understand about that? I literally admit that Liquid are playing garbage, but since Liquid play better on LAN and most top tier tournaments are on LAN, we should wait until they get back to that setting lol. I said Nitr0 is playing bad and listed my opinion as to why. I listed a coach change because they are playing bad and something is not working. I’m literally listing solutions BECAUSE they’re playing bad, and you seem to think it’s just excuses? Can you read? You’re trying to say Liquid are losing because they’re bad not because they’re playing online, I’ve been saying it’s both from the start. It’d help if you actually tried to understand what I’m trying to say. Imagine telling me I have no point when your latest response is just an ignorant reply without content that just summarises everything I say as bullshit without listing why or how. Don’t tell me to grow up if you need to censor “bullshit” and leave dumb errors like “you’re team”. Still no response to my last question either, so really who’s the one with no point? I’m here for discussion, maybe I’ll respond next when you actually have something to say.
2020-05-23 03:17
#130
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United States jaeger_steam 
if that were the case though, he should be getting better considering the lack of lans over the past few months. except, they are just getting worse as a team. i know online and lan are quite different, despite what some above may claim, but their form shouldn't be that bad online if things really were alright in the team. this team ABSOLUTELY needs a change right now, things aren't looking better at all, and in fact are getting clearly worse.
2020-05-23 04:39
#133
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Japan eternaL_ 
I think he's really tired and burnt out rn. Maybe less motivated because there are no LANs? I'm not sure, but individually most of the players perform a lot better on LAN as well. There have been a lack of tournaments overall but there doesn't always have to be a large number of LANs for a player to feel burnout and considering how long he's been playing on Liquid maybe he's going through it pretty bad rn. Maybe practice isn't going too well either since every match is online? I can understand why they're getting worse as a team and why they will for a little bit after this- unable to build chemistry like on LAN, less momentum during matches, recent changes in roles etc, but it's strange how much nitr0 is struggling. With the burden of the IGL role off him for a while I want to wait and see if he can get out of that slump. If the issues persist even when LAN CS is back then my opinion may change, idk. For now as I said I think a coach change is the best option. They need someone with character like zeus or kassad to really bring energy to this team imo. Who would you bring in?
2020-05-23 05:08
#11
s1mple | 
Algeria Chemso 
+ALEX look his last interview
2020-05-21 06:04
#30
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Japan eternaL_ 
Do you have a link?
2020-05-21 07:31
#71
s1mple | 
Algeria Chemso 
2020-05-21 19:59
#80
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Japan eternaL_ 
Thanks!
2020-05-22 01:55
#107
s1mple | 
Algeria Chemso 
Np
2020-05-22 20:21
#116
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Argentina trackssZZZ 
+11111
2020-05-22 20:58
they're not going to get tarik or autimatic as their buyouts are probably more than they're willing to spend
2020-05-21 06:10
#142
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India FosFate 
autimatic won't even leave GenG rn. And Tarik is a downgrade
2020-05-23 07:11
#14
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United States laiff 
if this stewie igl thing doesn't work after rtr is over then +ALEX is in liquid for sure
2020-05-21 06:15
+floppy and stew igl permanently
2020-05-21 06:22
#25
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Latvia Natsuu1 
+vanity
2020-05-21 06:40
You guys have no idea what adren does for the team
2020-05-21 06:44
#42
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Kazakhstan jetlEG 
but it seems like nothing cuz of current results
2020-05-21 10:40
+1
2020-05-21 21:55
#35
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Brunei cyLoL 
Disband okay Valorant best thing for them
2020-05-21 09:40
Tarik IGL? I like the guy hea funny has hell but hes not IGL
2020-05-21 09:43
major winning IGL
2020-05-21 12:52
#68
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Philippines _SweZ_ 
+1
2020-05-21 15:50
#78
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0 
So is Zeus
2020-05-21 21:57
but zeus is a good igl lmao
2020-05-22 17:02
#121
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0 
so is tarik
2020-05-22 22:38
#120
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Saudi Arabia SalForShort 
#78 you're actually so stupid LMAO
2020-05-22 21:09
#38
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India mr_magician 
+nifty ffs #savenifty
2020-05-21 09:43
+ TargettedFox
2020-05-21 09:47
#41
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Europe t.o.p 
dexter
2020-05-21 09:48
lol why?
2020-05-21 10:47
#58
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Europe SEXYALEKSIB 
Stopped reading at Tarik.
2020-05-21 12:50
#59
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France LorisDF 
TUROK in 2020 KKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-05-21 12:51
#62
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Albania Maltin 
Tarik? Loool They should go for Osee or make something huge like try and go for JKS since Liquid has lots of money
2020-05-21 15:11
+grim
2020-05-21 15:15
Yeah very good brain, kick IGL and take washed up rifler instead
2020-05-21 15:17
+badfallen, IGL and Awoope. Oh and +Kassad, adren - > analyst.
2020-05-21 15:21
#73
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Germany EvilMorty 
+lekrO
2020-05-21 21:51
#74
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Poland Envy_Fan 
I'd go for Alex or Lekr0
2020-05-21 21:53
tarik?
2020-05-21 21:54
#77
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0 
Liquid needs to roster change, they need a better coach. They need a psychologist.
2020-05-21 21:56
they got a psychologist according to a vlog
2020-05-22 17:03
+Cooper +Kassad
2020-05-22 02:04
#82
fer | 
Brazil lumberking 
fer
2020-05-22 02:06
#83
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Denmark Treogtredive 
ROFL, Tarik IGL? You gotta be joking. -Stewie -nitr0 +*Insert player* +ALEX +Kassad as coach
2020-05-22 02:06
+ ALEX
2020-05-22 02:09
#85
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North America toxicthegod 
cooper as main awp stew to igl rifle
2020-05-22 02:17
-stew - nitr0 +fallen +fer
2020-05-22 02:38
Fuk uff
2020-05-22 10:23
Why would you ever, EVER want fucking botik in your team. He and botislaw should just retire.
2020-05-22 10:24
#98
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
+5 Snakislaw and Snakrik
2020-05-22 17:00
ur basically saying: "hey guys let me ruin Liquid and completely kill them" thats what ur saying?
2020-05-22 10:24
lekro
2020-05-22 10:26
#93
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Slovakia rapidbruv 
-nitr0 +xccurate
2020-05-22 13:04
Keep nitr0 kick stew2k and pick autimatic
2020-05-22 13:05
#97
flusha | 
Cambodia PigFace 
Nitr0 adds more to the team than Mr Valorant2k
2020-05-22 16:58
#100
ZywOo | 
Europe @LEDGER 
Stanislaw
2020-05-22 17:01
#106
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Qatar VDC953 
-nitr0 -stewie2k +daps +autimatic
2020-05-22 17:08
lets kick the IGL for 1 or 2 bots may stew have the IGL talent that he hides for a long time
2020-05-22 20:26
#112
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Brazil MimimiBR 
Fallen
2020-05-22 20:27
#113
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Japan Legoshi 
-stew -nitr0 +Daps +Breezhe/cerq/auti/ethan
2020-05-22 20:29
#117
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Germany snicxx 
-lulquit +1/2 EG + 1/2 GenG + Eilige ?
2020-05-22 21:00
#122
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Japan Legoshi 
yes
2020-05-23 02:55
-twistzz-nitr0-noob2k +Golden/Lekr0+hallzerk+Nivera/Lucky
2020-05-22 21:02
that would never happen in a million years
2020-05-23 03:55
#129
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Brazil eumesmo 
i would like to see brehze in that line, maybe another person can awp, maybe they don't need a fix awper.
2020-05-23 03:59
+daps. igl, building teams king
2020-05-23 04:40
naf main awp
2020-05-23 04:40
#135
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United States hoobit 
Stew is igling right now
2020-05-23 05:19
#136
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North America Tic0 
+Fallen (Unlikely but imagine....)
2020-05-23 05:53
PLS NO TARIK! Tarik will just kick someone to bring in Snakislaw.
2020-05-23 05:56
#138
Brehze | 
Russia MH- 
+ new nitr0
2020-05-23 05:57
+seized
2020-05-23 07:14
syrsoN and put nitr0 on coach and adreN as analyst nitr0 is that loud voice that liquid needs alongside stewie, adreN+nitr0 would be one of the best duos when it comes to strats and syrsoN is prob the best upcoming awper rn, better than hallzerk for sure but that’s very unlikely tbf
2020-05-23 07:26
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