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Olof vs Dev1ce: who is the better all time player?
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United States NA_1_OCEAN_EU_0_OCEAN 
Let’s just look at some stats: HLTV Top 20 Placings: Olof - 12, 1, 8, 19 Dev1ce- 20, 3, 3, 5, 2, 3 MVPs: Dev1ce - 15 MVPs - 2 Major MVPs Olof - 6 MVPs - 1 Major MVP Tournament wins: Dev1ce - 24 LAN Wins - 4 Major Wins Olof - 25 LAN Wins - 2 Major Wins Major Placements: Dev1ce - 4 x 1st place, 5 x 3rd place, 5 x QF, 1 x GS Olof - 2 x 1st place, 2 x 2nd place, 3 x 3rd place, 7 x QF, 1 x GS All Time Rating: Dev1ce: 1.17 Olof: 1.07 So, given these statistics, who does hltv think is the GOAT of CSGO? Should f0rest be in contention as well?
2020-05-21 16:03
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Device, 100% device. Since astralis was formed Device only has 3 events with a lower than 1.0 rating, Olof has that in just the last 3 events.
2020-05-21 16:05
olof is old and played longer, he droped of since 2018 with the last 2 months being the alltime worst form, we cant compere them just yet, when both stop playing cs we will have a better picture
2020-05-21 16:37
We can, device of anything has continued to improve. Device for the last 3 years has been better than olof in 2015.
2020-05-21 16:39
I don't agree with that... Olof 2014 2015 2016 and 2017 is I think the best performance ever, better than anyone else
2020-05-22 01:08
Olof 2014 1.11 2015 1.15 2016 1.08 2017 1.11 avg 1.12 Dev 2014 1.15 2015 1.16 2016 1.19 2017 1.15 avg 1.16 s1mple 2014 1.19 2015 1.18 2016 1.15 2017 1.26 avg 1.20 Niko 2014 1.20 2015 1.19 2016 1.16 2017 1.23 avg 1.20 Cold 2015 1.16 2016 1.24 2017 1.25 avg 1.22 All of these players are better than Olof so no.
2020-05-22 01:14
Olof 2015: 4 MVP-s 10 events won 4 events 2nd placed 4 events 3rd placed 0,82 KPR in Majors 3746 total kills ONLY player above average at: kills, assists, least deaths, rifles, AWP, pistols, clutches and opening kills. You only look at ratings. In 2.0 rating he may not be the best, but just look at this above. In 1 year.
2020-05-22 01:19
But these event wins are down to his team thats not his individual level. There are supports now pulling better rating and having just as much impact as Olof back then. You do also realist rating is a reflection of all of your stats together so it is a good indicator especially of star players.
2020-05-22 01:22
But he was a member of the team that achieved this all. The best member of that team. And, CS:GO is a team-based game anyways. And Olof has still more #1-s than device and NiKo, same as s1mple.
2020-05-22 01:22
No, Olof has one, s1mple has one so thats wrong. Cold has 2.
2020-05-22 01:24
I said "same as s1mple", I meant that they both have one. Sure Coldzera has two, but Cold has half the trophies Olof has. (okay, not exactly, but Olof has 11 more)
2020-05-22 01:30
Cold has 2 majors and has never fallen off a cliff.
2020-05-22 01:32
Olof has two majors as well, and cold never had a break nor a massive surgery
2020-05-22 01:33
Cold also didnt have a team as good fnatic.
2020-05-22 01:33
Fair enough, but I'm a delusional Olof fan, I'll sit here all day and argue with you, you won't change my opinion. I respect all of them totally, but I always stand on Olof's side, whatever anyone says. Don't waste your time on me, I also see the statistics. Olof is a contender if it comes to who is the GOAT, and I'll always vote on him, no matter what
2020-05-22 01:36
Skgaming ? Fer fallen? Kidding me ?
2020-05-23 08:11
That team wasnt as good as Fnatic, great team but on 2015 fnatics level.
2020-05-23 08:35
Cold also wasn't entry like olof..cold was and is still a pussy baiter
2020-05-23 09:43
#160
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Europe twitchy_ 
It's ok, as long as he gets the pussy.
2020-05-23 11:21
#79
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
yeah, but why are you only focusing on 2015? lmao
2020-05-22 01:30
I would have had to write so much achievements, I stopped instead, and only focused on 2015
2020-05-22 01:31
#92
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
what achievements exactly? Olof hasn't been nearly as good in any other year compared to 2015.. in fact outside of 2015 he was never even the best player on his team.. maybe in 2016, but still he was far from being the best in the world still. After that he's been rather poor every single player on that list has been consistently great throughout their careers, while Olof basically had 1 outlier year in which he wasn't even as great as them during their best years or sometimes even their 2nd or 3rd best years suggesting that olof is somehow better than s1mple, cold or device is ridiculous
2020-05-22 01:35
2014 Olof #12. device #20. S1mple - Coldzera - 2015 Olof #1. device #3. s1mple - Coldzera - Sure, in 2016 and '17 all of them placed better, but he still was on the top 20. Olof still holds the record for the most LAN trophies. In that 4 years he's been incredibly consistent. Whatever you say, I'll stick to my opinion, and a lot of people think the same way
2020-05-22 01:41
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f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
i mean if you want consistent then lets just pick Guardian, who was 10th, 11th, 2nd, 17th, 9th and 11th respectively from 2013 to 2018 Olof has no argument over these guys he also still just made top20 4 times, while device made top20 6 times and only once was outside of top5.. in 2014, when he was 18
2020-05-22 01:48
What do you mean no argument lol. I also like GuardiaN, but no major no party. Olof has attended every single Major playoff except for 1. 25 LAN trophies, including 2 Majors. "oLoF hAS no ArGUmEnt oVEr thEEsE gUyS"
2020-05-22 01:47
lmao literally bringing up team achievements.. you know Flusha has 3 majors, better stats at majors, same major MVP titles, same amount of top20 placings while being more consistent, similar career stats... s1mple was literally never outside of top10 and that #8 placing in 2017 was a joke. And had the highest individual peak ever. Had two completely insane individual years back to back, played on level olof was never playing at. Always the best player on his team by far cold had two insane years, still has best stats at majors ever, had 1 down year last year, this year is back to form and playing better than olof who is his teammate. Also two time major champion, but also both won MVP's convincingly device is the most consistent player, won more majors, more mvps, more money, more everything, placing in top5 almost every year, playing at a much higher level almost every time, always the best player on his team
2020-05-22 01:57
"lmao bringing up team achievements" Oh sorry, didn't know. Since when was CS:GO not a team game?
2020-05-22 01:58
oh sorry, didn't know. Since when team achievements were a part of figuring out who is the best individually? didn't know that pronax was one of the greatest players ever
2020-05-22 01:59
You actually are stupid, I mean my bad don't know what I expected from delusional ruski
2020-05-22 01:59
you're fucking retarded if you think that olof still has an argument for being the greatest player he doesn't have the stats, doesn't have the wins, doesn't have the achievements.. he doesn't have anything above those guys
2020-05-22 02:00
the greatest OF ALL TIME. You know GOAT is short for that. At the moment, I can see he isn't good i fucking have eyes
2020-05-22 02:01
yeah, but it's not even about right now.. it's about the fact that his peak didn't even last that long.. hell someone like f0rest still has better stats overall.. is a better player right now, was a better before, was also in the top20 4 times. And i'm not even gonna mention whole 1.6 thing f0rest was literally better than Olof in every year, but 2015 and 2017
2020-05-22 02:04
Yes, but Olof's team achievements make him better. Of course he could't win a Major without those amazing teammates he had at fnatic. The GOAT is not 100% decided by individual skill imo. S1mple is the best individual atm, probably all time. NiKo's up there as well. But they are not as good team players as Olof or device, and maybe that is the reason they never won a major, altough both of them were to a final. The Boston major was terrifying to watch
2020-05-22 02:07
all of them are much better players than olof in every single situation.. Olof never had to carry his doghit teammates to a major final, s1mple did that twice, carried Liquid to first ever final for an NA team at the age of 18 just because he didnt win a couple of maps more doesn't make him a much worse player all of a sudden. In CS and in all sports when people talk about individuals they put too much emphasis on team achievements. Sure it's a team game, but that is exactly why it's almost pointless to put titles into the conversation. If it was individual game then titles would be proper way to judge players, but when you have 4 more players on your team it's stupid to put too much emphasis on team achievements i would understand if Olof was absolutely dominating during those 4 years, but he wasn't, even when he was named #1 player in 2015 he wasn't dominating
2020-05-22 02:14
"He wasn't dominating in 2015" stupidest thing I've ever seen. Not as much as s1mple in 2018, no. Obviously. But he is the #1 for a reason, HLTV rankinks are not stupid
2020-05-22 02:16
he wasn't dominating compared to other players that year.. he literally had lower or same rating as other players that year, the only time that happened was in 2014 when GeT_RiGhT won it and didn't have the highest rating. But some could make an argument that flusha should've won it realistically individually you could actually make the case someone like Guardian was every bit as good as olof and in general he had some of the worst stats out of all the players who were named best player of the year. He wasnt outright much better than everyone that year(and any other year obviously)
2020-05-22 02:22
No, but as I said, and you know as well, he has a lot of team achievements, and from THAT fnatic, probably he's the first that comes to your mind, that's why he was named #1, and is considered the GOAT
2020-05-22 02:24
i dunno for me the first one who comes on my mind is flusha.. i also don't understand how him placing #1 in just one year, in a year where he wasn't dominating others like some other players did previously or after, in a year where he didn't win the most mvps, didn't even have the best stats somehow makes him the GOAT.. or even puts him near that title even right after getting that #1 spot in 2015 he wasn't the GOAT, why on earth would he be the GOAT now?
2020-05-22 02:30
Most LAN trophies, most major playoffs, 2 times major winner, 4 times in top 20, and it still doesn't stop, but I will stop, because your reply will be "oh then pronax is a GOAT contender, and I'll try to explain, but it will just lead to a circle wich never finishes, so I am going to stop here, you did NOT change my opinion, and a lot of people think the same way as I do, a lot of people think the same way as you do, you know everything now, you know what I think, why I think he is the GOAT, you never accept those facts, I could say that device is only good because of Astralis, but we all know that is stupid, so as I said, I stop here, I still think Olof is the GOAT, and say what you like, i respect your opinion, you respect mine and everyone's happy. gn edited a misstpye
2020-05-22 02:36
well a lot of people share all kinds of stupid opinions.. just sayin'
2020-05-22 02:42
Okay, others think your opinion is stupidm wich I don't understand, but these people exist, and those ones as well who consider Olof the GOAT. Get over it. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean it's a stupid opinion or anything
2020-05-22 02:46
i'm fine with you and others havig an opinion, i just think it's a stupid fucking opinion
2020-05-22 03:46
Okay then. I'm also fine with you having a different opinion. I do not think, it's a stupid opinion, cause stats don't lie, so it would be retarded to call it a bad opinion
2020-05-22 12:02
+11
2020-05-22 07:41
#64
NiKo | 
Pakistan hawrU 
The problem is i dont know for sure but That is rating 1.0 back in 2015 Now hltv uses their new rating 2.0 So this might be the difference maker I think olof was better back then
2020-05-22 01:23
Well why are players the same year like device getting better ratings???
2020-05-22 01:24
#69
NiKo | 
Pakistan hawrU 
I mean they guy was comparing the ratings from 1.0 to 2.0
2020-05-22 01:26
Nikos stats are worthless, this guy chokes literally everytime it matters and is known as a groupstage hero. He also used his teammates as baits to boost his own stats (in mouz and now also in faze). He is a good player but not even top 20 when it comes to the best csgo players of all time lol
2020-05-22 01:30
WOW you are deluded.
2020-05-22 01:31
no i just get a headache when people throw in singleplayer guys like niko or simple when it is about being the best in a teamgame
2020-05-22 01:33
using 3 years for cold and 4 years for everyone else 0/8
2020-05-22 01:44
Because he wasnt around in 2014.
2020-05-22 01:54
+1
2020-05-21 16:39
Back in 2017 Olof was the GOAT, but dev1ces last 3 years is so much better than Olof's
2020-05-21 16:46
But by late 2017 early 2018 cold had won 2 majors and worlds best player twice.
2020-05-21 16:47
Yes, hard to decide, but then comes dev1ce and Astralis, and they rule the world
2020-05-21 16:49
#2
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
Device is the GOAT for sure, so consistent
2020-05-21 16:05
#3
Yugoslavia Momaq 
device goat lol only silver can think that
2020-05-21 16:05
#17
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Norway tobroe 
How is he not?
2020-05-21 16:18
How is he not?
2020-05-21 16:46
no #1, eco kill farmer... look at simple (huge impact, was #1, best aim, fun to watch playstyle...) or coldzera(was #1 twice, also huge impact, also fun playstyle, clutch player, good when it matters most)
2020-05-21 17:46
yeah, baiting is fun, i agree. and imagine actually being dumb enough to think device is actually farming the eco kills. he never rushes on anti eco, maybe like 1 of 10 cases. the team just goes to the site hes holding and he kills them, s1mple as that. hes playing anti ecos like he would a full buy.
2020-05-21 17:51
you can think what you want but the truth is that device is a low impact eco fragger, with a boring playstyle
2020-05-21 20:18
lol.
2020-05-21 20:19
thats why he won tons of titles while simple is failing around in most tournaments ok
2020-05-22 01:28
s1mple is trash, device, zywoo, coldzera >>>>>>>>> s1mple
2020-05-21 18:06
+11111
2020-05-22 00:58
#140
ropz | 
Europe Fatalist 
lul what... XDDDDD
2020-05-22 07:53
"All time" or "All round"? flusha is the GOAT tho, no question about that
2020-05-21 16:08
there is question about it tbh
2020-05-21 16:10
Meh...for me flusha is like his own chapter...never considered the best but hes like unconteated in what hes bringing/brought to the game tbh
2020-05-21 16:48
He’s a contender, but the goat of csgo is very difficult to decide. I’d say flusha has a good running considering 1/3 of the scene thinks he’s cheating
2020-05-21 16:19
+1
2020-05-21 16:52
too many aimlock clips to be GOAT
2020-05-22 01:27
#5
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Portugal NabasKi 
Neither of those is the goat, but device is undoubtedly better than olof.
2020-05-21 16:09
Who is the GOAT in your opinion then?
2020-05-22 01:14
#72
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Portugal NabasKi 
f0rest.
2020-05-22 01:27
fair enough, but not in GO. Maybe in 1.6
2020-05-22 01:31
#82
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Portugal NabasKi 
Yeah, that's what I mean
2020-05-22 01:31
In Counter-Strike overall, f0rest is the GOAT imo. But in CS:GO, it's decided between Cold, Olof and dev1ce. I think
2020-05-22 01:32
#87
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Portugal NabasKi 
In that case I'd say device.
2020-05-22 01:32
devve
2020-05-21 16:10
#8
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Europe ipufosenia 
Magisk > device so its olof
2020-05-21 16:12
Magisk > Olof
2020-05-21 16:16
dennis>olof much better than olof.
2020-05-22 12:36
#9
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Cyprus shmoe 
what? lol.
2020-05-21 16:13
rating doesnt mean shit. astralis was more dominant than fnatic.
2020-05-21 16:14
guess who was the best player in astralis
2020-05-22 12:33
why would f0rest be in contention? he is top 10 of all time max
2020-05-21 16:14
#14
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
+1
2020-05-21 16:16
#13
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Serbia TheSerb 
Dev is so good
2020-05-21 16:16
#15
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
can we stop with the forest meme? it's probably device > olof > s1mple > whatever at the moment
2020-05-21 16:16
#22
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India _Jazz_ 
coldzera is somewhat in between device and s1mple
2020-05-21 16:31
#36
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
ye perhaps
2020-05-21 16:48
Devve definitely.
2020-05-21 16:17
fallen is the goat
2020-05-21 16:18
#19
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Germany ohmeingutness 
Flusha
2020-05-21 16:19
device no doubt
2020-05-21 16:19
#23
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India _Jazz_ 
Looks like device. But also tell us the details of coldzera. He has good achievements too.
2020-05-21 16:32
2 great years are not enough in an 8y old game to be the GOAT but he is surely top10
2020-05-22 01:24
no argument. it is device by a mile.
2020-05-21 16:33
? device easily
2020-05-21 16:34
#29
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Sweden RekkleM 
I like olof but he has dropped of really hard compared to dev1ce, dev1ce has been so consitent at the top for such a long time it's incredible
2020-05-21 16:42
olof obviously
2020-05-21 16:43
#31
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Romania Iosif 
You simply can't decide a "GOAT" in anything before that anything ends. You can say, the "the greatest until this moment", but not "off all time".
2020-05-21 16:45
#39
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United Kingdom jellywank 
neither lmao
2020-05-21 17:23
olof ez device never been no 1. olof done it all. ez /closed
2020-05-21 17:25
olof because device had a better team to support him on those stats.
2020-05-21 17:48
olof has been on the most stacked rosters ever in his career.
2020-05-21 18:26
And device has been on the most consistent roster ever in his career. When olof was good, he was the best but in device's era, he wasn't most dominant as one player.
2020-05-21 18:28
#76
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
yeah, but device still has been the best player almost every single time on that team, while Olof hasn't been the best player at any time outside of 2015 and Olof has been rather poor for a long time now, while device is consistently top3-4 player
2020-05-22 01:29
Partly I agree but olof had a wrist injury and he had an unluckiness after that, his team fell apart. I still think old olof was better that device's peak tho.
2020-05-22 02:51
i don' think so.. device came 2nd in 2018 only losing out to s1mple's greatest year ever and then came 3rd last year to s1mple and ZywOo who had absolutely insane years. He had much tougher competition in those years also while the injury is quite unfortunate it's his problem. It should be counted as a disadvantage, not an advantage
2020-05-22 03:49
It's a disadvantage for his career and it really changed things. Still, I hold my opinions same.
2020-05-22 11:56
faze never won grand slam tho
2020-05-21 18:24
#52
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Germany snicxx 
I was always fan of device. I really love olof and always hope that he step up huge in every serie even when it's against astralis..BUT! olofmeister is more like a neymar who stepped up massive in a short time (3-4 years) then his luck left him. Device played so well since he touches the mouz.. and was even great with TSM. He is good and a guy you always can count on since years. greatest of all time 1. device 2.olof 3.xyp9x 4.simple (just because of his raw skills).. bad for him that he never had a real good team. only russian defectos
2020-05-22 01:05
I'd say Cold instead of Xyp. Amazing clucth player, and really skillful, but never been better than #13, no major MVP (only 1 MVP overall) and still "just" a support player. I respect him a LOT, but Coldzera has to be considered when it comes to who's the GOAT. For me it's 1. Olof (just 'cause I'm a fan of him, even though stats don't lie) 2. Device 3. Coldzera 4. S1mple (Amazingly skillful, but no Major title, but he is a monster individually) 5. GuardiaN (again, I'm a fan, but he was really good 2014-2018, and he was the real Boston Major MVP)
2020-05-22 01:13
#59
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United States HLTV_RUNNER 
+1
2020-05-22 01:19
#112
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Germany snicxx 
yea I forgot about cold. yeah he is definatly #3 Im not sure about simple. I mean he is a really good aimer, but sometimes he looks not really smart at all. Xyp3x could lead a new youngsters team to a titel more likely than simple. I mean all this stuff comes together when they planing all this tactics.. the genius strats etc etc. simple hasn't stepping up when it counts yet. I hope they will get a better NaVi with simple, mir and sh1ro + electronic and a good head behind it.
2020-05-22 02:12
Yes, altough, I think Xyp hasn't got many MVPs cause he's playing in the same team as device, so it's pretty hard. I could place him or even dupreeh 4th place
2020-05-22 02:14
#117
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Germany snicxx 
yes! I mean u see how much worse astralis are without glave. such players never having those mvps but they are so important. too underrated. pronax for example in the fnatic era was never the mvp but for sure one of the most important one with olof.
2020-05-22 02:16
Yes, I don't understand idiots who - when I mention Olof's team achievements - come up with "iS pROnAx a GoaT cOntEndER thEN??!!?!!? No he is not, but he played a huge part in fnatic's success
2020-05-22 02:18
#120
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Germany snicxx 
true. most of the time players who was never playing higher than dmg
2020-05-22 02:23
Like this guy below "olof is not even top 10" wonder what's going on inside his head
2020-05-22 02:25
#124
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Germany snicxx 
he never watched cs go before 2019. Probably say that all ex nip players are trash too and stuff like this. i stopped mind this trashtalkers
2020-05-22 02:28
I am glad there are people like you who actually know something about E-sports. But too bad, that there are a lot of those dudes who have never seen CS:GO Esports before 2019, and only care about rating and impact and stuff
2020-05-22 02:30
olof is not even top 10
2020-05-22 01:10
-1/8
2020-05-22 01:20
Device no question
2020-05-22 01:10
you posted the stats, device is literally better in everything :D olof was great but only for a pretty short time and he also kinda abused the op tek9 (i give him credit for doing it better than anyone else but still ...)
2020-05-22 01:24
#70
Luken | 
Argentina Pochoo 
wtf is this comparison
2020-05-22 01:26
retardation. A guy thats been one of the 2-3 best in the world for 5 years to a guy who hasnt even been a contender since 2016.
2020-05-22 01:28
#84
Luken | 
Argentina Pochoo 
I agree
2020-05-22 01:32
#155
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United Kingdom ryan498 
You have olofmeister flair but every thread I see you on your bashing him? People like you are the reason people have the UK
2020-05-23 08:40
Im not blasting him im being honest, hes clearly a great player but in the last few years has definitely tarnished his legacy a bit.
2020-05-23 08:48
#163
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United Kingdom ryan498 
You clearly are. Every thread you bash him and say he should be kicked and everything. obviously faking the flair but you do you
2020-05-23 17:57
Well he should be kicked for playing badly. I dont want him to suck he just does.
2020-05-23 19:46
#74
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
device easily olof is nowhere near him
2020-05-22 01:28
I think the stats answer themselves, while Olof clearly peaked much higher than device, device has maintained consistency at a level we hardly ever see for such a long time, definitely device
2020-05-22 01:33
flawless logic xd. if were talking purely stats, device has reached a much higher peak than olof as well as much better consistency. even outside of just stats, device has a higher peak than olof.
2020-05-22 02:02
Doesn't Fnatic have 3 major wins? They won the very first one as well
2020-05-22 01:34
#97
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United States SparklingBlue 
but olof only has 2
2020-05-22 01:45
Ohhhhh icic he wasn't in Fnatic back then
2020-05-22 04:39
#99
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France Nicolito 
Olof isn’t even top 2... Theres coldzera, s1mple and NiKo above him
2020-05-22 01:46
you know Olof was a former #1 as well right? This was around the time Coldzera joined LG, S1mple in teams like Hellraiser and NiKo in Mousesports. Olofmeister was extremely smart and had way insane aim back then which helped Fnatic dominate in 2015 (Hence their era) and why he got #1. However, he had a wrist injury which is why he aint as good as back then. I'd say Olof was higher than coldzera and NiKo mechanically and gamesense, and better than s1mple based on gamesense. If it wasn't for his injury, he wouldve still been known as "another level" back then. That was Olof's impact
2020-05-22 04:45
#147
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France Nicolito 
Yes that’s why I put him in my top 5 all time.
2020-05-22 15:55
I categorize people as GOATS from stuff like mechanics, game sense and impact to the game. Get_Right, Olofmeister and Coldzera are definitely my top 3, with dev1ce and S1mple being in my top 5.
2020-05-23 07:18
#158
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France Nicolito 
Fair enough, i respect your ranking!
2020-05-23 11:13
I would like to know yours as well please hahaha
2020-05-25 01:36
#111
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Poland JKG 
IMO Olof is barerly TOP10 of all time He had 2 great years (2014,15) and that's it TBH. 2016 was good until that wrist injury (Not sure if #8 was deserved, but HLTV TOP20's was always shit, they have no idea what they are giving these spots for. Once it's all about tournament wins, once it's all about stats. No one cares about that anyway) And he is falling with every month right now, while all players like Device, Coldzera, Flusha etc. are still playing great on the highest level In 2 years olof will not be considered TOP10 of all time, and be forgotten just like Snax
2020-05-22 02:07
#123
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Turkey DebbSoray 
f0rest of course
2020-05-22 02:26
you guys really didn't see just how above the rest (even forest) get right was in the 87-0 era of csgo huh
2020-05-22 02:34
#132
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Turkey Cormack 
Dev1ce better to stats but olofmeister is GOD Olof>>>>dev1ce
2020-05-22 02:54
Shoulda made a strawpoll
2020-05-22 03:01
Device for sure he has him beat on literally every aspect ever they are not comparable anymore. If this was like 2017 before Astralis took over maybe you could compare them but in 2020 Device is running laps around Olof. Device top 20 6 times, 5 times in the top 5 4 majors (most of all time), 2 major MVPs (most of all time) 15 MVPs (most of all time) Grand Slam including MVPs in some of those events. 2018 he broke get_right's record of 6 MVP in a single year, winning 7 MVPs in 2018/ Ranked #2 in the world Most consistent player of all time 7 years as an elite player, missed out in top 20 in 2013 because he wasn't active enough, he was already a top player with Copenhagen Wolves. Like Olof he's also attended every major except he has 4 of them. Way better statistics, better rifler, better awper, better team player, better looking etc.
2020-05-22 04:18
olof higher peak, device sustained a good level for the entirety of CSGO, but he was never on top.
2020-05-22 12:34
imagine calling someone the goat who never made top1 even though his team was the most dominant one in the history of cs. ecovice fans are so delusional.
2020-05-22 13:37
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device is no question the GOAT of CS:GO. Olof doesn't even come close. I'd say GeT_RiGhT or Coldzera comes closer for the title. Peep my thread from a few days ago
2020-05-23 07:38
Get_right? Drunk or high?
2020-05-23 08:16
#162
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United States Festive_ 
number 1 two years in a row? many mvps and trophies?
2020-05-23 16:55
1.Olof 2.coldzera 3.device Rest doesn't matter /Closed
2020-05-23 08:16
All newfags hate olof 🤣..they really don't know who he is and what his peak was > S1mple just cuz he was the entry when he became top1 and guess what coldzera was a baiter(still baits) ..S1mple biggest baiter ever and zywoo he also baits and about 1.15 rating ..it was rating 1.0 ...and about get_right he also wasn't the entry and also 2013 csgo was new and most people were still getting familiar to it ...2014 was gr8 for him tbh ...
2020-05-23 08:21
In terms of legacy, Olof has a bigger one. Of course device has more accomplishments (trophies, wins, etc.), and has been better over a longer period of time, but olof revolutionised so many maps in CSGO, like Overpass CT-side (I'm not only referring to olof-boost, I'm talking about how fnatic and him specifically changed how overpass was played), CT aggression on Train, CT defense and rotating on Cache.
2020-05-23 11:16
Olof total bot now
2020-05-23 11:22
Device pretty good, imo top 30 out there, real talk.
2020-05-25 01:37
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