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TACO vs support players
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
when we talk about taco here, people always come with the same excuses... "it's his roles" "cause he is support player" ok, come compare with other support players.. TACO all time lan 0.91 last 3 months 0.94 | agaist top5 - | top10 0.92 | top30 0.90 | top50 0.93 he is only getting more than 0.93 rating against top51+ teams GOLDEN all time lan 0.94 last 3 months 0.93 | against top5 0.94 | top10 0.98 | top20 0.97 | top30 0.92 |top50 0.92 golden has the same support roles and still being igl in the most teams that was part, and still having a better lan all time rating, last months has doing good against t1/t2, downing his rating only agaist top bad teams while TACO is only playing good against shit teams, and bad at t1/t2 STYKO is the pretty same player as taco, suporting roles in every team, doind the solo bombs and etc. all time lan rating 0.97 last 3 months 1.08 top 5 1.12 | top10 1.01 | top20 0.99 | top 30 1.09 | top50 1.08 being the same kind of player, playing in top teams, and today being part of a t3 team like TACO and mibr STYKO STILL being better than taco in any time and agaisnt all tier of teams. HOW CAN PEOPLE STILL DEFEND TACO? i love taco as person, and believe in your talent as a support player, he was very good in liquid, even better than STYKO, BUT taco and MIBR doesn't work, it's simple. i can say anothers players like GLA1VE who do a lot of same taco's roles. but to long topic.
2020-05-22 11:28
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#1
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Russia nobody_cars 
TACO 2 majors Styko 0 majors
2020-05-22 11:29
/closed
2020-05-23 02:18
How could anyone be worse than Golden? This shouldnt be allowed
2020-05-27 04:47
TACO_1_COLDZERA_STYKO_0_COLDZERA
2020-05-23 05:23
lmao
2020-05-23 15:24
#64
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Brazil FerW 
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-05-24 01:02
#65
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United States Neo_is_a_joke 
lol
2020-05-24 01:03
#107
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Other Waduhek 
Xaxaxaxaxxaxxaxa
2020-05-25 14:49
STYKO_1_MYKONOS_LULCO_0
2020-05-25 21:38
lmao
2020-05-26 04:50
LOL
2020-05-27 04:56
+1
2020-05-23 05:33
+1 /closed
2020-05-25 14:17
#106
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Other Waduhek 
That's the reason people defend him, taco gud men
2020-05-25 14:48
Vampeta 1 world cup - Messi 0
2020-05-26 04:49
#2
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Denmark Christian21324 
and who MiBR need ? Name a player who can possibly replace taco
2020-05-22 11:32
#3
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Denmark bb123 
MIBR disband ez fix
2020-05-22 11:32
#11
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
meyern could replace him. meyern has a insane aim, after some months of wacthing taco's demos and listening fallen he can do a better job than taco. meyern great problem was the pression slow self-estimate in game. and it wont cost anything to mibr pocket. the perfect guy is obviouly kscerato, but wont happen.
2020-05-22 16:59
did you mean "low self-esteem"?
2020-05-22 17:03
#13
ropz | 
Netherlands Yesimjojo 
agreed, meyern wasnt the problem it was in his head
2020-05-22 17:06
I was taking you seriously until I read this one comment. With superior aim to Taco, not playing the underprivileged positions Taco plays, Meyern had worse stats, and was a worse fragger. Taco was always bating for him and he couldn't do shit. How can that be? There's a simple explanation. He has no game sense. His timing was always off. He always bought the wrong fights. He was always in the wrong place. He died with all his grenades, all the time. That didn't change slightly in the 5 months with MIBR. Why would they trust the hard roles Taco play to this guy that has aim, and nothing more? It is way preferable to have Taco, that has everything but aim. Why the fuck are you suggesting this guy? Do you think there is any less pressure playing Taco roles? Solo bombing, entry killing, dealing with 80% of the hate. You said yourself that one of his problems was the pressure, but you're suggesting to double the amount of pressure on him. And why the fuck would you have KSCERATO playing Taco roles? That would be a waste. You're absolutely insane. Art and Vini are the Furia equivalents to Taco. And the only MIBR players that can substitute Taco are Fer and KNG.
2020-05-22 17:25
#34
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Argentina Shuanx 
Meyern had better stats than Taco but it is true he is not the solution, nor he was the problem
2020-05-23 02:13
#45
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
"With superior aim to Taco, not playing the underprivileged positions Taco plays, Meyern had worse stats, and was a worse fragger. Taco was always bating for him and he couldn't do shit." you literally doesn't watch and knew any mibr games or tatics kkkkkkk meyern played suport roles always. inferno he got taco role in "areia", while taco go to COLDZERA roles, a star role in "xuxa". vertigo meyern was solo bomb. dust meyern was bunker, the suport role in A site, famous suports like gla1ve do this role. mirage meyern was the A bait, same suport role loved for boltz, while fallen, kng and fer got the free(star) positions. train meyern was the suport for fallen and fer in A bomb. you literally doesn't saw mibr games, or doesn't undertand nothing about cs. in mibr system you got 2 guys doing the suport/bait in each bomb while kng, fer and fallen got all freedom. meyern and taco were these guys (only in inferno not, cause fer and fallen B and taco in COLDZERA role, while meyern was the bait in "areia") 1. taco never baited for meyern, the only bomb they played togheter, meyern baited for taco. 2. meyern doing the same role suporting the trio had better stats than taco. 3. game sense, timing, dueling in right time, this are things that an coach need to teach the player to do, fallen kicked our coach and probably doesn't want teach meyern, and i have 100% sure that taco was teached back then. meyern can do easile a better job than taco if he take all taco positions and watched taco demos, what taco do is SUPER EASY in most part of maps, like mirage, it's only jumping, if you see a enemy you throw a bomb, got one position and try to win time and kill the first and be traded, but taco can't do not even that cause his shit aim. about kscerato, i'm not saying kscerato in taco roles, take trk to taco roles, kng to suport A players and kscerato in the old COLD roles like L (cat) in mirage, "xuxa", "liga" in train.. etc..
2020-05-23 15:21
+111 -taco +meyern
2020-05-26 04:48
+1 kids cant understand taco's value for this teams. Those are the same that say -VINI -arT, they think fragging is all that matters.
2020-05-25 14:22
Yes Kscerato too good but any Furia Player Atm want to leave and Furia wont kick anyone
2020-05-22 17:28
meyern is bad, he has a good aim but he don't know how to use utillity properly. I remember Fallen reviewing a game in his stream and noted multiple where meyner could change the outcome of situation if he used the utillity properly.
2020-05-22 17:29
#27
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Brazil kMalone 
Meyern support? Omegalul. Meyern is a great player, but he isn't support and will demand a lot training to test him in this function
2020-05-23 01:53
#46
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
yes, he was suport in most part of maps. and all players need training, then whatever
2020-05-23 15:22
#59
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Sweden Greta_Dumberg 
he wasnt wtf u r clearly wrong but still dares to keep bullshitting brazilians are so delusional omfg
2020-05-24 00:48
yes, he was. he was doing info positions and trade positions, it's suporting...
2020-05-25 14:46
How is he support if he dies with all nades?
2020-05-25 14:20
the suport is who throw nades? it's all? kkkk
2020-05-25 14:45
meyern should be the entry, great aim, 0 game sense, best role for him and taco can't win duels his aim so bad
2020-05-24 07:20
Taco has a fine aim, look the first half against liquid on overpass
2020-05-25 14:21
this was the only map he played good, and only at t side, so his aim still bad, look at other games, btw he was one of the worst in this game
2020-05-25 21:39
taco has alwayss been a bait for fer, fallen, coldzera, thats why they love him
2020-05-22 11:34
cs has changed and you can't win tournaments 4 v 5 anymore, they should finally understand it
2020-05-23 02:02
Yes u can, and cs didnt changed this much, only astralis reached a 5star roster and won everything. They're the only team who manage to do that. All consolidated top2~20 teams have a "support" player. g2 is the only team next to astralis in this aspect on the top20 atm.
2020-05-23 05:31
No you cant win 4v5 anymore. Every team have at least a support player, same with astralis. In order to win tournaments, your support player need to frag as well because they are the one who need to clutch. Every teams with an 'Era' have this player. Astralis - Xy9px Liquid - Nitro/ Twistzz Fnatic - Flusha/Krimz Mouz - ChrisJ You can only win 4v5 when you barely fail your execution and your second entry can guarantee at least 2 kills every round (like prime cold)
2020-05-24 01:00
I looked for in some tournament and there's some tier 1 1/2 that 1 player disbalanced the hole tournament and won even with the fifth not fragging well. But overall as stats concerned the team which really wins have all 5 players with positive ratings and the last guy not bad at fragging, you're right.
2020-05-25 06:04
But i still have a impression that some tournaments are really carried by one man sometimes, even with the stats saying otherside. Some players even not making so many frags can be so impactul in important rounds. But i know the same way can be thought about the fifth player too.
2020-05-25 06:10
i didnt look...but i think the 5 players with positive ratings happens just when a really one sided games happens...and just astralis can do that with others tier 1 teams...when teams have closes games theres always one player get negatives ratings... i think must important the game always the cluches and the close round, they can lead to two or three rounds because of the economy...and winning this type of round thats missing for mibr right now... for me taco doing his part...supposed kngv,trk need to cluch but i cant see they doing that right now...liquid game is a example, in after plants and cluches liquid won, i remember twiss winning two or three rounds in 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 3. Fallen clutch sometimes,fer was never the type to cluch,he can get two or three kills in beginning or middle round but always losing 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2...i remember sk/luminosity era coldzera and fnx cluching all the time and fnx rating or k/d its was normal, but mibr dont have this type of player right now...
2020-05-25 22:48
i really dont care about mibr so i wont read the last part. If u didnt look, go take a look, see for yourself :D
2020-05-26 04:41
"i really dont care about mibr so i wont read the last part" ok nah...too much work look alot of maps and see its a close game or not and look the rating of every player to have a conclusive answer...
2020-05-26 16:16
OMEGALUL
2020-05-27 04:21
OMEGALUL
2020-05-27 17:21
You can though
2020-05-23 05:34
#90
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Bolivia cLutcheR7 
We won 16-12 with 1 bot noob!
2020-05-25 09:20
dud... listen ... Fallen won 2 majors and so many other trophies ... u didn't won anything or even played a competitive game before... if he thinks that it's a good choice to keep taco on the team .. WHO THE FUCK are YoU ? . .... seriously
2020-05-22 11:43
#7
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
???????????????????? retard? i never wanted play comp, and fallen salary is cause i watch him, without the fans without mibr. following your logic, we can't disagree from bolsonaro or lula about the country, cause they were president and we don't. finish the high school first
2020-05-22 15:49
what.....? fallen is there because of his talent .. same for taco ... they KNOW how to play better than 99.99999999999999999999999999% of everyone here in HLTV .... president it's a "population thing" any dumb guy can win by saying anything .... not from his talent or for being smart .... ''finish the high school first" LUL.... u can't even interpret.. dumbass kekw
2020-05-22 20:09
#26
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
presidents had the talent to win elections, most part of the presidents are super carismatic and speaker they are voted by own merit, like mibr players are there per own merit
2020-05-23 01:46
what the fuck did i just READ Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Jesus
2020-05-23 05:04
#47
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
retard? can't understand a simple analogy? ok br being br
2020-05-23 15:24
Bolsonaro is there because WE PUT HIM there ... got it ?.... taco and fallen are there because of their OWN talent..... omg
2020-05-23 20:36
#53
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
i didn't put bolsonaro there lol the only differenc betwen is that people cheer for bolsonaro directly while taco and fallen has a parliamentary system, we cheer to mibr and mibr choose the "right guys" both are there cause us, if nobody cared cs or mibr, both would working in mac donalds.
2020-05-23 21:25
they didn't take our money, they don't put rules on us, they dont defined how we have to act in a pandemic situation ... they're just playing a fucking game....
2020-05-23 21:31
#55
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
he can't give me orders, but they are there cause the fans this is the AnAlOgY
2020-05-24 00:39
ok..but... you're telling me that taco isn't a good player correct ? and fallen, fer, kng are saying that he is .... so .. why should someone care about you opinion ? what makes you a person that know what you're talking about ? ... if fallen says that taco is a good player ... y should someone care about all those 13yo kids on hltv ?
2020-05-24 00:44
#57
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
wft? players in the same team, always will say that they teammates are gods, if they are saying only "good", there is something...
2020-05-24 00:45
so..whats the point ? if they're keeping him ....soo ???
2020-05-24 00:47
#60
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
they have personal relations out game, they are partner in some business, they are friends .. but back then when when fnx was kicked, the only thing that imports to fallen was "good results and playing good". why doesn't use the same way to think with taco like did with fnx?
2020-05-24 00:49
so .. you're telling me that fallen dont want to have good results ? what are you ? his brother ? ... just because they're losing it doesn't mean that he dont wanna win ...
2020-05-24 01:11
#84
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
not better than fnx time, today they are t2 or t3 in NA fnx time still t1
2020-05-25 08:00
#75
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Brazil ActuallyOcto 
TACO was kicked once and, if i remember well, they picked him back in the first chance.
2020-05-24 06:45
#85
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
if i remeber, taco want leave ... they picked him back cause he was playing very nice in liquid, but taco doesn't fit fallens culture in game.
2020-05-25 08:01
That was a bad analogy.. politicians are not there by their own merits. If you didnt accomplish anything in CS GO, every critic you say isnt relevant because you dont know the game. Who are you to say what is good and what is bad? I mean, it is logical, no? Would you trust a surgery to a guy without medicine college degree? So you that dont know anything abou CSGO is the man with all MIBR solutions? How did not they find you?????
2020-05-25 14:26
#115
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Brazil thypirate 
HAHAHAHAH FALLEN SALARY IS CAUSE I WATCH HIM!!!!!! meu deus mano vai pra escola
2020-05-25 21:44
#20
steel | 
Brazil tofblu 
You should have an "fan of fer" before your flag with that type of argument
2020-05-22 17:34
He is right in his own way. If you that dont know anything about CS GO have all solutions for mibr, how didnt they find you yet?
2020-05-25 14:27
And who said they want or need the solution if they'll retire in less than 3 years or so anyways? They're milking on all the money coming from the revenues that WE mibirlul fans generate, my dude, otherwise this team wouldn't even exist because they always get eliminated. In fact, it's been more than two years since they suck, so how tf do you think they get prize money for if they don't win anything? Not to mention, they're rich and don't care about keyboard warriors like you on the internet defending their brand. Y'all delusional.
2020-05-27 05:24
Taco is a entry fragger... Not support
2020-05-22 11:44
#10
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
he is a suport as CT and do a lot of suport roles as T too, like domain palace in mirage. as T later kng was did the most entries, and taco still bad. this "entry" role almost not exist in cs anymore, it's rare a team making execusion with an entry, most times has 2 or 3 entrys togheter from different places.
2020-05-22 16:42
Wtf... He plays as solo bomb on CT how he can be a support?
2020-05-23 07:42
#49
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
??????? solo bomb is a suport role. bruh????? you think suport role is throwing nades?????? wft????????
2020-05-23 15:26
Exactly... Throwing granades ia a support role
2020-05-25 21:16
yes, 100% of cs players are suport, less meyern cause he isn't throw nades kkkk
2020-05-26 14:25
Players have multiple roles, not a single one. Taco is frequently on both. Also "support" is the almost non existing role, if you had to assign a single role to a player.
2020-05-22 17:19
it all depends on what you mean by 'support role' entry fragging (defined as going in first every time) is the most difficult and stat-draining role on t side by far im not sure if taco still does it at mibr because I don't watch tier 3 cs but if he does, it would be safe to call him support
2020-05-23 02:00
Oh, so you stopped watching fnatic games?
2020-05-23 07:51
i wrote 'tier 3 cs', not 'top 3 cs'.
2020-05-25 14:31
+1 rekting my delusional compatriots.. nice Also..good explanation. But besides entry, TACO used to do a lot o support getting info, setting nades for holds/aggression.. nowadays i dont really know.
2020-05-27 04:59
+1 Every team got different roles for their Support player
2020-05-24 01:01
He and trk split the entries. At CT taco plays solo bomb. He has the worst roles and still put a 0.98 rating on a subperforming team.
2020-05-25 14:29
thorin: olofmeister should retire also thorin: taco, a player who has an all- time raiting of FUCKING 0.94, is doing a perfectly good job
2020-05-22 15:51
Thorin: Stats aren't everything, but if you believe that much in them, there's no defending Olof. Recent olofmeister stats are very similar to Taco's. Against top50 teams, Taco stats are better, olof can't have 1.0+ rating even against bad teams, while Taco has them quite often. Against top20 and superior, pretty much the same. Usually bad stats, once every two months a quite impressive rating. But stats are not everything. Taco's job is harder, and for Olof stats to be equal or worse it is a freaking disgrace.
2020-05-22 17:25
taco is not even half the player olof is rn obviously when olof is thrown in garbage positions he's gonna have shit stats. Taco has been playing these shit positions his entire career so obviously his stats are gonna be slightly better, which doesn't change the fact that he was never good enough to play at the highest level
2020-05-22 19:07
Taco won 2 majors, that sounds good enough to play at the highest level to me. Coldzera, mvp of those majors, ranked as best player of 2016 and 2017, says Taco is the best team mate he had. (let's not forget that this includes one of the best IGL and AWP ever, FalleN) When that core didn't have Taco, their results were inferior to the results Taco was getting with Team Liquid. (that at the time, was way less prestigious) Now, I do understand if you say Taco can't fit anymore, that he's washed up and so on, but that he never did? That's bullshit. He wouldn't if he wasn't. But if you maintain that, it just makes it worse for your defense of Olof. People thought of this dude as the best to ever play the game, some still do. How much worse his aim and game sense must have gotten for it to be justifiable getting stats even slightly inferior than a guy that "was never good enough to play at the highest level"?
2020-05-22 20:20
+1 people like to hate the sucessful players
2020-05-25 14:31
I agree, but we still have to admit that Taco isn’t on his prime at all.
2020-05-26 05:25
The only reason why cold likes taco is because taco was his bait and btw, taco is trash, there are hundreds of entryfraggers doing better than he is. Even if taco had 100 majors, he would still be trash in MIBR. Period.
2020-05-27 05:29
He never leaves cuz they will never find someone as good as Taco to be a support player and play solo in the bombs. There's no brazilian to replace him, then he doesn't leave, which I think it's the best choice
2020-05-22 15:56
#17
steel | 
Brazil tofblu 
TACO to IGL, EZ MAJOR
2020-05-22 17:28
too long didn't read
2020-05-22 17:35
Vox, your analysis isn't conclusive. There are a lot of variables that you should consider to have some statistical confidence to conclude that Golden or Styko is a better player than TACO based on rating. One of them is the total number of rounds played during the entire career. Taco has more than twice rounds as Golden and 56% more than Styko. If Styko or Golden, when they reach that amount of rounds, have the same rating, your analysis may be right. But the statistical trend is that both ratings should drop over time. They may or may not maintain this consistency. But it is more likely to fall. You can do a stupid analysis just considering this single round variable that I mentioned considering the rating drop over time for Golden and Styko and see what would happen (using the same drop rate). This analysis would be more reliable than the one you did.
2020-05-22 17:39
#50
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
taco can have much more maps played, but it's just considered to all time rating, but and the all other? last 3 months both styko and golden are being better, and in sports we look to present and future, not past. if you want consider maps use gla1ve, 50 maps to match taco, 1.01 all time lan rating while taco 0.91. do you think that gla1ve in 50 maps will drop to 0.91 rating? if mibr and fallen want be a team compared with astralis some day, they need have a gla1ve in team. need kick taco and test other
2020-05-23 19:11
Glaive is not a support tbf
2020-05-24 01:16
#28
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Ireland KarLybop 
TACO is an awful player. He has other business interests with FalleN and other Brazilian players, which is why I think he is forgiven a lot of the time in-game.
2020-05-23 01:56
being a 'good support player' consists of two things: - playing supportive roles - performing relatively well taco fanboys seem to be unable to understand the second part
2020-05-23 01:58
But he is consistent
2020-05-24 01:14
consistent fragging less than 10 kills each map
2020-05-24 07:29
I will only say two words for u: fuck u
2020-05-23 02:02
agree 100%, who doesnt agree dont understand about cs
2020-05-23 02:11
STYKO isn't such a supportive player atm in GODSENT but +1 TACO is shit
2020-05-23 02:14
#121
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United States Festive_ 
+1 was gonna comment these exact words Styko was Godsent's 2nd star but now with Farlig maybe he'll be more supportive
2020-05-26 05:04
kRYSTAL is support
2020-05-26 08:05
#42
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Brazil _Awper 
Worst part is that Taco does lurker most of the time and still got these ratings
2020-05-23 05:34
0/8 This fella never lurk in his life
2020-05-24 01:14
#72
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Brazil _Awper 
He does, he's always on one side of the map, if the team go in the other side, he will be the lurker.
2020-05-24 03:44
LOL Fer/kng are the lurker for the team
2020-05-24 06:12
#74
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Brazil _Awper 
LOL you don't know nothing about mibr
2020-05-24 06:24
Go ask anyone on HLTV, none of them will say Taco is a lurker
2020-05-24 07:01
#81
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Brazil _Awper 
Just download some mibr demo dude.
2020-05-24 07:38
#76
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Brazil ActuallyOcto 
Solo bomb is not lurking.
2020-05-24 06:51
let's put it in this way: TACO at LG = decent TACO at SK = a bit more than decent TACO at Liquid = good TACO back at MIBR = bad
2020-05-23 19:13
taco at liquid good weirdest b8 ever wtf
2020-05-27 04:52
he was performing good at Liquid, much better than steelega at Liquid
2020-05-28 02:19
When it comes to this trash i dont even care about his stats. I see his ingame decisions, he has zero BRAIN for this game, and he misses kills which he SHOULD get. Im not asking this trash to get an ace every round, but there are certain kills which you should get as a player. MSL gets always shit but he is 10x better than this bot, considering his role in the team.
2020-05-24 00:50
+1
2020-05-24 01:13
Ingame decision aren't always because of the player "brain" itself. Many times it's based in team communication and the info they have. Other times it's based in the strat they are running. It's very easy to know what to do when you have x-ray, player weapons and nades info. Very easy. But try doing that without that, guess what, you are a big failure. Otherwise you would be a pro player by now.
2020-05-27 05:41
#66
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United States hoobit 
Stats are not everything
2020-05-24 01:04
#86
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
not, but with team analisys this can tell a lot.
2020-05-25 09:03
Pretty sure STYKO isnt support in GODSENT
2020-05-24 07:06
#87
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
but he was when played in t1 teams
2020-05-25 09:03
but you mentioned stuff like last 3 months stats, when he hasnt been a support player for the last 3 months :D
2020-05-25 13:57
Taco underavrage player /closed
2020-05-25 09:05
KSCERATO is a support player can still frag like a madman
2020-05-25 09:11
#95
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Europe martos99 
Styko is a star player in GODSENT, not a support player
2020-05-25 14:21
I think MIBR should hire Vox, such a raw talent! Imagine never being on the pro scene and doing mind-blown analysis!!!!! I think you have the solution for mibr, how didnt they find you? It is concerning that 2x major winners and #1 of 2017 didnt trust HLTV people to lead them to success. Man if you never played the game at least competitively you should be quiet, you know nothing jon snow. It is like watching sportv hearing commentators that have never played professional football talking about players, what does he really know?
2020-05-25 14:37
#103
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China Mad_bettor 
s1mple is support player So what?
2020-05-25 14:37
#109
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Sweden MaNiHa 
-1 difference between bait and support lolol
2020-05-25 21:31
you said 2 players with rating better than taco...and stiko its not a support player. the mibr problem is not taco...its the stars players cant win cluches and always losing 2 vs 3 4 vs 3 by bad decisions of kngv rushing without flash and losing advantages... if you look taco his ratings its not better or worst in sk/luminosity...but without coldzera and fnx sk/mibr loses all cluches, and thats the important rounds...look the game of liquid how many rounds they lose when they have advantages or 1 vs 1,or 1 vs 2,2 vs 1...when they had coldzera and fnx this didnt happen. To show examples look fnx in the time of sk/luminosity, his k/d was never impressive...normally fer, coldzera and fallen had most the kills...but when left alone in cluches situations his always winning rounds.
2020-05-25 21:34
#111
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Norway GroccZ 
tldr
2020-05-25 21:35
#114
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Brazil _wlk93 
He's a fucking bot.
2020-05-25 21:43
This thread would of been way better if you compared all these players actual support stats instead of overall rating, all you're showing is they are VERY slightly better fraggers than him, doesn't even compare anything about how good they are as support players. Not everything is shown on stats either especially for a support player who's job is to make his team mates shine and feed them info.
2020-05-26 05:09
Ofc. Terms like «support» or «experienced player» is bs.
2020-05-27 04:41
first of all he is entry /close
2020-05-27 04:52
Taco sucks, will Fallen replace him? No, cause they're friends. /Close
2020-05-27 05:26
#138
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United States raymoney 
TACO is still a fucking top 1 player in his role lmao. You try solo holding a bombsite. This guy solo holds B on Mirage and train. PLays entry and is baited constantly. He is one of the only people on the MIBR roster who still does his shit right.
2020-05-27 05:50
ORDER
1.08
Overt
7.30
Triumph
4.44
Cloud9
1.38
Swedish Canadians
1.42
Morning Light
2.78
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