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AWP - FIX
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Sweden Rezeter 
All top 3 players on HLTV 2019 are AWP players. Its obvious the weapon is very powerful and imo OP. When will valve balance the AWP? It should be cheaper but worse. Its fun to see it being used a lot, but at the same time it should not be so easy to get so many kills with. And imo it should take a bit longer to reload the bullet. (time between shots) 1. Price changed from 4750 to 4200 2. Unscoped accuracy - lowered by around 30% 3. Time between shots increased by 20% Everyone crying about my skill lvl or that I should learn to use the AWP can just cry somewhere else. Talking about the pro scene and how the top AWP players have it too easy. What realistic change to the AWP, that would balance the weapon would you like to see?
2020-05-22 18:17
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#1
JW | 
Nepal vsky 
yep awp players are pussies
2020-05-22 18:18
+80282828292 Especially crappy bots like jW He looks like a nova who cant play with real guns therefore opts for awp Have you seen him rifling? Omegalul
2020-05-22 20:03
#32
JW | 
Nepal vsky 
jw isnt sniper, hes riffler and pro player with any guns
2020-05-22 20:11
Lmfao Ok His rifling skills are worse than a nova (no exaggeration) I mean you'd know if youve seen any matches
2020-05-22 20:28
#34
JW | 
Nepal vsky 
hes majors winner, major mvp, top cs:go player since 2k14 stop crying retard
2020-05-22 20:30
Never denied how big a brain he had Get your head out of your deluded trash shithole
2020-05-22 20:35
#54
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Sweden Jetobutter1 
jw is god
2020-05-22 21:53
#37 okay
2020-05-23 06:25
#2
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Make it more expensive like 7k Hitting your teammates gives them health Shooting enemies in the ass does team damage to the opponents. Every ass shot is like -40hp on every opponent
2020-05-22 18:20
#3
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Sweden Rezeter 
name checks out for childish comment :)
2020-05-22 18:22
#10
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Ok. I make it more realistic. Only ass shots on your teammates gives them health back.
2020-05-22 18:25
#11
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Sweden Rezeter 
sounds like you played Ana in overwatch too much :)
2020-05-22 18:26
#14
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Never played overwatch but bring back old scope movement speed to fix awp.
2020-05-22 18:26
#24
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Sweden Rezeter 
yep! would be a good fix imo.
2020-05-22 18:46
#67
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Just one question then. Why isnt everyone in top 5, awpers? Or everyone in top 10 awpers? Yes. There is a lot of awpers on top 20, but its not like the weapon is too op. Obviously you can see alot of people still fails to be better than 20 other people.
2020-05-22 23:30
#69
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Sweden Rezeter 
comments like this make me think you are not even thinking before you talk. there is a lot more riflers than awp players. just around 1/5 is an awp player. why would all these other pro players that are 80% of all players not be able to make it to the top 10?? the three top ranked players are awp players, even when awp players are a minority of players... Its obvious. use your head pls, you are danish. you are not supposed to be dumb.
2020-05-22 23:50
#89
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Denmark WeiZy0 
And your comments make me puke cuz it clearly shows that you’ve No clue about this game. Plz. Get some skill level.
2020-05-23 09:10
#91
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Sweden Rezeter 
your brain pukes because you dont know how to use it :)
2020-05-23 09:16
#97
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Denmark WeiZy0 
I surely do. Go get an education mohammed instead of lacking off on HLTV with ur 0 brain activity.
2020-05-23 11:38
#105
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Sweden Rezeter 
You should learn some insults, calling a smart Swede dumb and Mohammad have no impact kiddo. No argument so you get mad and cry, expected 🤩
2020-05-23 21:13
#106
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Mohammed, go beg to your god. Thats all u can do.
2020-05-23 21:14
#110
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Sweden Rezeter 
Feel sad for you thinking about Muslims all day long. Can’t be easy to have your lvl of hate. Did a Muslim rape you or something? Lol
2020-05-23 21:36
#111
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Denmark WeiZy0 
shhh mohammed.
2020-05-23 21:37
#112
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Sweden Rezeter 
Is that what the Mohammad said to you during? 🤩
2020-05-23 21:40
#113
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Denmark WeiZy0 
shh Mohammed.
2020-05-23 21:41
#114
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Sweden Rezeter 
I get why you are mad
2020-05-23 21:48
#123
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Night night mohammed. Keep feeding from the system.
2020-05-23 23:23
#131
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Sweden Rezeter 
I get that you are mad.
2020-05-24 04:40
#139
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Shh mohammed, nobody wants to listen to you anyways.
2020-05-24 15:15
#140
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Sweden Rezeter 
I get that you are mad and racist but its certainly your opinion no one cares about
2020-05-24 23:09
top 20 2019: zywoo, s1mple, device, woxic, cerq 1/4 of top 20 are awpers assuming every team has one awper 1/5 of all players are awpers 1/4 > 1/5 so awp may be op but if we do the same with 2018 s1mple, device, guardian, oskar makes 1/5 1/5 = 1/5 awp may not be that op this ratio is either 1/5 or 1/4 for every other year but top-top players are usually riflers in those years so why are top3 2019 and top2 2018 are awpers? probably because awp is op xd or maybe s1mple, device and zywoo are too op but the former makes more sense
2020-05-23 11:03
#99
Aleksib | 
Finland MorstB 
And you must remember that s1mple, zywoo and dev1ce are just as good with rifles. Atleast s1mple and zywoo would still be in the top 3 if they were pure riflers and top 5 would be reachable for dev1ce.
2020-05-23 11:47
#109
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Sweden Rezeter 
They would be contenders for the top 10 spots for sure, but I don’t think all of them would be top 3. Other top riflers are insane as well. #108
2020-05-23 21:39
Ye. I think one reason for awp players being so high in the top 20 is the fact that basically the whole team almost always sets up the awp resulting in much easier kills and better stats.
2020-05-24 11:14
#108
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Sweden Rezeter 
You have some logic here. Thanks for a thought out reply with actual arguments :) I think you are not considering one aspect in your reasoning. The top teams are better than other lower ranked teams, their players are better and have better stats because they are winning. There is still only 1 awp player in each top team, the other top players also contribute a lot of course so many of these players in the top 1-7 teams deserve to be in the top 20 as well. If the top 10 list would consist of let’s say 7/10 awp players. That would mean top awp players from 7 different teams are all awp players and only 3 riflers from all top teams would be in the top 10. Considering this I would say your conclusion doesn’t hold up. There will always be riflers on the list, there should be considering how much impact every player in the top teams have. Also I never said I think the awp is op just because all of the top 3 players are awpers. If you watch some pro games you will see how big impact it has. Nothing wrong with balancing the game even if some players like you don’t like the change. Device and zywoo are incredible players but without the awp they are not better than other top riflers. It’s the awp that put them in the top. Niko, hunter, magisk, krimz, ropz and other top players are at least on the same lvl with rifles.
2020-05-23 21:32
#5
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Germany Neckarstadion 
volvo hire this man
2020-05-22 18:22
#4
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Europe AllowItFam 
top 3 players of 2017 were not awpers
2020-05-22 18:22
The new economy made the weapon complete cancer, that's why.
2020-05-22 18:23
#8
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Sweden Rezeter 
it was not as abused back then I guess, it was worse as well?
2020-05-22 18:28
#25
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Europe AllowItFam 
how was the awp worse back in 2017.
2020-05-22 19:16
#46
Snax | 
Poland Thukan 
It was worse beacuse there was something like 1 ROUND RESTART economy. Nobody was able to invest that much
2020-05-22 20:49
I like to play awp. I like to play communitive servers, not tryharding MM or faceit anyting. So no. Close/
2020-05-22 18:23
lmao I also play awp on dm sometimes for fun, never on faceit cause if I play solo every retard wants to play AWP, if I play with friends everyone wants to awp anyway.
2020-05-22 20:49
#101
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France agea 
hahaha i can totally see my games through your comment. I play with friends who are real baddies, guess which weapon they go for every round ?? (: AWP ...
2020-05-23 13:59
I gave up awping with friends cause they really do not give a fuck, you already have 2 awps on your team and they pick it up anyway, no matter how many times you tell them to not do it.
2020-05-23 14:01
#9
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Lithuania UnReportable 
retard alert
2020-05-22 18:24
#23
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Sweden Rezeter 
nt no scene
2020-05-22 18:45
#26
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Lithuania UnReportable 
nt trash lvl 6 player
2020-05-22 19:54
#36
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Sweden Rezeter 
lol silver no scene you should not try your little bad insults
2020-05-22 20:33
#56
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Lithuania UnReportable 
ok trash lvl 6 player lmao
2020-05-22 22:00
#57
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Sweden Rezeter 
ok no scene
2020-05-22 22:02
#58
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Lithuania UnReportable 
atleast im high level not level 6 xaxaxa
2020-05-22 22:03
#59
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Sweden Rezeter 
silver is very low kiddo nt
2020-05-22 22:05
#64
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Lithuania UnReportable 
level 10 but ok xaxaxa
2020-05-22 23:03
#66
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Sweden Rezeter 
nt no scene
2020-05-22 23:28
#90
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Lithuania UnReportable 
What level are you again? O right level 6 xaxaxa
2020-05-23 09:11
#92
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Sweden Rezeter 
I would 16-0 you kiddo :) knife you left and right
2020-05-23 09:17
#94
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Lithuania UnReportable 
ok level 6 xaxaxa
2020-05-23 10:39
#115
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Sweden Rezeter 
Ok no scene
2020-05-23 22:15
#122
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Lithuania UnReportable 
Nt your scene wont save you when you are getting destroyed in level 6
2020-05-23 23:14
#130
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Sweden Rezeter 
nt no scene lying comes natural to you I see.
2020-05-24 04:40
#136
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Lithuania UnReportable 
you think im lying that im level 10? LMAO what level are you then? are you actually level 6? xaxaxa
2020-05-24 06:21
You'll have like 5/20 bullets You'll walk a little slower when scoped
2020-05-22 18:26
#13
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United States RichardSchitt 
Lol I think you just made it more op by lowering the price. I don’t think you know what makes it good. Nerfing the rpm and unscoped accuracy won’t do anything
2020-05-22 18:26
#17
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Sweden Rezeter 
It would be easier for riflers to rush the awp player between the shots and to take advantageous positions while he hides between shots. I think it would make enough difference. If the price is too low, then they could just lower it a bit less... Not tried out numbers.
2020-05-22 18:32
#27
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United States RichardSchitt 
yeah... you dont know what youre talking about
2020-05-22 19:57
#38
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Sweden Rezeter 
no arguments so you start with insults. burger brain.
2020-05-22 20:35
That literally make device a fucking god this will only mess with the flashy awpers for example simple but he could always just play passive so if this were to ever happen it would make passive awpers who fall back every shot literal gods since they can buy it for cheap
2020-05-23 10:46
#104
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Sweden Rezeter 
It would be worse so I don’t think so
2020-05-23 21:10
5/10 shots should be enough.
2020-05-22 18:26
+1 easily, ridiculous that it has even this amount of ammo
2020-05-24 03:00
#16
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Palestine notburnit 
if anyone complains about the current game ur just shit go to Valorant we dont need people in the scene who starts threads like these sorry but not sorry
2020-05-22 18:30
#22
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Sweden Rezeter 
nt no scene
2020-05-22 18:45
#18
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Other khorkalba 
At this point i'm resigned to the fact that Valve aren't going to nerf the AWP any more. Doing so would upset the casuals too much who rely on the weapon. What I want to see though is some more common sense from the HLTV stats guys. 30 kills with the easiest and most powerful weapon in the game should NOT be equal to 30 kills with an AK/M4. There really needs to be some kind of handicap. Astralis is perhaps the best example of how flawed the current ranking system is. As good as dev1ce is, the idea that he's as far ahead of his teammates as the stats and MVP awards suggest is ridiculous. The eye-test makes a compelling argument for both Magisk and Xyp9x being better.
2020-05-22 18:32
#19
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Sweden Rezeter 
I agree that a lot of casual players would be very upset. They love how they can dominate with it. But I think a lot of riflers would be very happy to be able to move around the maps a bit more. I actually think it would be good for the community and most players like the game to be balanced. Device is one of the best players but I also think he got the easiest role in the team and get a lot of easy kills, so his stats are inflated. Same with Zywoo and simple.
2020-05-22 18:43
#55
JW | 
Palestine Entry_ 
listen, i'm a rifler who sometimes likes the awp, but what i hate the most when i'm playing MM or faceit (LEM Level 3) is that lower ranks can't deal with the awp because they don't know how to smoke and flash properly, that drives me insane, sometimes i would be T side the CTs would have 3 or 4 awps and my team just insta peeks them and die 10 seconds into the round, so i would love to see the things you mentioned being applied, apart from the price, that way 3rd round (after you lose 2) you can buy awp armour easily
2020-05-22 22:00
#125
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Lithuania UnReportable 
Pls stfu its so easy to deal with awps in low elo
2020-05-24 02:49
#20
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Europe marQQs 
Just increase the time to scope in. Make the weapon more like what it should be. People can still hold angles with it and get easy kills, but the constant repeeking and quickscope/prefire would stop
2020-05-22 18:39
#21
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Sweden Rezeter 
yes, longer between shots somehow. its too fast in the re-peaks.
2020-05-22 18:44
lol this has to be bait
2020-05-22 20:00
#29
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United States America! 
First of all people who say the awp is "op" cant correctly use utility and dry peek everything so when they play against people who have a fucking brain they claim the weapon is "op" So let's look at the best awpers in the game S1mple best player on navi even when he was using a rifle Device arguably the second best player on the team with the rifle KennyS is the second best player on G2 but is in a bit of a slump rn (more on that later) Zywoo (same thing for simple) Watch any tier 1 team and how they deal with an awper and how little space they give the awper, if he misses once and repeeks against people who are actually good hes fucking dead bro that's why an awper on a bad day (kenny his last 5 games) provide such little impact and at times find way more impact with a rifle than with an awp, Another thing is these idiots act as if the awp is unstoppable, literally every awper in a 1vX picks up a rifle not to mention how much impact an entry fragger or just any rifler in general could bring, arguably more than an awp, (G2's games during RTR) And in terms of the awp is "easy to use" bullshit, why the fuck do teams only have 2 players who are good with an awp? The gun is extremely flawed it's easy to trade, it's almost 5k when you only get 100$ as the kill reward, it's useless in close range scenarios (some exceptions) I'd honestly want to see some of your guys "points" you make about this Vopypasted this to save time
2020-05-22 20:02
#52
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Sweden Rezeter 
0/8 nt
2020-05-22 21:51
So you post this thread to spark a discussion but when someone uses actual arguments "0/8 nt" is the best you can come up with. Delete your HLTV account already you dumb fuck, you're just another salty cunt who gets rekt by AWPs all the time aren't you.
2020-05-23 00:12
#81
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Sweden Rezeter 
hahaha such a mad little kiddo this one :D its hltv users like you that have no life so you come here crying, bringing your hate and sadness. nt kiddo. 0/8 wont work on me sad lifer :D
2020-05-23 00:57
It did work on you since you replied, try again bud :D and hey, I went to three meet-ups with my friends this week alone, don't be mad that my life is way more exciting than yours. It's true that your inferior ability to think and reason is quite insufferable, but you were most likely born this way, so instead I grant you my pity. You had better not reply for your own sake, otherwise you'd be at risk of becoming "spiteful" like me ;D
2020-05-23 01:26
#84
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Sweden Rezeter 
Nt kiddo. lie, cry and rage all you want 🤩
2020-05-23 02:29
Unlike you I have no need for any of the aforementioned, but thanks for your concern anyway, darling 💓
2020-05-23 02:59
#116
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Sweden Rezeter 
Nt kiddo. No one believes you.
2020-05-23 22:17
Oh yes, I do. Don't project your own insecurities on others now ^^
2020-05-23 22:36
#129
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Sweden Rezeter 
0/8 nt kiddo.
2020-05-24 04:38
+1
2020-05-22 23:49
NO need. They nerfed it just about 2 months ago : youtube.com/watch?v=fraJaYhvY_M
2020-05-22 20:02
+1
2020-05-22 20:43
I want SG buff tbh I liked it being viable
2020-05-22 20:30
#42
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Sweden Rezeter 
same here. it was a good counter to the AWP. wasnt as easy for the awp players.
2020-05-22 20:44
if the awp is op and so easy to play with, why not every pro team plays 5 awps? Nice brain.
2020-05-22 20:42
#43
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Sweden Rezeter 
you really cant figure that out by yourself?
2020-05-22 20:45
ahaha silver got rekt
2020-05-22 21:02
IF THE AWP IS SO OP WHY AREN'T THERE TEAMS WITH 5 AWPERS???
2020-05-22 20:43
#44
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Sweden Rezeter 
you really cant figure that out by yourself?
2020-05-22 20:45
I think the awp is balanced, so no I can't debil
2020-05-22 21:47
#50
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Sweden Rezeter 
lol 0 iq? try and do a 5 awp rush or retake. maybe use your head.
2020-05-22 21:52
Sobyou are saying that its not stronger than 5 rifles?
2020-05-22 21:50
#53
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Sweden Rezeter 
are you retarded?
2020-05-22 21:52
#60
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United States America! 
No hes saying the awp isnt good in every situation hence making it a balanced weapon
2020-05-22 22:06
#62
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Sweden Rezeter 
he is not very smart. its like if I said the deagle is op. would that mean 5 deagles would beat 5 rifles? no. something can be op without being almighty. use your head.
2020-05-22 22:08
op=over powered=better than anything else awp: good on long range, 1 on 1 situations, if you make no error rifles: mobile, viable in almost every situation (m4a1-s amazing on long range for example), and have 30 bullets, so you can make an error. riles take less time to pick up, reloads are faster, 30 bullets in one mag, automatic (almost no time between bullets), can prefire think before you call someone "0 iq" dumbass
2020-05-22 22:35
#65
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Sweden Rezeter 
hahaha you are too stupid to talk to. "op= better than anything else" you are braindead kid. stop replying to me.
2020-05-22 23:27
0 arguements. Gets extremely frustrated. This is why people won't discuss anything with you, because you are dumb, stubborn, and with you huge ego you can't take critisism for anything
2020-05-23 07:18
#88
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Sweden Rezeter 
5 awp * 4750 dollar and do retakes. I should not have to explain basic cs for you. The awp is op but that dont make it better than everything else in every situation. No point in discussing with idiots like you.
2020-05-23 08:32
Well 2014 cz/ tec9 15, jumping scout etc etc were op too but they were nowhere near "better than anything else" lmao, what a botargument actually. ofc the awp is op and unbalanced in many situations, even s1mple said it is the easiest gun in the game. it is a part of the game tho and a nerf would fuck up the whole meta probably. yet it could rise the skill ceiling eventually
2020-05-24 03:09
#48
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Germany Enlay 
Make it have 5 bullets and less magazines.
2020-05-22 21:04
this.
2020-05-23 00:24
not maybe less magazine but awp should have 5 bullets instead of 10.
2020-05-23 00:24
seems good but its better the way it is
2020-05-22 22:08
#68
FalleN | 
Brazil dmn1 
valve doesnt need to balance the awp because it is already balanced
2020-05-22 23:44
#71
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
Idiot alert.
2020-05-23 00:00
ok, top 3 are awpers they're very good with the weapon, practice it a lot, and are also good on rifles they are just good at the game cry more /closed
2020-05-23 00:02
It's call variety. Use your flashes and smokes better.
2020-05-23 00:02
cry man))
2020-05-23 00:26
16000$ ez
2020-05-23 00:27
#79
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Canada iNFERNAL_O_o 
what would reduced RPM do? honestly tho
2020-05-23 00:28
#80
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Portugal joaosenra 
Why not ban the awp or get rid of scop, no lets just turn the awp in the second scout no better lets change game and stop playing cs, cuz if u can´t deal with the awp in game this game its not for you awp, sg, auto ... this weapons are part of the game since 8 November of 2000 so or u start to learn how to play this game or change to other game this weapons are here since the realese its parte of game
2020-05-23 00:37
#82
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Germany Boombla4 
only 3 bullets in magazine
2020-05-23 00:59
no, only 1 men
2020-05-23 13:56
#93
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Brazil _Awper 
Look at my name Yes, awp is OP and should stay like this. If you think that a gun that can one shot you from any distance with a scope that can see your beard bacteries is not OP, you're just delusional! But, good rifle players can match good awpers, so stop crying too. Also, an awper couldn't never do this: youtube.com/watch?v=mWYU8eJBibw&feature=.. youtube.com/watch?v=n-oK0I94ROg&feature=.. youtube.com/watch?v=-88r6xuVaNI&feature=.. There's a reason AWP is OP and there's a reason why Valve wouldn't change this, Awp is only OP to hold a angle, which can be countered really easily and do opening kills, but this one is only for good players. Awp also have a lot of bad things that make the gun more difficult, like slow movement, being a one shot gun, if you miss you're fucked, not good for retakes, no jump accuracy, bad noscope accuracy for medium and long range, etc. This is why Aug and SG were so op, they are basically AK + AWP son.
2020-05-23 09:20
#117
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Sweden Rezeter 
Good awp players are not fucked if they miss. You switch weapon to move faster so slower movement speed is not a big deal
2020-05-23 22:23
#118
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Brazil _Awper 
0/8
2020-05-23 22:25
#120
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Sweden Rezeter 
maybe you just need to learn to play with it so you dont die every time you miss a shot :)
2020-05-23 22:27
0/8
2020-05-23 11:41
This doesn't make sense, just makes the less skilled awpers better, s1mple and zywoo are great because of noscopes and multikills. This change makes dev1ce just so op, awp would only be 1k more than rifle so you could probably drop an awp to an angle holder on 2nd round.
2020-05-23 13:59
#107
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Brunei Not_StriK 
It is because teams are mostly based around awpers and they get the positions they can have most kills and have most impact
2020-05-23 21:16
AWP players - insecure bitches
2020-05-23 22:26
Increase in time between shots and a slight price increase to 5000 or a bit more would be really good.
2020-05-23 23:46
-550$ but lower rof would still feel almost like a buff imo. why dont they put its base damage down to 98 or so -> 1 shot belly & head but 2-shot chest, arms and legs. In a skilled hand it could have still big impact
2020-05-24 02:55
what is this thread lmfao If they're gonna do anything to the awp they can remove the stupid ass update they did in like 2015 which lowered the movement speed while scoped in
2020-05-24 04:44
Awps are easy to counter if you aren't braindead, jiggle peak and move unpredictably
2020-05-24 04:54
lol smg is so fucking good for this once the awp is tagged by a stray bullet, he's fucking done for
2020-05-24 05:16
#135
Liazz | 
North America pwooksu 
Just be better
2020-05-24 05:24
sorry me best
2020-05-24 11:15
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