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FALLEN IS THE PROBLEM
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Israel Mizuchi 
FALLEN HAS SHIT STRATS THAT ARENT WORKING IN 2020 HE SHOULD JUST BE MAIN AWPER AND GET STEEL FROM MOVISTAR RIDERS TO IGL
2020-05-23 22:49
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2020-05-23 22:49
#5
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Israel Mizuchi 
dutch scene KEKW
2020-05-23 22:53
Nah , problem is that they still have 2 bots and 2 Awp
2020-05-23 22:50
#6
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Israel Mizuchi 
um no, the problem is a lack of coach and Fallen's dumb strats. Clearly all the new pickups aren't being trained properly. Just look at their matches, not clearing angles, no crossfires. Fallen is recruiting talent and just telling them to play this role or that role. Look at how Furia play, they're so synchronised.
2020-05-23 22:56
+1 mibr lives from their name nowadays, their cs is sloppy.
2020-05-23 22:58
#11
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Israel Mizuchi 
exactly man they are relying too heavily on taking 1v1s which they are also losing. It shouldn't have taken long for them to realise that they need to peak together.
2020-05-23 23:00
Nah m8 fallen and fer are fucking good! Problem is they cant get the furia players ( Kscerato, yuurih) so insteed they just Add shit players! And they keep taco
2020-05-23 23:01
#17
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
fallen "being good" firepower-wise is not the problem as much as his IGLing has been the same for 2 years. Outdated
2020-05-23 23:04
but hes just like niko... he doesnt like to listen to other peoples calls
2020-05-23 23:05
#22
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
+1 it looks exactly the same situation.
2020-05-23 23:06
he litterally said on interview he likes when teammates help him on call, cold called for sk on some rounds too, zqk called instead of fallen back on keyd days too 0/8
2020-05-23 23:49
#78
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Israel Mizuchi 
Fallen should've retired as igl after that
2020-05-23 23:57
#21
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Israel Mizuchi 
+1 -IGL Role +steel from Movistar to IGL ez fix +yeL coach
2020-05-23 23:06
#23
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
fallen is so confident in his calling that he thinks the team DOESN'T NEED A COACH. FALLEN, THINKS. THEY. DON'T. NEED. A. COACH
2020-05-23 23:08
#28
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Israel Mizuchi 
Who's going to tell him KEKW
2020-05-23 23:11
#79
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Brazil Pandapool 
They were not better with zews. Coach is the lesser problem here. They need to disband. Fer just said they are lacking confidence. No player will change that. They need to start over in different places.
2020-05-23 23:57
#107
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Israel Mizuchi 
you are not wrong
2020-05-24 00:15
#122
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
I never said they should keep zews, but kicking him and getting dead as the coach is beyond dumb. You kind of proved my point, which is: fallen has a lot of guilt from being so stubborn and not wanting to be IGLed
2020-05-24 00:35
#115
sLowi | 
Brazil JPClow 
are you stupid ? cold was the IGL for a few weeks in the sk times, he already say that he doesnt like to call alone thats one of the reason they bring KNG bc he talk a lot in game, and is also the reason besides shitty aim that they kick meyern bc he was too quiet during the game, you talking shit out of nowhere like you know the guy
2020-05-24 00:20
#18
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Israel Mizuchi 
0/8 bait
2020-05-23 23:04
#24
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Israel Mizuchi 
you could have the scene's top fragger but without proper strats, executions and synchronisation it will fall apart. Astralis changed the meta with their teamwork, and MIBR need to adjust.
2020-05-23 23:09
FalleN is still a good IGL! I know its the bad players thats making them bad! If Kscerato and yuurih joins Mibr Will be a top 5 team again! Trust me
2020-05-23 23:19
#50
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Israel Mizuchi 
Man I used to think the same, that they need a real replacement Coldzera and generally better players but the issue is deeper than just aim. Furia's players are all producing results because they are co-ordinated. MIBR have little co-ordination. Fallen just tells players to play positions. Look at how Astralis play and NIP.
2020-05-23 23:26
But in the end you just need to shoot harder then the other team! Like you said theY never replaced coldzera!
2020-05-23 23:32
#64
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Israel Mizuchi 
Okay but individual aim can only go so far. They need to work together better.
2020-05-23 23:42
#75
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Israel Mizuchi 
Even then nobody hits 100% headshots 100% of the time
2020-05-23 23:53
#27
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Israel Mizuchi 
Man if you don't believe that Fallen's IGLing is the issue then look at CHAOS. steel took a bunch of t5 players and beat Liquid
2020-05-23 23:11
but lost to mibr.
2020-05-23 23:51
#72
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Israel Mizuchi 
#52
2020-05-23 23:52
so steel outstrated liquid with his 200iq igl skills but couldnt outstrat outdated mibr with trk? your maths dont work.
2020-05-23 23:54
#108
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Israel Mizuchi 
#73 your research is lacking man
2020-05-24 00:16
#73
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Israel Mizuchi 
CHAOS formed a MONTH ago with no name level 10 faceit players and an IGL who was banned for matchfixing. Say no more.
2020-05-23 23:53
#57
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Brazil Snaipa_ 
So Fallen is suposed to train people to check places, clear angles and have good crossfire? damn, fallen is recruiting silver players tf is this
2020-05-23 23:32
#63
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Israel Mizuchi 
Fogo man you are stupid, you don't understand that players have to have chemistry with each other. Fallen is the IGL and acting coach so he should make sure that all these things are practiced. You have to practice these things all the time.
2020-05-23 23:40
#4
gAuLeS | 
Brazil mthatnio 
Can't say you're wrong
2020-05-23 22:51
#7
PAGO | 
Poland Kazk 
Taco is
2020-05-23 22:57
#16
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Israel Mizuchi 
expected
2020-05-23 23:04
#49
PAGO | 
Poland Kazk 
Becuase its the truth
2020-05-23 23:26
#55
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Israel Mizuchi 
0/8 bait
2020-05-23 23:32
#123
PAGO | 
Poland Kazk 
You are baiting
2020-05-24 00:39
#8
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Sweden god_sdy 
shit strats = teammates can't clutch to save their lives. Oooooooooooook
2020-05-23 22:58
#13
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Israel Mizuchi 
There's no doubt that individual aim is lacking but Fallen's goofy ass 2016 strats are making it worse.
2020-05-23 23:03
mibr are a 2016 thing. they failed to see its 2020 and also failed to get key players while they where avaiable 2017 and 2018. thats what happened. but its fair, they probably thought they had more control and power than they actually had
2020-05-23 22:58
Bad strategy and crap execution.
2020-05-23 23:03
#19
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Israel Mizuchi 
amen
2020-05-23 23:05
#25
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
No, he's not the problem /closed
2020-05-23 23:09
#29
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Israel Mizuchi 
Fangay head in the clouds
2020-05-23 23:12
#30
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
Shush you random
2020-05-23 23:12
#33
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Israel Mizuchi 
nt newfag I don't need to comment on threads at every opportunity
2020-05-23 23:14
#37
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
useless thread from a random guy who is such a genius to think that Fallen is the problem of a team with 2 braindead /closed
2020-05-23 23:17
#44
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Israel Mizuchi 
nice 10IQ comments, just going to get ignored from here on
2020-05-23 23:22
#45
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
reported
2020-05-23 23:23
#34
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Israel Mizuchi 
Cuck fans like you are part of the problem
2020-05-23 23:15
#35
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
Steel fan kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-05-23 23:16
#38
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Israel Mizuchi 
Yes, actually this is the steel who took a bunch of "nonamers" and beat Liquid. When did Fallen last beat Liquid? oh wait.. they just lost
2020-05-23 23:18
#47
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
The same Steel who lost to Fallen?
2020-05-23 23:24
#52
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Israel Mizuchi 
Same Fallen who lost to every T1 team? MIBR only win against no namers who formed a month ago. Just stop commenting man you're head is too far up Fallen's ass
2020-05-23 23:31
#56
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
Nice argument
2020-05-23 23:32
#61
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Israel Mizuchi 
You are making petty replies with no logic or even interesting content. Waste of time replying to you
2020-05-23 23:35
#62
FalleN | 
Brazil Morokei 
you have logic? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ad hominem
2020-05-23 23:39
+1 it's very predictable relatively. I'm an idiot and know what is coming a lot of the time- any pro team that doesn't is poorly prepared or too new.
2020-05-24 00:06
#93
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Israel Mizuchi 
BibleThump
2020-05-24 00:09
#26
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Brazil H3xxx 
Fallen is outdated as IGL... so obvious
2020-05-23 23:10
#31
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Israel Mizuchi 
+1 who's gonna tell the org that their issue is Fallen KEKW
2020-05-23 23:13
#32
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Denmark LordHundeN 
Well that obvious lol. His strats are trash. Just look at MIBR, playing good 1 half, then just completely stop playing lol.
2020-05-23 23:14
Dig, Mibr, Faze have common problem. Igls suck and braindead ceos dont do anything.
2020-05-23 23:17
#65
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Israel Mizuchi 
damn must suck to own esports teams in 2020
2020-05-23 23:43
Problem is that all these ceos is just useless. They dont play Cs, they dont know game basics and just blindly believe some idiots. Look at Col owner. Kicked all bots and recruited top talent. He did this to have succes unlike other owners.
2020-05-23 23:47
#69
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Israel Mizuchi 
Ari Segal just throwing away money
2020-05-23 23:50
#40
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Romania samantarul 
They should get someone that can frag instead of taco and trk. How is his fault that the players can't hit shots?
2020-05-23 23:19
#42
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Israel Mizuchi 
#24
2020-05-23 23:20
Ppl still saying something about taco LOL, insane entry frags in Overpass "They just played good one half and stopped" are you sure that they stopped or team liquid that fixed their strats? Recently they always start slow
2020-05-23 23:21
#46
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Israel Mizuchi 
It's just sloppy, Fallen talks pre-game comments about how he's trying to fix his strats but the issue is deeper than that.
2020-05-23 23:23
We all don't know what's happening in mibr because we don't know what what's up on their day. What's here are ignorant deductions
2020-05-23 23:26
#54
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Israel Mizuchi 
Um no, everybody who has played in the Roaster e.g. Stewie2k, tarik etc have stated at one point that there are deeper core issues. Fallen dismissed "psychological problems" when he introduced a team "sports psychiatrist"
2020-05-23 23:30
Idk what you're talking about. Maybe you just confirm my point
2020-05-23 23:59
#89
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Israel Mizuchi 
expected since you are deluded apologist. MIBR loses to Liquid and you remove them from your profile as a fan.
2020-05-24 00:06
#51
Estonia Batu 
ive been telling that since 2017.
2020-05-23 23:28
#60
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Israel Mizuchi 
don't need to be higher than DMG to see it tbh
2020-05-23 23:34
#66
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
FalleN is fine, CSGO is not working as far as i can see. PUGGING CS dominating
2020-05-23 23:43
#71
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Israel Mizuchi 
yes Source 2 is the fix
2020-05-23 23:51
#80
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
they play mixes almost everynight each others, so dont expect better CS or consistency. With other words, CSGO is ghetto.
2020-05-23 23:58
#88
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Israel Mizuchi 
unpopular opinion
2020-05-24 00:05
#91
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Israel Mizuchi 
this whole thread got baited man
2020-05-24 00:09
#74
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Brazil PedroZNL 
Another one who doesn't understand anything about CS saying what he doesn't know, that's HLTV.
2020-05-23 23:53
#81
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Israel Mizuchi 
"Signed up 2019-04-13"
2020-05-23 23:59
#82
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Israel Mizuchi 
Been following the scene long before global offensive. You are just butthurt MIBR apologist.
2020-05-23 23:59
#86
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Brazil PedroZNL 
I don't care if you've been watching CS since you were in your mother's womb, it doesn't change the fact that you don't understand anything about it and you're still talking shit.
2020-05-24 00:05
#94
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
hahahaha +1
2020-05-24 00:10
#97
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Israel Mizuchi 
hahahaha great talk man
2020-05-24 00:12
#95
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Israel Mizuchi 
you aren't even refuting or providing proper rebuttals and you're saying I don't know shit
2020-05-24 00:11
#105
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Brazil PedroZNL 
You're just saying that Fallen is a bad IGL, didn't give an argument or prove anything, just repeated what a lot of people who don't understand anything are saying. Usually the type of person who says this and that "Fallen is in 2016", if you show a 1.6 and a 2050 tactic you would not understand or know the difference, you think Fallen does not study the strategies of the teams that are good? If it were that simple, the problem would have been solved, and if you understood something about CS you wouldn't be talking shit but making money.
2020-05-24 00:15
#111
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Israel Mizuchi 
man I don't give a shit about making money/monetising this washed up game, Fallen can study his every fucking tick of every fucking game but mindsets need to change. #54
2020-05-24 00:18
#112
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Israel Mizuchi 
clearly not reading the thread properly, I'll give you time since you're clearly slow
2020-05-24 00:18
#116
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Brazil PedroZNL 
The people who left didn't say anything specific, much less mention names, are you using information halfway to talk shit and still think you're right? what a joke.
2020-05-24 00:25
#118
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Israel Mizuchi 
STEWIE LITERALLY SAID IN RTR BEFORE HIS GAME THAT MIBR HAS CORE ISSUES AND ZEWS HAD TO GO don't comment if you don't pay attention to anything
2020-05-24 00:27
#119
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Israel Mizuchi 
I don't have time to fucking reference everybody in this thread, if you are even paying attention to the scene you will know but even if you do, you are apologist so I don't waste time arguing with you
2020-05-24 00:28
#121
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Brazil PedroZNL 
CORE ISSUES = Fallen is a bad IGL. Great conclusion, genius.
2020-05-24 00:31
#125
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
Stewie and zews said fallen wanted things his way, and that he should be more open to opinions (= stubborn). Tarik (i guess it was him, might've been stewie again) said something about the same structure being displayed without "atualização" (= he stuck in time). Not saying i agree, but stewie, zews and tarik seemed to think alike regarding fallen's IGLing
2020-05-24 00:41
#127
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Brazil PedroZNL 
When the zews left he said that the problems are more complex and to solve it would need a big change in the squad, that is, more than 1 player, if it were as simple as changing the strategies to "more updated" they would have solved it without having to be changing line-up every 6 months.
2020-05-24 00:46
#85
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Kazakhstan team_k23 
its sad, he doesnt understand but still he got our attention. Its impossible how much HLTV.org admins are powerless. Cant describe you, how much HLTV.org was good untill 2015-16. then smth went to hell
2020-05-24 00:02
#90
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Israel Mizuchi 
was baiting back in 2015 too got banned for it :)
2020-05-24 00:07
#99
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Israel Mizuchi 
Wish I fucking stayed banned so I wouldn't have to argue with 10IQ kotakbas
2020-05-24 00:13
#77
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Brazil IGlor9861 
Problem =TACO
2020-05-23 23:56
#84
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Israel Mizuchi 
Partially agree tbh
2020-05-24 00:00
fallen is going to faze rn
2020-05-24 00:09
#96
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Israel Mizuchi 
Fallen has great potential in FaZe
2020-05-24 00:11
i know an it is a really two-faced move so it fits perfectly edit: two-faZed
2020-05-24 00:13
#101
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Israel Mizuchi 
they should buy him right away with all that money they got from the gambling site
2020-05-24 00:14
they should, they still need IGL plus fallen frags with whatevr
2020-05-24 00:15
#113
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Israel Mizuchi 
#21
2020-05-24 00:19
i disagree, fallen's igling still is really high if you watch how they play. taco and the stand-in are most of the time throwing advantageous 1vs1s and 2vs1s and 2vs2s on a regular basis. fallen fer and kng close lots of those rounds when it is on them and you'd expect taco and the stand-in to do so
2020-05-24 00:25
#120
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Israel Mizuchi 
#77
2020-05-24 00:29
pretty much could be
2020-05-24 00:41
+1 FALLEN IS OUTDATED AF
2020-05-24 00:16
DISAGREE, HE IS PLAYING IN A LEVEL SIMILAR TO 2016, ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE IS THEIR CULTURE AND SYSTEM /CLOSED
2020-05-24 00:17
#114
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Israel Mizuchi 
That's part of the problem, my friend the meta has changed and Fallen needs to too. He said it himself.
2020-05-24 00:20
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