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why s1mple isn't the best player
ZywOo | 
Brazil ZywOo_1_major_p0mple_0_major 
it's either ZywOo or device imo ZywOo is more skilled but device is so complete and such a good teamplayer s1mple isn't the best because : -he baits af -he gets dropped everytime (P250 or CZ at pistol rounds, AK/AWP in forcebuys) while ZywOo takes stuff in GR -toxic af and dumb ppl are going to tell me "but he has so much opening kills" : yes and ? it's easy to have opening kills with the AWP and I gotta admit that yeah he's good with that but he baits after that, opening kills are between 1:52 (mid doors on d2) and maybe 0:40 (if it's a 5v5 and it's rly slow for example) s1mple gets opening kills with the awp at the beginning of the round but then he waits somewhere (for example on Train, electronic, Boombl4, flamie and Perfecto went ivy and killed the guys on sites etc. and p0mple was T main baiting and playing for his KDR) or he's behind his mates, p0mple dickriders gonna say "bUt hE's fLaShInG sO hE's a sUpPoRt pLaYeR" lmao hell nah, he's flashing yeah, but he isnt a teamplayer, otherwise he would also entry, drop his mates, do something for them to perform like they do for him, he'd haveMAC-10s or Galils on 2nd round, or just a glock/usp, or even buy flashes, but no he has EVERYTHING to perform, without that he wouldn't be top 5, electronic is better, NiKo is better, ZywOo is better, device is better even EliGE and Magisk (EliGE kinda baits a bit also tho) thoughts ? device goes first a lot ZywOo goes first a lot
2020-05-28 18:22
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2020-05-28 18:23
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2020-05-28 18:27
That is 5/8
2020-05-28 20:38
#3
Zeus | 
Ukraine Gigska 
toxic af - right, but he still the best.
2020-05-28 18:24
no, that's the point of the thread
2020-05-28 18:26
#10
Zeus | 
Ukraine Gigska 
ok than device not goes first same like zhywhoo
2020-05-28 18:28
in english please ?
2020-05-28 18:28
and they would win against ENCE if he was the best player I could consider him as the best player even tho he has worse stats if he really is, 29-17 on Train on 28 rounds, more than 1KPR and around 0.6DPR, well yeah, he has insane stats, but NaVi lost Train because he is only playing for the kills btw I'm pretty sure that if s1mple wasnt baiting that much, Perfecto, flamie and Boombl4 would perform more and NaVi would be a better team I don't say that the best players should always play for them teams and buy flashes at gun rounds like ZywOo or smth but they shouldn't bait THAT MUCH
2020-05-28 18:26
he won them many rounds what the actual fuck??? how blind you can be if you not see that Flamie is the actual problem?? Jesus
2020-05-28 18:33
i know flamie sucks but he and perfecto wouldnt have negative ratings if p0mple didnt bait that much and he "won" them many rounds because he's baiting but I can assure u that they would have won the map if he didnt bait that much, they want to rely too much on him, actually it's s1mple who wants the team to rely on him
2020-05-28 18:35
Flamie doesn't have good k/d cause he is bot who can't get easiest frags, no one baited him. ''he "won" them many rounds because he's baiting'' no comments, you don't even watch games apparently
2020-05-28 18:38
i do, crouching in T main 1 round out of 3 for easy frags while his mates are dying on the other side of the map nice
2020-05-28 18:50
#31
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
yes but its their gameplan and i can understand it. as soon as s1mple is in a postplant situation which is ok he wins them the round most of the times. but its so painfull to watch when it doesnt work, also their t sides are so shit. he should start entrying more like zywoo when their gameplan doesnt work, he definetly has one of the best reaction time and aim, navi should use it when nothing works "btw I'm pretty sure that if s1mple wasnt baiting that much, Perfecto, flamie and Boombl4 would perform more and NaVi would be a better team" true makes no sense to sacrifice all of your players every round just to get him in a comfortable postion, when it isnt working
2020-05-28 18:36
Agree with that. Skillwise he is on zywoos level, but as a player not
2020-05-28 18:26
maybe even a bit above zywoo, at least as AWP (for the flickshots)
2020-05-28 18:26
s1mple did a lot, Flamie did nothing.. Yet, hltv retards blame s1mple again
2020-05-28 18:34
#55
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Yugoslavia al0)) 
ye flamie fucked up on ct side
2020-05-28 18:42
On which player is team built? S1mple or flamie? You call them retards yet thier whole plan is to setup s1mple and hope boomich and electronic show up enough to win.
2020-05-28 23:24
That is true, but at the same time it doesn't mean that Flamie can be this useless. Like he is mostly the least effective player of them all and they give him awp on ct side along with s1mple pretty often, but his impact with it is very small. Moreso, he sometimes loses whole rounds by being an easy entry frag for enemy.. basically, gets killed without refrag --> lost bombsite --> round basically over and s1mple forced to save.
2020-05-28 23:30
But flamie is not the problem, whole system is, this is TEAM game, and navi look like they have 0 teamplay, do you remember rounds like when guardian planted on ifnerno with 5 seconds left and stuck it because he trusted edward to cover him? They dont have that anymore, navi sucks because they dont have good teamplay today when i watched ence had some lucky moments but navi refraged like shit, how can best cis team play like this? You lose opening duel as T and yea that happens a lot but two guys who were behind you? Normal team would refrag, Navi? They hide and wait, and it seems like s1mple does this the most, thats why people call him trash and baiter, he puts himself into good position (game wise not every round like his dick riders like to point out) and his team 100% sets him up yet he doesnt carry, so who is to blame?
2020-05-29 00:00
The team is to blame, yet everyone hates s1mple for ''not carrying''. Lol, bro it's not a role in cs go, and setting a player up will not work if there is not good teamplay to back it up. And yes, I blame Flamie for being a below average player, it's not exceptable with 2020 level of competition and it wasn't even before, he has occasionally good game and then back to being bad, so maybe it's not s1mple's fault after all, but Flamie being too inconsistent, don't you think so? I can watch their last games and find you at least a couple of braindead moments from him, no joke.
2020-05-29 00:36
You can have worst players and still make it work, look at godsent the guys managed to actually achieve something with legit 1 bot (maikel) 1 igl that lacks lots of firepower and 3 decent players navi have s1mple and electronic who are best players from theyr country, they have boomich who is IGL with lost of firepower and perfecto who is actually promising player and flamie who can show up big, tell me how its not team fault but flamies fault? You laugh at people who say s1mple should carry and act same retarded way by blaming flamie, yes he would be first to replace if i had to replace him, but team isnt working because of the setup not flamie.
2020-05-29 00:54
Yep, setup is not working and Flamie looks like the weakest link indeed. Replacing Flamie won't change too much in the team ofc, but it also doesn't mean he isn't a liability for a team which wants to be on the very top. And you can argue that bringing better player/players won't hurt for sure. For example, Bymas and Broky aka new blood in FaZe already show potential and may be really good in the long run. As for Na'Vi in general, it seems like the same old story, same mistakes and lack of progress. s1mple indeed should try more to entry frag just because he's super skilled, but what his skill worth if the team don't work together as a unit? Probably, not much. I would reconsider their whole approach to the game and probaly kicked Flamie for some young talent. Seems reasonable to me.
2020-05-29 01:17
As far as you acknowledge that whole team system isnt working yes you could try to give team better odds geting better player, and yes flamie seems like worst player but remember that lot of players have shit stats due to roles not skill.
2020-05-29 01:44
I think Flamie's role isn't the worst, but like I've said before he is given the second awp, still he has little impact with it. Also, judging from what I've seen he often misses timings, he's getting caught with utility, back turned, weak positioning and etc. Therefore, I made a conclusion that he's pretty damn bad. Many support this thought, so It has grounds.
2020-05-29 01:53
I am not saying he is good but you deffinetly cannot say they are losing because of him
2020-05-29 01:53
Partially because of him. I mean, he loses them rounds by himself sometimes (more than others), which obviously doesn't help.
2020-05-29 01:56
You could put s1mple 5 times in this roster and they wouldnt do much better against ence today for example.
2020-05-29 01:57
Under good leadership, they would xd 4 s1mple 1 good igl, ez win
2020-05-29 01:58
doubt it, half of the t rounds would look like 4man stack and igl going first and noone would refarg cuz they are too afraid to die, thats how s1mple plays he either waits for what seems like eternity or goes first gets frag and goes back to wait for what looks like eternity
2020-05-29 01:59
it's not as bad as you make it look. I'm pretty sure s1mple can sacrifice himself when needed and with the level of confidence of 4 s1mples they would crack open sites in 90% cases
2020-05-29 02:09
i dont think you have objective look at it, tbh i dont either i avoid to watch navi i cant stand it, sometimes it looks like fucking monkeys.
2020-05-29 02:11
it does look like that pretty often, which is why I'd rather see electronic and s1mple out of this team
2020-05-29 02:13
I dont think s1mple could get to many teams, too many burned bridges, electronic on other hand seems like supper friendly dude
2020-05-29 02:14
not sure what players in teams like FaZe and Mouz could possibly have against s1mple, he would have some options
2020-05-29 02:16
Lets be honest here he is extremly toxic in FPL and many of those players played with him, also, i heard he has tendencies to put his teammates down (i dont know how to explain in english) mentally because it makes him feel better or something like that, would you want to play with him?
2020-05-29 02:18
I wouldn't want to play with people like that, but there is no evidence he does it to Na'Vi guys. FPL is another thing.
2020-05-29 08:18
Trust me if you are toxic in MM (which FPL is basically mm to these people) some of it will come out in your team play, thats personality trait
2020-05-29 14:58
#12
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Zywoo doesnt bait? What are u talking about u frog? Alex strats last year was lets be decoys for zywoo. He is even bigger baiter than s1mple is. In 2020 he isnt baiting so much cuz apex igling, but vitality is shit in 2020.
2020-05-28 18:28
#16
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Denmark tense198_v2 
theres no bigger baiter than NiKo ;)
2020-05-28 18:30
NiKo baits also but not as much as coldzera and p0mple
2020-05-28 18:30
#36
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
14 9 choke, gj zywoo had 6 frags in 7 rounds cuz he stopped baiting.
2020-05-28 18:37
"stopped baiting" ??? it was CT rounds and it's just apEX doing the wrong calls and NaVi being lucky af on a few rounds
2020-05-28 18:46
#82
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Sure, excusses. U cant get luck 7 rounds in a row u idiot. But whatever ur one of those guys who make excusses every time their team loses
2020-05-28 19:11
nah i aint like this just navi being lucky on the 2 last for example vitality choked on the others if they rematch vitality would destroy them
2020-05-28 19:12
#92
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Vitality didnt win anything this year. Their best "achivement" this year is passing group stage on road to rio. Now, hit me with one of ur excusses again.
2020-05-28 19:18
fluke at iem katowice, like every year, navi winning only 1 tournament a year Vitality 4th (on 16 teams) at RtR against top teams NaVi 7-8th (on 12 teams) at RtR against tier 5 teams
2020-05-28 19:20
#103
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Vitality passed group stage, just that. They failed blast, katowice and rtr.
2020-05-28 19:21
NaVi didnt even win against shit teams BLAST was just a bad day for Vitality, got 2-0'd by navi but 2-0'd them right before, just a bad rematch for them at katowice vitality played like shit i agree and RtR they didnt fail they're 4th lmao
2020-05-28 19:23
#44
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Denmark tense198_v2 
i was joking.....
2020-05-28 18:38
ZywOo doesn't bait, he goes first when needed, even with ALEX watch some demos :p s1mple always last alive to "clutch" or save ZywOo goes first with MAC-10 nt
2020-05-28 18:30
#24
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
For u everybody baits but zywoo im done talking with delusional zywoo fan
2020-05-28 18:32
#27
HUNDEN | 
Switzerland Perxyy 
s1mple baits that is a fact zywoo and niko for example are debatable
2020-05-28 18:34
#32
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Zywoo and niko bait also. Zywoo baits more than niko cuz he is playing awp.
2020-05-28 18:35
every awper kinda baits in a way
2020-05-28 18:44
no just watch one highlight vid about 2019 its like 50% entrys multi frags he isnt bating a lot compared to s1mple niko device
2020-05-28 18:36
#42
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
One highlight video? Now ur baiting lol
2020-05-28 18:38
idk what you talking about but zywoo is for sure the player who baits least compared to s1mple and device
2020-05-28 18:42
what ? did u read the whole thread ? i said that p0mple was baiting and zywoo not (or much less) and device doesnt also, like electronic, NiKo (he baits but less), EliGE (also baits but less), Magisk etc. I said that some players bait, but p0mple baits 10x more and in the top 10 much are better than him while baiting less or not at all
2020-05-28 18:37
#49
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Zywoo is the 2nd biggest baiter after s1mple.
2020-05-28 18:40
ROFL NO
2020-05-28 18:45
#85
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Now ur gonna say that device and niko bait more then zywoo lol.
2020-05-28 19:12
device no niko yes
2020-05-28 19:13
#89
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
U see why i called u delusional... In #64 u say that awp players bait more. And know ur calling that niko who is a rifler baits more than awp. Zywoo fanboy with excusses
2020-05-28 19:15
in general awpers bait more but niko baits more than zywoo and device, and niko is main awper on d2 xaxaxaxaxaxa nt
2020-05-28 19:16
#96
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Have fun collecting trash, cuz with that brain u cant do anything else.
2020-05-28 19:20
ty m8
2020-05-28 19:20
If you watch faze matches you can see that niko is entry a lot and most of the times he is 1rd or 2rd guy with most deaths. Deaths per round: niko 0.65, zywoo 0.62 and s1mple 0.58 ;)
2020-05-28 23:10
#45
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Denmark tense198_v2 
+1 hes stupid.
2020-05-28 18:38
#74
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India CometZ 
There is big difference in baiting and teamplay. Every pro player uses bait and switch and its common. It's part of their teamplay. Niko, cold, broky baits, because ynk is their coach and lots of strategies he make are based on baiting. Other team baits and win the round. They keep pressing forward. S1mple, however kill 1 guy by baiting. returns back. Kill 2nd guy by baiting , again return back. 2nd s1mple is eco fragger. I always noticed that, whenever opponent has eco, he goes with electronic and kills them all. Electronic goes to just protect him, if he whiff. Why navi win ? Ans :- If s1mple doesn't bait and electronic play alone in other part of map. Ex :- Last 2 tir 1 event won by navi because of electronic impact. S1mple gets the mvp of course. Why s1mple gets the mvp ? S1mple is shitiest player on oppsited side of map. I mean , if map is ct sided, he suck too hard in t side. If map is t side, he suck too hard in ct side. When he gets to the favorite side, he just hunts frag. If navi have to play unfavour side, then electronic carries navi. Then side switch,He just hunts the frags and come to the top of scoreboard by the end of game. I hate him because he baits electronic. Bait flamie , boombla, perfecto, that's ok , but , why electronic ?
2020-05-28 18:53
TBH it's true that he probably baits more than any other pro cs player.
2020-05-28 18:29
#14
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Denmark tense198_v2 
nt alex.
2020-05-28 18:29
#15
NiKo | 
Asia 12345610 
Should be a popular opinion
2020-05-28 18:29
yep
2020-05-28 18:31
Why are you malding?
2020-05-28 18:30
i aint lmao
2020-05-28 18:31
Simple isnt the best bcz he leaks in titles.Period.Could have saved yourself some time with that
2020-05-28 18:32
wdym "he leaks in titles"
2020-05-28 18:37
Doesnt have enought Championships to be called the best
2020-05-28 18:42
oh yeah, sure
2020-05-28 18:44
#23
device | 
Germany lyannen 
i just watched the last 10 rounds or so of the train game against ENCE. And ive got to admit i didnt think s1imple was baiting that much as he actually does. Everytime flamie perfecto or boombl4 go first so he can get the trade frag and farms his rating. Or he just waits and holds an angle until his team dies gets some exits and saves. This truely made me laugh lmao
2020-05-28 18:32
yeah exactly in a round everyone went ivy and killed 2 or 3 guys and they were already on site planting the bomb while s1mple only came out from T main at that moment
2020-05-28 18:38
man add -s1mple cant carry matches agasint tier 100 cis teams elige zywoo mb even dev1ce would just win that games for they team but s1mple ... frags but no impact
2020-05-28 18:33
Again, s1mple problem, flamie is fine.. nice logic hltv
2020-05-28 18:35
flamie problem s1mple problem Perfecto with other roles would frag more, same for flamie but flamie is bad s1mple makes them lose
2020-05-28 18:39
i never said his team is good but come on zywoo was winning tournaments with nbk apex rpk and alex carrying 30+ every game against low tier teams .. it just was another level compared to s1mple struggles to win against this cis teams
2020-05-28 18:42
CIS teams aren't that bad tho, Spirit destroyed Fnatic and almost FaZe with last minute stand-in
2020-05-28 20:17
#35
World Kobs 
i wonder how it would turn out if the team was playing for electronic and not for simple , imo the problem is that simple needa other team where the team don t rely on him.. navi is too low so they choose to play like that
2020-05-28 18:39
navi have a bad igl so the strats are "lets make s1mple have 40 kills" and it'd be so good if they didnt let electronic die that much
2020-05-28 18:39
elige deserves at least top 3, if not top 1 in 2019 because he’s the only star player that used only rifles. it’s been proven so many times that rifling take more skill than awping, s1mple said it himself elige was the best player of the 2nd best team of that year s1mple was a group stage stat farmer zywoo was the only reason vitality won shit and yes he got set up by everyone else but they had 3 useles washed up bots after they kicked nbk so that’s understandable
2020-05-28 18:37
the problem is that with the awp u can kill someone much easier than with an ak :/ but that's like that ALEX was good, NBK was good, apEX is shit, RpK has the shittiest roles and u must have someone underperforming, imo apEX has always been the problem
2020-05-28 18:41
+1 apex didnt contribute shit, cant entry frag cant lurk doesnt wanna support rpk sometimes can carry the entire game but other times hes bottom frag so :/ and alex was good most of the time so it's usually 3 players underperforming and then zywoo and alex/rpk once nbk got kicked
2020-05-28 19:10
nbk was decent tho
2020-05-28 19:11
hence why i said once nbk got kickied)) b4 vitality looked like a legit team that could make finals after nbk got kicked they made 1 big final and everything else they did that was noteworthy was in events without astralis or liquid
2020-05-28 19:12
#58
World Kobs 
krieg abuser no way .. now krieg is gone let see if elige will be in top 10 but i agree with you with riffle it s harder to get good stats
2020-05-28 18:43
1.20 rating without krieg top 20 since 2017 elige was one of the first to use the krieg yeah but he can play without it easily
2020-05-28 19:09
yes sure he can play, he is very good, but stats might be not as great for rifflers now
2020-05-28 21:04
#39
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Lithuania Tocha 
flair checkouts... every time French people trying to convince the community that Zywoo is better than s1mple, who cares about baiting and shit, if that what the team needs and it works it doesnt matter... hes the best player to ever play csgo BY FAR
2020-05-28 18:37
but it's not what navi needs
2020-05-28 18:41
#62
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Lithuania Tocha 
noone knows what a certain team needs outside of the actual team itself :) if they didnt change their playstyle appearently that works out for them fine. and if they would see a problem they would try to change their approach
2020-05-28 18:44
the problem with navi is that they only win 1 tournament a year (fluke) so they think they can still win another one so they dont change anything Boombl4 is the worst IGL in top 10, B1ad3 is the worst coach, flamie sucks, replace him or give Perfecto flamie's roles
2020-05-28 18:49
but... it doesn't work for navi? They only won 1 tournament in 2019
2020-05-28 18:58
#47
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North America onionmesh 
genuinely i think s0mple is the best player. he carrys so much and so hard and I don't see zywoo literally taking vitality on his back and carrying them to finals. obv vitality is much more well rounded than navi but also when he was a pro fetus, he didn't do much. in simples ascent, he did luck out cuz i think HR played a small lan he was in and he was insane, but as a pro fetus s0mple still played with some of the best at the time and did well at the top level. also, s0mple hunts for his frags more than zywoo or device. watching them they're practically getting fed frags. if p1mple played like them he'd probably have similar stats. skill is based on skill... so i don't value what kind of person they are in terms of being the best because if you're one of the best why the fuck aren't your teammates? why the hell are they having bad games when you go off just about every other game? tl;dr p0mple > zywoo vitality sometimes > navi out of touch in online era
2020-05-28 18:39
zywoo cant carry them to much because he plays a lot more for vitality than he used to do in 2019, s1mple baiting like always
2020-05-28 18:43
You can’t say that Zywoo plays more for vitality now, when his playstyle didn’t change at all. BTW teams play Kinda around their AWPers. But it doesn’t make them baiters. Maybe Zywoo „baits“ less than in 2019 but he was the guy who was holding behind, so I wouldn’t call that baiting although other people do. Zywoo „baits“ a little bit less now, because he started to entry sometimes. But same goes for S1mple.
2020-05-28 19:49
No it's different
2020-05-28 19:51
#136
loli | 
Japan Peine 
did this guy just said "his playstyle didn't change at all" Zywoo barely take the awp on the T side and let it to shox most of the time in ct now So he plays different positions than 2019 and assists his team with flashes way more than s0mple
2020-05-29 00:18
#50
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
+1 this team play to s1mple perform well, it's a big culture problem. probably these players doing bad would do well in another team. probably any player can change nothing cause he would listen, "who are you close s1mple?"
2020-05-28 18:40
based
2020-05-28 18:42
I think ZywOo is more complete than device and probably s1mple is more complete than device too. But still overall ZywOo>device>>>>>>s1mple
2020-05-28 18:43
what ? device is way more complete than s1mple and probably more than ZywOo
2020-05-28 18:43
nope what is definition of complete for you?
2020-05-28 18:45
can do everything device can entry, support, flank, awp, he has so much experience, so good at pistols also ZywOo is more skilled but device has more xp etc. ZywOo can do as much as device and clutches a lot also but device is more of a teamplayer imo
2020-05-28 18:47
So ZywOo doesn't do openings? ZywOo doesn't lurk but he is full capable. Better rifler and AWPer. His pistol work shouldn't be talked in comparison with anyone. His aim style is like NiKo, combination of crosshair placement and quick flicks. ZywOo for me is combination of NiKo,device and flusha.
2020-05-28 18:51
ZywOo does opening kills imo he's more skilled like I said but I think that he does too many dumb mistakes compared to device Astralis dont do mistakes, they when to push and when to not push, sometimes ZywOo greeds etc. device doesnt, it's all about XP and I think that ZywOo will be considered the GOAT when he'll win a major and gain experience
2020-05-28 18:54
Keep in mind that Device and all the other players on Astralis are good BECAUSE they are on Astralis. Due to their teamwork and chemistry, they almost never get into a situation that is uncomfortable or unfavourable. It's definitely the correct way to play CS, but it also inflates how good players are because it hides their weaknesses. Put Device in a team like Na'Vi or Vitality and he probably wouldn't be able to carry as hard as Zywoo or s1mple because he hasn't needed to carry or take risks due to how Astralis works.
2020-05-28 20:10
he was also insane in his previous teams
2020-05-28 20:27
His previous teams had the same core of players, so he's always had the same people around him ever since Copenhagen Wolves in 2013(IIRC). It's always been Device, Dupreeh and Xypn9x, and when you play around people for that long you build a lot of mutual trust and you know what they're capable of, hence why Astralis is so solid when it comes to teamplay. Device is a great player, don't get me wrong, but it's in a different scenario and for different reasons than Zywoo/s1mple.
2020-05-28 20:34
true but he was still dope
2020-05-28 20:51
#130
NiKo | 
Norway bnhyu 
dont get me wrong, ZyWoo is insane but niko's raw aim and crosshair placement are unmatchable
2020-05-28 23:52
Not saying ZywOo is prime NiKo plus prime flusha plus prime device. ZywOo is combo of everyone's abilities. His aim style is pretty similar to NiKo that's what I mean. He is closest to that aim style.
2020-05-29 13:41
#65
World Kobs 
zywoo said device is the best player he faced but between simple zywoo device i guess it s more or less the same.. just depend the day
2020-05-28 18:45
yeah imo device is still a bit better because he has more xp
2020-05-28 18:48
#77
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
zywho fan ahahahha
2020-05-28 19:00
p0mple fan ahahahha
2020-05-28 19:18
#97
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
s1mple>>>>>>>>>zywho
2020-05-28 19:20
at baiting yes
2020-05-28 19:21
no
2020-05-28 19:23
yes
2020-05-28 19:26
when zywho was top1 he was baiting too? your point is that the best player shoudln't be baiting?
2020-05-28 19:10
like i said, good players can bait if they win the rounds, like zywoo, twistzz, elige do, but the problem is that p0mple baits too much to win matches zywoo did bait a bit also yes, but when it's needed he goes first or supports
2020-05-28 19:18
device goes first a lot ZywOo goes first a lot are you stupid kid ? xD so funny read this threads about whois the best or who is baiting olololooloololololololololololololollolololololololo
2020-05-28 19:12
then gtfo i didnt force u to read it dont write anything if it's too make fun of facts
2020-05-28 19:17
#134
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Romania decis1ve 
but device doesnt go first if its not on ct side. His t sides are known for holding angles for his teammates bcs that is what a passive awper is supposed to do, support
2020-05-29 00:06
#95
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Bulgaria cuddleslut 
Zywoo biggest baiter
2020-05-28 19:19
nt zywoo doesnt bait
2020-05-28 19:21
#104
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Bulgaria cuddleslut 
0/8
2020-05-28 19:21
0/8
2020-05-29 01:51
#107
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Brazil eumesmo 
cause cold and niko are better?
2020-05-28 19:25
baiters - zywho ecovice botzera
2020-05-28 19:26
#110
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France FrenchCS 
s1mple is a great player no doubt but device and zywoo are better imo
2020-05-28 19:28
S1mple is a good player but because his toxic attitude he won't achieve that much as other skilled players
2020-05-28 19:29
#112
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Brazil moonski 
ZywOo and devve > s1mple u are right
2020-05-28 19:31
#115
NEO | 
Sweden Katane 
NiKo > both by far
2020-05-28 19:52
#129
NiKo | 
Norway bnhyu 
as a rifler sure, but as snipers s1mple and zywoo are better
2020-05-28 23:46
#124
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Latvia Jancho33 
you are delusional. S1mple has been 1 single player that's the best at everything for years now and his teammates changed and his stats didn't. Devve without Xyp9x will be a zero. Can't say much about Zywoo as don't know his play well as don't watch Vitality at all as their games are boring mostly.
2020-05-28 21:57
#125
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Latvia Jancho33 
you could say that he doesn't help his teammates in game, but he does by killing everyone...
2020-05-28 22:07
0/10 cars
2020-05-29 00:02
#133
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Romania decis1ve 
its not true
2020-05-29 00:03
#135
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
"-he baits af -he gets dropped everytime (P250 or CZ at pistol rounds, AK/AWP in forcebuys) while ZywOo takes stuff in GR -toxic af" I agree to a lot of the post but not this. Again, it's become the norm to simply say "s1mple baits", but it doesn't work like that. We all know the top 3 at the moment are Device, s1mple and ZywOo. It's no contest on that front.
2020-05-29 00:09
hahahaha who says he is "the best player" ?! just some stupid person i guess..!cs is a team game and sh1tnipple is narcissistic bastard ... go play dota u stpd fck!
2020-05-29 00:21
s1mple the best ever in cs:go , zywoo is next maybe ... who knows !
2020-05-29 01:45
S1mple is simpliest the best aimer in the game, very bad team player and will never win a major or achievement top 1 (real top 1) Zywoo is very good, he baits less and actually hold places where he can die but has higher impact
2020-05-29 02:12
thoughts?i think you don't realize that in teams there is something called "roles". and every player has a job to do. he just have to take the oportunities given by his teammates to get kills. that's his job. if you want to call that job "baiting", go for it, but don't blame the guy just because you don't understand how a team works
2020-05-29 02:18
#161
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Brunei cyLoL 
Zeus 1 major s0mple 0 major Zeus > s0mple
2020-05-29 08:29
zywoo like s0mple - both are trash
2020-05-29 09:21
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1.20
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1.84
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1.96
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1.32
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3.28
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