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Why is Jamppi allowed to play?
s1mple | 
Russia s1mple_top1_2018 
Well known and vac banned cheater allowed to play in big online league xaxaxaxaxa this is a joke dreamhack, this cheater should be banned from everywhere! #BanJamppi
2020-05-28 19:50
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#1
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Finland I_never_bait 
banned from valve tournaments only
2020-05-28 19:51
#142
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Finland I_never_bait 
+1 it feels so unfair that jamppi potentially cheated when he was 13. cocky move by valve to basically destroy his career, but it is how it is. hopefully this whole case gets solved soon, so jamppi can get his potential to shine and fulfill his dreams.
2020-05-28 20:57
totally fair, no one force him to cheat.
2020-05-28 21:17
#159
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Russia NorthRussian 
Have you been responsible for your actions at age 13?
2020-05-28 21:44
I started playing cs at 11, and yet, after almost ten years; I never cheated/even thoughtabout cheating.
2020-05-28 21:57
#161
acoR | 
Czech Republic thagog 
missed the point dumbass
2020-05-28 21:58
we are talking about cheating bruh dumbass
2020-05-28 21:59
#163
acoR | 
Czech Republic thagog 
"Have you been responsible for your actions at age 13?" where
2020-05-28 22:03
just check the thread and the comment above it dumbass
2020-05-28 22:08
#168
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Denmark Zaerdna 
You're actually retarded lol
2020-05-28 22:12
if he really cheated by himself... own fault can staay banned from majors cuz its valves tourneys and their rules. (still everything worked out with ence tho at the end..) if his story is true ... get him fucking unbanned asap
2020-05-28 22:48
ofc his bullshit story is not true ....the dog of my cat ate my homework and my mad teacher cheated on my account
2020-05-29 00:12
+1 ffs people are so retarded about jamppi
2020-05-28 22:04
flair checks out shutnik
2020-05-28 19:51
#3
f0rest | 
Sweden Dustyw0w 
S1mple also got a vac ban and he's allowed to play? Quit crying over losing bets kiddo.
2020-05-28 19:51
s1mple never got vac ban idiot
2020-05-28 19:51
#11
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Finland AleksibILoveU 
but once a cheater always a cheater
2020-05-28 19:52
dumb ass yes he did on source
2020-05-28 19:52
wrong
2020-05-28 19:55
he cheated on csgo, not source, it is a myth the reason he can still play is because it was an esl ban, not a vac. valve don't care if you get banned with a third party anti-cheat, only their own
2020-05-28 19:55
#40
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Lithuania arres 
yes, because their is clearly better
2020-05-28 19:59
#78
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Denmark dyinbyran 
Which "CSGO" tournament was s1mple caught hacking ?
2020-05-28 20:13
#134
rain | 
United States TylerLib 
wasn't a tournament was on esea platform which is run by esl.
2020-05-28 20:43
#175
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Denmark dyinbyran 
Please send me the link of your source bro
2020-05-28 23:13
#180
rain | 
United States TylerLib 
I’m just repeating what I heard, not claiming it to be true, and this other person said something similar so I just assumed it was true
2020-05-28 23:43
#183
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Finland HARD4ENCE 
Trust me bro..
2020-05-29 00:25
#185
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Denmark dyinbyran 
😂😂i dont think s1mple was caught hacking in CSGO cause there is no proof of that , its just a rumour i think Again i said "CSGO" not 1.6
2020-05-29 14:41
still not a vac ban noob
2020-05-28 19:54
#55
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Poland Amirek 
still a ban, once a cheater, always a cheater, and ban jamppi from everywhere as well as s1mple
2020-05-28 20:04
Yeah snax should be banned in csgo for his 1.6 ban
2020-05-28 20:34
#120
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Poland Amirek 
As far as I know s1mple wasn't banned in 1.6 but in GO
2020-05-28 20:35
Ok my poor polak
2020-05-28 20:36
#131
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Poland Amirek 
ukrainian calling someone poor hahaha
2020-05-28 20:38
LOL, what does that matter? xD If you cheat, you cheat.. So dumb and biased
2020-05-28 20:15
#114
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United States WelderBurger 
classic gla1ve
2020-05-28 20:32
Juliebabz
2020-05-28 20:34
#18
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Sweden frozze90 
Heres actually proof that he got banned: reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2t..
2020-05-28 19:53
not a vac ban nt
2020-05-28 19:55
so why are you not applying the same standard with s1mple then? why should jamppi not be allowed to play, but s1mple should? technically what s1mple did was infinitely worse.. he had already played in online and lan tournaments and he got banned in the meantime.. but then you have jamppi who cheated for shits & giggles or gave away his account to a friend. s1mple was playing for money & cheated.
2020-05-28 20:02
Because Valve don't know anything about 3rd parties anti-cheat systems and won't ban someone indefinitely for someone breaking a cheat system they didn't make
2020-05-28 20:06
You are basically saying it's right to cheat unless you get caught by VAC.
2020-05-28 20:13
he doesnt think that, valve does. they only care about vac bans and not other anticheat bans
2020-05-28 20:28
which is just a shit show, because valve is demonstrating exactly how much integrity they have as a company. not much. put that with introducing minors to gambling and circumventing every national law ever made to do that. opening boxes is almost the same as playing on a slot machine where you put coins (keys) into the machine (crate) .. even this permaban from valve's events is actually just a company policy intended to keep people from appealing their bans, so valve customer support doesn't get flooded with tickets. and also to keep people re-buying their games.
2020-05-28 20:52
+1 its exactly what #27 is saying.
2020-05-28 20:53
how am i saying that? It would be ridiculous to Valve to ban people from their events based on a 3rd party banning system
2020-05-28 23:01
#13
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Austria SplasJ 
ans s1mple looks way fishier sometimes than jampi. havent seen anything suspicious from him yet
2020-05-28 19:52
#21
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Finland Jermu 
simple was caught cheating not vac banned. there is a difference
2020-05-28 19:54
#BanJamppi
2020-05-28 19:51
#7
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Vietnam anncsgo 
cry free
2020-05-28 19:52
#Cryisfree =D
2020-05-28 19:52
s1mple also cheater xaxaxaxaxxaxa
2020-05-28 19:52
#bans0mple
2020-05-28 19:52
#12
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Poland rude_wredne 
He cant play only in valve events (majors). If u wanna ban him then ban s🖕mple too
2020-05-28 19:52
You are coming up with very creative ways to write s*mple
2020-05-28 19:54
Learn the lesson mens, very useful : hltv.org/forums/threads/2308087/pimp-enc..
2020-05-28 19:59
s☣mple looks very toxic
2020-05-28 20:04
Ahaha this is gold.
2020-05-28 20:17
#132
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Poland rude_wredne 
Im trying mens))) thanks tho 😊👌
2020-05-28 20:40
1.6 ban. If you ban s1mple for a ban in another game ban zywho he has also a vac ban in a random game.
2020-05-28 19:54
You cannnot seriously believe its 1.6 ban right?
2020-05-28 20:03
prove me otherwise. Oh wait you can't bye
2020-05-28 20:03
ESL admins can brainlet, he got his ban extended for ban evasion, ban evaisons dont transfer from game to game hence why Krystal can play even tho he was banned because he cheated in source so again, you cannot seriously believe it was 1.6
2020-05-28 20:04
Opinions are no proving. Prove me otherwise. Oh wait you can't bye
2020-05-28 20:06
S1mple getting ESL ban extension by admin for ban evasion is opinion?
2020-05-28 20:06
ESL bans were always for all games but with a time limit. bye
2020-05-28 20:07
s1mple was banned from ESL for 2 years lol no vac no 1.6
2020-05-28 20:08
He was banned after csgo tournament but its 1.6 cheating sure.
2020-05-28 20:16
ESL still made 1.6 cups at this time. Opinion is no prove. Prove it or shut the fuck up bye
2020-05-28 20:17
He was banned for cheating in 1v1 tournaments
2020-05-28 20:19
Give me the proof that he gets a ban for csgo. or shut the fuck up. All you do is talking. Prove or be silent.
2020-05-28 20:21
Read the reddit thread salty cuck fanboy
2020-05-28 20:22
yeah Reddit. they do the same as you - talking. And in the end no clear evidence- as you.
2020-05-28 20:23
Nice logic there is the banned account on ESL which has only CSGO linked as a game so if that account got banned and only CSGO is linked surely it was 1.6
2020-05-28 20:24
Nice logic?? All I am asking for is proof. So where is it?
2020-05-28 20:26
Get it yourself , or ask s1mple while you are sucking his cock.
2020-05-28 20:27
I see no proof. The only proof is you have gay fantasies.
2020-05-28 20:28
Either you are excelent baiter or your iq is equal to how many times s1mple got banned by ESL
2020-05-28 20:30
*gähn* All I asked for was a proof. All I got is insults from a guy that can't back up the shit he says.
2020-05-28 20:32
There is plenty of proof you are just too lazy and too blind to look for it.
2020-05-28 20:35
there is no proof. All are opinions and signs. But that is no fucking proof. bye
2020-05-28 20:36
For someone who says bye you dont go anywhere, there is legittimate proof that s1mple is lying, he was banned and you choose to give someone who cheated benefit of the doubt.
2020-05-28 20:38
Here is your proof you lazy fuck web.archive.org/web/20150102053406/esl.e.. his elo is red "cheated in game" game CSGO
2020-05-28 20:42
#91 nice you can't even decide what you mean. Also the red thing could happen before the ban was there but banned afterwards for this match as well.
2020-05-28 20:59
Nice strawman #91 mentiones he was baned because the aim tournaments brought suspicion to him and that resulted in reban. Now you got legitimate proof s1mple was banned in CSGO for cheating by ESL any other bullshit excuses retard?
2020-05-28 22:25
There's no 1.6 linked to his account that was banned
2020-05-28 20:18
*boring* Did ESL said it was in csgo? no. So prove it or shut the fuck up bye
2020-05-28 20:20
ESL didn't say it was in 1.6 as well
2020-05-28 20:20
Yes But s1mple says it was 1.6. 1:0 prove for me. bye
2020-05-28 20:22
s1mple might be lying
2020-05-28 20:22
might- it is possible yes. But no prove still 1:0 for me.
2020-05-28 20:23
no proof of s1mple's claim as well
2020-05-28 20:24
But S1mple is a witness and the accused. So he clearly knows more than you in this case.
2020-05-28 20:27
Yes, he himself knows if he actually cheated in CSGO or 1.6. The suspicion is only because he hasn't provided any proof that the ban was in 1.6 and the account that got banned has no 1.6 linked to it
2020-05-28 20:31
He doesn't have to prove it. As long there is nobody that can clearly say S1mple lies. He is the only proof we have right now.
2020-05-28 20:33
#128
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Poland rude_wredne 
reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2t.. Ye i know its leddit but just read it. Yes i also know that even if he cheated he didnt get vac ban but esl wire ban. But cmon we both know how shit vac is..
2020-05-28 20:38
I read it a long time ago. ESL never confirm anything of that. So why ESL doesnt say a word about this topic? S1mple said it when he was banned it was 1.6 in 2013 before he became a real pro player. They didnt say anything then and dont today.
2020-05-28 20:56
#149
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Poland rude_wredne 
Kinda expected. Well its your choice who you support. GL
2020-05-28 21:05
fanboy can't accept that his idol cheated in cs go LMAO
2020-05-28 20:58
I can accept that. But as long ESL dont say it wasnt 1,6 or some evidence from ESL database that confirms it... it stays by the known fact that it was 1.6 You cant even deal with logic...
2020-05-28 21:00
So your logic it's simple said it was in 1.6 so that's the fact. Can't you see how stupid that sounds?
2020-05-28 21:42
Lmaoo it's so funny to read your dumbass replies. :D bye
2020-05-28 21:04
prove it or shut the fuck up. bye
2020-05-28 21:05
#70
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Finland Palomies 
"1.6 ban" why does it matter? it's counter-strike anyway, and once a cheater, always a cheater, right? retard
2020-05-28 20:10
Happy as an example had 1.6 ban before csgo was even out. And it doesn't matter cuz S1mple has no vac ban.
2020-05-28 20:11
#79
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Finland Palomies 
Exactly. So s1mple and Happy were cheaters. Happy should be stripped of his major titles, And s1mple should be banned for life. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Do you see why it's a retarded argument?
2020-05-28 20:16
S1mple has no vac ban and Valve says as long as vac didnt detect sth they are no cheaters. ESL did the ban on their own terms so it doesn't count. Not like zywho with a vac ban in soem random game. He is truly a cheater. That is what I would say if i follow your brain logic...
2020-05-28 20:16
#95
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Finland Palomies 
What you're arguing is that (unprovenly so!) cheating when 13 years old means you are cheating now, now that the video game can actually offer you prize money, and a potential career. You are arguing that no personal develoment can happen in teenage years, which is obviously retarded. It doesn't matter who caught them cheating. They were caught cheating. According to YOUR logic, zywoo, Happy and s1mple should all be banned for cheating. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
2020-05-28 20:21
Valve says it matters who caught them and in which game. And the other stuff about 13 y kid. I give a fuck. Valve does it the right way with lifetime bans for vac bans. I say that also if s1mple had a vac ban in csgo.
2020-05-28 20:26
#127
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Finland Palomies 
But WHY does it matter what iteration of the game it was, or who gave the ban? If there was a new version of cs, would you let forsaken play at the majors? Cheering him on, with no asterisks attached? Seriously? I'm saying it's a different thing cheating at 13 yo, immature and when there's nothing at stake, as opposed to cheating in order to get prize money and gain an advantage over your peers in making the game your career.
2020-05-28 20:37
so the million 12-13y old kids that never cheated and stay for the fair competition are worthless cuz cheating is okay at this age? yeah that is how you raise kids well. Cheating brings you further...
2020-05-28 21:14
#167
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
what kind of stupid analogy is this?
2020-05-28 22:11
Analogy? it is the opposite view. From the cheater as a victim to the good people as victims. If you don't understand that then you have no idea why we have a law system at all.
2020-05-28 22:14
#178
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
and why do u think does the law treat minors differently than adults?
2020-05-28 23:27
That has nothing to do with my comment. Also there are countries that give a fuck about the age. I will not waste my time on that nonsense
2020-05-28 23:36
#184
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
yes it absolutely does...because youre full of hypocrisy. - you want jamppi banned because he has a vac ban that he got when he was 13 yars old...but u dont want s1mple to get banned because he has a 3rd party ban (eventhough he was couple of years older than jamppi) - your post #152 sounds stupid af coming from a s1mple fan, as he admitted to scamming kids for knives and has a cheating ban countries that dont give a fuck about age? yeah they are called 3rd world countries... civilized countries definetly do give a fuck about age...and rightly so.
2020-05-29 13:21
Then ban snax as well pussy boi
2020-05-28 20:34
#124
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Poland rude_wredne 
Im not pussy boi and yea ban snax too i have no cars
2020-05-28 20:36
Ok my poor polak
2020-05-28 20:36
#129
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Poland rude_wredne 
Ok brat
2020-05-28 20:38
#135
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Finland Palomies 
Hey man, I wish everything good to Poland. I hope you never get ravaged by wars again, and get stronger both as a people and economically to really get your own thing going. Sincerely, Finland
2020-05-28 20:43
#136
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Poland rude_wredne 
Mens where is this coming from 🤔
2020-05-28 20:47
#137
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Finland Palomies 
I'm serious. And drunk. But serious. Seriously drunk. Good luck to Poland. You've had some of the best scientists and mathematicians, but they've only gotten the recognition they deserve when they've moved to Germany or USA. At work, I meet alot of Poles who do research, and they are pretty fucking brilliant. Good luck man, and keep on going towards being a better country. You'll make it! You got the wits for sure.
2020-05-28 20:50
#146
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Poland rude_wredne 
Oh, ok mens)) nice to hear something different than toilet cleaner 😊👌. I understand the part with scientist mens. When i was in UK there was a "Marie Curie charity". There is nothing bad about the charity itself its just that these fucking clowns cut Maries polish surname 🙄👌 Marie Skłodowska-Curie. Personally i have never met any Fin so i cant say much but i also never experienced any shit from Finlandia people on HLTV so that's good. Anyway thanks mens)))) Hope everything will turn out good for you too 😊👌
2020-05-28 21:04
s0mple 0 major jamppi 1 major
2020-05-28 19:52
mad p1mple fan go vent ur frustation on something else
2020-05-28 19:53
#19
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Turkmenistan EZ4ENCEDENS 
ez
2020-05-28 19:56
shut up bra71l
2020-05-28 19:55
so ezzzz why zyhwo is allowed?
2020-05-28 19:53
All TOs have their own AC and most of them don't copy the ban that is why
2020-05-28 19:53
nice nick xaxaxa
2020-05-28 21:17
#23
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
He's allowed to play for the same reason s1mple is allowed to play.
2020-05-28 19:54
jamppi allowed in major? xaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-05-28 19:56
#37
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Meaning both were banned and both have their own individual reasons for said ban/ban aptitude. You never mentioned a Major, you simply mentioned Dreamhack. Don't try to pull the wool over anybodies eyes when you don't have a leg to stand on.
2020-05-28 19:57
nope not exactly. Jamppi: ESL dont copy vac bans. And you only get banned in the game you cheated. S1mple ESL ban a player for all games for 2 years no matter in what game you cheated if their AC tool detected a cheater.
2020-05-28 19:57
#39
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Meaning both are allowed to play because both players were banned for their own respective reasons. It's not a competition or a comparison of bans, it's as simple as banned players can still play at big events.
2020-05-28 19:58
S1mple couldn't play DH if hiss ban wouldn't end after 2 years. Jamppi could
2020-05-28 20:00
#45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Of course.
2020-05-28 20:01
DH belongs now to ESL so ESL bans also count for DH
2020-05-28 20:02
#56
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Well Dreamhack is owned by MTG, so unless MTG also own ESL, it could be under the same company.
2020-05-28 20:04
s0mple fan ahaha cry is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2020-05-28 19:55
I dont know about Jamppi but you're allowed to cheat since you dont get caught by anti-cheat and dont go too obvious.
2020-05-28 19:55
flair checks out
2020-05-28 19:56
nice try s1mple
2020-05-28 19:56
s1mple also cheater why he play in team? i heard he also toxic
2020-05-28 19:57
#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
He is toxic but only when he isn't playing in a professional team. Within the team, he isn't toxic at all. He knows when to turn it on and off, otherwise he wouldn't be in Na'Vi.
2020-05-28 20:00
#76
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
s1mple and GuardiaN didn't get on at the best of times anyway... This was definitely during the days he was way too toxic. Saying that, GuardiaN was also toxic... So I suppose they frequently butted heads. Thank you for the link, friend. :) It contributes greatly to the discussion at hand.
2020-05-28 20:12
He is toxic yes. Cuz he shows every player on the planet that they are bad.
2020-05-28 20:01
LUL MAD BECAUSE S1MPLE LOST LUL LUL stupid ruski
2020-05-28 20:01
#47
Nismo | 
Macau Bent0 
Well known and vac banned cheater allowed to play in big online league xaxaxaxaxa this is a joke dreamhack, this cheater should be banned from everywhere! #BanJamppi
2020-05-28 20:01
#49
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Latvia Mikeeeey 
Stop crying s0mple fan xD
2020-05-28 20:02
s1mple esl wire ban csgo
2020-05-28 20:03
Lmao ban s0mple! he cheated too!
2020-05-28 20:03
#60
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Serbia LtN)) 
Look at the moment on d2 when Jamppi killed s1mple with awp from ct hhen s1mple was on box and watching somewhere else
2020-05-28 20:05
same way s0mple is allowed.
2020-05-28 20:07
#68
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Finland iBait 
I guess you also want s1mple to get banned then?
2020-05-28 20:08
mad cuz he rekt s0mple lol, nt kid
2020-05-28 20:09
#71
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Sweden Sweden_on_top 
Everything checks out
2020-05-28 20:10
#72
Tunkkis | 
Finland cppob 
ruski mad cuz navi bad xxaxaaxxaxaxaxa
2020-05-28 20:10
#73
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France Nicolito 
Cry loser. How much?
2020-05-28 20:11
simple well known and caught cheater why is he playing?
2020-05-28 20:12
Black and white morals are for internet kiddies
2020-05-28 20:15
#84
Finland teco 
jamppi better than s1mple ez
2020-05-28 20:16
no valve sponsort event so why not
2020-05-28 20:16
#90
allu | 
Finland Peruspate 
2020 Jamppi > s1mple 2021 Jamppi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>s1mple cry is free
2020-05-28 20:18
source
2020-05-28 21:16
+90 already got baited XD well played
2020-05-28 20:20
Xaxaxaxaxa simple fanboy cry is free. 18 year old multitalent is more skilled than simple lmaoooooooo how mad are you???
2020-05-28 20:22
Jamppi > s0mple
2020-05-28 20:35
#122
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China KoreanFan 
Because flag and flair checks out.
2020-05-28 20:36
#150
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Europe Niko0 
Flag and flair checks out. So you think p1mple should be banned for life too?
2020-05-28 21:06
#153
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Finland KaniKO 
oof delusional s1mple fan
2020-05-28 21:15
#157
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Russia Blyatmen 
#freejamppi
2020-05-28 21:18
#166
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Russia Slavaa 
#freejamppi
2020-05-28 22:10
#174
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France Tytane 
MAD becose ENCE 2 - 0 NaVi LMAOOOOOOO
2020-05-28 23:04
For me the question is why the heck are VAC bans lifetime if no other elite sports are typically longer than 2-4 years for doping, even in cases which it had substantial importance of winning gold medals. 2-3 year ban would be suitable, enough to feel a huge impact on the players so they can learn of it but not enough to totally screw up the career. Compare with outside of e-sports, top elites gets such big coverage outside the sports financially (sponsors, ads, TV shows, featuring at various events etc) compared to an e-sports player that it wouldn't even be odd if the e-sports player ban would be like 1 or so years average shorter than pro athletes or whatever from an economical argument point of view.
2020-05-28 23:22
"fan of s1mple" AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH not like s1mple didnt get banned as well xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-05-28 23:15
#181
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Finland pate1 
Everything checks out
2020-05-29 00:08
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