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MR12 is ass.
United Kingdom p0mpouS 
Never again.
2020-05-29 19:27
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#1
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United States kami917 
Kinda boring
2020-05-29 19:27
It might get better.But definitely not good for G2 fans today,Navi fans tomorrow and Fnatic fans on Sunday.
2020-05-29 19:35
Its literalyl for charity who cares, they just doing new stuff
2020-05-29 19:27
#4
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Europe AllowItFam 
+1
2020-05-29 19:28
yea its for charity but why dont make it entertaining ? it is boring as fuck you have 0 economy and 0 time to adapt
2020-05-29 19:28
#46
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Finland neksu 
that is exactly the reason why they are testing it on a fun tournament
2020-05-29 19:37
idk men i fell like the should've test it in another way . after all , charity or not , its a cs event with top teams dont ruin it
2020-05-29 19:39
top teams makes sure that ppl watch mens. for charity too so its all ok
2020-05-29 19:49
How are they gonna try stuff if the top teams dont try it???
2020-05-30 10:48
#13
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Thailand mongboon 
+1
2020-05-29 19:29
#82
TaZ | 
Finland Miroyev 
Yeah true but it's still dumb to have less than 15 rounds, rather have more
2020-05-29 21:54
+1 worst game i ever watched .
2020-05-29 19:28
partly because G2 was so bad
2020-05-29 19:28
#14
rain | 
Thailand mongboon 
G2 couldnt handle the pressure of being behind
2020-05-29 19:29
not g2's fault this is so shit . they had 0 economy . also how to fuck do you adapt if you have only a few rounds to play . wait for g2 and faze in dreamhack , cannot wait for real cs
2020-05-29 19:30
how much ?
2020-05-29 19:34
mad turk LOL
2020-05-29 19:34
real cs is on lan
2020-05-29 19:47
Its fucking charity event. Why should they give away their strats. Its just FaZe tryharding.
2020-05-29 19:31
#36
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Norway PeteZz 
How much?
2020-05-29 19:33
#52
2020-05-29 19:40
how much ?
2020-05-29 19:34
0$ enough to buy ur mom
2020-05-29 19:39
+1
2020-05-29 19:28
MR15 is way better yes
2020-05-29 19:28
+12
2020-05-29 19:28
#9
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Portugal esperaumbocado 
+1 absolutely trash, dont change the format because valoshit is using it
2020-05-29 19:28
#10
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
+100
2020-05-29 19:28
#12
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Greece Petsos 
dude its for charity chill . If it was a regular tournament it would have been more exciting but still mr12 is trash
2020-05-29 19:28
dont care if its charity or not . just because its charity means you can shit on viewers ? worst game i ever watched
2020-05-29 19:32
#35
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Greece Petsos 
dude the teams arent gonna play like they are at a regular tournament , plus the mr12 is really bad since u have 0 time to adapt to the economy
2020-05-29 19:33
very good so far, just needs more time A match lasting 1 hr 30 is perfect rather than 3 hours+ just change the economy a bit and its perfect!
2020-05-29 19:29
#17
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Thailand mongboon 
OH HELL NAH U NEED SOME MILK
2020-05-29 19:30
HE NEED SOME MILK
2020-05-29 19:42
HE NEED SOME MILK
2020-05-29 23:15
are you drunk bro ? a 3h+ game is the best you can ask for go play valorant if you want a quick 1 hour bo7 final
2020-05-29 19:33
a 3 hour game is why pros are getting burnt out and leaving the game
2020-05-29 19:36
the average work time is 8 hours and you complain about 3 per day ? gtfo cs is not for you go play valorant dude
2020-05-29 19:39
you are obviously baiting so i will stop this conversation here. goodbye
2020-05-29 19:41
Kind of both. I think Pros are quitting because they have enough money to not depend of CS.
2020-05-30 02:25
you're so dumb lmao
2020-05-29 19:41
elaborate
2020-05-29 19:41
for poland 3 hours of work is a lot thats why they are a tier 3 country
2020-05-29 19:42
i dont understand why you brought my nationality in to this conversation about mr12.
2020-05-29 19:46
Dude, sometimes they have to play multiple bo3 on the same day
2020-05-30 10:49
#61
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Denmark Notallama 
Players are getting burned out because they dedicate most of their life to CS as a profession and barely have any free time, neither with themselves or with their families. Not because single matches takes a few hours extra on a given day.
2020-05-29 19:44
im not saying mr15 is the only reason, im saying it certainly is a factor
2020-05-29 19:45
#74
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Denmark Notallama 
I can definitely see why some of the pros would like matches that lasts less time, given the insane amount of game they play, but I see it as a problem with how insane the number of tournaments and travels they have to go through rather than simply the match length. In fact, there's arguably a larger percentage of the community that wants bo5 finals than bo3, because they want to see a game of CS being about who is better in the fullest possible meaning, including all of the buyrounds and economical control. Yeah, as mentioned, I just see it as a problem with the number of officials they have to play regularly than the games themselves. There isn't any other esport that's as insanely intense as the CS:GO professional scene, as far as I'm aware.. and it's all hard work. Especially for the tier2 scene that gets no invites or anything handed to them.
2020-05-29 19:54
the amount of work and tournaments these pro teams play is absurd, the problem is all the TOs want at least one event and that is too much for the pros to handle. Like since we have gone online the schedule has been so packed and busy. twitter.com/ropzicle/status/125006718856..
2020-05-29 20:20
Bro if you don't like CS and want to watch LESS of it instead of more maybe stop watching alltogether and just check results on HLTV:
2020-05-29 19:53
if you were to watch every tier 1 tournament, it would be like a full time job, theres no real time off (nearly every weekend) except for the player breaks.
2020-05-29 20:21
shut the fuck up bro
2020-05-30 09:23
which matches have been mr12? i cant find any
2020-05-29 19:29
#19
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Thailand mongboon 
G2 vs Faze the last one. Its a charity event
2020-05-29 19:30
wtf my eyes hurt, havent seen those scores since 1.5 lmaoo
2020-05-29 19:31
#33
rain | 
Thailand mongboon 
ive never seen them xD
2020-05-29 19:32
thank you
2020-05-29 19:31
Absolute trash
2020-05-29 19:30
+1 why do a csgo charity event with no fun and valorant shit system of rounds?
2020-05-29 19:31
yes,i dont think anyone played seriously Just give the money urself to a charity ffs, why have team play for it
2020-05-29 19:31
Because org will get money for streaming and advertising
2020-05-29 19:35
yup,give money to earn money lol
2020-05-29 19:38
lmao yes but no one cares. If you wanna stream, do mr15 with more ads. We watch it everyday.
2020-05-29 19:50
yessss mr12 is some NA shit (jk)
2020-05-29 20:41
please no. MR12 sucks(((
2020-05-29 19:30
ageed, keep that shit for valorant
2020-05-29 19:31
#67
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
CS was using MR12 long before VALORANT was even announced. Source: hltv.org/forums/threads/2308812/mr12#r43..
2020-05-29 19:48
to me MR12 was always a overtime thing for MR20 or MR25 games if it happens. I've never watched cs 1.3 but I've certainly watched MR10 16k and that was okay compared to this MR12. If we've MR12 16k, I'll be happy.
2020-05-29 19:52
then competetive cs obviously made big improvements long before VALORANT was even announced
2020-05-29 20:32
#80
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
The most recent economy change was recent, and MR12 is now being considered as a format that would better suit the new economy system. Source: blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2019/0..
2020-05-29 21:13
well the new economy system is just as ass as the mr12 format
2020-05-29 23:12
games are over before starting.
2020-05-29 19:31
#28
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Egypt MuXSS 
it's ok for a charity event to not overwhelm the players otherwise, it shouldn't be even in the discussion to replace the MR15 format.
2020-05-29 19:31
Bring back cs_assault into the official mappool.
2020-05-29 19:31
#39
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World mukas17 
pretty dumb idea, entire game has to be reworked to switch to mr12 weapons have to be adjusted, prices changed, economy changed just go to valorant if you want this shit with no economy
2020-05-29 19:34
+1 tired of seeing people and not just random CS losers but casters and pro players and CS talent saying how much better a mr12 would be, and all their bullshit. like they know it all.. Get mr12 out of my face, CS is hardcore, keep it like that.
2020-05-29 19:39
#40
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Europe Didnt_ask 
+1
2020-05-29 19:34
#45
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Japan Inlivino 
they testing stuff for charity sake, let they experiment with the new method.
2020-05-29 19:37
+1 Trash format which will be a disaster if put into a real tournament
2020-05-29 19:37
It's not even a real tournament, please dude.
2020-05-29 19:39
so what, mr12 still sucks
2020-05-29 19:44
+1 my bet get voided and my bookies said "Those bets are voided because the format of the match have changed. It was best of 13 instead of 16 rounds. "
2020-05-29 19:40
+1 never ever
2020-05-29 19:46
mr15 lovers are like bettors. Just one more just one last more, i promise
2020-05-29 19:49
good i love fast wins
2020-05-29 19:53
#75
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Faroe Islands hello_team 
MR12 is good for pugs because it won't take as long and official games should be MR15 so it is more accurate.
2020-05-29 19:55
#81
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Norway PeteZz 
Yeah. Matchmaking should be mr12 imo. Then i can pretend i'm not wasting away as much of my life xD
2020-05-29 21:53
#96
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Faroe Islands hello_team 
xD
2020-05-30 02:22
#83
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Other k23_puetz 
actually is good. it seduces throwing, players will have more serious access to game.
2020-05-29 21:55
#84
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Spain JLenny47 
I like it, but fuck pistols man
2020-05-29 21:56
#85
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United Kingdom rationale 
It could have been a viable format if the loss bonus had been adjusted accordingly. Instead of accumulating for five rounds from 1400 to 3400, it could be something like: first round loss bonus: 2400 all the following rounds: 3400
2020-05-29 21:57
#87
rain | 
Norway sofadage 
if they are gonna do MR12 at least start it off with 16k money
2020-05-29 23:14
#89
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World Notb8ing 
yeah make economy meaningless in game, great idea, why even have money in game if you do something like this? :D
2020-05-29 23:33
#90
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World Notb8ing 
I think its fine but maybe have teams start with full buy and skip pistol rounds, with so few rounds idk if there is room for pistol.
2020-05-29 23:33
#91
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Afghanistan NICE_BAITMAN 
I feel like this charity event is a perfect testing ground for new stuff like this
2020-05-29 23:36
It was cool. Shorter games workes fine when its not a very serious tourny. When its bo3 and maps end up 1-2 with many ot’s can be annoying to watch at times
2020-05-29 23:38
Pistol rounds being this random its not a good idea
2020-05-29 23:38
+9999999999999999999999999999999
2020-05-29 23:54
#95
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Japan kitzune 
mr12 is young. and I like ass. young ass. I like it
2020-05-29 23:56
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