Not really wrong
Cousin buff with hunter cousin as star is easy major
When did he start hating astralis so much wtf
he was always praising them a few years ago
someone got to paid. im for sure.
Noted. Thorin very relevant in 2k20.
He is right. What's wrong in saying the truth. He is a journalist after all. He is being unbiased and did not let his judgement be clouded just because it was his favourite team. Just because you hate him doesn't mean you can complain about every single thing he does, you virgin.
This guy is about as consistent as pigeon shit on Trafalgar Square. I don't even know where to put his information anymore, maybe in some kind of a limbo because he changes opinions as I change underwear.
+ points to anyone who can guess where that first part is from.
Almost like.... CSGO is a team-based game?
This guy became a full retard.
he is right. basically what im saying since ages.
ecovice is a bot individually.
he's baiting for views and fame 100%
what he's saying is always extreme
common sense that other than Magisk they arent very good indiviually
device also wouldn't be a godmode on another team
he is right. device is nothing without gla1ve
wasnt he chokin on danish potato for like a year or two? 🤡🤡
I mean, I don't see anything incorrect here?
The Astralis players were never known for their individual skill.
not surprising he is saying that about astralis after flashpoint.. expect more
Hes correct you people are retarded.
But its not like this wasent already known
hes right though lmao, people can hate on him as much as they want, but he knows what hes talking about
Thorin was the first guy overhyping the likes of Device and Dupreeh back in the day btw
He's not wrong. Astralis with Glaive and Xypnx don't get blown out of the server by Vitality of all teams. Online or not and especially on Nuke.
They are talented players but the strength was the structure. The only thing particularly noteworthy is that it had to be said in the first place.
I'll put it to you this way. Liquid has like three S tier players and let's say two B tier players.
Astralis has one S tier and 4 A tier.
When you put C and worse tier players on the team and you take away the most integral of them all it kind of falls apart.
thery are overrated lmfao. Device was never better than niko. he was just set up by goat IGL and support. With out them what is astralis and what the fuck is device
What is it exactly you're disagreeing with? They have been stomped on by NiP and Vitality, two teams that struggle.
The individual performance isn't there when their system broke down.
It just highlight that even the best players need stability and comfort to perform
It's the "Cristiano Ronaldo phenomenon". Stats, stats, stats, but not even close to being a top5 player in football history. Is also happens to Messi, but at least Messi is a top3-4 player.
I have to agree with the NiKo point
Astralis fanboys overrated Astralis players individual skill and now he rekted them.
Yeah I get what he mean.
But I think all the astralis players are pefect individually for their role and not overrated in that sense.
But two pieces of the puzzle are now missing. The two cerebral pieces
Dupreeh just isnt the smartest player. Magisk is not an IGL
Snappi and Jugi are meh
The team lacks brain atm and the firepower is not that insane
Overrated individually? You dont shit on teams and create an era if you suck individually, point.
Remove IGL and solid support and this is what happens. Its one thing if they replace them with equal players but come on, JUGI and Snappi cant fill their roles lol. Its obvious they just picked two hobos on the street just to fill out spots on the team in order to still keep some of their core fresh.
I'd say its more the individual level of the remaning three that even pushes this team into wins right now because JUGI and Snappi are goddamn awful
People are still falling for Thorin's Twitter baits in 2020?
When it comes to Thorin and Twitter, take it with a grain of salt and pay no heed to it. I like Thorin's analysis and knowledge but I detest his Twitter antics... don't take them seriously.
Have a good day.
he's right tho
very right as a matter of fact
He is right for once you idiots think device is top 3 player just because he is in astralis
U put niko with 4 of other niko still they can't win major. Yes Astralis player r not have insane raw aim but calling thm over rated is bullshit. They excel at team work which is much more harder
he's right, astralis is insane in teamplay, individually not so much.
This guy expects Astralis to play the same with two new players who let's be real, currently are NOT good enough (especially snappi). And i love how the esports "historian" completely ignores the fact that the danish scene has always played structure cs and that is the preferred style of that scene. So it is obvious you will have difficulties adjusting without two of the most important players on the team. He says stop letting numbers over-rule your brain, when that is all this supposed cs go "analyst" does. He is just bitter that Astralis left Flashpoint for ESL, so he will keep a grudge forever and post ridiculous tweets such as these.
men who listens to thorin in 2k20
I mean he's not lying tho, even device is not an ss tier talent like niko, s1mple and zywoo, his numbers are obviously inflated by astralis' setups, crossfires and eco frags. You can actually see that his numbers have not been up to his standards ever since gla1ve and xyp left. Astralis' teamplay, setups, crossfires and utility usage really makes it easy for players to have such outstanding numbers.
But yeah never take thorin's tweets seriously, it's all bait. His quality opinions come from his yt vids
Btw i'm not hating on device, but if he wants to prove himself as an ss tier player it's now or never. I'm really interested if he could be the hyper carry like s1mple and niko(in mouz).
He's right I've said it for ages, astrlias line up paper is not even top 5, what made them the best was their team play and confidence.
Well he is absolutely right? Its not really a secret that Astralis players individual level is not in the top 20. Its just that they are like well oiled machine. Communication works and they are all really calculative players. When playing solo they are not so special.
he is not that wrong tbh, big part of astralis success was because of gla1ves leading, and magisk dupreeh and device all consistently fragging while x9p getting the important clutches, on their own the system could (and is) fall apart
Its just the american way to give time to low IQ people.
Some gets to be president, most talk crazy on twitter.
The commen thing is no one is really saying anything at all. despite not being able to stop talking.
And to speak of the topic.
No one have ever said that all 5 members of Astralis was 5 simples running around.
Not any team is like that. but to claim they over rated is just a "see me give me attention" statement. and im sure he even know and choose it for that reason.
If any other team had to change two players like that, no one would even think the team could compete for the first period.
Yes Astralis was far ahead of all others in talk of teamwork and tactics and understanding, they played 100% as a team. that is how perfect cs is done. but its super hard, also why others havent been able to do it. But that dont mean the players are overrated when taken out of that team of 5.
it just means like every other team going through change that it takes time.
Its normal. but because its astralis people just expect more.
But the truth it a low tier team, that works as a team can beat a pro team that dont work as a team, because the team aspect of cs gives so much. its not just about hitting things that wont win you anything in the long run.
And all teams, and all players would ofc fall down when 2 memembers leave the team. they bassicly have to build things up again.
But they cant really build things up again because they plan to get those to players back. so its wont be the old Astralis but at the same time they cant really build something new with the two new guys because they still plan to get the old ones back.
He has tweeted much worse than that, he seems to be obsessed with Astralis.
He might be bipolar or schizophrenic honestly
I honestly think he's bipolar on some level
Salty english guy with red hair and red beard?
Nothing special, just another day on earth.
2 players were replaced. What the fuck do you expect? perfect syngergy in a couple of weeks? I mean We are talking about Thoorin, I don't expect much from this cuck.
This guy is stupid as shit.... i sometimes like thorin, but really how stupid a comment is that really. U could put NiKo with 4 of his bros and he would still frag out. NOT! He would get destroyed like any one Else, when you all you Got around you is shit.
No the Astralis players are not better then any of the other top 50 players but they are all up there and the rest is just teamwork and hardwork as it should be.
Saying that they are overrated is fucking BS..... yea they won 4 majors SUPER OVER RATED PLAYERS, IDIOT!!!! Thats saying the rest of all players are just a bunch of noobs
Most succesful team in GS:GO history
Of course the players are shit
But actually he is right
Astralis players have no idea how to play w/o their mastermind gla1ve XD
The strength of the Australia system was having players in the optimal positions to make plays. They obviously were great players to be able to convert those plays, but it’s so different from a “Niko go kill” system
But he is right, gla1ve and Xyp leave and Magisk, dupreeh is pure crap, device frag sometimes keep his k/d in +. Astralis was really strong as great 5 team players but not individuals. 2 left team and others fall as card house. They can recover but need time for that, they are not a team where 1 or 2 can frag all the time, its teamplay based strategy team.
device topfragging with great teammates and shit teammates imo best player
hes not wrong astralis are pretty garbo rn
this is really dumb by thorin lmao, ofc when a team like astralis losses its core, they will play worse, their whole idea on how to play the game was completely strategical and teamplay focused, no solo play making unless you are clutching. thats why you only see astralis take risks when their teammates die. they are literally playing by the book, and when some players dont know how to play by the book everything collapses, and on top of that device did frag the fk out?
that;s like an hltv calibre take