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United Kingdom p0mpouS 
This guy is clearly not a real talent, 9 kills in 2 maps vs BIG, hes 0.89 so far in faze and has shown 1 or 2 flashes and thats not good enough, he should go to a tier 3 team and learn. Frozen and Ropz are real talents, ropz at 17 has a 1.10 rating vs top 20 teams, Frozen at 16 was 1.13 vs top 20 teams, these are real talents, Bymas isnt one. -Bymas +Lekr0, Faze has a young player, Faze dont need 2.
2020-06-09 23:24
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WE SMART WE LOYAL WE FRIENDLY WE RESPECTFUL WE ARE BIG FANS #GoBIG
2020-06-09 23:24
Gross
2020-06-10 03:49
stop it
2020-06-14 14:15
cringe
2020-06-14 14:27
#299
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Russia Ilyichee
+1
2020-06-15 11:12
#319
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North America 007DBR9
+1
2020-06-16 22:03
#337
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Russia _VaLT_
WE SMART WE LOYAL WE FRIENDLY WE RESPECTFUL WE ARE SAVE CLAN FANS #FazeUp
2020-06-17 02:28
this is so cringe
2020-06-18 12:23
Y I K E S
2020-06-18 22:35
#3
NiKo | 
United Kingdom p0mpouS
Hes just as bad as Olof, he has one decent map a series and then sucks in the other 2.
2020-06-09 23:24
you thinking lekr0 is upgrade is funniest thing so far in this thread
2020-06-09 23:27
why? he's a good team player, has great pistols, can igl...
2020-06-09 23:29
yes, thats why he hasnt been kicked from every team so far in the last 2 years
2020-06-09 23:30
most insiders say that the kick was a bad move on nip's part
2020-06-09 23:31
#94
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United States notawaffle
most people with common sense say that lol
2020-06-10 00:14
Yes, -bymas +lele
2020-06-15 18:10
0 iq
2020-06-10 14:45
You have no clue about what you're talking
2020-06-13 00:11
You win the moron of the month award
2020-06-14 13:17
lekr0fan giving lekr0 dedicated awards XD
2020-06-14 18:26
#320
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North America 007DBR9
you are braindead
2020-06-16 22:04
#322
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North America 007DBR9
0/8
2020-06-16 22:41
smooooooooooyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2020-06-16 23:31
ok
2020-06-18 12:14
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9261/Lekr.. An upgrade in almost every way and Lekr0 did that while calling.
2020-06-09 23:30
Lekr0 is an insane talent and would give the team both tactics and firepower
2020-06-10 04:14
0/8 olof at least had gamesense and didnt choke on easy kills
2020-06-13 19:51
true and great utility usage!
2020-06-16 23:26
olof is genius
2020-06-14 14:15
obvious bust they could have literally picked any fpl player and they picked a guy who was ilke average
2020-06-09 23:25
but they literally picked any fpl player?
2020-06-09 23:28
Bymas is not good as you see. There were better players. My point was they had any choice and they picked a shit player
2020-06-09 23:29
but looking at stats bymas better than majority of 16 yo fpl players?
2020-06-09 23:30
who cares about the age? its about performing idc if its 5 yo or 50 yo if he can frag than thats good
2020-06-09 23:32
its about potential bro? faze done buying washed up players, now they are developing their own?
2020-06-09 23:33
ok develop someone who has a higher starting level.
2020-06-09 23:34
#122
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Netherlands Titanos
that's not how that goes. You grab a talented younger player so you can develop them. Not grab a 50 year old who can play half a year max.
2020-06-10 00:53
it was an example, but the point was. bring in a guy who is a little more experienced or starting at a higher level than bymas. they can still be 18yo doesnt matter. I mean look at acor age isn't that big of an issue
2020-06-10 00:57
#132
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Netherlands Titanos
I think FaZe are gambling on a bit more long-term than short term. If there were better FPL players, they'd take them. Just remember, Bymas is a stand-in.
2020-06-10 00:59
that kind of person doesn't exist. Mention 1 fpl player right now that is as good as Bymas at that age. FaZe is just simply not using Bymas to his full potential right now. He is always set to play shitty position like holding B ramp on Nuke, B site / apartment on Mirage, pit on Inferno etc. The kid has great aim but is still very little experience and knowledge that's why he looks bad sometimes.
2020-06-18 18:36
how is bymas average? he just won FPL in may so he is not average also niko said he liked bymas game sense and movement on the map and predicted him to be the next big thing he seems nervous and uncomfortable and definetly needs time to improve also i would love to see lekro in faze
2020-06-09 23:36
lekro would have been a far better pickup. Still shows that NiKo is doing a shit job scouting talent I mean he runs this team since ousting karrigan faze continously have been playing worse and getting upset more.
2020-06-09 23:38
hahahahhahah NiKo has got to be one of the best at scouting talents. Broky is already paying off and look what bymas did to Navi. Just because you're biased against the kid doesn't mean that you have to be spreading your bullshit around here.
2020-06-16 21:58
true
2020-06-14 14:15
You say ''vs BIG'' as if they are bad, even though they are clearly a top 10 team rn.
2020-06-09 23:27
big is tier 3
2020-06-09 23:28
#175
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United Kingdom KaffeK
You forget this is online, BIG teir 1 onliners
2020-06-10 14:51
top1 germany hater at it again hahah
2020-06-14 04:02
allahtares top 1 onliner
2020-06-14 14:15
Faze should pick xantares -broky and ez top 1 in 2020
2020-06-14 14:22
#12
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Denmark 4vs0
top 10 rn really isnt saying much given how fragile the scene is rn
2020-06-09 23:28
#18
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United States JoshDAA
They are not a top ten team, the only actual good team they have beaten was Mouzsports and they are on a shitty loss streak rn.( apart from faze)
2020-06-09 23:30
k1to is fucking insane right now, he was destroying in FPL, he had like 30 kills half recently lol
2020-06-09 23:34
fpl are not officials though
2020-06-14 14:16
big not even a top 20 team
2020-06-10 14:34
won vs faze and mouz nt, oh and nice flair xaxaxa hltv.org/matches/2341043/big-vs-complexi..
2020-06-10 14:52
all top 20 teams have beaten top 10/5 teams once or twice, doesnt mean anything. nice name, suits you and your flawed logic. your name, you say xaxaxa, you attack flair. srsly, get a life or jump in the ocean
2020-06-10 14:54
#6
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Norway apx-
ok
2020-06-09 23:27
ok
2020-06-14 14:17
He's a stand in though.
2020-06-09 23:27
Ok then drop him and let YNK play, hes not this shit.
2020-06-09 23:31
What's the point ? Let him play until Olof comes back. He's a stand in & will eventually go. Losing online tournaments like esl rtr , or dreamhack isn't the end of the world . Chill.
2020-06-09 23:35
do you really think olof is going to come back? the way they worded everything is almost certain that olof won't come back
2020-06-09 23:37
I don't know , we'll see.
2020-06-09 23:38
i didn't see the faze players react like this when he took a break in 2018. the way they are reacting to this makes it seem like he's not coming back.
2020-06-09 23:39
He shouldnt be in this team, this shit will destroy young player for a start, you need to mentally tough people who dont give shit, people who will maintain the same level no matter what, 16 year olds dont do that. You bring in young guns with mechanical skill to let them loose, to let them run riot around the server because they are raw, they havent got any baggage yet so they just youthful belief and arrogance and it makes them unstoppable if they are skilled, he doesnt have this. You saw it in a young stewie for instance, his attitude was im coming through this smoke and no matter you do im going to kill you, you see it with Frozen and Ropz, they have the pure belief in themselves and did from day one, you can see it in their play i dont see this is Bymas.
2020-06-09 23:40
You're right , but you can't judge him after one or two bad game. His spray transfer is really good & he did play well in few games , & he's a fpl champion. He got stats to back him up man. Imo , he's still very young , just started his pro career, playing for a org like Faze with many fans & their huge expectations , maybe he's still not settled in fully , maybe he's still getting nervous. My take is , let's wait a lil bit , let him play a few more games ,let's see if his game improves with time or not. It's still too soon to come into a conclusion. Remember Broky also underperformed when he first arrived in faze , I remember a lot of dudes wanted faze to kick Broky but look at him now. Just be patient ,hope for the best & don't take this online tournaments seriously .
2020-06-09 23:49
Its not one or 2 bad games. A spray transfer means nothing, XMS but a an ace with 5 bullets, what has he ever done, nothing, Neo got an ACE clutch vs Dignitas, hes was average in CSGO, one good play means nothing. No, he shouldnt be here, team like Faze should not take on players who cant perform at the top level, these players should play in lower levels until they are good enough. Broky actually didnt, he had a 1.01 rating at this point and he wasnt awping yet he was rifling and playing the bitch roles while Olof awped.
2020-06-09 23:53
Dude that's why he's a stand in . He's gonna go anyway then what's the point in kicking him unless Faze trade in a player permanently. Replacing Bymas by Ynk won't solve anything & that will go nowhere. If Faze still thinks they're going to go with Olof then there's no point in kicking Bymas. I remember once Ynk played for faze bc GuardiaN didn't got his visa or something , but he didn't played very good. He's no better than Bymas.
2020-06-09 23:59
Ok when Faze got standins in 2018 they got Cromen whos atleast competent and Xizt whos very experienced. YNK knows fazes system better than anyone, he can slot right in, or get a real replacement, its the fucking shit with Adren and Neo again but instead of washed up player we have FPL teens who dont have required knowledge or experience to play at tier 1.
2020-06-10 00:01
Yes , I agree with that . You can say Bymas wasn't the right choice but you just can't do anything about it. It's unfortunate but I don't see any point of replacing a stand in with another stand in (assuming Olof will come back), because if the later somehow clicks with the team's system he would have to leave at some point of time which will bring everything back to square one.
2020-06-10 00:09
Its simple, if the other player clicks, bye bye Olof.
2020-06-10 00:09
That's the tricky part. I don't know if Faze still wants to continue with Olof , which I don't want to happen ( it hurts me to say ,he's still my 4th all time favourite player, but it's true) . If I'm faze I would kick both Olof & rain & bring Ropz & krystal/lekr0
2020-06-10 00:21
Best move was -Olof in mid 2018 and +Krimz when Fnatic fell apart.
2020-06-10 00:23
The best move is +Fallen -Bymas/Rain
2020-06-13 00:18
#287
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Denmark Muamelele
imagine callin neo average in csgo, this just shows how irrelevant ur opinion is on this lmao
2020-06-14 19:32
In 2014 he was 1.02, his best was 1.12 in 2012.
2020-06-14 19:33
#289
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Denmark Muamelele
all u see is stats lol, neo was incredibly vital to vp's success and if u believe otherwise u r simply delusional
2020-06-14 19:34
-Bymas +decent igl It's the only thing that makes sense. Niko is not a competent igl and never will be.
2020-06-09 23:27
#54
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Serbia DjapeZ
+1111111111111111111111
2020-06-09 23:39
+1
2020-06-10 14:28
+1
2020-06-14 14:17
do you realy flame a 16y whos just entered the bigger stages of CS ?
2020-06-09 23:28
He’s not blaming anyone. He just stating that Bymas just isn’t ready for this kind of competition yet
2020-06-09 23:30
man atleast give him some time like cmon, wich player instantly started carrying the team he just switched to😅
2020-06-14 04:04
ropz did but he was older
2020-06-14 13:16
#22
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United States JoshDAA
Obo can hold his own, frozen and ropz did well when they joined
2020-06-09 23:30
i think he should've said that they shouldn't have picked up a youngster who wasn't that good.
2020-06-09 23:37
Lol they had experience in tier3 etc.
2020-06-09 23:38
But thats fazes fault they went for someone with no experience in T3, also frozen had atleast some t2 experience, also ropz played like 5 matches before joining mouz and he plays better than bymas, i think faze are trying to replicate mouz signing ropz move but not every young FPL talent is future star.
2020-06-14 13:22
yeah right YEKINDAR would be good shot tho he is 20 same nation with broky and can outplay and outaim most of the overrated bots like rofltares etc.
2020-06-14 14:06
Are you being sarcastic or what? because i really cant tell
2020-06-14 14:07
No im not sarcastic at all Without pug style YEKINDAR can be so useful for high tier teams Mir needs a shot aswell but he is 24 and he is pugger and doing unexpected things all the time
2020-06-14 14:09
Nah man mir is probably cheating, it would explain why he was never picked up by good cis teams when he was playing like god.
2020-06-14 14:10
Yeah can be true i wonder what mir and idisbalance can do on lan
2020-06-14 14:12
Mir is so annoying to play against pushing everywhere with perfect timings
2020-06-14 14:13
Yes both him and IDB have fishy plays and considering that there were better teams in cis than spirit until online it raises a lot of questions why they never joined better teams, kind of like joelz of CIS
2020-06-14 14:14
2020-06-14 14:19
Let them have fun till online thing stops xd
2020-06-14 14:20
You can expect YEKINDAR to be new ropz but u cant wait bymas to be like that he needs 1 year experience in lower tiers without a doubt
2020-06-14 14:07
Ropz had 0 experience before joining mouz and was instantly good, OP is right bymas is not ready
2020-06-14 14:08
Well ropz didnt just come and bang heads tho he had to wait for his time to come After sunny he got what he deserved
2020-06-14 14:11
Check ropz 2017 stats first 3 matches he was really really good, than he was above average almost always, the guy was ready to go since pickup with like 5 official matches before joining.
2020-06-14 14:12
i mean he was second star in the team in FaZe rain or bymas guaranteed to be bottomfragger because there are niko coldzera broky
2020-06-14 14:15
you had chris when he was actually good, you also had oskar, he was 3rd star at best, with almost no experience, i didnt expect bymas to do good, but with same rating as olof i would rather play with someone with more experience than with some young guy who isnt ready, if you get the same results out of hte player in the server he might atleast help out in comms and other things...
2020-06-14 14:19
No, but he isn't the right for faze. too big of a task
2020-06-09 23:32
Obo, young s1mple, Zywoo, Frozen, Ropz, Niko, Cold, Elige, these guys were all very young and they were elite from the start, you could see the skill oozing from them with every moment, i dont see this in Bymas. Its not his fault, i dont blame him, but he shouldnt be in this team.
2020-06-09 23:37
All of them played in a structure team under a dedicated IGL. And the team gives them freedom to do all the shit that they want
2020-06-09 23:45
So why is he here then, it loops back to what i said, hes not good enough to be a star player and hes not got anything else to offer the team, why is he there?
2020-06-09 23:47
wdym It is not his problem if he is the one who plays the bad role in the team. Broky played there = looks like a bot Olof played there = looks like a bot It is the same with bymas
2020-06-09 23:53
Broky played there and pulled a 1.01 rating in his first 10 maps not 0.89.
2020-06-09 23:55
I am not sure about Broky stats when he is lurking but he definitely looks like a bot when he is playing the same position
2020-06-10 00:04
No he didnt, he looked like what he is, a young talented player.
2020-06-10 00:04
He said it wasnt the role for him but he still did a decent job so that means nothing, he still pulled over a 1.0 rating.
2020-06-10 00:08
Ok. before this -Olof Now -Bymas Faze will be the next MIBR
2020-06-10 00:12
Well yeah -Olof was obvious, no one said +Bymas, +Lekr0 was the obvious choice, maybe even Smooya ffs, hes a free agent, he can go onto the AWP or him and Broky can share it or he can just rifle i dont care.
2020-06-10 00:13
Nice. I wasted so much time talking to people who dont know how the game works
2020-06-10 00:14
no they were not. hes lacking XP in real 5v5 just like ANYBODY did
2020-06-10 02:55
kekw
2020-06-10 10:50
+1
2020-06-14 14:17
#14
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France Neitsa
Agreed but i think someone else, not Lekro
2020-06-09 23:28
fallen?
2020-06-10 14:43
#170
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France Neitsa
As igl of course, but Fallen will never join Faze
2020-06-10 14:44
fallen will never join non-bra71l team
2020-06-14 14:17
anyone could have a bad day
2020-06-09 23:29
but not everyday
2020-06-14 14:18
They had no real practice he came in and played a tournament right away it’s crazy how fast people give up on players give him 2 months and if he still is this bad then you can talk but 1 event? That’s ridiculous
2020-06-18 12:22
LOL it is not that Ropz and Frozen are better than Bymas. They are equally talented but it is the IGL and coach that matters at this point. Ropz becoming better after karrigan joins. Niko is a great player but definitely not a great leader, everyone in faze only care about their own and no people will tell younger player what to do. Broky and Olof played in the same position before this, and both of them looked like bot. I am not surprised that Bymas does not feel comfortable playing the same position
2020-06-09 23:31
#56
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Serbia DjapeZ
hahahah nonsense
2020-06-09 23:39
ropz is defenitly better then bymas
2020-06-09 23:50
Bymas is still young and Ropz is a better player atm. I was trying to say that it is important to have a dedicated igl to lead this young players. Frozen looks like a solid top 20 player after playing tier 1 cs for a short period of time while it took longer for Broky to look good.
2020-06-09 23:56
Ropz had almost no experience in official matches and when he joined mouz he was instantly good with them and this is when mouz was pretty shit.
2020-06-14 13:26
He is not instantly good but he looked better than any other young player. This is because there are always a player in the team who can play shit role, giving ropz the freedom to do anything that he wants.
2020-06-14 20:02
He was instantly better than half of the team, when he wasnt even in star position, granted he wasnt in shit position like bymas but you are really underselling ropz here.
2020-06-14 20:03
I am not underselling Ropz and I am a huge fan of Ropz. I personally think that he is the best young talent at the moment, and he is definitely a future top 1 player. But I don't like people undersell Bymas and other young talents because they are not given any chance to choose what they want to do in-game and prove themselves.
2020-06-15 10:51
I siad Bymas was put in shit position but the two are most comparable in terms of not being in team before and agae and so on and Bymas is nowehere near ropz when he was 17 either in skill or impact
2020-06-15 10:53
We will never know how Bymas will do if the team put him in a position that he wanted to be because he is playing at Faze where everyone in the team plays for themselves.
2020-06-15 10:54
Well faze is a shitshow because your IGL looks like he cares more about his image than team succes but whatever, bymas is not as good as ropz and this stunt by faze will probably slow down his career if they dont sign him, he will legit be styko 2
2020-06-15 10:56
ropz always was better than bymas
2020-06-14 14:19
ropz is better after karrigan joins? dont think so, he was solid since 2017
2020-06-16 23:04
Go compare his gameplay before and after. He himself also said it on Instagram
2020-06-17 02:27
he is easily a talent, imagine being 16 and thrown into this position. if u play cs yourself you will know how big of a factor confidence is. probably it takes longer for him than for frozen or ropz to build up this experience but eventually he could end up just as strong as those
2020-06-09 23:31
If you dont have the mental toughness to hit the ground running you arent a real talent, Frozen at this point had a 1.24 rating in Mouz, thats a talent, he ripped Fnatic apart, he posted a 1.76 rating on a map vs vitality, the good vitality. This guy can barely go positive once in a Bo3, thats not a talents, talents come in with their mechanical skill and run riot, weve seen it time and again.
2020-06-09 23:34
i just could repeat myself. he has probably 15 years to find this confidence since the mechanical skill is definitely there already. i dont know how old u are, but 16 is very young and only exceptions were able to compete on this level at this age already
2020-06-09 23:37
Well why would faze and team that wants to be number one take a 16 year who is exceptional? If a 16 year old isnt there to be fresh and tear people apart with their aim what are they their for?
2020-06-09 23:42
well ropz and niko both were an incredible good deal for mouz, making tons of profit in terms of their value as players alone. faze is a profit-oriented company at the end, picking up young talents for free often were smart moves. as a fan all of this bashing of a kid is probably the worst u can do tho, give him the time he needs ffs
2020-06-09 23:49
Ill give him the time he needs, in a tier 2-3 team where he should be, you need to earn a spot in a top team. He hasnt, this isnt like Ropz or frozen, or GTR back in 1.6, where everyone knew about them and could see how insane they were, this is guy no one knew about and clearly isnt good enough yet. Look at Zywoo, look at the team he played in before Vitality, he atleast proved himself a little. Age is a bs excuse anyway, if you are good enough your old enough, many 16-18 year olds have come in a just started ripping t1 teams apart.
2020-06-10 00:05
age is undoubtedly a huge factor when it comes to mental strength, which is as i said a main factor in cs especially at such a high level. this is the 16th day he is in faze and already receiving tons of hate which wont make it easier for him. he isnt the problem, but guys like u are
2020-06-10 00:34
His isnt the problem alone no, but hes certainly not the solution.
2020-06-10 00:34
no individual would be a solution if you actually unterstood what went wrong for them today
2020-06-10 00:35
this aged very well btw lul
2020-06-12 18:31
Sure did he was the worst player again.
2020-06-13 19:23
Hes also 0.93 at this event.
2020-06-13 19:37
u should reconsider playing csgo, probably most incompetent person ive met for a while
2020-06-13 19:44
I mean I have only around 200h in CS and I feel like even I could have had more frags in a map than 3. And 2 of them were on fully blind opponents. The problem with Bymas is that there are 0 flashes of any kind of talent. Theres just absolutely nothing so far that would make you believe in him.
2020-06-10 00:48
lmao the first sentence is the most ridiculous thing ive read today.. u most likely wouldnt even get an assist mate.. in the end hes just a stand in for now and there is no better phase to try out new talents than now where everything is online without the orgs giving that big of a shit. and yes, he has shown huge "flashes" of talent in fpl already, nothing else like ropz back then and look where hes now.
2020-06-10 00:55
What flashes? And I don't really care what you think about me fragging. Just realize that you dont need to be pro to get more than 3 kills in a map.
2020-06-10 00:57
lmaoo the opposing team would profit more of you than your mates, feeding them with guns&kill rewards
2020-06-10 00:59
what are you talking about
2020-06-10 00:59
i should ask this tbh
2020-06-10 01:00
Did you mean to reply to someone else?
2020-06-10 01:01
no
2020-06-10 01:01
Then what are you talking about?
2020-06-10 01:02
Did you mean to reply to someone else?
2020-06-10 01:03
lol
2020-06-10 01:04
if you think you would have a single frag against a pro team w 200 hours in cs then you're delusional. It would literally be more beneficial for them to play a 4v5 than to play a 5v5 with you. You'd be negative impact.
2020-06-13 00:23
I can kill 2 people who are fully blinded just like Bymas can, it doesn't take a pro player to shoot people in the back or who cant see...
2020-06-13 15:08
it takes a pro player to get to his level, it takes a pro player to be in his position. end.
2020-06-14 03:58
Even gold novas can get frags in these games, if you dont think so you're just stupid. Whether or not he would hurt more than help is a different argument, although even that doesn't really make sense.
2020-06-14 13:08
We're not arguing about Bymas here. We're arguing about your efficacy in his position. You would get absolutely brutalized by BIG. I can guarantee you wouldn't get a single frag. You would LITERALLY have a negative impact rating because you would be worth more to BIG than to Faze. I have 4k hours and have played LANs before. I would probably be able to mount a few frags. You? No. Fucking. Way.
2020-06-15 18:08
Thats ridiculous. Go and watch the replay and see the 3 frags Bymas got on inferno. Even silver gets those.
2020-06-15 22:14
Play in league, play a tourney, plan a LAN. do those and maybe I'll take you seriously.
2020-06-16 03:41
I literally could not care less about how seriously you take me, what you're saying is nonsense if you stop and think about it for more than a few seconds.
2020-06-16 13:32
get good nerd
2020-06-16 20:01
Youre the one saying you wouldnt be able to get even 1 kill in a bo3 even when shooting fully blind people or shooting people in the back..
2020-06-16 21:41
You know how to read? Re-read 301 then try again.
2020-06-16 21:46
I read it, nothing changes.
2020-06-16 22:52
Then you, my friend, need to work on your english, your reading comprehension, or just your brainpower.
2020-06-16 23:21
You're saying it's impossible for a person with 200 hours to kill more than 3 people in a map, 2 of which are fully blind and I'm saying that's nonsense. Nothing special going on here. You simply have no arguments besides "I can guarantee", which makes this whole conversation boring.
2020-06-17 13:33
You argument is that you can, mine is that you cannot. There is no evidence on either side. If we're going to be pedantic assholes, then you, someone who made the positive claim (that you could) need to provide empirical evidence. Since you're too dogshit and stupid to do that, get the fuck out of my feed. Thank you.
2020-06-17 22:41
lol, if all you're able to bring to the conversation is "trust me bro" then maybe next time just pass. you have been a complete waste of time.
2020-06-18 12:05
You just disregarded my last message because you couldn't refute it. I put into very simple words for you that you needed to provide evidence, being you made the positive claim. If you're too dull to understand that, that's not my fault kiddo.
2020-06-18 17:04
lol. look, you're the one who took the time to respond to me. if all you're doing is asking for "empirical evidence" go do something else. you are bringing nothing to the conversation.
2020-06-18 18:08
Everything you have just said applies to you as well lmao
2020-06-18 19:37
So, now you're just saying "no you". Just what exactly was your objective in replying to me?
2020-06-18 22:22
Ropz to Faze maybe
2020-06-09 23:31
#30
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Brazil wololo10
I don't now man, a mouz fix is a better solution for him
2020-06-09 23:32
too expensive
2020-06-14 14:19
It is just what I was saying when I enter bymas Olof's position is very sacrificial and it was not a good idea to give that position to a boy ... You have to have a lot of experience in this game so that you are not affected by having such a negative score ... That would not affect lekr0 because he is used to igl scores ... But hey, niko bet on another broky but did not have the same results ...
2020-06-09 23:32
+1 Thanx for lecture
2020-06-10 04:08
Talking about results 1-2 weeks into the players tenure is pretty idiotic
2020-06-16 23:23
#33
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Lebanon Dogman69
he needs to grind t2-3 lootbet cups first, even broky was doing that with Epsilon
2020-06-09 23:32
Ropz and zywoo did not grind at lootbet cups
2020-06-09 23:38
#58
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Lebanon Dogman69
zywoo did
2020-06-09 23:39
yeah he dont have enough experience
2020-06-14 14:20
#34
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Venezuela Jorge_
name checks out of a braindead "-player +player" thread poster
2020-06-09 23:33
no reason to be toxic
2020-06-14 14:20
#309
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Venezuela Jorge_
are you his alt or his boyfriend?
2020-06-16 08:15
#35
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Lebanon Dogman69
also the whole team played like shit, absolutely dumpstered even when win pistols on nuke
2020-06-09 23:33
yes please ASAFP, thought since the very beginning that it was a weird choice going for him and from what I've seen from him he's nowhere near ready for the big leagues. Should've gone for EspiranTo or something.
2020-06-09 23:34
+Lekr0 -Bymas
2020-06-09 23:35
1 match and you judge, such a retard
2020-06-09 23:38
1 match? he played 6 match and have 0.89 rating, he is so shit. its looks like a team busting 1 player to global that sucks in every game but have good teammates.
2020-06-09 23:41
You are shit
2020-06-10 11:13
LOL, braindead!
2020-06-14 04:07
not 1 match
2020-06-14 14:21
? KEKW
2020-06-14 14:45
One bad game and you flame him?
2020-06-09 23:39
One bad game, hes gotten over 1.0 in only 5 maps, hes played 15, hes below 1.0 66.6%r of the time.
2020-06-09 23:44
So you're not gonna give him a chance at all, this is his first time on a t1 team, you expect him to immediately perform lights out? That rarely even happens. Ropz and Frozen have had enough time to prove themselves. Give your opinion on bymas after he has spent as much time as ropz has on a t1 team.
2020-06-09 23:50
No because he shouldnt be here, he should be in a tier 2-3 team, at his level. Team like Faze are not for building mediocre talent in to decent players, they are for taking stars and taking them to next level, Bymas is a mediocre talent.
2020-06-09 23:54
At this point you're just hating, no point in continuing this discussion, you cannot be objective.
2020-06-09 23:54
No im not hating why is he here when there are more talented players who would do a better job. He wasnt even that good against the low tier teams he played against before, then he gets a promotion to faze, he hasnt earned it, he doesnt deserve it. Its like giving a fighter a title shot in his pro debut, its ridiculous.
2020-06-09 23:58
he is right
2020-06-10 00:51
#68
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Turkey TheKaiser
p0mpouS ?
2020-06-09 23:51
Faze need a good support player
2020-06-09 23:55
#76
valde | 
United States jax9
+ Maka
2020-06-09 23:56
lol
2020-06-14 14:21
#78
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
If you think ropz would replicate his current Mousesports stats while playing in Bymas/Olof's dogshit role on FaZe, you're delusional.
2020-06-09 23:58
Broky pulled over a 1.0 rating doing it, Stewie pulled over a 1.1 rating as an entry in his early years, it can be done, Bymas is worse than Olof, hes a downgrade.
2020-06-10 00:11
#80
sdy | 
Sweden god_sdy
FaZe looked pretty okayish tactically in their past games. A dedicated IGL that can't frag isn't going to improve this team unless they were to pick up gla1ve which we all know isn't likely lol. Bymas problem isn't the lack of IGL but lack of experience. He isn't fit for this level, even a silver should be able to see that. There is a difference between playing like shit because you have a bad series and playing like shit because you just isn't good enough. In Bymas case its the latter.
2020-06-09 23:59
+1 Also no one is saying he cant be good enough, he isnt good enough right now, many people dont get that.
2020-06-14 13:30
He definitely improved since this game (9/31), a year from now I think he can be a really exciting prospect. I just wonder if FaZe is really going to play him for the rest of the year or is he just a filler for the summer?
2020-06-14 16:51
I seriously have no idea but faze is doing wierd shit since karrigan kick in my opinion, they kicked Guardian even tho rain and olof droped worse in performance, niko IGL is never going to work out, coldzera buyout seems like it was done to gain BR fans, Bymas could deffiently be good player, i actually think if he continues to play and develop himself he will be scary nuke player on T side but right now you need someone who is really good if you want him in that shit position
2020-06-14 17:37
olof and rain didnt perform worse than guardian, wdym?
2020-06-15 10:59
hltv.org/stats/players/8183/rain?startDa.. hltv.org/stats/players/2757/GuardiaN?sta.. hltv.org/stats/players/885/olofmeister?s.. Look at the chart and change in september when Guardian joined Navi, he wasnt doing great but rain and olof were also shit, that team could have been saved if niko didnt want to IGL and i said olof and rain had bigger drop in performance than guardian which i still think its true, look at rains rating at beginning of 2019
2020-06-15 11:04
Just to correct anyone who says this is hating it isnt. This an e-sport, its based in performance, hes clearly not at the level of a tier 1 player, he can become that in a few years but waiting a few years for one player to improve is not a good strategy.
2020-06-10 00:07
The real problem is baitzera, washed up old player. It was very stupid move by faze to buy his transfer in the end of his professional career. Bymas and broky is the consequence, they don't have free money to sign a good player.
2020-06-10 00:15
You might actually be insane, get help.
2020-06-10 00:15
i didnt like the buy of cold at first but damn cold is there most consistent player right now putting up huge numbers and saving them so many times because of his individual skill
2020-06-10 00:26
#97
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Denmark HurtigeHH
U cant say a player isnt good enough, when hes literally playing tier 1 cs at the age of 16. He is obviously young, and that might be a big obstacle for him right now. Give him time and im sure he will blossom
2020-06-10 00:15
#98
sdy | 
Sweden god_sdy
He isn't good enough right now. No ones saying he can't be good enough in 6 months, 1 year or two years.
2020-06-10 00:16
#102
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Denmark HurtigeHH
Maybe you should write that, instead of what u wrote. A bit confusing tbh m8
2020-06-10 00:22
Ok fine he can have time in a lower tier team, i dont get the problem, go to a tier 2-3 team, gain experience of playing a real team, build up for a year or two then try tier 1. Dropping people who are clearly not ready into this situation is actually harmful, its like taking a novice fighter and putting him in the ring with a seasoned pro.
2020-06-10 00:22
I dont think it's a good move by Faze to wait 1-2 years for Bymas to maybe become a good player, when they can compete for the top team spot right now if they add 1 decent player.
2020-06-10 00:55
-bymas +IGL
2020-06-10 00:27
lmao FaZe fan thinks finding talents is easy. lol there are just handful of talents who can play for top teams. Finding them is so hard. You've to do research and all. Seriously if there were infinites of such talents, we won't have mediocrer professional players still playing in pro scene.
2020-06-10 00:28
#111
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Bulgaria MuggzZ
OMFGNEXACLUTCHFS1MPLEFZYWOOLETSGOGOG2
2020-06-10 00:38
#112
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Sweden txshirx
OMEGALUL
2020-06-10 00:37
OMEGALUL
2020-06-14 14:21
#113
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Brazil Manlai2k
9-31 LOL
2020-06-10 00:38
not even 10
2020-06-14 14:21
Faze is playing 2 more events until the player break, one of them is RtR sadly. Cologne is the next event after that and it's way later, late August. My point is - let them figure this stuff out over time, maybe Bymas will be better, maybe Olof will come back, maybe they will get someone else. Let's hope they will do well during this lower bracket and 2 next events
2020-06-10 00:47
#119
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Brazil zBieL
TRK >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BYMAS.
2020-06-10 00:47
+1
2020-06-14 14:22
Jamppi is real talent
2020-06-10 00:56
#153
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Portugal DiAZZZZZ
yeahh but he have the problem with the vac :/
2020-06-10 04:19
Yeah that sucks
2020-06-10 10:28
talent with vac :c
2020-06-14 14:22
true, its not only that they get shit on. you can hardly ever blame that on 1 player but he cant even get 10 kills over the course of 2 maps, get him out.
2020-06-10 00:56
#129
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Europe twitchy_
Why is everybody so mad? He's young, he's gonna do mistakes and he's gonna have bad matches. If you don't put 1million on the bank to buy someone on 20's, that's already a superstar, you need to give the kid some time, he's Tier 1 material and he did good matches/plays before. Btw, everyone had negative rating today, so...blame all the team and stop crying.
2020-06-10 00:58
whats giving you the impression that he's tier 1 material?
2020-06-10 00:59
he's in t1, its not a place to 'improve' or 'gather experience'. you're either good or get out, and he's clearly not ready.
2020-06-10 01:02
#149
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Bulgaria goshyy
He needs time in T3 or T2.. He is definitely not ready for T1 and he is literally proving it.
2020-06-10 03:54
almost as if he is a stand in
2020-06-10 01:06
#144
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Indonesia rezrex
should +jks ez top 1
2020-06-10 03:44
#147
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Bulgaria goshyy
Ok they need an IGL and they already spent a fortune, why not give V1c7or a chance? The guy is a free agent and was IGL of the year in FPL for 2016/2017 or something like that and he has experience as IGL against T1 teams and knows English since he played in international teams with bubble, not to mention he is only 25 years old which is not that much compared to the other free agents.
2020-06-10 03:53
Funny.... it's the same thing people were saying when Broky got picked up. But yeah, never give young players time, kick them right away and bring back Neo and Taz right?
2020-06-10 09:42
bro neo and taz ARE LEGENDS!!!!!! currently playing for a team called.. called...... forhonor? i think. also OLOF was really good you jsut need him wait for his third break where he comes back stronger than ever!!!! olof the over powered tec 9 GOD and getting boosted by his teammates for ez kills what a GOD.
2020-06-10 14:57
yes they are. They still won't get better from here on out and are legends from the past. That's the entire point.
2020-06-10 15:06
how dare you imply they are washed and still not gods? s1mple? who tf is that he was never better than god olof playing for real shit team and carrying them and definetely not going to shit after fnatic
2020-06-10 15:13
my laat thread checks out
2020-06-10 09:43
-bymas +michu
2020-06-10 10:30
no
2020-06-14 14:23
-bymas +sunlightyaay then
2020-06-14 14:24
He had 3 kills on inferno and 2 of those were in CT pistol off Niko's flash on 2 fully blind opponents lol
2020-06-10 10:50
The entire system they have with Faze doesn’t work. -Bymas +literally anyone and it still won’t work.
2020-06-10 10:53
hello p0mpous
2020-06-10 14:08
tier 5 player, average in fpl
2020-06-10 14:48
dont cry bitches, he will bring Faze to top3 soon
2020-06-10 14:49
u mean to top 30 i believe
2020-06-14 14:24
#177
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Estonia kapsXD
fucking hell kids legit 16 never played in even a t2 team and now he got picked up by faze and needs to play vs t1 teams with people like niko and cold. dont think you could go into your 1st ever team knowing that u will be playing with cold and niko and just calmly frag out every game
2020-06-10 14:53
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?> LULKL Even if I dont like FAZEdown... Bymas destoyed overratedAFs0mple... EzAsFucck hltv.org/matches/2341578/natus-vincere-v..
2020-06-12 23:42
I would give him a bit more time, he’s shown flashes of brilliance. Sure frozen and ropz were stellar when they were very young but that’s not the norm.
2020-06-13 00:05
#186
NEO | 
Poland r4v1x
0/8
2020-06-13 00:06
Just look at the way Obo plays at 16. Or Ropz or Frozen did. He's terrible. Faze is terrible and Niko still crys himself to sleep thinking about Boston. Dude was literally gift wrapped a major with four players you could argue were top 2 players at worst in various times during their careers and he as the young star dropped the ball on six match points against a clearly inferior opponent who's best players are now two years later actual support players. I suppose that'd fuck me up to.
2020-06-13 00:10
I loved how quickly you turned into bashing NiKo even though this topic is completely about bymas hahahhahahahahahah
2020-06-16 22:03
Frozen and Ropz are real talents, ropz at 17 has a 1.10 rating vs top 20 teams, Frozen at 16 was 1.13 vs top 20 teams, these are real talents, Bymas isnt one. 1.37 against Na`Vi :)
2020-06-13 00:10
0.93 rating at this event, zeus got a 30 bomb astralis once.
2020-06-14 14:20
#308
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Croatia DNM_ii
So because Zeus got a 30 bomb Bymas needs to get kicked. That makes absolutely 0 sense.
2020-06-16 03:46
No, im saying that even shit players can play well from time to time.
2020-06-16 12:03
This aged like fine fucking wine lmfao
2020-06-13 00:24
you gotta give him time he came from a tier 10000000 team you cant expect him to turn up right away he played amazing vs navi you just gotta give him time
2020-06-13 00:29
agreed need experience and tactical approach in the team who can balance these heavy hitters with even better executions and smart plays Alex would've been perfect but ehhh bymas clearly isn't the solution
2020-06-13 19:26
without experience it sucks
2020-06-14 14:24
yep kick young player who theyve only had on the team for 3 weeks because some retards on hltv said so, people said the exact same thing about broky
2020-06-13 19:39
broky is next kennyS
2020-06-14 04:03
#231
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Slovakia rapidbruv
Broky just baiter lol
2020-06-14 13:27
BIG is the most online team in CS history and they probably antistratted the fuck out of FaZe. give the kid time lol.
2020-06-13 19:47
#219
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United States raymoney
yeah they only go deep in tournaments when they had a 2 week bootcamp and break to antistrat people
2020-06-14 04:07
Space Soliders
2020-06-14 14:25
totally agree
2020-06-14 13:13
they did way better when they had a igl. they should maybe move back to that style of cs instead of only focus on firepower
2020-06-14 14:13
He has played ONE event with the top level, and he is playing decent given the circumstances. now i know why we faze fans get called brain dead, because of you.
2020-06-14 14:22
Until getting good igl, Faze won't win a major
2020-06-14 14:28
#281
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Albania Maltin
Criticising a 16 year old who came to the team only a month ago because he is not top fraging is a proof that you are kid who understands nothing about the game
2020-06-14 14:48
You're dumb you compared him to ropz and frozen who are the 2 stars of mouz put in the best positions and roles to succeed. Bymas is playing olofmeister's positions, entrying and playing supportive and anchor roles
2020-06-14 15:31
#285
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Turkey yunus06
actually +lekr0 good choice for faze
2020-06-14 17:44
#298
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Lithuania N0PEr
like uk is full of talents
2020-06-15 11:06
Teams should keep believing young talents. After one year in pro scene it will give products. Don't judge young talents at least first 6 months.
2020-06-15 11:15
WE SMART WE LOYAL WE FRIENDLY WE RESPECTFUL WE ARE BIG FANS #GoBIG
2020-06-15 18:09
-your mom
2020-06-15 18:10
#307
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Croatia DNM_ii
He's young, inexperienced and only a stand-in. Shut the actual fuck up when you have no idea what you're talking about.
2020-06-16 03:44
#315
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Turkey real_bob
I don't think that this thread is made in serious way. Bymas needs to find his position and condifence in FaZe Clan's (owned by group of YoTubers and socialmedia content creators) CSGO roster before he can start delivering nutty statistics! Just give him time and stop making fun of his "bad" showings...
2020-06-16 21:51
And how many rounds he's already clutched for faze?
2020-06-16 21:51
#323
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Europe twitchy_
Rating of 1.09 against top5 opponents and 1.08 against top 10. Averaging a 0.95 per tournament, which is similar to what Olof was doing lately.
2020-06-16 22:46
Give him time. This season is gone but he will reach his confidence in the next one.
2020-06-16 22:54
lekr0 wont be a good addition. ofc bymas is not the best but there not any good free players rn. and idk buyouts for star csgo players have gone crazy
2020-06-16 22:56
idiot
2020-06-16 22:57
This guy is 16yo. 16YO. And you think this guy will be able to adjust from t4 to t1 in such a short period of time
2020-06-16 22:57
how you gonna slay a 16yo kid, this is his first team exp, at least top level team, faze was already fucked before him, and now he has to adjust to their style of play, adjust to comms, strats, everything
2020-06-16 22:59
#335
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Ukraine Dert38
- "-" . (Reply needs to have actual content)
2020-06-16 23:34
#340
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Sweden paddeyo
Everyone is talking about frozen, ropz etc and not a single soul mentions Brollan, the champ of confidence at a young age.. To the subject, give him some more time to adapt, still too early to say if this was a good pickup or not.
2020-06-17 22:55
This is exactly what happened when Broky joined the team. He had a rough start but he eventually proved himself and now he is showing real signs of making hltv top 20. Just be patient, remember, he's 16.
2020-06-18 12:09
Making top20? Bro if we cut the begging of the year where he was still learning and building his playstyle i would say he is a decent top10 player but obv I am a little biased here
2020-06-18 12:18
I don't think the stats for TOP 10 are there yet. He plays around 1.10 rating, he is still more supportive than being the hot star. TOP 20 still would be a great result for him.
2020-06-18 22:25
#343
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Lithuania Vanga420
pay Lekr0 10k/month or pay bymas 800/month i would go with bymas :D
2020-06-18 12:10
#344
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Brunei cyLoL
Even Olof in slump better than this “rising Star”
2020-06-18 12:14
no one called him rising star, no one even thought that he was some god when he was still just fpl player. it's just niko thought he is good so decided to pick him up.
2020-06-18 12:30
#351
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Brunei cyLoL
Niko called him “rising star” nt men))
2020-06-18 12:33
bymas has no experiance in Tier 1. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/19015/Bym.. He only played in Demolition Crew in Tier 2. Give him time
2020-06-18 12:17
#352
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Latvia stenlijs
kick bymas kick olof kick flamie kick everyone stfu already
2020-06-18 12:34
#353
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Sweden SebbeN
Bymas has played with FaZe for 20 days and he´s 16 y/o. He is a talented player and a rising star. * Bymas stats against players in top 20 the last month: > More pitol kills then rain, niko and coldzera. > 0.01 diff between him and broky in opening kills. Bymas is doing a solid job as a young player in a star heavy team. Now Lekr0 is overall a better player but it would cost more for FaZe to get Lekr0 on a loan from NiP then picking up a young talent that cost almost nothing and does his job in the team. Yes he had a bad game against BIG but don´t forget the other games that hes played good and the fact that BIG won that tournament.
2020-06-18 12:40
exactly what im thinking, bymas was a very good option for faze, good opportunity for young talent to form and worst case scenario they just let him go much better idea than wasting money on a washed pro that might just perform even worse
2020-06-18 17:56
don't understand why people fanboy lekr0 so much, the guy doesn't seem like he's a talent? does he bring something else so valuable to the team?
2020-06-18 12:44
experienced players sometimes still choke under pressure so give the 16 year old some time, he went from playing FPL to playing in the same server as legends ive heard niko chose him because of his playstyle in fpl, once he is accustomed to playing these games with faze and feels comfortable we will see if he is a good pick or not
2020-06-18 17:55
no
2020-06-18 18:09
#360
Cy | 
Germany a_in_10
name checks out at least better rating than olof
2020-06-18 18:11
#365
jL | 
Estonia pj4
This uk idiot who created the topic has absolutely no idea on what teams need. Im sure Fazehas a slightly better knowledge on what fits them then this UK trash guy. Bymas has incredible skill ceiling you can see day by day that he is getting better. Also personality matters. Kid is humble and is willing to do any role and learn everything. This is very important for a team that already has big ego players like cold or niko. Im sure NIKO would not pick some random kid if he didnt know his skill capacity either... Just absolutely useless hate thread thats made here by some ignorant dude.
2020-06-18 22:34
#367
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Netherlands Titanos
Where you at now?
2020-06-18 22:35
I would put a meh player in place of Bymas. You need a player who can take a beating taking the dirty roles and can stall well. Not saying Bymas is bad but I would rather see him in a star player position. Maybe rain and Bymas switch positions in the future but for now FaZe are playing well I guess.
2020-06-18 22:36
Nordavind
1.40
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2.86
FATE
1.73
Galaxy Racer
2.05
ORDER
1.37
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2.99
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