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zywoo > s1mple proof here
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France Chylvain2 
zywoo vs navi > 14 games > +76 KD > 1.35 KD > 1.28 RATING s1mple vs vitality > 14 games > +28 KD > 1.12 KD > 1.07 RATING zywoo top1 2019 deserved s1mple top2 2019 underserved (zywoo > device > elige > s1mple) zywoo 2020 rating vs top 10 : 1.28 s1mple 2020 rating vs top 10 : 1.26 TLDR : - zywoo vs s1mple face to face zywoo rekt s1mple - zywoo is more consistent than s1mple vs big teams Need more proof or I can stfu ???
2020-06-11 15:11
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#1
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
if navi would play around s1mple like vitality play around Zywoo s1mple would've had a higher k/d.
2020-06-11 15:12
They play around s1mple wayyyy more. S1mple gets to bait every single round if he wants to
2020-06-11 15:13
#4
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
that's not true.
2020-06-11 15:14
sky do you watching really matches? cuz you not watching or 0 game sens
2020-06-11 15:15
#12
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
i do watch matches. Don't question my gamesense, I'm getting carried hard ok.
2020-06-11 15:16
then watch with eyes XD
2020-06-11 15:18
#18
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
i dont have i play with my ears
2020-06-11 15:18
Yes it looks like that
2020-06-11 15:19
That's hltv, bigger part brain dead and repeat one phrase every day
2020-06-11 17:02
#5
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France Chylvain2
I'm not sure we see the same games Perfecto always drop for s1mple deagle / scout on eco games ZywOo don't get drops and isnt afraid to play with usp or deagle by his own +s1mple never entry frags
2020-06-11 15:15
#6
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
and now in english and with proper statements please
2020-06-11 15:15
#7
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France Chylvain2
zywoo vs navi > 14 games > +76 KD > 1.35 KD > 1.28 RATING s1mple vs vitality > 14 games > +28 KD > 1.12 KD > 1.07 RATING zywoo top1 2019 deserved s1mple top2 2019 underserved (zywoo > device > elige > s1mple) zywoo 2020 rating vs top 10 : 1.28 s1mple 2020 rating vs top 10 : 1.26 TLDR : - zywoo vs s1mple face to face zywoo rekt s1mple - zywoo is more consistent than s1mple vs big teams
2020-06-11 15:15
#9
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
if navi would play around s1mple like vitality play around Zywoo s1mple would've had a higher k/d.
2020-06-11 15:15
I'm not sure we see the same games Perfecto always drop for s1mple deagle / scout on eco games ZywOo don't get drops and isnt afraid to play with usp or deagle by his own +s1mple never entry frags
2020-06-11 15:17
#16
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France Chylvain2
and now in english and with proper statements please
2020-06-11 15:18
I'm so confused now
2020-06-11 15:19
#48
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Romania Iosif
ikr wtf is going on
2020-06-11 15:39
#20
Boo | 
France mbl4
and now in english and with proper statements please
2020-06-11 15:19
#22
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
that is proper English baguette go learn london connard
2020-06-11 15:20
#31
Boo | 
France mbl4
lmao "if navi would play" surely is nice english go back to school retard
2020-06-11 15:24
#32
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
wahahhahah fix your london some native come laugh at this guy please
2020-06-11 15:25
#35
Boo | 
France mbl4
well nt but the only correct forms would be: >"if Na'Vi would have played ..." >"If Na'Vi played ..." >"If Na'Vi were playing ..." >"If Na'Vi had been playing ..." >"If Na'Vi had played ..." (but it's not really correct because we are talking about current Na'Vi) Fix your "london" and don't think you can speak proper english because you are better than the average russian, stupid kid
2020-06-11 15:29
#36
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
hahahhaha ching chong your English is wrong but because you're clearly that special aid kid I'll rephrase the sentence for you ''If NaVi would play like Vitality does with Zywoo''
2020-06-11 15:30
#38
Boo | 
France mbl4
Yep still wrong lmao, I think you should go to school more often dude. Check on the internet if you still don't see the mistake
2020-06-11 15:31
#40
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
did you try googling British English instead of French English?
2020-06-11 15:32
#41
Boo | 
France mbl4
haha yeah ofc writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/con.. Idk what this website is but it's the first one that appears when I type "if conjugation" so I hope it can help
2020-06-11 15:35
#43
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr
do u even know what would/would've means
2020-06-11 15:38
Dude, you are fucking wrong XDDDDDDD
2020-06-11 16:29
You are trying to lecture a guy who is right yet you can't use Past Perfect
2020-06-11 16:31
Fucking embarassing xdd
2020-06-11 18:29
#37
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France Chylvain2
+1 u rekt him ty my baguette friend
2020-06-11 15:30
2020-06-11 16:36
hltv.org/stats/players/individual/7398/d.. hltv.org/stats/players/individual/8183/r.. hltv.org/stats/players/individual/9278/R.. I'm legit trying to find a player with less entrys, and im looking through entryfraggers/starplayers There's a reason the dudes has been at #1 opening duels past 2 years, dont blindly hate please. Hope you're doing fine buddy!
2020-06-11 16:43
hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star.. Here you go, getting first pick on CT with awp isn't "entry fragging". No other top player has as low entry attempts as s1mple.
2020-06-11 19:31
?????????????? XDDD >big events.* Still a mopping 18% throughout 390 maps, and with highest success rate You must be a mongoloid if you think he's bad at entryfragging.
2020-06-11 19:37
Also zywoo isnt evne in the top30 on entrylist. so please... xddddd
2020-06-11 19:38
Also, leaving a site to play retake, leaving ct to run in first and get a kill, is also an entry frag. just sayin' boy :P
2020-06-11 19:40
Altho its very true you cant entryfrag as an ct everyround, but opening kills isnt the same as entry frags. opening kills is the kills you get when the round starts(IMO The first kill.) which on T side is refered to entry frag There's nothing to really entry-frag in early round as CT, IMO. CTs have to be watching their spots and defending. The responsibility is on the Ts to push. You can play an aggressive CT side, sure, but without a clear idea of what area you're taking, there's no point to entry-fragging. Hence why you should be doing it on retakes, rather than early on.
2020-06-11 19:42
The point I came to make is that s1mple is not an entry fragger because you were listing opening kills to claim that s1mple is an entry fragger. I never said s1mple is bad at entry fragging. You can't fairly judge opening kills on CT using stats because a majority of them are boosted by awp holding angles vs rifles. If you look at CT only cerq is better at "entry fragging" at Big Events All Time than s1mple, which shows how meaningless the stat is on CT. I'll elaborate a bit more on the stats: 1) I used Big Events All Time for larger sample size, which includes 2018-2020 and also because people play loosely online and in less important events vs lower tier teams. s1mple has only 13.6% entry attempts in 2020 Big Events, which goes up to 17.8% in All Matches. 2) Since there are 5 players in a team, if you have less than 20% entry attempts it means someone else is taking first contact more often than you. Entry fraggers on navi are boombl4 and electronic with 25.4% and 25% entry attempts respectively in 2020 Big Events. 3) s1mple isn't a bad entry fragger; he simply isn't an entry fragger. He was the top entry fragger in 2015 (30% entry attempts, 51.8% success, 1.2 entry rating on LAN) 4) I suspect zywoo isn't shown in Big Events because he has too few maps played, like how s1mple doesn't show up in 2015-2017 Big Events but does appear if you look at LAN. Zywoo on LAN All Time (this includes 2019-2020) has 22.3% entry attempts, so he does entry a lot more than s1mple. As for the actual matches, I watched s1mple entry less every year until I saw him hold in dust B tunnels last year without trading his teammates and I can no longer watch him. There's no way you can call him an entry fragger if you watch any navi games against good teams. I didn't watch many vitality matches and in the ones I did (usually Navi vs Vitality) zywoo took on the entry role roughly half the time. After taking a look at the stats I can see that he definitely entries more than s1mple.
2020-06-11 21:25
I never stated that simple was an entryfragger. i simply said he have better successrate on a larger scale of maps than alot of entryfraggers. Was simply responding to the boy saying ''simple never entryfrags'' which is COMPLETELY false.
2020-06-11 22:06
who cares zywootality is out
2020-06-11 15:13
#45
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France ilian_87
They threw the game yesterday to have some rest after playing too much games in a row and before 2 more importants events. Vitality's coach said DH was not the priority, that 2 players are close to burnout
2020-06-11 15:39
ok then gl for vitality in the next tournaments
2020-06-11 15:40
I was biggest fan of zywoo, but he is not as talented as s1mple, and that's why i am s1mple's fan
2020-06-11 15:15
#13
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France Chylvain2
2020-06-11 15:17
#10
jL | 
Estonia pj4
i was total s1mple fanboy but then i saw some zywoos demos and man o man that guy is absolute robot.
2020-06-11 15:15
#14
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France Chylvain2
+1 same
2020-06-11 15:17
that wouldnt suprise me if we're told some day that he was cheating all this time(((
2020-06-11 15:20
#28
jL | 
Estonia pj4
yeah i watched some random faceit games and his movement is absolutely perfecty and he insta taps everyone its really nice to watch, no mistakes aiming wise ever
2020-06-11 15:21
s1mple and zywoo gods just s1mple just a bit better
2020-06-11 15:20
flair checks out
2020-06-11 16:53
#24
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Denmark Kon10R
Is it reeeally that interesting to you guyz who's the better "superhero" in this game? Dev1ce, Elige, Niko, Coldzerra, KennyS ... they're all just wonderful players, right?!
2020-06-11 15:20
yes they are
2020-06-11 15:21
#30
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Denmark Kon10R
+1 Juzz sit back, enjoy, eat some popcorn ... I don't care who's winning or losing. It's great to watch true professionals!
2020-06-11 15:23
+1 but you know as a frenchmens I want zywoo to be better than s1mple that's just why people are making comparisons. But ofc both are godlike (even if s1mple is playing really badly these days)
2020-06-11 15:26
#42
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Denmark Kon10R
I understand your patriotism: i wish Astralis to win everything all the time! 😎 But that's not how the real world works. And we all have ups'n'downs in life. The difference is that your's and/or my slumps or mistakes in life aren't recorded and broadcasted online! 😁 Zywoo is in my opinion "growing up" these days. He came up from nowhere as a youngster with phenomenal individual skills, but now he is adapting to the pro-scene: Not always winning every dual, but he's getting accostumed to playing at the very top level. We will alll be entertained by this wonderful player for years to come.
2020-06-11 15:36
Yes You are too smart mens
2020-06-11 15:38
#52
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Denmark Kon10R
Danx, Maestro! 😎👍
2020-06-11 15:42
+1
2020-06-12 20:33
+1
2020-06-11 15:21
30 Maps difference against top 10 10 maps difference against top 5 Think about it.
2020-06-11 15:22
#33
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Nepal sasukeee
I salute your stupidity.
2020-06-11 15:26
#39
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France Chylvain2
I salute your argument to prove me wrong.
2020-06-11 15:31
#47
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Nepal sasukeee
coz you are, why not compare the top 10 or 20. Only comparing a specific point to prove is stupidity. you need to compare all the possible points.
2020-06-11 15:39
#54
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France Chylvain2
I alreaddy did it and zywoo as anyway better stats vs s1mple + vs big teams (top5 10 20 30 etc...) I know ppl dont read all topic so I write what I want I dont care if u are mad because zywoo > s1mple and you cant even prove me wrong :) peace
2020-06-11 15:50
#73
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Nepal sasukeee
2020-06-11 18:31
but you only compare 1 spécific point
2020-06-11 18:38
#103
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Nepal sasukeee
2020, all match. that all the point brain dead.
2020-06-12 06:19
When the topic is #1 2019 desserved, not really Not to mention that by you stupid logic, best player right now is smooya....
2020-06-12 18:47
#106
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Nepal sasukeee
fuck off asshole, where the fuck in 2019 mentioned in the post?
2020-06-12 19:24
Just read again OP, i can't tell you anything else. And next time, do it before calling people assholes, you won't look dumb
2020-06-12 20:30
BTW it won't change the fact that with your stupid logic, Smooya>>>s1mple in 2020
2020-06-12 20:31
#110
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Nepal sasukeee
The comparing is between simple and zywoo MF, Also will not a change the fact that, you are an asshole.
2020-06-13 15:49
I don't say the comparaison is between other players, but your argument posting Rating comparaison since the begining of the year just shows how stupid it is, because Smooya is leading that ranking and is far from being the best player in the world. If your peanut brain can't understand that seriously... And that's also why how they play when they face is a good indicator.
2020-06-13 20:44
You're an ape, jesus..
2020-06-11 22:09
vs top 5? baguet
2020-06-11 15:39
#50
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
Need more proof
2020-06-11 15:42
ahahahahahhahahahaaha
2020-06-11 15:42
s1mple 0.05 rating with more matches and has more event won and a MVP...
2020-06-11 15:42
s0mple is 3 years older. Let's see how much zywoo has achieved when he's 22. 100% he'll have more than s0mple will ever get.
2020-06-11 16:53
wtf
2020-06-11 16:56
+1
2020-06-11 15:52
#56
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Ukraine malysh
youtube.com/watch?v=9V3UICnzbmg timekod 6:00 simple vs zywoo
2020-06-11 15:53
#60
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Switzerland noxer*
Vs top 5? Fucktard S1mple its so much better than zywho beta cuck
2020-06-11 16:39
#62
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Moldova shawww
Haha,so you're comparing based only on the games Vitality vs Na'Vi. *clap clap* you just proved what an idiot you are. No hate towards Vitality or Zywoo,but this is bullshit. Ye Zywoo had a great year but s1mple was right behind him no matter what.
2020-06-11 16:46
#63
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Poland v1ctorex
Haha not true at all show us rating vs top5 teams :) s1mple played like 40 maps vs tpp5 teams - 1.28 rating Cya hah
2020-06-11 16:49
zywoo: 19 years old s0mple: 22 years old says enough for me. Imagine when zywoo is 22, he'll be better than s0mple ever was. Kid is 22 and still hasn't won a Major, what a bot.
2020-06-11 16:54
#68
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France Chylvain2
+1 ty :)
2020-06-11 16:59
zywoo 1.28(26 maps) s1mple 1.25(52 maps)
2020-06-11 17:00
zywoo so good player. but s1mple better
2020-06-11 17:02
#75
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2020-06-11 18:32
#74
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Serbia LtN))
put s1mple in team with 4 bots and see what happens
2020-06-11 18:31
Flipsid3 and HR
2020-06-11 18:33
#79
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Serbia LtN))
i mean now
2020-06-11 18:35
yeah and he didnt even do half of what Vitality did with those 2 teams
2020-06-11 18:41
? lets forgot about him carrying HR to a top 8 in major by beating Fnatic (the goat team at the time) to get first in groups
2020-06-11 18:42
Zywoo did the same and won tournaments and won MVPs and been #1
2020-06-11 18:45
All the tournaments they won didn't even have the top 1 team there LMAO, and the one time they could have beat AST in ECS furia beat them and they had an ez final. Every time they won it wasn't just Zywoo hard carrying there was always a second player consistently performing. Zywoo had a good year, but its obvious since about october last year his form has been dropping while s1mple still consistently getting 1.3 ratings since 2018/2017
2020-06-11 18:49
Still Zywoo did better with 4 bots in Vitality than s1mple with HR/F3 not to mention that your argument is totally invalid cause HR/F3 alors played low level tournaments without any top team and still didnt win ans of them meanwhile, Zywoo and Vitality won TIER ONZ tournaments even thou there was "no top team"
2020-06-11 19:00
he always had 3 bots if he had 4 bots he never wins the tournament. Also s1mple had in HR ange1 markeloff kucher and dosia LMAO far worse than shox/nbk rpk alex and apex
2020-06-11 18:59
He hard carried Vitality to all thèse wins LMAO
2020-06-11 19:01
but he still had a second player that was playing well. They had 2-3 performing players in all those wins.
2020-06-11 19:02
and you say that thet didnt win against yop teams in those tournaments ? Epicenter beat mous and NAVI (unless you think navi is Trash lol) ECS win against NRG which was top 4 at this moment And more importantly in Cologne they beat Astralis NRG FNC and ENCE all solid teams Black then
2020-06-11 19:12
yeah sure... thats certainly why he got MVPs even finishing second anithet thing s1mple didnt do in HR/F3 and is purely basée on individual performance
2020-06-11 19:15
s1mple had a far worse team and MVPs are impossible to get unless you make the finals of a tournaments. Lets not forget the person who started the trend of giving individual awards to the people who deserve them and not the winning team, can you remind me who did that???
2020-06-11 19:21
cherry picking at the highest level
2020-06-11 18:33
#78
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Lithuania SiTyGas
Zywoo used to be >> S1mple, but not anymore, so you can stfu
2020-06-11 18:33
vs top1 Astralis?!
2020-06-11 19:13
check stats vs top 5 XD
2020-06-11 19:37
ZywOo>S1mple But then you have to think about tarik and stewie2k, and think about fallen as well, and twist or twiztsss or twiztsz that guy from team solid
2020-06-12 06:28
u forgot how much is navi setting up s1mple zywoo is almost sacrificing for the team, he is even entrying cuz apex is stupid af and s1mple is padding stats from behind lul
2020-06-13 15:51
Last 12 months: Player Teams Maps K-D Diff K/D Rating s1mple Natus Vincere 151 +932 1.39 1.27 ZywOo Vitality 159 +775 1.30 1.26 hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-06.. 2020 (top 20): hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. 2020 (top 10): hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. 2020 (top 5): hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. Conclusion: s1mple is #1!
2020-06-13 16:02
why do you kids all hate s1mple so much lol. he is the best player to ever touch cs go. admit it and go get a life
2020-06-13 20:54
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3.95
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