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Jammpi LawSuit
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Ukraine potapUA 
Any new information our Finnish friends,? I heard somewhere that there should be new information on 15.06.2020, I am quite interested in how this will end up :-D.
2020-06-15 14:19
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2020-06-15 14:20
#31
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Singapore Ellusive11
probably lost to didn't post in embarrasment
2020-06-15 15:17
+1
2020-06-15 15:21
haven't seen anything in finnish media or jamppi's twitter yet atleast.
2020-06-15 14:25
Yup same here!
2020-06-15 14:26
thats because you live in sweden!
2020-06-15 14:54
XD i still follow finnish media and jamppi twitter account=)
2020-06-15 15:03
fakeflagger, you're probably not finnish
2020-06-15 15:04
tg stp
2020-06-15 17:42
#6
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Ukraine potapUA
OK guess we will have to stay tuned and wait for it :-D.
2020-06-15 14:28
dont hold your breath. they have game today so maybe focusing on that.
2020-06-15 14:29
#8
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Ukraine potapUA
Well, I suppose there will be some hltv.org post or something. They do not really need Jammpi today to give us some information.
2020-06-15 14:31
no but if there is some information coming out it will take some attention off from the actual game and maybe add some tension for jamppi idk. i think it would be better to wait (if i was their media person). then again im stupid idiot so maybe they know better.
2020-06-15 14:34
depends on valves answer too ofc
2020-06-15 14:34
#12
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Ukraine potapUA
They said they already received an answer but they will give us information and comment on it till 15th of June.
2020-06-15 14:35
Its not about any media person, its about jamppis lawyer giving information to iltasanomat for example.
2020-06-15 15:17
jjamppi already knows the answer
2020-06-15 15:25
#4
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Russia nobody_cars
Did he get GabensDick.jpg as his answer?
2020-06-15 14:28
prbly 3=====D
2020-06-15 14:28
hahahhaa
2020-06-15 14:37
"Current plan is that we make a statement by [June 15]," Kalkas told Ilta-Sanomat in an email. dbltap.com/posts/valve-responds-to-jampp..
2020-06-15 14:32
#13
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Ukraine potapUA
Yes that is why I am asking because it is 15th of June and Finnish people know about their media and news more than us.
2020-06-15 14:36
Patience :)
2020-06-15 14:58
exactly. it was a PLAN to make a statement by 15.6. So it might take longer.
2020-06-15 17:41
hahaha whats he suing them for ? "i was 14 and didnt know cheats were bad?" gtfo punk kid, you take what you get for being a cheater
2020-06-15 14:38
He is suing them for compensation for valve making him lose the OG contract because he can’t play in majors. But apparently he just bought the account that was cheated on and his friend cheated on the account not jamppi
2020-06-15 14:44
Such a cool story. Tell us more.
2020-06-15 15:20
What? I was just telling what I know. I think this is the story at least the one that I heard but it could be different
2020-06-15 16:11
Shadap.
2020-06-15 16:12
No thank you
2020-06-15 16:15
maybe if you read the lawsuit you wouldn't be asking this silly question
2020-06-15 14:45
#19
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Ukraine potapUA
Lets even consider the fact that he cheated, he was 14 years old I do not see a reason why he should be responsible and get a full life ban when it was not even in the competitive scene. There is a reason why kids aren't responsible for their actions and they shouldn't most certainly be banned for all their life. He could have got a professional contract, attend tournaments and have a huge salary, so it is logical he wants some compensation because the way valve is acting is retarded. If they do not want cheaters that much they would never make CS:GL for free lol.
2020-06-15 14:53
#23
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Poland Amirek
Ah yes, if he gets unbanned, all cheaters should be unbanned then
2020-06-15 14:57
#35
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Russia Nikosimus
otvechu po-russki tebe: ibo nehuy kakaya raznitsa, skolko emu bilo let, chei eto akk i kto chiteril - zato bolshe tak nikto ne budet delat, nado bilo dumat do etogo golovoi, kogda chiteril/pokupal paleniy akk
2020-06-15 15:23
#39
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Ukraine potapUA
Kakaya raznitsa, skolko emu bilo let? Rebjonek nedumaetj golovoi kogda on malenkyi i nevidetj sto mozhet bitj v budushim. Prosti, no eto ochenj bolshoya raznitska, skolko cheloveku let.
2020-06-15 15:30
#41
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Russia Nikosimus
Ya ne dumayu, chto na ofitsialnom urovne budet kakoe-to snishozhdenie k tomu, skolko emu bilo let Oni posmotryat acc - chiti bili, acc ego: vse, svoboden Mb on i ne chuvstvoval otvetstvennosti iz-za vozrasta, da, no eto ploho, i on za eto poplatitsaya, dumayu Valve pochti tochno budet poheru na to, skolko emu tam let bilo, pravila odni i te zhe dlya vseh vozrastov
2020-06-15 15:35
#46
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Ukraine potapUA
Neznaju kak u vas v Rossii, no ja zhivu v Tsechii, i u nas tyt chelovek neotvichaetj za svoi dela do 18 let. Jestli ukradotj sto to rebjonok kogda jemu 15 let, i jestli ukradotj vzrostlyi chelovek sto to, eto ochenj bolshoya roznitsa.. V etom smysle eto dolzhno bit tozhe tak, ty nemozhesh postupatj odinakovo s chelovekom kogda emu 18 let i kogda emu 14. Ty dumaesh vobshe po drugomu, kogda ty nevzrostlij i u tebje net tu oput.
2020-06-15 15:41
#47
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Russia Nikosimus
Estestvenno, kogda eto kasaetsya prestupleniy, do 18 let vse ot stepeni tyazhesti zavisit, no vot konkretno v sluchae s Jamppi ya bi lichno ne stal isklyucheniya delat, potomu chto v igru na visokom urovne i do 18 mozhno igrat i tochno tak zhe bit pro igrokom, tak chto pravila, kak po mne, dolzhi bit odinakovi Posmotrim, chto budet v itoge
2020-06-15 15:41
#51
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Ukraine potapUA
Nemogutj bit pravila odinakovi dlja molodych rebjat. I eto tozhe nepravda, ty nemozhesh bitj pro igrakom do 18 let, to est podpisatj profesionalnij kontrakt. I on neispolzoval cheaty v igrach na visokom urovne. On ich dopustim ispolzoval kogda emu bylo 14 let prosto 4fun na kakom to random matche gde vobshe nemozhesh vigratj dengi i nichego s etovo nepoluchish. Nemozhesh dat rebjonku ban na vsju zhizhn za to, sto on ispolzoval chity kogda emu bylo 14 let, dazhe nemozhesh evo strafovatj, on neotvichajetj za svoi dela do 18 let.
2020-06-15 15:54
#53
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Russia Nikosimus
Nu pochemu kontakti ne mozhesh podpisivat - von sergei, Brollan igrali zhe A s Jamppi, posmotrim, chto budet, sud uzhe luchse, dumayu, znaet, chem mi tut na hltv)
2020-06-15 16:08
#59
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Ukraine potapUA
Nemozhesh podpisatj kontrakt do 18 let, jestli podpisali kontrakt eto podpisali roditeli sto pozvolojutj rebjonku eto delatj, no za vsjo sto sluchitsja budut otvichatj roditeli a ne rebjonok. I estli neoshibajusj, jest tozhe kakoj to vozrostj do kotorovo nemozhesh igratj na LAN. V 14 let tochno nemozhesh igratj profesionalno na LANE, maximum online turnir. Vot pochemu dumaesh M0nesy neigraetj za NAVI JR, oni evo tolko podpisali i zdhutj kogda u nevo legalno budetj vozmozhnost igratj na LAN, eto gde to ot 17 let.
2020-06-15 16:21
#60
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Russia Nikosimus
Do 16 nelzya, ya pomnyu, kak brollan sidel i zhdal nu hz, kakie tam formalnosti, no ya dumal, chto s 16 uzhe mozhno, raz podpisivayut i igayut
2020-06-15 16:56
#61
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Ukraine potapUA
Ladno ja schas neznaju na 100% s 16 mozhno togda mozhno davat banny ot 16 let potomu sto jestli mozhesh ich banavoat no im zapretino igratj profesionalno sto za bred?)
2020-06-15 17:05
#63
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Russia Nikosimus
hz, cestno govorya, poetomu i govoryu, chto tam sudi i advokati luchshe nas znayut, her s nimi))
2020-06-15 17:34
He is suing them for financial losses due to the ban which he says was unjustified
2020-06-15 14:54
funny thats what all the cheaters say, if we started believing little cousin stories you wouldnt be here pal, you'd playing a different game. He fucked up, hes paying the price. He bought an account? EXACTLY why? for the steamid? punk play, now you pay double the price.
2020-06-15 15:12
You don't even seem to know what he claims to have happened so why are you even commenting on it? He did not buy an account
2020-06-15 15:14
im just reading what people are posting here m8
2020-06-15 15:33
Why are you supporting a Corporation wIth 0 respect to the players and all about profit? Jamppi is a huge talent. He shows it on the big stage right now (online, ik). Why should a mistake, in a none competitive invironment result in a lifetime ban? He is not cheating anymore. It’s sooooo stupid. Vavle should just let him play, wtf. Anyone who disagree just lives sour lives and begrudge other peoples succes and happiness. Bc other peoples misery makes you feel like you are not alone. Gtfo valve lover
2020-06-15 15:35
valve lover LOL shut the f up and dont cheat BECAUSE YOU WILL GET FUCKED one way or another and neither one of us can change that.. Also i dont like cheaters i hope you know that by now. Whatever may have happened does not matter as they dont have the time to keep up with 14 year old kids "making mistakes"
2020-06-15 15:44
I don't like them either, but I do not wish unfair punishments on people, and this is definitely unfair. If you can't see that then you are delusional
2020-06-15 17:38
Yea! Poor wittle Jammpi was a victim!
2020-06-15 17:30
i would feel like a victim, if i was so good at csgo after so many hours and i could never play major bc i cheated once or twice as a preteen 5 years ago. Imagine having the skills to play competetive csgo, but is denied due to a little mistake when you were 13. Earning good money and travelling doing what you love. I feel bad for the guy. I would be so devastated.
2020-06-15 17:57
He still can play, lol. Just not on majors.
2020-06-15 17:40
That denied him a spot on OG roster
2020-06-15 17:59
And? He cheated, he lost his spot, and now Valve should pay him? Just wtf?
2020-06-15 18:11
You are a shallow human, if you can’t forgive a young player who made a mistake 5 years ago. -In a none competetive invironment.
2020-06-15 19:04
... but not all alleged cheaters do not sue them for it. so it's still interesting and good example for the future even if they would keep the ban.
2020-06-15 16:09
He got a pigs head in the mail in return
2020-06-15 14:46
He will get nothing out of it nt tho good effort
2020-06-15 14:56
He will get a fat bill from losing the case))
2020-06-15 15:02
Valve said Jamppi can go sleep into garbage.
2020-06-15 15:19
fuck that little weasel get a real job u ratty cunt
2020-06-15 15:25
#38
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Russia Nikosimus
I can just say that Jamppi is guilty and it doesnt even matter if he had cheated or not He is dumb either because he cheated of because he bought a 'bad' account, he should have thought before, not now when he got fcked for it A good example set by Valve, maybe less retards will cheat/buy strange accs now
2020-06-15 15:26
HLTV Justice Department has spoken. /closed
2020-06-15 15:35
#44
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Russia Nikosimus
flag checks out, idk why you have to be so salty, I just expressed my own opinion and said that I wouldnt forgive him if I were Valve
2020-06-15 15:36
what part of my message was salty? :D
2020-06-15 15:37
#49
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Russia Nikosimus
Idk, just that HLTV Justice Department thing seemed so sarcastic, I thought you were TrOlLiNg me :P
2020-06-15 15:44
Just dank banter m8 👌😎
2020-06-15 15:50
#54
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Russia Nikosimus
ok you get your 5/7 for that b8
2020-06-15 16:08
he should have thought a friend of him would cheat on an old account he gave to him? how is that worth a lifetime ban?
2020-06-15 17:41
#72
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Russia Nikosimus
If he thought about his future, he'd definitely not take suspicious accounts back and, first of all, not give any accs to FrIeNdS I've played CS for 7 years and never gave my acc to anybody, same with skins, and I have no VAC problems And btw I can hardly believe this story with a friend who cheated on his acc, there was a thread on Reddit where someone found out a lot of subsequent bans and account creating stuff from Jamppi
2020-06-15 17:58
ah yes, because at like 13 you are thinking "hm, I'm gonna be a pro at this game someday for sure". It's stupid, you have to stop thinking about what they did and more about how Valve apply their rules. Banning for life a player for cheating on a random matchmaking when they were a kid is stupid as hell
2020-06-15 18:12
#76
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Russia Nikosimus
What should they do? Let a cheater play on the highest level? Make an exception for him? The biggest problem is that they cant make an exception for him, it'd be unfair towards all the other cheaters (or whoever has an acc with VAC)
2020-06-15 18:36
there shouldn't even be such an unfair rule in the first place, this is not an "exception" case, just proof that you can't make a general rule about something that should be analized in a case by case basis
2020-06-15 19:06
cheat = ban is unfair rule lul nice logic
2020-06-15 19:08
Life time ban*
2020-06-15 19:17
currently the rule is life time ban if you want to change it, then change it for every single banned steam account
2020-06-15 19:18
yes, changing the rules, that's my point, glad we agree
2020-06-15 19:35
i agree with changing the rules (probalby only for under 18 players) but then it should be for everyone
2020-06-15 20:00
of course, but like I said before, this should be a done in a case by case basis
2020-06-16 01:45
#80
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Russia Nikosimus
Where is the edge between forgiving the cheaters/not forgiving then?
2020-06-15 19:08
context. v$m cheated when he was like 12 on a random mm game. jamppi ALLEGEDLY cheated at around 13 also on mm (he claims he wasn't in control of that account at the time). KQLY tested cheats while he was a pro player and openly admitted it (no proof of him using cheats on pro tournaments). forsaken cheated on LAN and several online tournaments and qualifiers and tried to cover it, even claiming to be the victim at the end. Do you think these 4 guys deserve the exact same punishment?
2020-06-15 19:40
#87
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Russia Nikosimus
Probably not if you think as a human being but formally, from, say, Valve's POV, all 4 of them owned an account with cheats and from that POV...Why cant they all be treated the same?
2020-06-15 19:54
reputation, if you give the right punishments people will respect you and your company. Valve isn't run by machines
2020-06-16 01:47
#91
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Netherlands toothpaste
good to see all the lawyers hang out on hltv
2020-06-16 01:49
There has been no update yet, i think there is gona be no news today, maybe tomorrow
2020-06-15 19:36
Valve is on the west coast in the US. It almost 11AM there. Might take some time
2020-06-15 19:37
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