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top 20 2020 prediction
Ukraine luki_ru 
seeing as I have seen many recently I have decided to make one. Note that I am doing this by skill imo but I know hltv loves NA players. 1. s1mple 2. NiKo 3. Device 4.ZywOo 5. electronic 6. ropz 7. Dupreeh 8. KennyS 9. Brollan 10. huNter- 11. EliGE 12. broky 13. mir 14. syrsoN 15. KRIMZ 16. Magisk 17. Stewie2K 18. flusha 19. KSCERATO 20. boombl4 Honourable mentions: nexa, allu, Brehze, Bubzkji
2020-06-18 17:06
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#1
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Finland pokka
what has devve done in 2020??
2020-06-18 17:07
Idk but he is a decent defensive awper
2020-06-18 17:09
what has zywoo done in 2020?
2020-06-19 17:47
Baiting?
2020-06-20 05:23
true. hes baiting a lot this year.
2020-06-20 05:25
Nice, ty for checking my profile newfaq
2020-06-20 05:27
Too ez lol l2p
2020-06-20 06:00
s1mple does it a lot too (even in those recent matches its visible) yet no one argues that he's still top 1? At least Zywoo plays more with his team
2020-06-20 12:40
I think he can do top 8, but deffinetly not top 5.
2020-06-20 10:47
The main reasonI included zywoo is 1. He’s shown he has the potential to play very well. 2. If I didn’t put him in top 5 I wouldn’t be able to hear from all the screaming zywoo fans.
2020-06-21 04:38
1.20 rating thus far, top 4 in katowice and they won the rtr event.
2020-07-08 14:09
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. Niko 4. device 5. elige the rest idk
2020-06-18 17:07
#6
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United Kingdom alcazar4
+1 niko so stronk so far this year, not quite as much as zywoo but still impressive
2020-06-18 17:09
niko stronk mens))
2020-06-22 11:33
elige over device
2020-06-18 17:15
xaxaxaxa
2020-06-19 17:47
#164
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United States YEP_COCK
what exactly has device done in 2020?
2020-06-20 05:43
#224
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Latvia IzzoR
certainly more than a team that literaly cannot even dominate NA anymore
2020-06-20 15:35
#225
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United States YEP_COCK
this is individual skill talk not team talk. Also astralis is shit rn too so 0/8
2020-06-20 19:54
#227
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Latvia IzzoR
i mean you are just blind if you think elige has even individually outperformed device who is playing with 3/5 astralis. or is it so hard to open match history?
2020-06-20 20:17
#228
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United States YEP_COCK
when tf did i say elige was better than device?
2020-06-20 20:23
dawg, if you open march history, EliGe is literally #3, behind s1mple and Zyw0o
2020-06-21 08:46
You really think device is better than Elige? Have you even seen Elige playing? He's a fucking beast..what device does is hold an angle with the awp and wait for 2 or 3 idiots to walk into is scope and surprisingly they do so happily
2020-06-29 05:14
Funny thing is, even during a period where 40% of the Astralis roster is removed + making one of their players IGL for the first time, they still outperform liquid
2020-06-22 11:26
won ESL one RtR EU
2020-06-22 11:25
Boombla? Are u serious? Stewie? There is literally no way. I agree with some, can’t say I approve tho
2020-06-18 17:09
boombl4 can play very well and is “IGL”. Without Stewie, liquid wouldn’t be top 20
2020-06-18 17:10
Not sure man. They are fundamental to their team, but they aren’t anything super stat wise to get into top 20
2020-06-18 17:11
I know, but despite his stats, boombl4 can actually frag well and just how vital stewie is to liquid gets him to the list, without him elige wouldn’t be there either
2020-06-18 17:13
without stewie liquid aren't as good but that doesn't mean he is individually a top 20 player and the role he plays doesn't matter if he's an IGL because the list isn't about that otherwise gla1ve should be top 1 2018
2020-06-18 17:16
I can’t put gla1ve on the list because his future is unpredictable rn. I think igling does count as skill tho
2020-06-18 17:18
I meant 2018, IGLing doesn't matter for the list
2020-06-18 17:19
I don’t really have a good comeback. It’s just my opinion that igling counts. Gla1ve was really good in 2018 tho
2020-06-18 17:22
hltv doesn't care about your opinion, sorry.
2020-06-18 17:23
This ain’t really a prediction as much as a list of who I think will be the best. I started trying to predict but then I remembered Hoth is retard so I just said who I think will be best actually, not according to hltv. A real hltv prediction would go: 1.EliGE 2. NAF 3. Twistzz 4. Stewie2k 5. nitr0 6. All GenG 1000000000. Every CIS player ever
2020-06-18 17:27
i don't think stewie will be there if you think about him not making an apperience last year where they did really good, but now they are sucking and he is definetly not gonna be here on this top 20 if you ask me not sure about niko nr. 2 not that he can't be nr.2 cause ofc he can but i'm just not sure about it. boombl4 is a good pick. don't think dupreeh will make the top 10 unless astralis start winning a bunch of tournaments after the summer break. do you really think syrson is gonna make the list? maybe he will i just don't know
2020-06-20 11:01
I think the fact that Stevie manages to play 80% of the roles on his team speaks for itself. I made a mistake, I should swap Dupreeh and magisk. I am assuming Astralis gets back in shape by the end of the year. I think syrsoN is a good player. BIG has been playing good and syrsoN has been best.
2020-06-20 12:39
don't think magisk will be that high either but your guess im not saying i don't think stewie deserves it because he does. I'm just pretty sure he isn't gonna get a spot in the top 20 havent been watching a lot of Big so i wouldnt know but if you say he is the best player i believe you
2020-06-21 18:04
syrsoN and tabseN would be about equal imo, but syrsoN is better right now. Another thing that I should say, this isn’t much of a prediction, it is more so my opinion of who will be the best by the end of 2020.
2020-06-22 11:23
fair
2020-06-22 12:44
Liquid>NaVi
2020-06-20 05:28
My phone got the Rona now... Thx newfaq
2020-06-20 05:53
What??? It’s a link to help you
2020-06-20 05:55
Beep beep beep, thats my phone in a respirator! WTF man dont step in it!
2020-06-20 05:57
Dont you double-rona my phone dude!
2020-06-20 06:00
It seems the website will be of help after all.
2020-06-20 06:03
I do not Think so
2020-06-20 06:20
i think it will, using hltv since 2006 and being retarded is hard... hope you get better
2020-06-20 10:42
14 years
2020-06-20 12:32
hes 14 years old thats why
2020-06-20 13:07
U must be fakeflaggin With English like that.. And “hes 14 y/o” was your best insult..... jesus kid, uphill struggle huh
2020-06-20 13:10
ahaha youre jelous of my country too now, get a brain surgery
2020-06-20 13:12
Im danish...... Sol no. And ser u dyslexic by any chance?
2020-06-20 13:14
"Sol no"? first sign of brain damage. "ser u dyslexic" ? second sign of brain damage. "U must be fakeflaggin With English like that" third sign of brain damage. "Liquid>NaVi"? fourth sign of brain damage. You must be fake flagging thought denmark didnt have many autistic kids (
2020-06-20 13:25
that looks like the attempt of a 12 y/o trying to make a comeback... you dont know what braindamage, or autism is :( sorry to dissapoint but i have neither ;)
2020-06-20 13:57
Can you please speak english? International language at the end of the day. Brain damage is an injury that causes the destruction or deterioration of brain cells. This is what you have... i recommend visiting a doctor asap
2020-06-20 14:01
Sorry can you repeat that? I’m sorry my English is not very good so I can’t understand. :/
2020-06-21 04:13
Nexa better
2020-06-20 10:52
if this is your argument in determing who to choose , my flair will help you
2020-06-20 15:24
tabseN = syrsoN
2020-06-21 04:16
0/8
2020-06-18 17:08
Cool song 😎👍
2020-06-20 10:35
This will be the National anthem of my country by 2021. help me pls
2020-06-20 12:34
#5
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Chile esanchez47
Three names that are making sound so far: blameF, HEN1, nawwk They could enter in some point...
2020-06-18 17:09
nawwk omegalul
2020-06-18 17:10
he's starting to play decent even if i'm a nip fan
2020-06-29 04:46
I agree but I’m not so sure about them on LAN
2020-06-18 17:11
#82
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Chile esanchez47
Yeah there we will see if they're up to the challenge..
2020-06-18 18:42
They still are rising, so hopefully by then they will be better and capable on LAN.
2020-06-19 03:37
No coldzera,rain and NAF axaxa S1mple #1 axaxa BoombI4,mir and Stewie2K in top20 axaxa
2020-06-18 17:11
I have said this many times, I should have put Cold in the honorable mentions. He was really good but he is in decline and by the end of the year, I can’t say for certain if he would make it. Rain is decent but not top 20. NAF isn’t there because I don’t think he is good enough. The only reason he makes the other lists is because he plays NA. If he played EU he wouldn’t make top 20 at all, also HLTV for some reason really loves american players. s1mple is no.1 because he is the best player, that’s not really debatable, the only person who comes near him is NiKo and sometimes ZywOo, but ZywOo is too flukey and plays very inconsistently. boombl4 made the list because he is both “igl” and can frag very well. I don’t know why but HLTV really doesn’t treat him right. He consistently can frag while igling. mir is there because he is just really good. If you watch him play, he does better than most tier 1 players, he is rated much higher than NAF according to rating 2.0 while also playing CIS/EU, which means he is very good. I was actually thinking of putting him higher. For Stewie, it’s just that he is the backbone of liquid. They may not be that great, but without Stewie playing most of the roles, I doubt they would make top 30. As a note, I wouldn’t call this much of a prediction. It’s more of who I think is the most skilled. If I were to do a prediction I would put only NA players and no CIS players. Because HLTV loves NA but hates CIS for some reason.
2020-06-19 03:51
Bro, Cold is top 10 for sure are u kidding
2020-06-20 05:25
Lol no
2020-06-20 05:28
literally he is, just look best players in last 6 months lol
2020-06-20 05:30
Top 20 ok Too 10 no Way
2020-06-20 05:31
he is 9 in best of last 6 months (this year) and guess what? if FaZe continues to improve he will bee even higher
2020-06-20 05:32
But they aren’t improving much, also cold is very inconsistent.
2020-06-20 05:51
are u watching their games? they are improving a lot, and Cold its an anchor
2020-06-20 05:52
I think he just lacks consistency and hasn’t been playing as good as he once did.
2020-06-20 05:54
yes because once he was best player in the world, but still deliverying for top 10 in my opinion
2020-06-20 05:55
If he is consistent enough by the end of the year he could be top 15-10
2020-06-20 05:58
tldr
2020-06-29 04:46
ikr
2020-06-30 05:35
omg papatriceps flair
2020-06-30 15:10
pasha best player 2020 ;)
2020-07-05 02:46
yes
2020-07-05 07:09
biggest biceps shared with dosia
2020-07-06 09:53
#12
TACO | 
Brazil SUVACO
broky 12 , but no coldzera?
2020-06-18 17:11
coldzera hasn’t played great this year, he still is a contender though
2020-06-18 17:14
#19
TACO | 
Brazil SUVACO
still better then broky anyway hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01..
2020-06-18 17:15
Idk. I think broky has been playing better, as well as how cold has been in decline
2020-06-18 17:16
you put boombl4 in there, you put brehze in honorable mentions but no coldzera? lmao bad top 20
2020-06-18 17:34
Coldzera would maybe make top 20 now, but he is in decline and by the end of the year idk. He could comeback though, that’s a possibility. Also, boombl4 is really underrrated imo and can frag as well as “igl”
2020-06-18 17:36
bro i think its just better to tell i forgot to put him in
2020-06-18 17:36
Yes, he would be an honorable mention
2020-06-18 17:38
You forgot lol. You put a guy with a declining rating and an overall rating of 1.01 in 2020 over Coldzera who will almost definitely have a higher rating.
2020-06-19 05:38
Who?
2020-06-19 11:02
boombl4 who else he has an average of a 1.01 this year and in the past 3 months it is 0.95
2020-06-19 11:23
Idk why. I just think he plays good?
2020-06-20 05:49
Statistically you are wrong and by the eye test it seems you are also a bit delusional no offence.
2020-06-20 09:02
Probably a bit. I have watched them both play and have decided that cold isn’t as good as boombl4. Idk
2020-06-20 12:33
dupreeh 7? are u on crack
2020-06-18 17:11
He’s the best of what’s left of Astralis. He’s in contention for best rifler with electronic
2020-06-18 17:15
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7398/dupr.. he was 16 in 2019 with 1.12 rating he has 1.08 rating +less trophies +his team sucks no way he is top 20
2020-06-18 17:45
He’s just a very good rifles. My opinion.
2020-06-18 17:46
magisk >>>> dupreeh in every way also hunter > kenny, not bad at all bro))
2020-06-18 17:50
You know what. Maybe
2020-06-18 17:54
What? Magisk?
2020-06-20 05:29
Magisk too, I would probably swap them around.
2020-06-20 05:53
mir ,syrson stewie ,broky and boombl4 too high kennys , brollan flusha ,dupreeh need to be lower a bit imo
2020-06-18 17:13
#20
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Latvia Mikeeeey
KennyS 8th is ok maybe 11-8
2020-06-18 17:15
I think those players are just underrated
2020-06-18 17:17
yes , they actually can develop in the end of the year . and they need to win tournaments also
2020-06-18 17:19
Exactly, I think by the end of the year they could be amazing
2020-06-18 17:19
s1mple NiKo Zywoo EliGE Device or huNter- rest idk
2020-06-18 17:17
4/8 ok but hunter too high, same with elige
2020-06-18 17:30
Elige smurfing in NA and was #4 last year he's 100% top 5
2020-06-19 03:55
Yes, he is kind of smurfing, which gets him lower on the list. He only does well against NA teams and wouldn’t hold up in EU, also, HLTV has an American bias most times even if they don’t play well, so he would maybe make the list, but skill-wise he is not top 5.
2020-06-19 04:01
"won't hold up against EU" even though he absolutely held up against EU all of last year which is why he was too 4
2020-06-19 04:07
Liquid is losing to envy and MiBR. In EU they would die.
2020-06-19 04:09
Look at elige's numbers and tell me it's his fault.
2020-06-19 04:59
It’s not his fault, but it shows that he wouldn’t be as good in EU.
2020-06-19 11:03
smurfing on na is the reason hell barely be top 10
2020-06-19 17:48
dev1ce fan talking
2020-06-19 20:04
device is smurfing on na? device isnt top 5? what world are you living in? :D
2020-06-19 20:10
Tabsen??
2020-06-18 17:20
syrsoN is better imo. Tabsen is a possibility though
2020-06-18 17:30
ZYWOO 4 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-06-18 17:31
what????
2020-06-18 17:32
is he too high?
2020-06-18 17:32
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2015-01-01&endDate=2015-12-31&rankingFilter=Top10
2020-06-18 17:38
??? Reply needs to have actual content
2020-06-18 17:38
GuardiaN no.1 flamie no.5
2020-06-18 17:39
0/8
2020-06-18 17:39
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01-01&endDate=2018-12-31&rankingFilter=Top10 s1mple no.1, where zywoo?
2020-06-18 17:41
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=all&rankingFilter=Top10 Here’s all time. No cherrypicking.
2020-06-18 17:44
you are bastard
2020-06-18 17:45
elaborate
2020-06-18 17:45
google translator used on huh?
2020-06-18 17:46
no
2020-06-18 17:54
What a shit list
2020-06-18 17:37
+1
2020-06-18 17:38
elaborate. Is there not enough Brazil?
2020-06-18 17:40
No it's Just a shit list i don't care if have brazilians or no
2020-06-20 15:29
Why is it so bad?
2020-06-21 04:16
No sense... You Just criate a random list to put s1mple in #1
2020-06-22 16:02
I don’t. This is my honest opinion of who will be the best. I wouldn’t mind there being a better player than s1mple, it’s just that the player ACTUALLY HAS TO BE BETTER than s1mple to call them better. You can’t just say someone else is better just because you not like s1mple or you want change.
2020-06-26 05:42
Still no sense
2020-06-26 18:14
pls have english lesson
2020-06-29 03:10
What's wrong? You don't have arguments and you need to say that
2020-06-29 21:28
s1mple is the best. is this understand?
2020-06-30 05:40
That's what i was talking abt you Just created the list do put simple in #1
2020-07-07 01:41
No. I created the list to show my honest personal opinion, s1mple being no.1 is just my opinion.
2020-07-08 14:11
lmao are you high wtf is this list
2020-06-18 17:40
My opinion. Not that much of a prediction
2020-06-18 17:42
#64
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Turkey erasmusguy
s1mple zywoo niko elige&hunter&device elige&hunter&device top 5 is like that now also there is no way electronic ropz Dupreeh KennyS and Brollan above hunter
2020-06-18 17:51
Device will suffer from Astralis skipping lots of events
2020-06-18 17:54
+1
2020-06-18 17:59
Elite eh
2020-06-18 18:05
Idk about elige
2020-06-18 18:01
#66
kNgV- | 
Brazil wLnnn
broky playing better cold? LMAO
2020-06-18 17:54
By the end of the year, probably
2020-06-18 17:59
#74
kNgV- | 
Brazil wLnnn
I believe that it will improve a lot until the end of the year (as well as bymas), but I believe that cold will also evolve its game, as it has been doing since its debut in the season, for this reason I find it difficult to surpass it in performance
2020-06-18 18:01
I’m not sure. Cold has been declining for the past couple years and broky is a rising talent. If cold steps up his game though, he is a big contender.
2020-06-18 18:03
#76
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Europe AllowItFam
what a trash list
2020-06-18 18:02
elaborate
2020-06-18 18:03
#80
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Europe AllowItFam
20 - boombl4 "Note that I am doing this by skill imo" no coldzera despite u apparently doing the list on "skill" there are soo many mechanically better players by "skill" instead of boombl4
2020-06-18 18:05
I have said this so many times, my mistake. I should have put him on honorable mentions. He would only just barely make it now, but he has started declining and by the end of the year I doubt he would make the list. If you want stats, Coldzera is rated 2.0 worse than most people on the list, and many people not on the list. But that doesn’t matter seeing as stats are really broken, it’s just that I know that all FaZe fans care about are stats. XANTARES is rated higher than Coldzera. I put boombl4 on it because he can “igl” while fragging. I think he is really under appreciated and underrated. He has also improved a lot, seeing as he is new and can outdo most tier 1 players. Just watch NaVi and you will see.
2020-06-19 03:58
1. Zywoo Just wait 2019,2020 #1 easy no rivalry
2020-06-18 18:06
name checks out
2020-06-19 03:58
#83
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Serbia TheSerb
Common man are you kidding me 1 s1mple 2 zywoo 3 dev 4 niko 5 electronic 6 elige 7 magisk 8 naf 9 ropz 10 hunter 11 kennyS 12 twistz 13 brezhe 14 brollan 15 xyp9x 16 krimz 17 woxic 18 dupreeh 19 coldzera 20 nexa
2020-06-18 18:49
Good, but I’m not sure about NAF, Twistzz or woxic. There are also some other players who deserve to be on the list, like mir.
2020-06-19 04:03
#99
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Azerbaijan Oruc24
Instead fo xyp9x, you can put players like syrson. Also, Xantares is better than nexa individually
2020-06-19 04:09
+1
2020-06-19 04:25
Xyp9x > BIG Nexa >= Xantares as a Danish Turk i gotta give it to Nexa as good a flagger but much better in game sense
2020-06-19 11:11
#130
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Azerbaijan Oruc24
Nah bro I mean like, Xyp9x is currently not playing and he will comeback after like 3 months. The current BIG looks solid and if they keep up, Tabsen Syrson and Xantares would probably be in top 20.
2020-06-19 12:51
Abartmayalım ama var bi hayalim
2020-06-19 16:33
#134
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Azerbaijan Oruc24
It is probably going to happen, mark my words
2020-06-19 16:56
Inshallah Kardesim inshallah
2020-06-19 17:43
niko #3 device #4
2020-06-19 17:49
#84
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Serbia TheSerb
Common man are you kidding me 1 s1mple 2 zywoo 3 dev 4 niko 5 electronic 6 elige 7 magisk 8 naf 9 ropz 10 hunter 11 kennyS 12 twistz 13 brezhe 14 brollan 15 xyp9x 16 krimz 17 woxic 18 tabsen 19 coldzera 20 xantares
2020-06-18 18:50
As I said before
2020-06-19 04:24
yuurih? so underrated
2020-06-19 03:38
Not really, I was thinking of putting him on the list but KSCERATO is better imo. I tried to limit NA players because they have an unfair advantage, as there is less competition so it’s easier.
2020-06-19 04:04
no Jks? whack
2020-06-19 03:40
He just isn’t that good. In EU he would be much worse.
2020-06-19 04:06
he got 15 in LAN last year, and his stats are boosted in NA, ur point is invalid
2020-06-19 04:15
Yes, his stats are boosted, which means he isn’t that good.
2020-06-19 04:16
delusional
2020-06-19 04:36
yes your are
2020-06-19 11:04
worst prediction that ive ever seen
2020-06-19 04:12
explain. Not enough Brazil?
2020-06-19 04:14
#108
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Netherlands dabadpad
bymas top 1
2020-06-19 04:41
+1
2020-06-19 11:03
flopgod if he progresses, could be big for c9 if they can continue. c9 and flop looking on the rise rn could be a 19-20 rn as he takes a dumpy on liquid and all of NA, but need to see him vs EU like the ATK EPL run he looked solid
2020-06-19 05:28
#114
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Europe Weslleyy5
C9 aren't doing too good on Lan, I personally don't think they will get to many lans to be honest
2020-06-19 05:41
yeah ik, but i can hope :D
2020-06-19 22:15
BnTeT possibly top 20 in the end of the year
2020-06-19 05:37
#113
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Europe Weslleyy5
S1mple Niko Zywoo Elige Electronic Device KennyS Ropz Hunter Kscerato Brollan Coldzera Brehze Magisk Naf Cerq Krimz Twistzz BlameF Koosta
2020-06-19 05:39
HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHHAHA what a fkn joke
2020-06-19 11:08
#143
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Europe Weslleyy5
It’s all well and good saying it’s a joke, but what was wrong with it?
2020-06-19 18:40
Device number 6th, you high? No Xyp nor Dupreeh? Hunter Kscerato Cold Kenny to high Twistzz BlameF Koosta shouldn't even be on the list
2020-06-19 19:35
#151
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Europe Weslleyy5
If the current date was 31st December 2020 the list would be bad, but the point is, it is a PREDICTION. I am PREDICTING the top 20 from what I think is going to happen throughout the rest of the year. I could go look at statistics for the year, and make a rough estimate for what the top 20 would be if it was announced today, but it isn't announced today is it? There is still 50% of the year left and the return to LAN play and a Major. Your prediction is that device shouldn't be number 6. Your prediction is Xyp and Dupreeh should be in the top 20. Your prediction is that Hunter, Kscerato, Cold and Kenny are too high. Your prediction that Twistzz, BlameF and Koosta shouldn't be on the list. PREDICTIONS are based off of current statistics and your opinion for what is going to happen in the future. You do not know exactly what the top 20 is going to look like at the start of 2021, so you shouldn't act as if you do.
2020-06-20 05:22
#115
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Brazil hugoooo
hahaha what a terrible ranking
2020-06-19 05:43
nexa > stewie and boombl4 but decent list regardless
2020-06-19 05:43
+1
2020-06-20 10:53
Stewie2k and boomblyat OMEGALUL
2020-06-19 11:04
#361
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Sweden Fizze
Boomblyat hahahah
2020-07-05 09:42
mir top 1
2020-06-19 11:05
hmmmmm
2020-06-20 05:55
#123
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
ZywOo top4?? Nah, 1 or 2.
2020-06-19 11:06
#128
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Netherlands dabadpad
not gonna happen with toxic apex
2020-06-19 11:37
#127
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Argentina XaiDN
Top 8 BROLLAN MARK MY FUCKING WORDS
2020-06-19 11:23
What?
2020-06-20 05:55
Nıko top2 LOOOOL
2020-06-19 11:41
typical navi fan,hunter- only 10 he deserves min 7 place
2020-06-19 12:53
wrote a guy with a fucking serbish flag and hunter flair.... the irony has actually made my day.
2020-06-19 17:51
They just lost to NaVi?
2020-06-20 05:56
#132
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Germany Constikdw
1. S1mple 2. Zywoo 3. NiKo 4. Device 5. Elige 6. Hunter 7. Electronic 8. NAF 9. KennyS 10. TabseN 11. KSCERATO 12. Magisk 13. Ropz 14. Brollan 15. Plopski 16. Syrson 17. Coldzera 18. Broky 19. Bubzkji 20. Krimz Honourable mentions: Dupreeh, HEN1, Twistzz, Frozen, Flusha, nexa, sjuush, acoR, yuurih But honestly it’s very difficult to predict with this long season of online and separation of NA and EU
2020-06-19 13:04
3/8 good but just seems wrong a bit
2020-06-20 05:56
#211
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Germany Constikdw
Yeah as I said it’s very hard to predict with all this online stuff going on. We don’t know how highly it will be rated, as some of the online tournaments (e. g. Dreamhack) might not even get MVPs.
2020-06-20 13:23
Yeah, everything is really messed up rn.
2020-06-21 04:14
Stewie xDD
2020-06-19 17:48
#141
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Lithuania Edze
List is pretty good, but I would do: -stew +frozen -boombl4 +BlameF
2020-06-19 17:50
I counted igling as skill, don’t know if it counts but it does imo.
2020-06-20 05:57
imagine pronouncing top 20 2020
2020-06-19 18:42
I ate a tremendous bait hahahahaha
2020-06-19 19:40
Not bait
2020-06-20 05:57
Hen1 will be in the top 20
2020-06-19 22:17
K-D last 12 months s1mple 1.39 ZywOo 1.32 device 1.26 xsepower 1.26 ropz 1.25 KSCERATO 1.24 syrsoN 1.22 Jame 1.21 acoR 1.18 EliGE 1.17 kennyS 1.15 coldzera 1.14 electronic 1.14 huNter 1.14 woxic 1.14 Xyp9x 1.13 NiKo 1.13 Brehze 1.13 frozen 1.13 Magisk 1.12
2020-06-20 05:40
1. K/D favors AWPers just look at that list. 2. 2020 not 19/20
2020-06-29 05:18
#163
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United States YEP_COCK
get device out of there LMAO
2020-06-20 05:42
#226
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United States YEP_COCK
flag checks out
2020-06-20 19:54
flag checks out to saying flag checks out
2020-06-21 04:19
#245
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United States YEP_COCK
flag checks out to saying flag checks out to saying flag checks out
2020-06-21 04:54
name checks out to flag
2020-06-21 04:56
This guy really just put one of the worst igls in a top 20 list, nice one.
2020-06-20 06:04
yes. I know it was a mistake putting liquid players on the list, I will fix this.
2020-06-21 04:19
No trk = shit
2020-06-20 06:05
Who is trk.
2020-06-26 06:13
20. People 19. Seriously 18. Need 17. To 16. Stop 15. Trying 14. to 13. predict 12. the 11. HLTV 10. Top 20 9. Players 8. Of 7. 2019 6. And 5. Just 4. Let 3. It 2. Happen 1. trk
2020-06-20 06:06
It’s not as much of a prediction as much as it is my opinion of who will be the best players.
2020-06-21 04:20
It's pretty easy to predict the 2019 list since it's already out.
2020-06-21 05:29
Boombla in top 20 XD Mir with no achievements Stewie above Kscerato ..... Dupreeh over Magisk ? ok Ropz #6 ?? and ofc Hunter must be above Kenny
2020-06-20 10:39
Looking at it now most of these things are just mistakes I made, this is good advice. Except for mir and booml4, they are good. Amir has been playing really good (if he remains consistent on LAN) and boombl4 can be really good.
2020-06-21 04:22
Hahahahaha nice joke
2020-06-20 12:34
shit list
2020-06-20 14:00
this is mine: 1. s1mple - he is an awper so he will always have better stats than the rest. He has also won Katowice and has carried his team to the no. 1 spot on the hltv rankings 2. NiKo - So far this year has been great for him but I don't see him getting past s1mple as long as he is still an igl. 3. ZyWoo - His stats weren't as impresive as last year. It is clear that apEX's igl-ing ability doesn't focus on making ZyWoo the best, it's more of a unit and that was seen in his stats. 4. huNter- This will be the biggest surprise for everyone, but not for me. He has been playing so great and he together with kennys are the reason for g2's consistency in 2020 imo. 5. device - just a bold prediction. Astralis hasn't been great this year and I don't see them winning another event this year unless gla1ve and xyp9x come back. 6. EliGE - NA's hope, He is the only person from Liquid which kept the form in the worst moments for the team this year. 7. electronic - he is the one who completes probably the best duo in the world. He hasn't looked bad and he has stepped up many times when Na'Vi needed him. Also, hands down the best Inferno pit player right now. 8. kennyS - idk 9. KSCERATO - another bold prediction. I feel like this will happen JUST if FURIA will continue to play strong after LAN comes back. 10. Brollan - his best year so far grabbing the MVP award for ESL Pro League season 11. The krieg meta definetly boosted his stats but surprisingly he is still fragging out of his mind even after the nerf. 11. ropz - mouse hasn't been playing that well this year but he always was fragging. I would call him the European EliGE 12. broky - The best clutcher of 2020 so far and the fact that he is an awper might boost his stats enough to get the 12th spot. 13. KRIMZ - One of the most consistent players in the history of the game together with device and s1mple. even tough he hasn't been as insane as them he still has done a lot and I think that he is the most underrated player ever. 14. Coldzera - FaZe has been the best team this year imo and him together with NiKo and broky have been putting insane performances to make that happen. I honestly see him back in the top20. 15. mir - with online being a thing for so long we will 100% see somebody like mir make the list. Maybe not on 15th but he will be somewhere there. 16. Magisk - as I said before, Astralis hasn't been playing at the level that they did in the past 3 years but he hasn't been bad stats-wise. I think he goes on the same category with KRIMZ as underrated. Many people who look at astralis' succes they think about device, gla1ve and dupreeh. 17. NAF - Last year was probably the best year of his whole career but unfortunetly for him he wasn't able to repeat the succes. Many times he was lackluster and he didn't reach the expectations of everybody. 18. yuurih - another bold prediction. It all depend if FURIA keep up the form and prove to us that they are not onliners ( which I think they are not ) and prove again on LAN. 19. frozen - his stats are ok, he is usually the one that helps ropz carry mouse but he doesn't turn up as often as the estonian. 20. nexa - one of the best fragging IGL out there. I will not be surprised if he doesn't make the list because sometimes he had some very bad games which could affect his stats. Honorable mentions: HEN1, allu, tabseN (just one good event isn't enough), dupreeh, Twistzz, Plopski ( I wanted to include him as well but he doesn't have games in advanced stages of big tournaments, and we all know that those matter the most as somebody, I can't remember who from HLTV said it)
2020-06-20 14:35
Very good. Thank you for actually making effort to correct me and not just saying that it’s bad. A couple criticisms 1. Switch around electronic and huNter- . It’s just mainly the fact that electronic has been playing a bit better than hunter lately, though hunter still deserves to be in top 10. 2. Do the same for ropz and elige. ropz has shown that he is one of the last hopes for mouz. elige is good but liquid has been playing very badly recently, and elige has also been slightly worse. 3. Remove NAF and move everybody below him upwards, replace 20 with dupreeh, tabsen or allu. Last year was a bit of a fluke for him, and liquid isn’t performing as well anymore. I also don’t put many American players on as the standards in NA aren’t as good as EU.
2020-06-21 04:31
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. NiKo 4. device 5. huNter 6. electronic 7. ropz 8. KSCERATO 9. EliGE 10. kennyS 11. Magisk 12. broky 13. coldzera 14. Brollan 15. KRiMZ 16. yuurih 17. NAF 18. tabseN 19. Plopski 20. syrsoN -------------------- 21. mir 22. blameF 23. acoR 24. nexa 25. Bubzkji 26. dupreeh 27. allu 28. jks 29. nawwk 30. HEN1
2020-06-20 14:45
8/8
2020-06-21 04:33
Amazing list. Only one problem I see. Maybe switching NAF and mir around. mir has been playing amazing, if he can replicate this on LAN he will be very good. NAF and liquid haven’t been meeting expectations this year, and particularly for NAF last year was probably his highlight.
2020-06-21 04:34
Not that bad list
2020-06-21 22:46
Awesome list Elec 5, hunter 6 Mir top 20
2020-06-29 04:56
1) S1mple 2) KSCERATO 3) Syrson (a new face in cs elite players list) 4) zywoo 5) hunter 6) Niko 7) NAF
2020-06-20 14:48
Ok, bit too much NA though. Standards are lower there. Also where electronic?
2020-06-21 05:03
Personally i think yuurih is better than kscerato, but i respect your list pretty solid
2020-06-20 15:30
#222
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Brazil zeolini
kscerato should be way higher
2020-06-20 15:31
He plays NA so the standards are much lower than EU, it penalizes him a bit.
2020-06-21 04:35
#223
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CIS ObitoP2
1) s1mple 2)electronick 3)ZyWOo 4)dev1ce 5)Niko
2020-06-20 15:32
This is ok. I would swap niko with device or zywoo though.
2020-06-21 04:36
Zywoo is #1 by far
2020-06-21 04:33
not really, s1mple is playing much better recently, so is niko.
2020-06-21 05:04
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/11893/Zyw.. Also, stats don’t matter. Zywoo plays worse than s1mple or NiKo. People always flam(I)e (hehe) s1mple for baiting, zywoo might as well quit cs and become a professional fisherman.
2020-06-22 11:18
stewie kkkkkk
2020-06-21 04:39
Liechtenstein?
2020-06-26 06:18
best country in the world
2020-06-26 13:59
Ukraine best
2020-06-29 03:10
No Ukraine best yes
2020-06-29 04:05
yesn’t
2020-06-29 04:09
Are you Chinese?
2020-06-29 04:11
Liechtensteiner
2020-06-29 04:32
Bro what're you smoking cuz I need some of that. YOU PUT ELIGE AT 11 AND MIR AT 13 LMAOOOO THERES NO WAY MIR EVEN MAKES THE LIST AND HOW IS ZYWOO AT 4
2020-06-21 22:49
The amount of times I have said this is shocking. NA has lower standards than EU. Also rn ratings are Elige: 1.19 mir: 1.23
2020-06-22 11:37
individual talent isn't everything pal, kaze and sh1ro had amazing stats and sh1ro's team even made it into the rankings last year but didn't win anything bc their team didn't win anything. no way mir is ranked anything above 15 unless team spirit win a big event. and elige has an impact rating of 1.31 which wouldn't put him anything lower than 7. nt
2020-06-22 23:58
I am relying on the fact that I’m pretty sure Spirit will definitely be able to win a big event. They are just really good. I also don’t think liquid will do much this year. Most teams have had bad runs but liquid, along with astralis have been the worst. I know it’s online, but if you’re trying to say liquid will do better than spirit this year, I think not. LAN may change things though.
2020-06-26 05:45
You mean zywoo higher or lower?
2020-06-29 04:08
zywoo is top 3 and that's not debatable
2020-06-29 05:10
Ok the way you said it i thought you mean he is lower
2020-06-29 05:12
no its just he put niko at 2 which makes absolutely no sense. device zywoo and s1mple are kind of a toss up for 1 2 and 3
2020-06-29 06:10
#268
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
mir and syrson are onliners and boombi4 will never be 20th but in all 6/8
2020-06-26 05:46
I know they’re onliners but I feel like they will transfer well to LAN.
2020-06-26 06:14
#273
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
mby
2020-06-26 07:02
Also, are you an actual Og fan?
2020-06-26 07:03
#275
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
yes
2020-06-26 07:04
wow. I don’t see og fans very often
2020-06-29 03:07
#314
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
:( well yeah
2020-06-29 11:02
I think it’s that they are very broad, so no one specific group of people likes them
2020-06-30 05:37
What about eg fans? lul
2020-07-05 03:15
My top 20 1. Simple 2. Zywoo 3. Niko 4. Device 5. Hunter 6. Electronic 7. ELIGE 8. Ropz 9. KSCERATO 10, KennyS 11. Magisk 12. Coldzera 13. Broky 14, Krimz 15. Nexa 16. Brollan 17. Tabsen 18. Syrson 19. BlameF 20. NAF
2020-06-26 06:08
I like it but 19 and 20 don’t really deserve the list. They haven’t played great (maybe BlameF has) and NA just has lower standards.
2020-06-29 03:09
Blamef basically carries his team. Could miss top-20 cos of early elimination from many tournaments + cos he'll likely skip the major but not cos he "hasn't played great"
2020-06-29 04:13
he has the Saale issue that may be with mir, nit qualified
2020-06-29 04:14
what's the saale issue?
2020-06-29 13:04
same, typo. Also nit is not
2020-06-30 05:39
1. Zywoo 2. Niko 3. S1mple 4. Electronic 5 Device Ez
2020-06-26 14:03
wth s1mple 3
2020-06-29 04:14
Simple 2 Niko 3
2020-06-29 11:09
I’d say s1mple should be no.1, but zywoo could be no.2 yes.
2020-06-30 05:38
Sorry to break it to you Zywoo is better
2020-06-30 08:34
I’m sorry to break it to you you’re wrong
2020-07-05 02:44
Deluded simple fanboy doesn't have any facts
2020-07-05 05:11
neither do you 0/8
2020-07-06 09:50
Check stats Zywoo better
2020-07-06 10:10
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. Stats aren’t everything hltv bias
2020-07-06 10:36
Dupreeh 7th? Devve 3rd? Dafuq...
2020-06-26 14:05
I put dev on 3 because there wasn’t anyone else who fits there. Dupreeh is too high yes.
2020-06-29 03:08
1. s1mple/zywoo 2. s1mple/zywoo 3. niko
2020-06-29 07:00
zywoo doesn’t feel right though. Maybe by the end of the year yes, but not yet, I can’t predict if he will do it.
2020-06-30 05:36
stats don't lie.
2020-06-30 10:56
I know they don’t lie s1mple’s stats are better :/
2020-07-05 02:46
wtf has stewie2k done this yr
2020-06-29 03:10
carried his team
2020-06-29 04:15
#286
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Russia btt1
1 good 2 overrated 3 overrated 4 underrated 5 overrated 6 overrated 7 overrated 8 overrated 9 overrated 10 overrated 11 underrated 12 overrated 13 overrated 14 overrated 15 good 16 underrated 17 overrated 18 good 19 underrated 20 overrated nexa - top 26 allu - top 17 brehze - top 19 bubzkji - top 29
2020-06-29 03:22
hehe
2020-06-29 04:13
Stopped reading at 1. p0mple
2020-06-29 04:10
flair and flag
2020-06-29 04:12
Because ZywOo will be top 1
2020-06-29 04:42
0/8
2020-07-05 03:08
You'll see
2020-07-05 04:30
it’s hltv so maybe he will. hltv, zywoo and all of na are in a threesome
2020-07-06 09:50
Haha malding
2020-07-06 10:03
baguette head
2020-07-06 10:33
karrigan krystal top 2 for sure
2020-06-29 04:38
#310
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South Africa @FyreCS
garbage bait list, having Broky and Boombl4 in top 20 lmfao Elige will be top 5 again first of all, Kscerato higher up maybe, Mir hasn't won an event yet, just high stats, so can't be on list, etc.
2020-06-29 06:13
American yes? Calling CIS players trash and saying there needs to be more na.
2020-07-05 03:08
#387
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South Africa @FyreCS
Pick one: > calling CIS trash > needs more NA I never said either of those XD
2020-07-06 19:56
What you said: Broky (cis player) shouldn’t be on the list. Boombl4 (cis player) shouldn’t be on the list. Elige (na player) should be higher on the list. Kscerato (na player) could maybe be higher on the list. Mir (cis player) shouldn’t be on the list. So yes, you say na should be higher while cis should be lower.
2020-07-08 14:08
#398
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South Africa @FyreCS
They haven’t won anything have they? Navi the only potential relevant team that may have top 20 players, but apparently you see teams that are t2 relevant to top 20 players with not even an online trophy win.
2020-07-19 02:54
1. S1mple 2. Zywoo 3. NiKo 4. Electronic 5. BlameF 6. Hunter 7. Elige 8. Coldzera 9. Yurih 10. Kennys 11. KSCERATO 12. Device 13. Ropz 14. Brollan 15. Plopski 16. Syrson 17. Poizon 18. Broky 19. Krimz 20. Mir
2020-06-29 07:20
decent list, I would maybe put na players lower seeing as their standards are lower tho
2020-07-05 03:07
But they got their stats vs random NA mixes
2020-07-05 09:22
yes, na is less consistent and standards are lower
2020-07-06 09:53
it's been only half a year and how the hell can Dupreeh be that high if astralis have 4 man roster right now???
2020-06-29 07:24
my mistake, dupreeh should be lower
2020-07-05 03:06
I know people will say its a meme but XANTARES has actually really good stats so far and I feel like he would deserve it just as much as other players in BIG
2020-06-29 11:14
he could but he is very much so an onliner. If he transfers to lan then maybe.
2020-07-05 03:06
Honourable mentions: nexa KEKW the best joke I've ever seen
2020-06-29 11:14
it’s just a mention...
2020-07-05 03:05
Mir? Are you sure? I'm not gonna change your decision, but this happen every year. Some "unknown" player have 1 good event and everybody thinks that he'll be in top 20 list
2020-06-29 11:15
he has continued to perform very well, if he can transfer onto lan then we will see.
2020-07-05 03:05
Hhqhahhaqgggagagagagga Russki ranking Hahahaha Delete this thread pls
2020-06-29 21:30
name checks out. is there a problem?
2020-07-05 03:04
1. Zywoo Honourable mentions: S0mple
2020-06-30 11:23
name and flair check out. I seriously don’t understand why most people on hltv prefer zywoo but everyone else prefers s1mple
2020-07-05 03:04
flair, name and grammar checks out. most people, outside and inside hltv, say that zywoo is the current best player and the best player to ever touch the game. i am sorry, it is what it is, you all russian s1mple fanboys just have to understand that the best player in the world doesn’t come from Ukrain anymore.
2020-07-05 09:30
1. Outside of hltv (from my experience) most people agree that s1mple is better. 2. People have to understand that just because they don’t like s1mple and/or Ukraine it doesn’t mean he is bad. 3. Perkelle.
2020-07-06 09:55
my top 20: 1. Xantares 2.Woxic 3.Xantares honourable mentions: s0mple and zywho
2020-07-05 02:50
flag checks out 0/8
2020-07-05 03:03
#336
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Europe koml0w
this list is really bad, how can mir be better than all these players? wtf, and why coldzera is not on the list, bombl4 ?? hunter at 10 and dupreeh at 6? there are things on that list that don't really make sense
2020-07-05 02:50
Read the replies for more depth: coldzera: overrated and in decline boombl4: underrated and can frag while igl hunter: underrated and great rifler dupreeh: my mistake, should be lower mir: amazing player with great stats
2020-07-05 03:03
#354
fnx | 
Europe koml0w
when games were still on lan, coldzera was FaZe's second / first, highest rating, and right after that Niko became the biggest ranting, but it still remains FaZe's second biggest ranting, I don't know where he is so overrated as you say, mir never showed his firepower in lan, where it really matters, pronet is what else exists in this world, bombl4 only goes well when his team is winning, and hunter i think he should be higher, he is very good and is in the "top 1" team in the world
2020-07-05 05:38
Maybe #3, but not sure At least top5 should be
2020-07-05 09:27
#363
fnx | 
Europe koml0w
there is literally no top 1 team since gla1ve and xyp9x took a break from Astralis
2020-07-05 23:06
Now I agree
2020-07-06 08:04
I do think G2 and FaZe players should be higher, them and NaVi have been all in contest for no.1, particularly G2 and NaVi
2020-07-06 09:52
#388
fnx | 
Europe koml0w
FaZe and NAVI are a little inconsistent, I think the real candidate for the top 1 is G2, which is very solid, since IEM katowice
2020-07-06 21:26
Yes, faze and navi are less consistent, but Navi recently has been topping Gw so idk, they’re both great.
2020-07-08 14:10
#350
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New Zealand rOtten_97
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. NiKo 4. dev1ce 5. electronic 6. EliGE 7. huNter 8. TabseN 9. Magisk 10. Brehze 11. Brollan 12. jks 13. BlameF 14. Kscerato 15. NAF 16. Plopski 17. SyrsoN 18. kennyS 19. XANTARES 20. yuurih
2020-07-05 04:45
ok 👌
2020-07-06 10:32
1.ZywOo 2.s1mple 3.NiKo 4.ELiGE 5.Jks 6.HuNter 7.device 8.KSCERATO 9.Ropz 10.Electronic 11.Coldzera 12.Nexa 13.Magisk 14.Brollan 15.SyrsoN 16.NAF 17.brehze 18.Plopski 19.Yuuriih 20.BlameF
2020-07-05 04:59
Man,Nexa is much good then bomble
2020-07-05 05:36
Where is GOD XIZT!?!?!
2020-07-05 09:32
0/8
2020-07-06 10:32
#360
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Greece Noocklas
top 5 will have XANTARES this year
2020-07-05 09:33
HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THAT SHİT PREDICTION SYRSON İS MAYBE THE TOP3 PLAYERS OF 2020 HE IS 14 HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA AND WHRRE IS XANTARES AND TABSEN LUL STUPİD PREDICTION
2020-07-05 09:42
flag checks out
2020-07-06 10:31
Ukranian brain... Expected
2020-07-06 10:37
#384
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Turkey TheKaiser
I mean, tbh he replied in a stupid way but Xantares will probably have a spot in Top20 this year.
2020-07-06 10:50
He might. I’m not sure as he might just be an onliner. Though yes, he is in the picture.
2020-07-08 14:03
#377
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Turkey SwenTR
That is really bad dude . I am sorry
2020-07-06 10:36
#383
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Turkey TheKaiser
Probably because this was from 1 month ago
2020-07-06 10:49
#380
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Europe Lupuu
Where is allu?????
2020-07-06 10:42
#381
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Turkey TheKaiser
Add xantares now or consequences
2020-07-06 10:48
ROPZ 6?? WTF what did he do this year.
2020-07-06 10:48
Top 5: 1. Simple 2. Zywoooooo 3. Device/niko 4. Niko/device 5.xxxgodDosia
2020-07-06 10:54
Broky and syrson should be higher imo
2020-07-06 10:58
Why would stewie be on the list when he wasn't there last year, in which they dominated half the year
2020-07-08 14:10
1. Simple 2. Xantares 3. Zywoo 4. Device 5. Niko
2020-07-08 14:17
2020 Simple 2021 Zywoo 2022 Kqly.jr 2023 (cancelled - Covid 22-23) 2024 Syrson 2025 (everybody vaccined)
2020-07-08 14:18
TYLOO
1.07
Let's Quit
7.80
PENTA
2.92
Elites
1.39
OG
1.96
Spirit
1.81
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Winning
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