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Qatar FAZE_TOP1_2020 
2020-06-23 00:39
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BRAZIL COME
2020-06-23 00:41
Funny because "people" he's referring to is Thorin, who called out fallen and posted videos and clips and said the burden of proof was on fallen and not him. So thorin can do it but not fallen.
2020-06-23 00:44
Thorin is a not a professional player lol
2020-06-23 00:45
#8
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Estonia tonyi
You see, Fallen has been sus himself before, while Thorin is just fucking brainlet
2020-06-23 00:47
#21
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Panama Bill_Bait
thorin is an edgy 37 years old tweeting crap all day long fallen is not
2020-06-23 00:54
#38
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United States ThisNephew
you're right, fallen is an edgy 35 year old tweeting his fanbase to attack chaos and furia
2020-06-23 01:01
#39
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Panama Bill_Bait
+1111
2020-06-23 01:01
#23
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Sweden sesar
he never said that it was okay for thorin to do that? what are you on about?
2020-06-23 00:55
#36
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Portugal Agricultor
thorin and fallen are both wrong, fallen should have apologized instead of blaming his english...
2020-06-23 01:00
I watched the video and there is nothing fishy about the clips on FalleN. The Chaos clips tonight on the other hand I cannot explain, I'm 100% sure they are cheating.
2020-06-23 00:45
only one of them were suspect and that alone cant be prrof
2020-06-23 00:46
#25
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Sweden sesar
thats the point. the clips on fallen were basically the same. He flicked on enemies through the wall literally 5 times in one round. That doesn't mean he is cheating, neither is chaos.
2020-06-23 00:57
there is another big difference too FalleN's plays are on LAN on the other hand chaos' aren't
2020-06-23 01:20
MLG in 2016, which was a new Organisation. I remember a clip from 2015 LAN when Virtus Pro had even a Phone plugged to one of the PCs they played on
2020-06-23 01:29
yeah i remember that phone thing and it was fishy for me too when it happened and you are right they were relatively new but they had a background from cs 1.6 i don't mean older ones never cheated or don't cheat but they tend to do it significantly lesser
2020-06-23 01:38
yes you watched old clips of a Well established player now and they don't look weird, but a NEW player's clips are weird._.XD
2020-06-23 01:00
Really not hard to rekt that kind of low IQ people, all they can do is spam without thinking even once
2020-06-23 00:46
BRAZIL COME HERE translate pls. i.gyazo.com/921cf948878d5f9704905b3a5ea0..
2020-06-23 00:46
it says "you are very nice guy boris, come to brazil and lets be friends"
2020-06-23 00:51
#75
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Spain Crusher_CS
kkkkkkkkk
2020-06-23 01:39
#19
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Portugal 34itaNz
"Go take in the ass son of a bitch. Go suck your fathers cock and put a finger in yout mother's ass" Brazilian retards
2020-06-23 00:53
ty
2020-06-23 00:59
I agree. LG/SK was getting accused of cheating for months on end and never responded, never challenged it, and only complained about it. They lose 1 match and cry.
2020-06-23 00:48
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Sweden god_sdy
They were accused because heck EVERYONE was being accused back then. 2015/2016 really felt the aftermath of the VAC ban scandal with KQLY, SF among others.
2020-06-23 00:51
Everyone? There was flusha, shox, and then the entirety of LG/SK. That was it.
2020-06-23 00:52
#20
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Sweden god_sdy
Uhm no, there were clips of several hundreds of players. Like XANTARES was being accused, basically entire Space Soliders roster, VP were being accused, the frenchies for sure... Entire fnatic... The german guy who got caught first (smn) made a list of "potential cheaters" that included players from NiP, fnatic, VP, Titan etc that really started the shit storm.
2020-06-23 00:54
You're just wrong. 95% of forum posts I would see were always just Flusha and LG/SK.
2020-06-23 00:55
#33
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Brazil ftf123
fnatic was being really watched, i remember clips of olof jumping and killing 2 guys and people discussing if they were hacking, they were number 1 at that point.
2020-06-23 01:00
#42
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Portugal dascouves
Krimz, Bialy, xyp9x, device, these are another known ones that were accused back then. NiKo had some clips aswell, stewie2K, somehow there was even clips of xizt (LOL) konfig, xantares, kjaerbye, f0rest are another ones pretty known. HLTV was full of those clips
2020-06-23 01:02
#10
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Poland Hanse
Brasil will go REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE under this tweet
2020-06-23 00:48
can some1 give me link to these cheating clips from chaos?
2020-06-23 00:48
#12
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Sweden god_sdy
Completely moronic tweet if you ask me. FalleN was an established world player back in 1.6 that won LANs. He came into CS:GO with past accomplishments and a reputation and you think that is a good comparison between him and a 16 yo complete unknown that has no past achievements other than some FPL games and now he shits on MIBR when hes on a team that fields their coach. No one took that FalleN video seriously for a reason, because he is playing lights out on LAN. Winning 2 majors....
2020-06-23 00:49
#30
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Sweden sesar
same could be said about brollan, he came kind of out of nowhere and still rekt tier1 teams (which mibr is not). Why could he but not leaf?
2020-06-23 00:59
#47
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Sweden god_sdy
Uhm no? His reputation and breakthrough came in Gamers2 which was LAN. Through there he rose through the ranks in various T4 teams until he joined fnatic. IMO completely normal way to break into top tier scene unless you get lucky like Bymas and get offered a trial in a top team.
2020-06-23 01:10
#52
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Sweden sesar
he still played very well against bigger teams on his first matches (which most players don't). And I don't think leaf would play even close to as good as brollan against those teams. But I don't believe mibr is very close to being as strong as those teams either.
2020-06-23 01:14
#54
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Sweden god_sdy
well what I'm saying is Brollan took the natural route of spending 1 year in a lower tier building up his experience and then getting a spot in fnatic after proving himself both on LAN and online in a T2/T3 team. Chances are pretty slim that you'll just go from FPL to dominating an experienced side like this. Just look at Bymas. He can have some decent games but he would surely agree that the pace in a game like this is something that takes time to adjust to. And then we're talking about EU FPL which is FAR superior to NA FPL Right now leaf just throws logic into the bin and says "heck, I'm going straight from pug FPL to dominate a top15 team, WITH MY COACH as 5th player"
2020-06-23 01:18
#58
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Sweden sesar
Bymas is facing teams such as astralis, navi, g2 etc. which I assume we can agree is way stronger teams than mibr at the moment. So it is logical that he would have a harder time against those teams than mibr. Maybe he just had an insane game, I don't know but we can't accuse him of cheating with 0 evidence.
2020-06-23 01:21
#60
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Sweden god_sdy
well the evidence is in the strange clips from the VOD. And the VOD isn't following him through the entire game so just finding 3-4 clips is quite huge. What would we find if we checked through his entire POV demo? Yeah I'm not going to overrate MIBRs current level but this lineup of MIBR is better than Chaos with their coach ANY day of the week.
2020-06-23 01:23
#63
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Sweden sesar
I would say that fnatic is better than spirit too, but yet they manage to lose 0-2(one of the maps 16-2 or something). Which I would say is a bigger upset than mibr losing to chaos with coach. These things happen, and I can't say that he isn't suspicious but we need to see what they find when investigating before we start throwing accusations left and right.
2020-06-23 01:27
#67
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Sweden god_sdy
To be fair, Sprit won CIS RtR and looked legit like a top10 team when fnatic played them. It wasn't a bigger upset in my book because fnatics form these past months have been really bad. Theres already like 5-6 suspicious clips of this kid...from 1 tournament. And that is ALL from VODs which means his POV is only watched when there is a highlight. Back when flusha were being accused there were multi POV demos that you could watch in entirity and I don't even think a single person could find more than 1 clip per game which this guy tops by some margin already. Yeah I agree with you, I'd say we keep this to pure speculation over at the forums but going all about it on Twitter like tarik and FalleN did was wrong.
2020-06-23 01:30
#70
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Sweden sesar
the last part you said was basically my point, I have 0 idea if this guy is hacking or not, but we should NOT accuse him this bad. Because if it turns out that he was legit, this will hurt him a lot.
2020-06-23 01:32
#74
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Sweden god_sdy
to be fair I think the kid is already marked for years to come. Only thing that could change it would be a decent result at a decent LAN. But this is Chaos we're talking about, doubt they would even qualify for one
2020-06-23 01:38
#66
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Sweden sesar
2020-06-23 01:30
#69
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Sweden god_sdy
well hes right, he was under fire but he proved his innocence. Something tells me this kid will be too scared to prove his.
2020-06-23 01:31
Fallen did say that he doesn't want to accuse anyone on Twitter tho
2020-06-23 00:50
Only after he got called out by RL.
2020-06-23 00:58
So? People cant be wrong in the heat of the moment, step back from it and get a new view on things?
2020-06-23 00:59
No, you really shouldn't, especially if you are a x2 major winner and know the retarded brazilian fanbase sending the players death threats and who know what else.
2020-06-23 01:05
Fallen is human after all
2020-06-23 01:57
#14
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France Lili___
another L for fallen lmao
2020-06-23 00:51
I'm amazed people are actually defending Chaos with how many fishy clips they got in a single BO3.
2020-06-23 00:57
Innocent until proven guilty
2020-06-23 00:59
That rethoric of "clips alone don't prove anything" is exactly why these guys don't even care about hiding their cheats anymore and are so blatant about it. Do you really think the cheater himself or his cheat coder will expose themselves ? cause that's the only way you're gonna have hardproof, the only other thing we have are what we see in-game.
2020-06-23 01:01
And how exactly do you prove that? Are you going to trust anticheat systems? They aren't perfect. They may never catch a good cheat.
2020-06-23 01:12
Yeah, and you think it justifies sending death threads to 16yo boy?
2020-06-23 01:36
#26
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Germany BIG2020
REKT
2020-06-23 00:57
are cheats that easy to get? like honest question. and not just any cheats ones that are non vac detected and what balls this kid must have to use them in the biggest match hes prolly ever played to this point lol
2020-06-23 00:59
yeah i even have a friend who is coding cheats
2020-06-23 01:00
german cheat coders POGGERS
2020-06-23 01:23
richard lewis and thorin ez life tho while everyone is giving their face to get the punch for years and years thorin and richard just chilling getting high and waiting for 1 moment of getting in the middle and "rEkT" someone online omggg what a badass! when I grow up want to be like them omgg!!
2020-06-23 01:04
What the heck. That's a serious accusation, what's the matter with Fallen & Fer acting childish on Twitter? Way to melt your fan base after all those years 😑😑 MiBR PR team should take over player's social media or they'll fuck themselves real bad
2020-06-23 01:04
richard is so stupid, this clip dont even compare to leafs clip.
2020-06-23 01:11
OMG how dumb can this bald idiota be????? clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingShortTofuBlar..
2020-06-23 01:12
And he is still smarter than you
2020-06-23 01:36
#53
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Germany G3er
these are all different matches in different situations every single clip, the clips from leaf were all from the same match
2020-06-23 01:14
Fallen did cheat. this kid does not cheat.
2020-06-23 01:30
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