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Dev1ce is right
United States Burger_man 
Imagine some 'influencer' on twitch who most of the csgo community haven't even heard about or know of (except br fans) trying to start a witch hunt against a 16 year old. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting.
2020-06-29 04:39
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Argentina druwugs
gotta love device
2020-06-29 04:40
The only reason I am loving this guy.
2020-06-29 09:51
the only likeable player on Astralis (besides dupreeh)
2020-07-01 03:58
What you don't like Xyp? Magisk is a little arrogant. Gla1ve is arrogance it self
2020-07-01 15:27
xyp looks like he is getting special education ( thats my personal dislike), magisk is alright, glaive should recieve beating once a year to be less smug i agree on that one.
2020-07-01 15:35
Yeha Magisk is a lot better now. He matured a lot, hes pretty chill tbh. I only dislike Gla1ve
2020-07-01 15:36
i am alright / have no problem with dupreeh, and magisk , device seems really arrogant but he doesnt do anything bad so i dont care basically, xyp just looks wierd but he says like 1 word per year so you cant really dislike him and Funny how glaive stopped crying that molotovs are OP when he started to win.
2020-07-01 15:38
Gla1ve pushed to fix the molotov back when it was broken, he stopped after it was fixed... back when smokes couldn't extinguish molotovs he said to remove the molotov but stopped after the thing with smokes was added.
2020-07-02 00:14
I know but its a dumb thing to meme him on. Edit: so i obviosuly I love to do it.
2020-07-02 11:31
are you and the thread creator afraid of something? im meaning why is him protecting a supposed 'kid' from being investigated? is this the BLM effect ?
2020-06-29 11:55
France Poloqua
They are not protecting the kid of being investigated, they just ask to stop with the death threats to a 16 year old kid
2020-06-29 11:59
yes, leaf lives matter!
2020-06-29 14:52
Brazil !nStinct
Investigate? He is being investigate, the problem is the witch hunt.
2020-06-29 15:05
not talking about 'hunts', and they already burned that pc..
2020-06-29 16:17
Fakeflagger back at it again Ooga booga cry is free 7-1
2020-06-30 12:58
hah poor donkei
2020-06-30 14:39
failed? moron?
2020-06-30 14:58
2020-06-29 14:56
Brazil ftf123
imagine use nvidia bugs to win
2020-06-29 04:41
bro you just make it worst for you community by acting like this.
2020-06-29 04:51
Brazil ayrtozo
No, he just gave his opinion and criticism, why can't we say what we want? I saw no offense, and we are free
2020-06-29 05:32
Hive mind thinking doesn't show any support of critical thinking
2020-06-29 05:35
Brazil sakaaa
i do not agree with their positioning, but they are both right when it comes to opinion. you talk about hive mind ignoring the fact that two people can agree on something even upon critical thinking. as i stand, your positioning here could also be perceived as hive mind thinking. do you think you know more facts than they do? you just have a different opinion and judge them to be simpletons based on nothing.
2020-06-30 05:14
nt ftf123, reported
2020-07-02 00:56
He just said some shitty thing
2020-06-29 09:10
Its not that he cant say that, its just instead of using the thread for logical explanation and opinions he reverts to the idea of using nvdia bugs in hopes that he can “roast” dev1ce the same way which is kinda ridiculous. Plus by saying that hes defending the whole idea of witch hunting a 16 yr old kid just cause the national cs team lost....
2020-06-30 16:20
Denmark JEBO
Imagine claiming the same alligations to be true for years, yet you have no proof....nice
2020-06-29 05:54
Brazil ftf123
niko said not me, he just wake up one day and said: lets invent something about astralis kekw
2020-06-29 05:55
#2 Não Tem Como | Brazil ftf123 imagine use nvidia bugs to win 2020-06-29 04:41 yet you didnt say it, also if you have such a bad memory in brazil here is something your greatest national hero said
2020-06-29 08:20
Brazil ftf123
1 - after major win on LAN 2 - defend himself 3 - i have a problem with how cheating situations are handled since flusha days, just key-log everybody and solve the problem in major competitions online.
2020-06-29 08:36
United Kingdom galaxyv2
how would key logging help ??
2020-06-29 14:59
1- after major win online 2 - didnt say shit and still got sent death threats 3 - i have a problem with people talking shit while doing the same thing
2020-06-29 16:01
but I like to talk shit while shitting, mens(((
2020-06-30 12:14
What proofs ? Proofs don't exist in CS, pros have been shown to be cheaters and only be found after years (KQLY) or guys have been cheating at lan and only being found out because an admin physically saw them (that Indian guy). I'm not saying those allegations against leaf, or flusha, or shox, or Astralis are legit, I'm just saying that in the world where there will never be proof that a player is cheating or not, opinions have taken a spot that they shouldn't have. When is valve going to conduct serious investigations into alleged cheaters to prove that they are not cheating ?
2020-06-29 08:58
Yeha. I think this. We are cry or only search to one official judge of, BTS, valve or someone. We need one statment for this cases and how to enter with one request one inquiry. The ODDs of the game Mibr vs Chaos was one strange comportment at the last minutes and Ze PUg Godz vs Chaos too.
2020-06-29 10:20
Australia SUNSPY
Never have for sure no cheating ? wrong. The admins ability to secure the network against cheaters is so powerful you clearly have no idea and should STFU kindly. LAN is *CAPABLE* of being completely cheat free with absolutely zero doubt if security is not even overkill level, which real security IS, absolute assured amounts of redundancy and layers of it not singular vector bullshit ideas some people propose as all you need to do, like keylogging. Yes you could frame it as HA perfect but youd be a fucking moron as well, so dont get me started.
2020-06-29 16:07
Don't insult people just because you don't agree with them. Didn't mommy teach you that ?
2020-06-29 16:29
Australia SUNSPY
When the facts have been stated in a clear and easy way to understand the fundamentals involved and people keep having the same stupid argument, well like I said dont get me started. FUNDAMENTALS ARE ALWAYS THE KEY TO SOMETHING
2020-07-01 08:07
Leaf did nothing wrong
2020-07-01 15:39
2020-06-29 09:02
Your already falling IQ is showing bud
2020-06-29 09:19
Ok, when all pros got to know there is a smoke bug and everybody was using it after that. You found them guilty cuz they discovered it first ?
2020-06-29 09:54
flag absolutely checks out
2020-06-30 05:20
Imagine having bugs in your brain and no one can help :(
2020-06-30 08:50
death threat for 16 yo? expected from bra71Lian brain.
2020-06-30 12:13
ZywOo | 
Switzerland OHMOHM
2020-06-29 04:41
+1 actual good cs player who didn't fluke and fall off like Fallen
2020-06-29 04:42
2020-06-30 05:20
choquid fan mad :(
2020-06-30 16:10
2020-07-01 15:43
North America joeS
2020-07-02 03:24
2020-06-29 04:44
ofc baitv1ce say that because he and his teammates abused smoke bug for ages lmao
2020-06-29 04:47
mad cause bad go cry
2020-06-29 05:27
Lmao they aint using smoke bug. Even if they were then why doesnt washed up in brazil and twofaced use smoke bug to finally win something
2020-06-29 10:00
name and flair checks out 80 iq max
2020-06-30 05:20
80 is being extremely kind. Mental illness and from 3rd world country, feelsbadman for valorant_cs_killer
2020-06-30 13:01
true having that flair probably suggests you have a mental illness
2020-06-30 17:54
imagine not being able to TAKE A LOSS instead witchhunting a kid because he beat your bot team
2020-06-29 04:50
Brazil Zuke077
it's not because they defeated our team, we all know that mibr hasn't been playing well for a while, it's about someone using cheats and handling bets, and the whole community, with the exception of Brazilians, acting like nothing happened because "he just is 16 years old "and using a minority, less than 0.01% of the Brazilian community, who call death threads to him, there will always be someone like that, regardless of country, because when we are many, even minorities increase unfortunately
2020-06-29 07:27
using death threats to 16 yo is a serious problem dude. why do all br people solve problems with death threat? r u a murderer or what? about cheating? even hes plays isn't close as flushas.
2020-06-30 12:17
"regardless of country" xddddddddd nt br
2020-06-30 13:02
Honestly, it isn't really about losing. If it was, we would have been accusing people for ages LOL. The thing is, the clips were pretty suspicious, people jumped to conclusions, started fighting because it seems nobody in this community can actually discuss something, and everything turned out like this. I'm not even protecting or accusing anyone here. My fellow brazilians are being pretty fucking dumb and i can't deny it even if i wanted to, but all other people are acting just as dumb lol.
2020-06-30 06:10
another people start raging bcs of the death threat. the funniest part is hes just 16yo. Do u guys (most of br people) have mental problems?
2020-06-30 12:22
Honestly, brazilian people in general are really heated, especially when it comes to sports (don't know if you ever saw people fighting in football matches, but it's fairly common around here). But i think it's more because the people who actually speak up are the troll ones. In my experience, the majority of csgo fans around here are pretty chill, but that 20% of trolls really overshadow the chill ones. It's pretty fucking annoying to be labeled as a brainless troll because of them honestly, but we can't really do anything about it :/
2020-07-01 15:34
But I think most of them are play victim. Do u see the video from gaules? I found it from twitter. He said that every people in HLTV treat them like 'monkeys' idk what does he mean at that video but for me it's too much to say something like that 'treat like monkeys'.
2020-07-01 18:02
I kinda agree with you. They are playing victim, but it honestly is a little bit true. Not saying they're right, cause yeah, we are having a pretty healthy discussion and unless i missed something, you're not calling me a monkey lol, but it isn't difficult to see that people are like that a lot of times to brazilians. Probably because when SK was winning everything in 2016/2017 they were annoying af, but i honestly think that sometimes it's a little bit too much. Calling someone a "monkey" is pretty much saying the n word around here btw
2020-07-03 15:43
2020-07-01 15:43
The influencer has been a player for longer than device has, so he's already wrong to begin with. If you are gonna suck device cock at least do it when he's not bullshitting.
2020-06-29 04:51
United States Burger_man
"playing longer than device" yet no one in the cs community outside of br had even heard of him until now
2020-06-29 05:04
Brazil Zuke077
maybe you just didn't watch competitive games in 2000 - 2009. the teams didn't come up in 2015
2020-06-29 07:33
hahaha so now its OUR FAULT that we were born in the early 2000's and not in the 80-90s?
2020-06-29 14:57
2020-06-29 15:18
leaf | 
Brazil Ferba
nobody said that, dude... But you need to agree that it's ridiculous to ignore someone history just because you were not alive to see it.
2020-06-29 15:32
How are we ignoring his history? Ive never heard of this guy before.
2020-06-29 15:33
>"Ive never heard of this guy before" therefore: >"I'm not ignoring history" Great logic there dude.
2020-06-29 15:48
So your ignoring my history cause you know nothing about me. WOw stop being so fucking ignorant
2020-06-29 15:50
You just agreed with me.
2020-06-29 16:08
yeah stop being so ignorant
2020-06-29 16:09
you're a fucking idiot
2020-07-03 00:26
coming from a guy who trys to be funny with a "Jonathan E" name LuL
2020-07-03 15:44
haha you‘re actually retarded! i’m sorry for you
2020-06-30 12:29
BR logic at it's finest. No namer Guales 100 years in esport yet achieved 1/10th of what dev1ce has achieved in a year (also in a more competitive game and era) so rekt, cry is free never forget 7-1
2020-06-30 13:04
> 7-1 > Norway and his logic is bad kkkk
2020-06-30 16:16
csgo e-sports started in 2012-2013 my dude... gaules did not play csgo professionally
2020-06-30 05:03
the question is. what did he achieved from that "tournament" ? no one knows him just bcs he achieved nothing. even I just know him from now, when he twit some shits.
2020-06-30 12:30
Dude, if you played in and followed the 1.6 scene you would know that its a gross overexaggeration the Gaules was a star in 1.6. He did play on a decent team for a few years, thats it. The tournaments they won were not top tier tournaments, and their placements in the real top tournaments was 4-6th place. And Gaules was hardly the best player on that team. If you could find any people with real knowledge about the 1.6 scene, no one would put him in the top 100 players even.
2020-07-01 15:26
France Ga5huX
Because most people watch cs since 2018 ?
2020-06-30 05:17
He’s a no namer, get over yourself.
2020-06-29 05:24
I don't think a no namer can get 300k concurrent twitch viewers, bud. Cope, seethe, I don't care. The thing is that device is wrong here and that's all. Attack him over literally anything else because the dude has played the game for very long and he pulls higher viewerships than the official english streams.
2020-06-29 05:32
He is a no namer when it comes to competitive CSGO, that’s a fact. He’s old he should know better than to attack another player just because he destroyed his favorite team.
2020-06-29 05:38
How is he a no namer when it comes to competitive csgo? He has had a career in cs and even played in fucking mibr ( the legendary mibr era and not the current one that is a joke ). The guy is very well known and popular and that's how it is. He makes so much money from streaming that he is able to buy the rights to stream tournaments and he will keep doing so because it's free money for the TOs. Also I wouldn't call anyone that has played professionally an influencer if I wanted to be treated seriously. device has only proved that he is an ignorant and knows nothing about cs history. Without the "old" players the scene would be nowhere where it is currently, so he should have a little bit of respect towards any "old" player. Also what the fuck is he even talking about. What flusha did over his entire career wasn't even as suspicious as that chaos-mibr series alone, and I didn't see anyone complaining about the witch hunt back then. There's still pros that believe he cheated and will always believe it.
2020-06-29 05:51
All of that yet he is still dumber than the average hltv poster, sending his goons against a sixteen year old. How proud he and his fans must be.
2020-06-29 06:00
Brazil JKZeraCSGO
I dare you to go look for any video, tweet, message or anything that he said for PEOPLE TO GO AFTER LEAF i dare you, if you find one, i will apologise and agree with you. not once he said anything or told anyone to go after anyone, he shared his opinion, which he has the right to do so, in no moment, in Stream, off stream or wtv he called anyone to go harrass Leaf but okay man find one and i will shut up
2020-06-29 07:50
He has a massive fanbase when he acuses someone of cheating what does he expect to happen? He should know better than to start a witchhunt against a 16 year old without any proof.
2020-06-29 08:12
Does it really matter if the kid is 16 years old if what we are discusing is if he cheated or not? I mean, we are looking at what has been done, not who did it (I don't agree at all with the threats tho). And come on dude, do you really think it's not AT LEAST strange that a new player got the same amount of fishy clips in a bo3 as a old professional player in their whole career? Leaf its not like Grim, Grim has been destroying games from a long time, but leaf just came out of nowhere, played like a god against MIBR and Team One then went back to playing normaly.
2020-06-29 16:03
So you're saying he just cheated that one game against MIBR? Because....he really hates MIBR? Come on, don't you think if he cheated he would have told himself: "Wow, I better slow down a bit or it's gonna be too obvious". You think people cheat so they can get 40bombs in a single game or to win the 1 or 2 clutches they might otherwise have lost?
2020-06-29 16:55
You're discussing with delusional favela fanboys, better chance at having a proper discussion with a wall
2020-06-30 13:07
I think what Hanger08 means about him being a nonamer is that hes not really relevant for the pro cs scene as a whole. I mean if he were to never touch cs/twitter again the cs scene wouldnt change at all. Also he hasnt made a "dent" in cs history to the point where the history would be drastically different if he never played. Hes not a nonamer, but hes not relevant. Also it doesnt matter if he didnt tell his fanbase to go after leaf. Anyone with half a brain should know that if you share your opinion on a controversial topic to your fanbase, you should tell them directly NOT to go after Leaf.
2020-06-29 16:09
flusha was a major winner back then, and he still felt like shit cuz of the witchhunt which resultated in nothing for any pro.(Edit thought about quitting Low key) Many people were against the witchhunt, for example me,however I only defended flusha etc I thought fallen and shox cheated)))
2020-06-29 07:43
literally who
2020-06-29 09:56
he's an old man now, things that pro players do now that he cant do himself he consider cheats. He just hasn't realized he has old man reflexes and is not a good player anymore.
2020-06-29 05:26
fr dude when you get older you lose the hability to aimlock, only occurs when you're young just assum that you don't like brazillians, if chaos cheated against any other team that wasn't br they would have been banned already
2020-06-29 08:38
There was never any aimlock
2020-07-01 15:47
And he didn't play professionaly since what, 15 years? and never played professional in CSGO? And who even is he lmao, I would have never known him without his delusional bra71lian fan crying over a loss of their bot team
2020-06-29 07:51
Dev1ce is playing since 2009 so he played more cs competetively than Gaules. Your point is invalid lol
2020-06-29 16:04
ofc baitv1ce say that because he and his teammates abused smoke bug for ages lmao
2020-06-29 05:05
2 majors vs 4 majors + 1 IGS? OMG... calling 16 yo hacking and death threatening him? OMG... I guess bra71Lian have mental problem... now m16r r nothing. Getting fcked by lower rank team and cry. They can't move on from their era with Cold. Cold = 99% BR cs power what a weakling shit...
2020-06-30 12:40
mad cuz dev1ce -> any br player lmao
2020-06-30 13:07
if no one in the csgo community heard about this influencer why did it bother you? xddddd braindead
2020-06-29 05:11
Because this "influencer" is starting a witchhunt against a 16yo "alleged" cheater. Imagine being a teenager looking forward to a bright CS career and after a good game you start getting death threats from braindead people. Sure if he cheated and you are able to get proof go after him. Even so there is a proper way of doing things instead of giving death threats. flusha had suspect clips and if you can get proof of him cheating go after him- you'd be doing the CS community a favor. But cyberbullying is not the proper way to do things. Like everyone said, innocent until proven guilty. Until then, take the L and move on.
2020-06-29 09:15
don't act like an idiot will death threats sent by 12 year olds 7000km away affect his career? this is a case of xenophobia if it were a Brazilian, Turkish, Indian, Russian boy would not be having this mobilization to defend it
2020-06-29 15:24
Sure, I 100% agree with you on the xenophobia part. People hate a little too much on Brazilians. Memes are fine and all but it goes way beyond that. But your sentence "will death threats by 12yo 7000km away affect his career"- please read it again. Doesn't matter if a 12yo threatens him or Agent 47 himself- a death threat isn't something to take lightly considering the Major is going to be in Brazil (if COVID situation gets better). This is further tainting your reputation especially with past situations like Hiko or kNgV. As an experienced pro MAYBE it doesn't affect you as much but as a 16yo teenager who will probably qualify for the major it affects your mentality and in turn your career. Yes the clips are suspicious and maybe he was cheating being afraid of 2x Major winners on the server but its not up to you or me or Gaules or FalleN to witchhunt him. All we can do is report it to the admins and wait for their investigation.
2020-06-29 15:39
Imagine a 16 years old boy cheating against a team with players that play this game for 20 years or more to conquer a dream and some guys of other countries that did not have a life that we had protect this kind of guy based in pure xenophobia. It's very clear that leaf and xeepa cheated and this hindered mibr to get a best group to win RMR points, MIBR will get out from major and this match was essential to this happen.
2020-06-29 05:13
MIBR would not have gone to major anyway, because the team itself is now at the bottom. MIBR almost lost to Triumph, and this is not even the top 8-7 team in NA. If you really thought that MIBR in the current form would have gone to major, then you are delusional
2020-06-29 05:24
mibr would end up in 12-16 spot for sure. Actually they should be thankful to chaos since they saved themselves the embarrassment of being eliminated first in their home-town major.
2020-06-29 05:27
Yeah LUL
2020-06-29 05:28
hahahaha true
2020-06-30 13:08
MIBR got 2nd place in Blast Premier, won C9, EG and Furia, they are inconsistent, but they aren't top 8. I think they will have more chance if got a place in group B that was an easier group. But the problem isn't that, the problem is that Chaos cheated and nobody does anything, instead of that some non-brazilians players like device is protecting these guys based on bullshits.
2020-06-29 05:33
It's just was a honeymoon period after another reshuffle. It happens sometimes. Now you can see real MIBR level. They'll never be a contender team until they find new IGL and good players instead of TACO and kNgV-
2020-06-29 05:36
Yes, your argument is that we should only consider MIBR bad moments the others was "a honeymoon period". Gaules is right, all of this it's pure xenophobia, it doesn't even make sense. TACO is bad, KNG is good, you can watch he playing in PGL Krakow for Immortals.
2020-06-29 05:59
Sometimes it happens with teams. Na'Vi after signing Perfecto for example. Or Na'Vi in 2016 after reshuffle (- Zeus + s1mple) Also same with Gambit in 2018 (- fitch + seized). And that "honeymoon" period happened with MiBR after signing trk. It was two fucking years ago. Now kNgV- is bad. Then i can say that FalleN is good IGL nowadays because 3-4 years ago he won two majors.
2020-06-29 06:04
You believe that a player that plays this game for 20+ years can unlearn? I believe they could be tired, but i doubt that they unlearn. trk is not even 2 months in mibr, you are not able to say that.
2020-06-29 06:18
I didn't say that he unlearned the game or something like that. Probably he has problems with his motivation. Maybe he can't or don't want to adapt to modern CS GO. Or maybe he just want to steal paychecks and don't want to play and win.
2020-06-29 06:44
Poland Recruitn1
Unlearned sry i laughed abit
2020-06-30 08:55
Srry, English is not my best language.
2020-06-30 09:25
xenophobia😳 you’re insane!!
2020-06-30 12:31
United States Burger_man
most delusional thing I have read
2020-06-29 05:44
hey bra71l... wake up...
2020-06-30 12:42
North America joeS
LOL at you thinking Chaos have it out for BR and MIBR. You are so slow.
2020-07-02 03:26
Gaules says like that mibr are not going to attend the major because of that game, when mibr are just trapped inside 2015's meta, and insists on dumb players like kng and taco untill now. If MiBR were still playing good cs and not have the spot under risk brazilian scene would just let it go. Wardell and Subroza have a lot of more suspect games against brazilian teams and we didn't see this hype. its not about the racism and the cheating. It's about not accepting that mibr are playing like shit for years.
2020-06-29 05:19
Bruh MIBR won't attend major, because there's fucking Apocalypse in Brazil, not because, that a 16 yo player who might have or might have not cheat defeated 4 washed up players and one bot...
2020-06-29 08:38
They wont attend the major even if gets postponed or transfered to another country. My point is: they are so trash right now, that they will not be able to qualify either way.
2020-06-29 12:55
United States vs3veN
You have a point
2020-06-29 09:01
South Africa @FyreCS
Imagine MIBR still thinking they are relevant with that core lmfao. There's a reason why they haven't had success in awhile constantly changing the one person they bring in thinking it's them. Lost respect to MIBR @furia game and for not undergoing maybe roster changes. Calling out a 16 year kid for potential cheats is very sad especially from a team that accomplished a lot in the past. Leaf literally still does his fake aimlock when in spawns trying to make it look like he's locking unto their heads XD.
2020-06-29 05:23
Respect to dev1ce! An actual good player speaking up.
2020-06-29 05:25
For real <3
2020-06-29 05:27
True, even DanM > Gaules
2020-06-29 05:31
idk if this is bait but yeah Dan M is da best. without him never heard of the crisp clean lock boyz xD
2020-06-30 12:54
some people bro
2020-06-29 05:32
2020-06-29 05:35
Brazil Ruztomazi
he said all the time to not treat the guy. you didn't know, you dont know him. dont be racist (:
2020-06-29 05:35
United States Burger_man
lmao any criticism of his childish behavior is racist ofcourse
2020-06-29 05:46
Brazil Ruztomazi
where's your respect lul as you think youre evolved
2020-06-29 05:49
If you say anything against someone and they happen to be from a different country, you are racist?
2020-06-29 14:54
typical 10iq argument from a brazilian! if he said nobody should threat leaf how comes everybody cry’s like it’s a national tragedy??? you guys insult a 16 year old and the excuse is: yeah, you guys don’t respect brazil, you guys are xenophobic so delusional like most brazilians...
2020-06-30 12:34
2020-06-30 12:47
Mental illness combined with 3rd world education usually equals the typical BR behaviour you see on social media these days.
2020-06-30 13:11
2020-07-01 13:36
dude. do u want some banana? cuz I know that all bra71lian likes it. Gaules told me this.
2020-06-30 12:44
2020-06-29 05:43
Dev1ce wasn't asking to anyone to say sh*t at Gaules twitter... Even so, people did it. His page is full of racist comments in english Gaules also didn't ask for any of the "threats"... Even so, people did it. People aren't looking at the facts, are just agreeing with who they like the most
2020-06-29 05:45
United States Burger_man
Leaf Life Matters!!!
2020-06-29 07:16
gaules play victim.
2020-06-30 12:45
ofc he is from BRASIL! the friendliest and loyal people ever!!!!!!
2020-06-30 12:55
+1 Br fans are just being toxic to protect br Even though I do much agree with the allegations, when you have that much influence in a community you can't just spread something that you're not sure of, and in this case against a 16 yr old
2020-06-29 05:52
Brazil seltinn1
ofc you think that he is right you re american bro i bet 100% that if was a brazilian guy, you was already flooding that brazilian was cheating
2020-06-29 05:54
United States Burger_man
Leaf life matters!!!
2020-06-29 07:16
"Imagine some 'influencer' on twitch who most of the csgo community haven't even heard about" bro, not cuz Im brazilian, but gaules made so much more for Counter Strike than dev1ce did, REALLY, not kidding. And about the most of the csgo community haven't even heard about, Im pretty hes the number 1 csgo streamer in the world, he did like 400k last week on twitch.
2020-06-29 06:04
true, but only on brazil, gaules in unknown in the global scene, meanwhile dev is winning majors and playing in the best team of all time but the point it's not about that, it's about spreading allegations and not leaving the job of analysis for whom it may concern I do think that he was cheating as well, but what's the point of claiming that if you don't know for sure if that's true or not and you have that much influence in your national scene? Device is right in here. end of the deal.
2020-06-29 08:45
his streams are in portuguese so it completely invalidates his relevance on a global scale because only BR/PT(doubt) people tune in to his channel lol
2020-06-29 15:00
I dont even know gaules and 80% of CSGo community doesn't know him. Only braindeadsilians know him because y'all the same. The landinho of stupiderinho!
2020-06-30 08:48
Only braindeadsilians kkkkk what a disrespect, bro. How is your best player doing? is shakira doing ok?
2020-06-30 11:48
Leaf is just leafing around mibr faces, Shakira is okay but didn't hear her screaming for a very long time. Pique and no one of Barcelona can't score shit these days
2020-07-02 02:10
He is no namer globally. I know about him only because he is listed as stream on HLTV sometimes in these matches. If he was at least pro player in CSGO sure it would be understandable but he is no one. Even if leaf was cheating, calling someone out like that from someone who has a lot of people following him, especially ones with death threats being common thing is dumb.
2020-06-30 16:30
do u really know CS? do u know whats a major? kkkkkk
2020-07-01 17:41
Seems no one other than Bra71lians knows about cs
2020-07-02 02:12
2020-07-02 07:15
Sweden iNzaneX
Idk i watched the clips, seems pretty obvious that atleast leaf is cheating
2020-06-29 06:06
United States Burger_man
even if he is cheating its still disgusting to send a witch hunt and death threats to a 16 year old.
2020-06-29 06:11
I think your portuguese is really bad and you didn't understood anything Gaules had told. In no time he summoned his followers to offend and hunt the poor Chaos' kid. If there have been brazilians threatening and casting hate speech onto the poor boy, it's linked to the human being rather than to the things Gaules told. Or haven't you seen any xenophobic, racist, or sexist comments here in HLTV forums coming from "polished EU people?" All he's being very staunch about is the fact that despite leaf's plays are at very least suspicious, neither TO nor Valve issued a position about the whole situation. As an opinionator, device is a great passive sniper.
2020-07-02 02:28
why could they not just privately send a report to valve or the TO instead of making it public though?... If you argue that this option would not work than you are implying that the valve and TO are in on the hacking and allowing it?
2020-07-02 03:18
The hairiest comment about the situation that came from a MIBR member is from kngV, that had told those plays from leaf are not "normal". FalleN also ironically twitted that considered the plays as "blatant aimlocks", but shortly after apologized, claiming he had not chosen the words in english properly. I'm pretty sure that if MIBR felt injured, they turned to the TO about what happened. People like me, you, streamers and talents are free to opinate about it, either here, or on social media. I really don't think BTS and Valve are on the cheating thing and allowing it. But their silence about the controversy Chaos vs MIBR falls far short of what they could have done about the situation. What have upsetted Gaules the most was the silence of BTS and Valve and the turn of the table by part of the CS community against him and against the whole brazilian fans, just because some stupid people willingly threatened the boy. Don't be baited by the stupid self-declared reason owners from EU, who don't understand a single word in portuguese and have not even tried to listen to what the other part of the situation issued. Do you really think the 1st world reason owners have spent at least 30 minutes to try understanding what the brazilian talent, streamers and players really told about the situation? I don't think so. They barely speak their mother language, c'mon....
2020-07-02 03:58
2020-06-29 06:28
who was device when gaules was coaching an beeing a professional cs 1.6 player LOL, its crazy how people assume thing without even knowing.
2020-06-29 06:31
So because he’s old he shouldn’t be told what he did was wrong? Also device achieved more in a single year than gaules did his entire “career”.
2020-06-29 06:49
2020-06-29 08:37
To be honest if he is old he should himself understand that its not alright to witch hunt someone.
2020-06-30 16:32
United Kingdom galaxyv2
-gaules hasn't played pro cs since 2008 and has the same credibility as any other caster -device 4 time major winner most consistent player of all time top 5 since '15 people like henryg and ceh9 playing for 13, 12 years and people criticize them when they criticize pros hell even froD and rambo have 20 years of cs exp and have more csgo exp lmao
2020-06-29 15:23
So we cant call cheater a cheater if the joe is under 18?
2020-06-29 06:35
You can but it's not a reason to send death treatments. Even if he really cheated.
2020-06-29 06:46
Truth. But Gaules just said "hes a cheater", unfortunately some guys here are really dumb. Gaules said the same most part of us thought, but blame him for any badly crowd reaction is the same that blame all police instituition due some shit made by a dumb cop.
2020-06-29 06:53
oBo | 
Taiwan codv
im sure he is well aware of how his community behaves, and when you have such a large community you gotta be more careful of how you act. Not saying gaules is a bad person or anything, but he has got to act more professionally.
2020-06-29 07:25
Europe jvesper
devve most consistant to ever touch the game
2020-06-29 07:17
2020-06-29 07:18
oBo | 
Taiwan codv
so looking at ur radar is cheating now?
2020-06-29 07:26
it's nvidia cheating... I love how ppl still doesn't know how the game works
2020-06-29 08:42
United Kingdom galaxyv2
bro look at the fucking face cam he is clearly looking at the radar LOLOL
2020-06-29 15:24
bro I was just joking, I am looking at radar too, when smoke starts to wanish, because on radar you can see the player immediately
2020-06-29 15:42
United Kingdom galaxyv2
my bad some people actually believe they are cheating
2020-06-29 17:20
2020-06-29 08:38
Lol, gla1ve just watched at radar. Nothing wrong here.
2020-06-29 09:18
lmao looking at the radar is cheating now xD
2020-06-29 11:52
soon using crosshairs will be considered cheating
2020-06-29 15:01
2020-06-30 12:48
All the TOs should permit gaules from having the broadcasting rights, if he lets himself do such things and brainwashes his community.
2020-06-29 07:25
Give me the minute he said to hunt the kid. On the contrary, nobody had. He is a 16-year-old boy, seriously at 16 he already has a notion of wrong and right at least, but in his place to pronounce what he does? I will deprive and say that three retarded children are threatening And I don't need proof of anti-cheat because what else is cheat that goes through Faceit and Esea.
2020-06-29 07:44
where can i see current rmr points for teams. is there a page for that? :) ty in advance.
2020-06-29 07:47
Liquipedia CS page, there's RMR ranking there.
2020-06-29 09:15
16 yrs old is a baby now? the guy is suspecious to be using cheats. rofl you cheat, get fucked.
2020-06-29 08:15
If they cheated, it would be up to an admin to catch it. It's up to the admins, not the casters, teams, or players. Innocent until proven guilty dude
2020-06-29 09:12
2020-06-29 09:50
suspicious mean it can be cheat it can be legal right? then why everyone says that hes cheating? and the way they said that it's like they are 100% sure about that. everyone can be suspicious but calling someone cheating isn't good. just like Dan M.
2020-06-30 12:54
Guess being a 16year old saves you from everything nowadays.. daddy devve and some random virgins online who will never have kids are protecting leaf like their own child.
2020-06-29 08:24
no1 is protecting any1, it's about leaving the analysis to whom it may concern. if he has that much influence like the brazilians say he does, if he is - or was - that professional, he shouldn't be pleading like that.
2020-06-29 08:41
almost 1 week has passed and the entire cs scene remained quiet, if he don't step up this bs would pass like nothing happens
2020-06-29 08:56
step up to what bs, nothing's been proven yet and I haven't seen any of you fucks complain about subroza even though he was 100% cheating in the past and he beat your BR teams multiple times
2020-06-29 15:03
They don't gaf about leaf, they just don't like brazillians at all when they trashtalk about someone nothing happens when brazillians show their discontentment all hltv goes like "that's why we don't like us", waiting to a excuse for hate us. racists will say that im pullin the victim card
2020-06-29 08:45
fnx | 
Europe koml0w
It's pathetic that you think that Device is right, he does absolutely nothing about it and just gave a fucking hint, everyone seems to be pretending that everything was completely normal, THAT WASN'T NORMAL, I agree that threats against a 16 player years is absurd, and even if there were more, it would still be extremely wrong, but don't just point to that and say that Brazilians are the wrong ones, that Gaules posted some shit or something, it seems that people like you haven't seen the two sides of the coin, if they’re really pissing (which I don’t think is difficult, after seeing so many clips of leaf and xeppa, and it wasn’t just against the mibr) I highly doubt that he will be caught, because even to get the forsaken it was difficult, imagine online, it is sad to see how everyone defends just because of their flag, and not because you are sure that the person is not what everyone is accusing
2020-06-29 10:02
Brunei cyLoL
Won’t be caught cuz no cheat Gaules and fallen wrong for making accusation very not professional of them
2020-06-29 16:43
Brazilians using the race card like its no worry lmao. People calling you retarded on the leaf matter is not racism these are the facts
2020-06-29 10:02
Totally agreed(by an indian)
2020-06-29 11:26
its ironic they call everyone else racist while fer got fined and penalized for racists comments just a few weeks ago and no br fans seemed to care or bat an eye
2020-06-29 14:48
Gaules should be ashamed
2020-06-29 11:53
Portugal RKO23
Yeah dev1ce go for politician please. we all know he's cheating or was cheating, whatever. from my understanding he's saying that he's not cheating and he's giving more power for people to cheat. if this was overwatch. wait... we can do overwatch and ban him guys. but whatever, you guys look for an update news of it, i know there is.
2020-06-29 11:57
"We" all know... lol
2020-07-01 15:35
so if u have alot of fans u cant give your opinion on something nowadays? that match vs chaos had some strange clips indeed, fallen saw something strange in that game and he gave his opinion just like gaules, and both said to not bother the guys with messages etc but the fanbase is very huge with all kinds of people and they couldn't control it, but some of u guys just go assuming things because u dont know portuguese, thanks god mibr, furia or gaules dont need support or approval of any snowflake from europe to be themselves and tell what they think
2020-06-29 14:54
"and they couldn't control it" yea thats the whole point... if you can't control the fact that your statement will inevitably create a witch hunt than don't make it public, they could've just done it privately with admins or valve.
2020-06-29 15:18
People were already going after leaf's account even before gaules and fallen's tweets.
2020-06-29 15:39
And it become worse after their tweets.
2020-06-30 16:09
Brazil Tamer1328
yes yes a gigantic guy who has followers and posts what he wants holds over 500 thousand people, congratulations what is your problem? The fact that he used a hack is not annulled by the fact that HE IS 16 YEARS OLD Gauls cannot hold everyone back
2020-06-29 14:59
source 2 pls
2020-06-29 15:01
2020-06-29 15:01
This is funny, Fallen was shady AF for a full year when Lumo was #1 - and I can easily make a clip with more shade from 1 match in a bo3 than I've seen from the leaf kid. Im old, and bad, but when I played seriously, you know those days when you're unstoppable and just seems like you predict enemy perfect every round? Are brazilians trying to say that can't happen? Do they really think someone who's dedicating their life to this game can't have one of those days in a match vs their fav team? CMON. If leaf is cheating, Fallen was cheating. GET REAL. YOU GUYS. GROW UP. TLDR: CRY IS FREE
2020-06-29 15:11
cheater saying its a ***** move to call out cheats against cheaters, expected
2020-06-29 15:14
Brazil wololo10
2020-06-29 15:41
JW | 
Norway jatakk
alpha move by device, most players in the scene would never have spoken out like that
2020-06-29 15:43
Dev1ce you need help wiping your tears? All you do is cry but don’t stop bitching on twitter, I love seeing your danglish statements, absolute melt
2020-06-29 15:52
Why do think he is crying?
2020-07-01 15:37
br community cant take that loss
2020-06-29 15:54
Leaf is a professional player. Just because he's 16 doesn't mean he's free of criticism. He may already be responsible for your attitudes. Dev1ce would have another answer if it went against him.
2020-06-29 15:58
no he wouldnt. and criticism is a bit different than writing about him everyday or sending him thousands of death threats.
2020-07-02 00:44
2020-06-29 16:00
Yup, he's right. If the kid gets banned or something, we can talk. Until then, leave him alone.
2020-06-29 16:12
+999 /close
2020-06-30 08:42
so thats the world right now, the guy that cheat is right and the guy that accuses him is wrong.
2020-06-29 16:18
2020-06-29 16:44
Do you have any evidence to prove that he is cheating?
2020-06-30 16:07
leaf is like the tv series villan that everyone knows what he did but nobody has prove and he brags about it in front of the police
2020-07-01 18:10
Or maybe people that are heavily biased shouldn't be the judges of that.
2020-07-01 15:38
ecovice is like the most boring cs pro of all time. this dude has 0 personality. he only says what is "ethically correct". he must have a micropenis.
2020-06-29 17:22
very interesting personalities
2020-06-30 00:42
+1 borger brain, reading that was so cringe, the whole drama is pointless and brazilians need to realise americans are hated more and for accusing leaf for hacking, it really doesn't matter... there is a precident for quote unquote cheaters just being good players so I don't really see the issue for example ropz... If there wasn't a precident sure... however there isn't...
2020-06-30 05:23
If he is referring to Gaules, this argument presented by Dev1ce is invalid, given that Gaules was already present in the competitive scenario of CS 1.6, and with that he obviously acquired experience where he can conceive comments about those plays that are really considered (in some specific moves) suspicious. Device is a mere beginner player for Gaules, in relation to professional activity in this area.
2020-06-30 05:16
Yes, Gaules the "huge" star from 1.6 that almost nobody rememebers. Way to spin that CS history.
2020-07-01 15:39
id love to see everyones reaction if leaf had cheated against a top NA/EU team, and it was thorin or another EU/NA influencer posting something like that xenophobia at its finest
2020-06-30 05:21
nt fake flagger
2020-06-30 05:54
Brazil kaduramos
Im wondering where was Mr right device when people call us brazilians monkeys and stuff , never hear nothing from him or frod or anyone on pro scene , now that we are talking bulsshit for a cheater they are pissed oh men get out
2020-06-30 05:56
what people call you that show some proof
2020-06-30 12:03
Brazil kaduramos
just open a twitch stream with a brazilian team on it and youll see
2020-07-01 03:36
I watched the liquid furia match the other day and saw repeated spam "Brazil 2 majors LUL NA 2 towers LUL" wow how respectful and well meaning the Brazilians are am I right? so funny right haHAA people die in terrorist attack haHAA am I right?
2020-07-01 03:45
Any pro/streamer called you guys monkey in public/on twitter?
2020-06-30 16:10
Gaules gave hes opinion: "Leaf os cheating" And the whole world cry? Well well, you Said gaules is not relevant tô CS scene so what are you complaining about? Device is a pain in the ass thats fore sure.
2020-06-30 06:11
Gaules is right.. how come all these csgo pros are crying all d time when there is a witchunt vs. cheaters, yet none of them has called out valve for rampant cheating in CSGO in general. Maybe they are complicit to it or they just dont give a fuck as long as they earn their $$$$..
2020-06-30 06:18
If pro player accused other pro player of cheating its not good pr for your team. Back in the days pro players accused flusha/fnatic was cheating and nothing happened. So players see that valve doesnt really care about this topic. Valve/vac is even bigger joke than wada in real sports and that is a huge problem. If valve actually banned flusha this scene would be much better.
2020-07-01 03:51
Or maybe the rapant cheating in CSGO is not that rampant but more a result of low tier players thinking everyone better than them must be cheating. But its better to have a conspiracy theory ofc.
2020-07-01 15:41
conspiracy theory???? forsaken, kqly, vsm, sf, emilio, b0bzki, jamppi's old account and many others.... ever heard of these cheaters who got banned?? or maybe u just started following the CSGO scene during the Corona Quarantine period?
2020-07-02 03:36
Rampant cheating is not equal to 7 names, is it? I've followed to pro scene on and off since 1.6, never has there been rampant cheating in the pro scene.
2020-07-02 14:12
u forgot to read "and many others", u should read the whole sentence. u can also add those who hasn't been caught...
2020-07-03 00:18
So you seriously think theres a lot of cheaters in the pro scene?
2020-07-03 11:37
BRA71L you have all that coffee there and still can't think clearly PepeHands
2020-06-30 08:39
Brazil thn_99
Weird, I didn't hear you complaining when ESL mocked at meyern in a live match, saying that "meyern" meant "we miss coldzera" in Argentinian. Was it "pathetic and disgusting" in that occasion? Or is it fine to mock at a 17yo South American player?
2020-06-30 09:15
did ESL send him death threats?
2020-06-30 12:04
did Guales send him death threats?
2020-07-01 15:00
gaules fans did... I didn't see any ESL fans do that
2020-07-02 00:13
Ukraine volod1m1r
gained respect for gaywise
2020-06-30 12:06
tom cruise
2020-07-01 03:01
mibr r so bad. They can't move on from their era with Cold. that's why they r retar. They needs more banana just like gaules.
2020-06-30 12:11
2020-06-30 15:39
Of course he is
2020-06-30 12:18
Brunei cyLoL
Yes men gaules is a bad men he think he smart but really dumb and accuse leaf of cheat when he not. Then play victim when he get call out. Gaules should grow up admit he wrong and move on, he act younger than 9yearold.
2020-06-30 12:34
dude do you know the gaules? you probably didn’t see his transmission, because all the time he said it wasn’t to threaten boy, now or gauls you say you don’t know, every day when he lives live he always helps someone donating 5 thousand, 3 thousand, 2 thousand even 180 thousand to fight covid 19 so before judging him, research before him that he would never tell people to threaten this poor fellow.
2020-06-30 16:00
Estonia Adamo_
2020-06-30 14:42
the people are so ignorant is that whoever was in the transmission of the gauls saw that he was talking all the time so that people would not threaten the boy. but the same guy can take the dream of 5 people
2020-06-30 15:53 Obviously he didnt do more than device, but he is no nonamer and his opinion is valid specially because he didnt just look at the clips and decided if he was cheating or not, he called a cheater speacialist, the "owner" of gamersclub (brasilian faceit), a lot of former players and coaches and they all discussed for like 5 or 6 hours not only if he was cheating but the real problem wich is that anyone is free to cheat as long as you dont get caught by those shitty acs that are the same ones we use and we caught cheaters on 1/3 of our games. After that discussion and after this problem was shown, bts have not pronounced about the situation, that's why he is mad
2020-06-30 16:05
but clearly he’s using cheating, you don’t doubt that, right?
2020-06-30 16:10
cheaters are everywhere in mm and in the pro scene as well. Regardless that is still no way to behave especially when you know you have a charged fanbase.
2020-07-01 00:16
I agree but when I whatch his streams he always says that the problem is not the individual but the problem himself. I agree with you that he should have done the same on twitter wich is the only thing the international scene cares about, but there is a lot of misinformation, gaules never said device's tweet was xenophobic, he was talking about others like richard lewis that never defended the brasilians when they suffered xenophobia and now says he is waiting for gaules to comment on fer's racist charge from mibr, when gaules has done it like 2 weeks ago and when you confront him with that you get blocked but he doesnt block those guys who are saying "brasilians are retards dont listen to them", people like him are spreading these and their intentions are clear when they know they are wrong but still act like they are right and leave the false information ther to everyone who doesnt speak portuguese. Most people that are criticizing gaules now didnt criticize fns whe he said he was sure immortals players were partying and hangover and it turned out to be fake wich gaules never did, he never said he was on leafs pc and that he knows for sure that he is cheating
2020-07-01 00:55
Brazil PKayano
Where were they to defend Brazilians when an American influencer (Thorin) encouraged racism by calling LG players apes? Incredible how they defend only what suits them
2020-06-30 16:14
Thorin is not American
2020-07-01 00:16
valde | 
United States jax9
Thorin is not American. He's from Churchill's nest
2020-07-01 03:48
Brazil fazecrack
What do you expect from burguers? They are an inherently evil people
2020-06-30 17:42
cheater defending a cheater its a normal behaviour from botvice
2020-07-01 03:52
United States ScanDull
I'm no fan of Astralis, I'll be honest, but outside of the game they're all pretty chill guys, and dev1ce is just showing that right here. I don't know if leaf is cheating, though honestly a lot of the evidence seems circumstantial at best. But there is simply no excuse for gaules' behavior and what's going on here with his fans trying to witch hunt the guy and hurling death threats. Even if he is cheating, this is wrong. I've seen the CS community get worked up and agitated over a lot of things but this is something new and seriously too far.
2020-07-01 03:54
Brazilians really love playing victim huh? Claiming people always racist on twitch chat against them. Did gaules ever watch on other stream? How Brazilian's chat on other stream? Do you guys remember how this site become toxic and full of Brazilian toxic after they won against EG? And claiming gaules is more known on csgo scene than device is a total dumbass. If u think gaules is more known on this scene, he should know better about cheating and just shut up about it. Fucking old man act like a kid.
2020-07-01 04:04
just noticed your flag is poland but upside down that's a nice easter egg
2020-07-02 00:30
just noticed your flag is portugal but poor and low average iq.
2020-07-02 00:48
nah brazil and portugal flag are very different
2020-07-02 00:48
i meant the country itself.
2020-07-02 00:48
i thought you said flag not country heyy could you explain it with more details? i have low iq and my pc is running out of firewood if you could draw it for me then it would be better
2020-07-02 00:51
one of the stupid tweet by dev1ce...
2020-07-02 00:19
nt fake flagger
2020-07-02 11:41
I totally agree that naming someone cheater when you don't have 100% proof is a pussy move. I hate ppl that have no idea about what they talk but they keep talking and acting like they would be smarter than the others.
2020-07-02 00:21
just noticed your flag is indonesia but upside down that's a nice easter egg
2020-07-02 00:31
Great easter egg. Noone ever realised that before XD.
2020-07-02 00:33
i'm glad i discovered this easter egg
2020-07-02 00:35
I'm really proud of you noticing that.
2020-07-02 00:35
thank you my friend that's really nice of you
2020-07-02 00:36
I know I'm a really nice guy.
2020-07-02 00:38
of course you are
2020-07-02 00:39
You are nice to. Not as nice as me but still nice.
2020-07-02 00:40
yea i have tried to be just as nice as you but i should have an upside down flag first
2020-07-02 00:41
I think you need to change your falg because I just noticed that you flag upside down is nothing special.
2020-07-02 00:42
it is special... it means a lot... don't pretend you don't know.... i'll accept my ruined fate as a not upside down flagger
2020-07-02 00:43
Unfortunately I don't know. But you can tell me. And good luck accepting it, it won't be easy.
2020-07-02 00:45
hey look at me i can feel the power now
2020-07-02 00:46
Good change. You are much more powerful now.
2020-07-02 00:47
it is not a witch hunt. a witch hunt would indicate that there is nothing to find. yet there are at least some very suspicious scenes, which should be discussed. however it is not a witch hunt
2020-07-02 00:43
He's dumb just like 90% of his nation, it's not his fault that he was born in denmark
2020-07-02 00:50
nt fakeflagger
2020-07-02 00:52
cry is free no scener
2020-07-02 02:29
Np. I truly love Finns from MM, you are kind guys are you have very funny (but clear) english accent :)
2020-07-02 02:40
didnt ask
2020-07-02 02:43
It's ok, have a wonderful night my friend
2020-07-02 02:44
OMG that was epic. but forget i said that. i dont want repercution
2020-07-03 00:25
You talk about it a lot, right, but when a GIANT company like ESL makes a bad joke with the mayern when he was at MIBR saying: "meyern is an argentinian word and reads in English:" we miss coldzera "" nobody speak right? everything is in the ass ... hopefully the CHEATER will play against your team and destroy it ... and that there will be evidence, but that the same thing happened to us ... without justice
2020-07-02 01:00
Thats because ESL or any fanbase did not send death threats to meyern so there was no ill intention behind it thats the difference.
2020-07-02 03:27
North America joeS
If you think for 1 moment that Gaules is as important as Device to this scene, you are just as braindead as the claims that xeppa and leaf are cheating.
2020-07-02 03:34
What if they are actually cheating though.
2020-07-03 00:19
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